

THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
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More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
Whether you're chasing a personal best or dreaming bigger about what running can mean in your life, The Running Effect is your home for passion, performance, and possibility.
🚀 Join the movement that's reshaping running media.
More than a podcast — a revolution in how running is told, lived, and loved.
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Nov 8, 2024 • 43min
2xNCAA Champion, 4xStanford School Record Holder Ky Robinson Shares Reflections On His Legacy In The NCAA + Thoughts Going Into His Rookie Year With The OAC
Back on the podcast today is Ky Robinson!
Ky was undoubtedly one of the greatest NCAA runners of our generation. Competeing for the storied Stanford University, Ky was a 2xNCAA Champion (5k/10k), leading to him being named the Men's Outdoor Track National Athlete of the Year in 2023
Ky is Stanford school-record holder in the mile, steeplechase, 5,000, and indoor 3,000.
Ky was also a 13-time All-American, an accomplishment that I have only seen once or twice in the 450 episodes of this podcast.
Ky has run 3:52 (Mile), 7:36 (3k), 13:06 (5k), and 27:44 (10k).
Ky signed with On and the OAC out of college and will be going into his first full rookie year with them in 2025.
In today's conversation, Ky takes me through his final year at Stanford, his reflections on the legacy he left there, his decision to turn pro with On, his ambitions for the future, and much more!
I always thoroughly enjoy my conversations with Ky and this one is packed full of stories, wisdom, and actionable takeaways. Don't miss it!
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Nov 6, 2024 • 1h 6min
Coach Chris Miltenberg Shares Lessons & Stories From 21 Years Of Successful Coaching + Insights On Championship Racing, Recruiting, & Attributes Of His Most Successful Athletes
Back on the podcast is one of the greatest coaches in NCAA history, Coach Chris Miltenberg.
Following seven years at Stanford University, Coach Milt was named Director of Track & Field and Cross Country at the University of North Carolina on June 27, 2019. The 2024-25 school year is his sixth at the Tar Heel helm.
The 2023-24 cross country and track and field seasons will go down as one of the best in program history for the men's teams. They finished in the Top 10 at the NCAA Championships, claiming 6th place in cross country and 5th place in outdoor track and field. The Tar Heels also won their first ACC Cross Country Championship since 1985 and their first ACC Indoor Championship since 1996.
Coach Milt also led Parker Wolfe to winning North Carolina's first-ever 5,000m National Championship at the 2024 NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships. Wolfe was named the USTFCCCA Men's Southeast Regional Athlete of the Year and ACC Runner of the Year in cross country, indoor track, and outdoor track. He is the first ACC athlete (male or female) to sweep those honors in a year. Wolfe won five ACC championships under Coach Miltenberg and set five school records. Wolfe became the Tar Heel's first runner in history to be named to The Bowerman Award Watchlist and later became a Bowerman Award Semifinalist.
The UNC men's cross country and track and field programs combined to finish 5th nationally in the 2023-24 USTFCCCA Men's Program of the Year Standings.
In summary, Coach Milt is not only a transformative force in the world of track and field coaching, but also a mentor and leader who instills a deep sense of dedication and excellence in his athletes. His impressive array of accomplishments, both on and off the field, stands as a testament to his enduring legacy as one of the sport's most exceptional and influential coaches.
In today's conversation, Coach Milt takes me through the ups and downs of the 2024 XC season thus far, his view on championship races, what makes a great speech, insights on recruiting, his 20yr vision for UNC, and so much more.
This one is an all-timer. Don't miss it.
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Nov 4, 2024 • 44min
Manny Putz Shares Insights From His Ascent In The Sport, How To Be National Class As A High Schooler, Setting A National Record at 12 Years Old + Running Foot Locker For The First Time
Today on the Call Room Road To Balboa, I'm joined by the one and only Manny Putz!
Manny placed 5th last year at NXN as a junior and is a 3xWisconsin State Champion in XC as well as a pair of titles on the track. He was the Wisconsin Gatorade Player of the Year in both his Sophmore and Junior years in XC.
Manny holds PRs of 2:00 (800m), 4:12 (1,600m), 8:56 (2-Mile), and 14:32 (5k XC).
But back in the day, Manny was a stud, too, setting a national record in the 1500m for 12-year-olds running 4:18.10.
Manny is committed to running for Wisconsin next year.
In today's conversation, Manny takes me through his successful high school career thus far, his upbringing in sport, his training and why low milage works for him, how he handles comparison, his recuriting process, his mindset going into Foot Locker, and much more!
