

Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina
Vanessa Spina
Vanessa Spina is a Sports Nutrition Specialist, Best Selling author, creator of the innovative TONE device, as well as a sought after international speaker. On the Optimal Protein podcast, Vanessa shares how to get effortlessly lean and improve metabolic health and fitness with an optimal protein intake!
Featuring interviews with world renowned and leading edge protein scientists & experts, authors, and people with inspiring transformational stories discussing the best tools for becoming optimizing your metabolic health with whole foods, nutrition, exercise and more!
Featuring interviews with world renowned and leading edge protein scientists & experts, authors, and people with inspiring transformational stories discussing the best tools for becoming optimizing your metabolic health with whole foods, nutrition, exercise and more!
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Sep 5, 2025 • 56min
The Real Science of Fat Loss: Carbons, Metabolism & Protein Timing - Dr. Andy Galpin Recap
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this solo recap episode, Vanessa breaks down her in-depth interview with Dr. Andy Galpin, one of the world’s leading muscle scientists and performance physiologists. This 60-minute masterclass distills the most important takeaways from their conversation into clear, actionable steps for fat loss, body recomposition, and metabolic health. 👉 Unlock better protein absorption and digestion with MassZymes by BiOptimizers. Get 10% off your order with the code VANESSA at bioptimizers.com/vanessa What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The real science of fat loss — why stored fat leaves your body as exhaled carbon, not sweat. Carbon in vs. carbon out — how to think about energy balance more clearly. Why nutrition drives fat loss — the 90/10 rule of diet vs. exercise. The two macros most women misjudge — why we consistently overestimate protein and underestimate fat. What to do if you’re stuck at 1,200 calories — Andy’s three-step framework: reevaluate, build muscle, or take a structured diet break. Protein timing truths — total daily protein matters more than timing, plus the role of pre-sleep protein. Metabolic flexibility demystified — why it’s about switching fuels efficiently, not always “burning fat.” The sleep–fat loss connection — how poor sleep alters hormones, cravings, and body composition. Anabolic resistance and menopause — why blood flow and activity may matter more than hormones alone. A one-week action blueprint — practical steps you can apply right away for better results. This episode is packed with clarity and practical insights to help you optimize protein, training, and recovery so you can burn fat, preserve lean mass, and unlock your healthiest, strongest self. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook https://ketogenicgirl.com/pages/new-free-ebook Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.

Sep 1, 2025 • 1h 24min
Stuck at 1200 Calories? Why Muscle Is Key to Fat Loss – Dr. Andy Galpin’s Fix for Metabolic Resistance
In a fascinating discussion, Dr. Andy Galpin, a world-renowned muscle physiologist and strength coach, shares insights on muscle and fat loss. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining fast-twitch muscle for longevity and dispels myths around protein intake, especially among women. Dr. Galpin outlines practical strategies to overcome dieting plateaus and improve metabolic flexibility. Learn why fat leaves the body when you exhale and discover the hidden powers of creatine and pre-sleep protein for optimizing fat loss and muscle retention.

Aug 29, 2025 • 60min
Fuel Your Brain & Burn Fat: Inside IQBAR’s High-Protein Formulation
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this Friday episode, I’m diving into my fascinating conversation with Will Nitze, the founder and CEO of IQBAR—a bar formulated to fuel both the brain and the body. This solocast-style recap explores the unique backstory of how Will built IQBAR from the ground up and how the brand became a leader in the functional protein space. We break down: How Will developed the idea and scaled IQBAR from concept to nationwide success The exact macronutrient profile behind IQBAR and why it’s ideal for fat loss The powerful synergy between high protein and high fiber for satiety, stable blood sugar, and body recomposition Why ingredients like MCT oil, lion’s mane, magnesium, and omega-3s were included for cognitive support How smart snacking can support fat loss goals—especially when macros are optimized If you’re someone who struggles with hitting protein targets on the go, curbing cravings, or simply wants a science-backed, low-carb snack that supports your fat loss journey—this is the episode for you. Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.

Aug 25, 2025 • 1h 22min
BREAKING: Landmark New Study on Weight Loss and Ultra-Processed Foods with Dr. Samuel Dicken
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In today’s episode, Vanessa sits down with Dr. Samuel Dicken, Research Fellow at University College London’s Centre for Obesity Research and lead author of the UPDATE Trial — the longest and most rigorous clinical study to date comparing ultra-processed (UPF) vs. minimally processed (MPF) diets. This landmark trial revealed a game-changing finding: 👉 Even when calories, protein, and nutrients were matched to healthy eating guidelines, participants eating minimally processed foods lost twice as much weight, significantly more body fat, and experienced fewer cravings than those on ultra-processed foods. We dive deep into: Why food processing level impacts fat loss and body recomposition beyond calories How minimally processed diets preserve muscle while reducing fat mass The role of appetite hormones (ghrelin, GLP-1, PYY) and the thermic effect of food in regulating intake Dr. Dicken’s Lancet cohort study linking ultra-processed foods to a 17% higher risk of diabetes per 10% increase in diet share Practical food swaps to maximize satiety per calorie and overcome cravings Where “better” processed foods (like whole-grain breads and fermented dairy) fit into the picture How minimally processed diets compare with — and complement — GLP-1 weight-loss medications If you’ve ever felt like you eat “healthy” but still struggle with fat loss, this episode uncovers why the quality and processing level of your food may matter as much as the nutrients themselves. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at https://ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017506024952802/ The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.

Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 2min
I Tried PSMF Days for 3 Weeks — My Results + The Surprising Science of Intermittent High-Protein Fasting
Discover how Protein-Sparing Modified Fasting PSMF) Days can unlock rapid fat loss without sacrificing muscle. Vanessa shares her own recent results alongside the latest studies on intermittent high-protein fasting in women. Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and décolleté and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA Have you ever wondered if you could accelerate fat loss with just a few high-protein, very low-calorie days each week? In this episode, Vanessa dives deep into the modern science of Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF) and how intermittent high-protein fasting can help women lose fat, preserve lean muscle, and improve metabolic health. Vanessa reviews the latest studies on: 1–3 PSMF days per week compared to daily dieting Alternate-day and 5:2 style intermittent fasting approaches with high protein How PSMF days stack up against water fasting and generic low-calorie diets Fat loss, lean mass retention, and insulin sensitivity outcomes in women She also shares her personal PSMF experiment — one month of cycling three PSMF days per week — and reveals her results: fat loss, waist measurement changes, muscle preservation, and how it felt in real life. If you’ve been curious about modern approaches to PSMF, how to implement them safely, and whether they truly outperform traditional dieting, this episode brings you the evidence and the personal perspective. IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.

Aug 18, 2025 • 47min
Rapid Fat Loss Without Muscle Loss? The Science on Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts (PSMF)
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. This episode of the Optimal Protein Podcast takes a deep dive into the Protein-Sparing Modified Fast (PSMF) — a scientifically designed approach for rapid fat loss that prioritizes lean muscle preservation. Listeners will learn: What defines a PSMF and how it works in practice The latest research on fat loss outcomes and muscle retention How PSMF compares with ketogenic diets, VLCDs, and intermittent fasting Differences in results between men and women Short-term benefits and potential challenges with long-term use How to implement cycling strategies, refeed phases, and sustainable maintenance plans Evidence-based guidelines for safe and effective use Packed with research findings and practical insights, this episode provides a clear, evidence-based look at how PSMF can be used as a tool for body recomposition, fat loss, and long-term health. Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.

Aug 15, 2025 • 41min
Fat Loss First: How VO₂ Max, Ketones & Diet Unlock Lifelong Metabolic Fitness — Dr. Paul Laursen Recap
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Today’s episode is a deep-dive recap of my mind-blowing conversation with Dr. Paul Laursen — one of the world’s top experts in exercise physiology, high-intensity interval training (HIIT), and fat-adapted performance. If you’ve ever wondered: Why you feel better fat-fueled than carb-loaded How diet actually drives fat loss more than training Why ketones might be more than a fuel — and actually a proxy for VO₂ max How to optimize your metabolic flexibility using HIIT and protein-forward nutrition …this episode will change how you see your body composition journey — especially if you’ve been trying to out-exercise a poor diet. 🔗 Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and decollete and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA We break down: Why diet beats exercise for fat loss — results from Dr. Laursen’s VLCHF vs. HIIT study Fat-adaptation as a proxy for VO₂ max and why that matters for metabolic fitness & longevity How metabolic flexibility fuels both performance and brain health Why animal protein quality is a game-changer for recovery, energy, and lean mass The neuroprotective power of ketones for focus, resilience, and endurance How to train the brain first, body second for performance Why your body rebuilds itself every 6 months — and how to upgrade the raw materials 💡 Dr. Laursen’s 6 Step Body Recomposition Blueprint: Start with a high-protein, low-carb diet built on quality animal protein Use HIIT strategically — not excessively Track your own responses with CGMs and breath ketones Get fat-adapted for longevity, mental clarity, and metabolic resilience Support your brain — the true driver of performance Whether you’re an athlete or simply chasing better metabolic health, this episode delivers the science and strategy to help you get leaner, stronger, and more metabolically fit. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl • 🔗 Learn more about the TONE Breath Ketone Analyzer — 20% OFF with code VANESSA • Tone Collagen 📱 Follow @ketogenicgirl for the latest studies and strategies on fat loss and protein optimization 📸 Follow @optimalproteinpodcast for episode visuals and updates 💬 Join the Facebook group: Optimal Protein Podcast Community 🎙 The content in this podcast is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. Always consult your healthcare provider before making major dietary or lifestyle changes.

