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Jun 12, 2024 • 46min

Ep. 131: Hooman Radfar, Co-Founder & CEO of Collective, Scaling Solopreneurship To The 1 Person, 1 Billion Dollar Company

Hooman Radfar, co-founder and CEO of Collective, shares insights from his journey as a tech entrepreneur who sold AddThis to Oracle. He emphasizes the shift towards 'one person, one billion dollar businesses' and the importance of viewing freelancers as founders. Hooman breaks down the complexities of S-Corps and how Collective simplifies financial management for solopreneurs. He also explores the evolving freelance economy and the critical need for community support, encouraging collaboration over isolation in the pursuit of success.
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Jun 5, 2024 • 50min

Ep. 130: Stephanie Nadi Olson, Founder & Executive Chair of the Board Of We Are Rosie, Pioneering Marketing As We Know It Through Innovative Flexible Talent Models

Leaders, Stephanie is one of the pioneers of our industry. If we had a Mount Rushmore, Stephanie would be front and center. She's the founder and chair of the board of We Are Rosie, a leading marketing services company and freelance community that has grown to more than 30,000 "Rosies" and 200+ corporate partners. In 2021, after three years of unbelievable growth, We Are Rosie received a strategic investment from Align Capital Partners (ACP). In this episode, we’ll reflect on the last 6 years of Stephanie’s journey trailblazing the future of marketing. She’ll share the challenges and successes We Are Rosie has faced over the past few years, including shifts in client priorities and the perception of freelance work. We’ll get deep into the importance of trust, and the secrets Stephanie’s found for building strong relationships with both clients and talent. For example, she’ll teach us how she looks at the role of leadership and how important shared responsibility is in successfully adopting freelance talent. Tactically, she’ll teach us how We Are Rosie enables this by creating a positive onboarding experience, ensuring top-down support, and executing an end-to-end flexible talent solution rather than being just another marketplace or just another vendor. Stephanie will also talk about the exact ROI and use cases of flexible talent and teams. She’ll uncover what we mean by “specialist expertise on demand” and discuss the launch of Run by Rosie which manages marketing projects from start to finish. Last, Stephanie will give her predictions on the future of the freelance economy, as well as a warning against excessive consolidation and advocating for vertical expertise.
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May 29, 2024 • 43min

Ep. 129: Elina Jutelyte Founder of Freelance Business Community, Creating Value in Freelance Communities

Elina Jutelyte, the founder of Freelance Business Community, discusses the challenges and opportunities of hosting events and running freelance-based communities. She shares insights on the changing freelance economy and the role of platforms in freelancing. Elina emphasizes the importance of understanding the ROI of community and tailoring it to specific goals. She also provides indicators for companies to consider when investing in community and shares her vision for the future of freelancing. Key Takeaways: - Running events and communities for freelancers can provide valuable connections and support. - Platforms play a role in freelancing, but their effectiveness varies depending on the freelancer's location and industry. - The freelance economy has seen growth and changes, with more acceptance of freelancers and a need for specialized services. - The ROI of community depends on the specific goals and outcomes desired, and tracking engagement and results is crucial. - Indicators for investing in community include demand for content and connections, and the opportunity to fill a niche or address specific needs. - The future of freelancing and community involves increased support and protection for freelancers and the use of technology and AI to enhance connections and content. - During challenging times, community support can be invaluable for freelancers, providing advice, connections, and encouragement. This episode is brought to you by We Are Rosie, a leading flexible talent platform redefining how marketing works. Learn more at https://wearerosie.com
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May 22, 2024 • 53min

Ep. 128: Ricky Willianto, CEO of Ravenry & Solos, Innovative Solutions for the Future of Work

Leaders, In this episode, we’ll learn from Ricky Willianto. Ricky is the CEO of both Ravenry and Solos. Ravenry is a market research freelance network, and Solos is software designed for freelancers. Ricky has had a fascinating journey, starting as a freelancer himself. He then built a marketplace, pivoted several times, and now Ravenry has become a thriving market research network. In this episode, we're going to explore three key themes: Entrepreneurship in the Freelance Economy: What it's like to be an entrepreneur navigating this dynamic space. Keys to Success: What it takes to be truly successful in the freelance market, including Ricky's insightful pivots with Ravenry. Niche Freelance Platforms: The fastest-growing segment of freelance solutions and how Ravenry is pioneering a new approach to market research. Ravenry, based in Singapore, isn't just another freelance marketplace. It's a better way to drive market research through a freelance network. You'll hear about the geographical differences between Singapore/Southeast Asia and the US/EU, the differences in client expectations, and, most importantly, what it takes to be a successful entrepreneur in this arena. So sit back and get ready to drive some change.
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May 15, 2024 • 1h 4min

Ep. 127: Charlotte Gregson, Country Head UK at Malt: Unleashing the Power of Enterprise Freelancing