Manny brought the energy, and I thoroughly enjoyed this one!
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Nov 2, 2024 • 48min
From A Nearly Fatal Car Crash To The Top Of The ACC: The Remarkable Story Of How Patrick Anderson & Will Coogan Overcame A Life-Changing Experience & Bounced Back Even Better
Today, sharing one of the best stories in the sport are Patrick Anderson and Will Coogan.
Last spring, five North Carolina men's track and field athletes were traveling to practice in a car after the Raleigh Relays. It crashed, flipped, and then landed in a ditch. Two of those athletes, Patrick Anderson and Will Coogan were in the car and both were seriously hurt, Patrick nearly dying from his injuries.
Their story of getting back to running and excel at the sport once again after a nearly fatal event is one of the most inspiring stories the sport has ever seen.
Patrick and Will are both highly accomplished runners.
Patrick has run 3:40.09 (1500m), 7:54.64 (3k), 13:37.79 (5k), and 23:04.4 (8k XC).
Will has run 3:44.13 (1500m), 7:54.66 (3k), 13:44.64 (5k), and 23:41.2 (8k XC).
In today's conversation, Patrick and Will recap this story in gripping detail and share the ins and outs on how this life event shaped their lives, their return to the sport, the obstacles they've faced in that pursuit, their ambitions for the future, and so much more!
This conversation is truly impactful and will reshape your perspective on how you view your running, and potentially even life.
Do not miss this conversation, and please share it with a friend!
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Oct 31, 2024 • 41min
"Runners Won't Have An Opportunity To Run If This Goes Through!" Ole Miss Stone Smith On The Implications Of The New SEC Roster Limits & How They Could Kill Our Sport
Last week, the SEC announced that they plan to set men’s roster limits to 10/35 for XC/TF.
Earlier last week, coaches and administration from the Southeastern Conference were informed of the proposed conference roster limits for cross country and track & field.
Currently, the average SEC men’s XC roster is ~17.
One of the athletes who came out against this news is Ole Miss athlete, Stone Smith.
Stone is an accomplished runner who was a 5xAlabama 6A State Champion in high school and ran 1:55 (800m), 4:12 (Mile), and 9:08 (2-Mile), and 15:21 in the 5k.
Stone won the Mobile Meet of Champions Mile in 2023, where he set the meet record. He redshirted the bulk of last year but ran 3:52 in the 1500m, which converts to a 4:08 (1600m).
As Stone discusses in this conversation, he would most likely be on the chopping block if this goes through.
Stone walks me through the implications of this news if it goes through, what it would do for the programs within the SEC, how it could set a precedent in other programs around the NCAA, how this will destroy walk-ons, ways to fix the issue, and much more!
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Oct 30, 2024 • 40min
North Carolina's Ethan Strand Speaks On His NIL With NIKE + Exclusive Insights From His Breakthrough Track Season & How He Took His Racing To The Next Level
Ethan Strand shares insights on becoming the newest NIL athlete for NIKE!
Ethan went on an absolute tear in 2024. He competed at four meets during the indoor season, where he ran the Mile, 3k, and DMR. Ethan broke Tony Waldrop mile school record of 3:55 from 1974 in a 3:54.62 effort that won the mile event at the Eagle Elite. He was also part of a DMR group that set an ACC indoor record in the DMR. He earned First Team All-America status after finishing fourth in the Mile at the NCAA Indoor Championships. Ethan moved into the No. 2 spot on the UNC all-time performers list for the 1,500m. He also moved into the No. 6 slot on UNC's all-time performers in the 5000m, running 13:36.57. He repeated as ACC champion and first-team All-ACC in the 1500m at the ACC Outdoor Championships in Atlanta, Georgia. He was named Second Team All-America in the 1500m, finishing 9th at the NCAA Outdoor Championships in 3:40.90.
In today's conversation, Ethan takes me through his brand new NIKE NIL Deal, his 2024 season, and the ups and downs that came with it, his ambitions for this upcoming cross season, and so much more! It's always a fun time chopping it up with Ethan, don't miss this one.
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Oct 29, 2024 • 51min
The American Record Holder In The Marathon & Olympian Emily Sisson On The Keys To Becoming Successful At Running, Stories From Her Successful Career, & Insights On Her Future
THE EMILY SISSON SPECIAL
Emily Sisson is one of the greatest US Distance Runners of all-time, and she still has her best running ahead of her. At every level, Emily has been ABSOLUTELY dominant.