Aug 11, 2025 • 1h 15min
Fat Loss & the Fat-Burning Advantage: Boost VO₂ Max, Build Metabolic Fitness & Stay Lean for Life: Dr. Paul Laursen
Dr. Paul Laursen, an accomplished exercise physiologist and endurance coach, discusses the critical role of diet over exercise in fat loss. He shares insights on how being fat-fueled can enhance VO₂ max, a marker of cardiovascular health. The conversation covers the advantages of HIIT for body recomposition and insulin sensitivity, and the metabolic benefits of low-carb diets. Laursen also highlights the importance of personalized nutrition and the impact of ketones on appetite control and cognitive performance, offering actionable tips for optimizing training and recovery.

Aug 8, 2025 • 54min
Protein, Policy & Fat Loss: Dr. Don Layman’s Breaking Insights (Part 2)
IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% OFF all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. To get your 20% off, text VANESSA to 64000. That’s VANESSA to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. In this Part 2 solo recap episode, Vanessa Spina continues breaking down her powerful conversation with protein pioneer Dr. Donald Layman—covering the second half of their in-depth interview on metabolism, insulin resistance, muscle maintenance during menopause, and the launch of a groundbreaking new Protein Quality Hub. If you’ve ever wondered how to structure your meals to maximize fat loss, support lean mass, and protect your metabolic health as you age—this is the episode you’ve been waiting for. 🔬 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why fasted workouts and AMPK activation can block muscle growth • How protein distribution and meal spacing impact fat loss • The link between muscle capacity and blood sugar regulation • Why most women need at least 100g of protein per day • How to pair carbs and protein in a 1:1 ratio to support metabolism • Stretch-based movement vs. heavy lifting for menopause muscle maintenance • What drives insulin resistance (hint: it’s not just carbs) • Why public health guidelines focus on survival—not optimization • The launch of Dr. Layman’s new Protein Quality Hub and how it can help you choose better protein sources Whether you’re in a fat loss phase, navigating perimenopause, or simply want to support long-term metabolic health, Dr. Layman’s research offers clarity and actionable steps you can start applying today. Free high-protein keto guide: The Keto Reset eBook 👤 Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @ketogenicgirl •🔗 Learn more about the TONE LUX Crystal red light therapy mask and the accessory the TONE LUX CONTOUR for the neck and decollete and get 20% OFF with the code VANESSA • Tone Collagen Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen. 📲 Stay Connected with Vanessa: Instagram: @ketogenicgirl ⭐️ If You Loved This Episode… Please consider leaving a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps more women discover the truth about protein, strength, and sustainable fat loss!

Aug 4, 2025 • 36min
Breaking News: Big Changes to the Dietary Guidelines Coming & What It Means for Fat Loss, Muscle & Metabolism: Dr. Don Layman (Part 2 of 2)
Unlock sharper focus and support long-term brain health with Ketone-IQ—clean brain fuel for deep work, mental clarity, and sustained energy with no crash. Get 30% off your subscription, plus a free gift with your second shipment at Ketone.com/vanessa. In Part 2 of this powerful interview, legendary protein researcher Dr. Donald Layman returns to the Optimal Protein Podcast to unpack some of the most misunderstood concepts in nutrition today—and to reveal potential groundbreaking changes to the U.S. dietary guidelines around protein, red meat, saturated fat, and carbohydrates. Dr. Layman breaks down what the science actually says about protein dosing, timing, oxidation, and muscle uptake—and who truly needs to worry about protein distribution. Vanessa and Dr. Layman also discuss: 🔬 Why protein timing matters more after age 30 🍽️ Why your first meal of the day may be the most critical for muscle preservation 🧠 Protein synthesis as a major driver of metabolism—and how it’s as energy-demanding as an hour of cardio 🔥 How high-protein diets increase fat loss by up to 300 calories per day via thermogenesis 🧬 AMPK, insulin, and muscle protein synthesis: what happens during fasted workouts and calorie restriction 💪 Why “lifting heavy” isn’t required—yoga, stretching, and muscle tension can preserve muscle as we age 🥩 The truth about red meat, saturated fat, and decades of flawed epidemiology 🧮 Dr. Layman’s 100g protein minimum for women, and why 1.2–1.6 g/kg is the sweet spot for recomposition 🌾 Why current global nutrition guidelines are built around survival—not optimal health—and how that’s changing 🌍 His new open-access protein quality hub to empower consumers and scientists alike This conversation is essential listening for anyone serious about optimizing their fat loss, preserving muscle, and finally understanding how protein quality and quantity affect long-term metabolic health. 🔗 Mentioned in the Episode: Dr. Layman’s new protein quality database Muscle Full Effect & importance of protein distribution in aging Connect with Vanessa on Instagram @ketogenicgirl Free High-Protein Keto Guide Get 20% off on the Tone LUX Crystal Red Light Therapy Mask or the Tone Device breath ketone analyzer at Ketogenicgirl.com with the code VANESSA Join the Community! Follow Vanessa on Instagram to see her meals, recipes, informative posts, and much more! Click here @ketogenicgirl Follow @optimalproteinpodcast on Instagram to see visuals and posts mentioned on this podcast. Link to join the Facebook group for the podcast The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice. Consult with a healthcare professional before making significant changes to your diet or exercise regimen.