In high school, Emily qualified for the prestigious Foot Locker National Cross Country Championships all four years, a feat that has barely been replicated throughout history.
In college, at Providence College, Emily was a two-time NCAA champion, winning titles in the 5000m at both the indoor and outdoor NCAA Championships in 2015. She also set a collegiate indoor record for the women's 5000m with a time of15:12.22 at the Big East Indoor Track & Field Championships.
Emily turned pro in 2015 with New Balance and continued to train under her college coach, Ray Tracey, and has all the way up to the present day.
As a pro, Emily has set multiple American Records, including the American Record in the Marathon, which stands to this day. It was set at the 2022 Chicago Marathon, where she ran 2:18:29. Emily made the US Olympic team this past summer in the Marathon after placing 2nd at the US Olympic Trials in Orlando in February.
In today's conversation, Emily takes me through the biggest lessons and learnings from her successful career, her years in high school and how she's always fallen back on her love for the sport, her ambitions for the future, and so much more.
I absolutely loved this conversation and the opportunity to pick Emily's brain on so many topics. This one is packed with wisdom! Take the time to listen to it.
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Oct 27, 2024 • 1h 14min
The Last Dance: Moving To A New Country, New Perspectives On The Sport, & Lessons From A Long, Successful Career With Olympian & American Record Holder Evan Jager
THE EVAN JAGER SPECIAL
Evan Jager is one of the most decorated and accomplished runners in US Distance history.
Evan is the American Record Holder in the Steeplechase, along with the Rio Olympic Silver Medalist in the Steeple and London World Championships Silver Medalist in the Steeple. On top of these feats, Evan has won a US title at the Steeplechase SEVEN times.
He is one of the original members of Nike's Bowerman Track Club having dropped out of college (not to sound dramatic, he was just really fast and went pro) to follow Coach Jerry Schumacher.
Evan holds PRs of 3:32 (1500m), 8:00.45 (Steeplechase), 7:35 (3000m), and 13:02 (5000m).
Evan is a 2xUS Olympian.
In today's conversation, Evan takes me through his life updates which includes moving to a new country, his reflections on his 2024 season, how to deal with disappointment, how much longer he plans to run for, lessons on how to become great at the sport of running, and so much more.
This episode is a true treat. A lot of Evan Jager updates mixed with unparalleled wisdom from the legend himself.
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Oct 25, 2024 • 57min
Drew Hunter On His Next Chapter In Running, Lessons From Fatherhood, Learning To Love Running Again, & Reflections From The Best Season Of His Career
Back on the podcast, full of wisdom and insights is Drew Hunter!
Drew had a remarkably successful season where he PRd at every distance. He ran 3:33 in the 1500m, 13:08 in the 5k, and 27:38 in the 10k. Drew placed 4th at the US Olympic Trials in the 10k, his highest-ever finish at a US Olympic Trials.
Before his professional career, he set the national indoor mile record for high school boys in 2016. He was also named the Gatorade National Cross-Country Runner of the Year in 2016. He committed to the University of Oregon on November 12, 2015, but instead decided to pursue a professional career by signing with Adidas. He then went on to co-found professional running team / brand Tinman Elite.
In today's conversation, Drew takes me through his current outlook on the sport, the power of becoming a dad and how that's affected his mindset on the sport, what his next steps in sport / life are, his 2024 season, the best books he's read, what he wants to do when he's hung up the spikes, and much more!
I always love my conversations with Drew as they are always thoughtful and packed to the brim with insights. Don't miss this one!
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Oct 24, 2024 • 35min
North Carolina Commit Jack Bowen Shares Insights From His Senior Campaign Including Running 14:41, His Training, & Hopes Of A National Title
The kid the nation is sleeping on arrives on the podcast today.
His name is Jack Bowen.
And this guy just ran 14:41 to beat a STAR-STUDDED field at the Nike Twilight XC Meet.
Jack holds PRs of 1:55 (800m), 4:09 (1600m), 4:10 (Mile), 8:56 (3200m), and 14:40 (5k XC).
He was a part of the Nike Indoor Nationals championship-winning team in the 4x800m, was 5th in the Mile at the same meet, and is a 2x Runner-Up Tennessee D2-AA State Championship.
In today's conversation, Jack takes me through his recent remarkable results, his recent progression, what his training looks like, his win at the Nike Twighlight XC Festival, his ambitions for Foot Locker, his committing to UNC, and so much more.
You can catch Jack race the FL South Regional on November 30 for a chance at qualifying for glory at Balboa Park two weeks later.
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