In this episode, we’ll learn from Charlotte Gregson, the Country Head of the UK for Malt. Malt is the largest independent talent marketplace operating in Europe and The Middle East, with a staggering 700,000 freelancers as part of their community.  Get ready to dive deep into the world of enterprise freelancing as we discuss the size and scope of Malt, the use cases for freelancers in the enterprise, and the balance between self-service and a white-glove experience. We also explore the importance of confidentiality and the evolution of the freelance marketplace. Overall, the conversation highlights the strategic value of freelancers in enterprise and the need for a tech-driven platform with a human touch. Key takeaways: How Malt strategically enables large enterprises to leverage freelance talent effectively. Malt’s unique approach, operating on a country-by-country basis, with Charlotte leading the charge in the UK. The delicate balance Malt strikes between self-service and white-glove experiences. The importance of confidentiality in this space. The critical role human expertise and processes play in driving success, complementing Malt's tech platform. Whether you're already tapped into the freelance workforce or just starting to explore, this episode is an essential listen. Get ready to rethink your approach to talent acquisition and project execution as Charlotte guides us through the freelance economy's intricacies.
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May 8, 2024 • 45min

Ep. 126: Christine Olivas, Founder & CEO of No Single Individual, The Power of Freelance Teams and Advertising

Agency and Freelance Leaders,  Are you ready for a masterclass on how to win as an agency, how to scale a talent platform, and how to balance the cultural and tactical aspects of scaling a freelance workforce?  In this episode, we will learn from Christine Olivas, Founder and CEO of No Single Individual (formerly known as Co Conspirators) which was founded in 2021 and is the ad industry’s preferred choice for freelance strategy talent. We’ll touch on how today’s advertising and marketing agencies can be successful by integrating freelancers within their talent strategy, as well as intentionally integrating freelancers into teams and talent planning rather than treating them as a secondary, “plug the hole” resource. We’ll also hit on two main blockers for successful freelance integration within agencies - (1) cultural challenges, specifically being open to freelancers, and (2) red tape, specifically the blockers to hire, onboard, and re-hire freelancers. Then, we’ll look at 4 keys to success that make No Single Individual a trusted partner for agencies: 1. Successful platforms inherently have founder market fit, and grow by scaling the founder, and the founder's book of business 2. Successful talent platforms are niche. They are not everything for everyone. In No Single Individual’s case, they are an agency that specializes in serving agencies.  3. Successful talent platforms make it easy to get started and know exactly what they’re hiring a freelancer for. In Christine’s case, her use cases, in order, are (1) Winning RFP’s and proposals, (2) Family leave and re-onboarding, (3) Skills outside of an agency's core, like influencer marketing, and (4) Scale in the volume needed to execute. 4. The reasons No Single Individual’s members freelance with them are (1) To collaborate with fellow freelancers, (2) To have predictability, (3) To focus on the work. It was truly a masterclass.  Christine brings full transparency in this episode. For example, she mentioned how they scaled from $500,000 in year 1 to $2 million now in year 4. Enjoy!
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May 1, 2024 • 48min

Ep. 125: Miles Everson, CEO of MBO Partners, Crossing The Talent Chasm

Leaders, MBO Partners has been the industry gold standard for Enterprises scaling their independent workforce and data on the independent workforce through their annual State of Independence Report. Started originally in 1996 by Gene Zaino, MBO stands for “My Business Office”, and has been leading the independent workforce ever since. Miles took over as CEO in 2019, after 30+ years leading PWC, including concepting and building PWC’s Talent Exchange, the brand’s talent marketplace. In this episode, we will clearly understand the size, scope, and nature of the independent workforce. By understanding this, we’ll then clearly understand why we call the current state of work a ‘talent chasm’, rather than fluffy names like the future of work. Specifically, we’ll dive deep into why now is the time that companies are being disrupted by the changing talent landscape. We’ll also dive deep into why this is no longer a Procurement or HR issue, but rather a P&L and growth issue. We’ll also learn from Miles how top companies are leaning in. Specifically, he’ll teach us MBO’s 3 “legs of the stool” approach of compliance, cost, and workforce optimization that uses education and mathematical value creation to drive the transformation needed.   Miles will also share crucial data points, like how the independent workforce making over $100,000 stands around 4.6 million people, and how the percentage of this population that sources work through talent platforms has grown from around 4% in 2012 to around 40% now.    Key takeaways: 1: Talent has changed, yet the strategy hasn’t. Specifically, talent has changed from a full-time, permanent workforce to an impact-based, fluid workforce with an average tenure of less than four years.  2: The impact of this new paradigm is that the old model, which was built around job roles, gets in the way of the new model of work that necessitates mission-critical teams.  3: Not adapting is no longer trivial. There’s a clear pattern of companies that stick to the old paradigm being left behind. Specifically, Miles shows us the clear ROI and valuation implications between companies that have a strategic independent workforce and companies that don’t.  4: There is a clear 3-step process to successful talent transformation.  Step 1: Align everyone around Human Capital scarcity Step 2: Educate everyone on how the independent workforce is where top talent is heading Step 3: Be Intentional about the risk, the mathematical value creation, and the stakeholders needed to drive this transformation  Enjoy!
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Apr 24, 2024 • 51min

Ep. 124: Christian Moldenhauer and David Küpper, Founders of expertpowerhouse: The Power of Freelance Experts And Consultants

Today we’re joined by Christian Moldenhauer and David Küpper, Founders of  expertpowerhouse, and both former BCG Consultants. Founded in 2016, expertpowerhouse has been a leader in the freelance consulting space globally. During this conversation, you'll learn why David and Christian have been so successful in building a freelance model that both scales and is sustainable. You will learn why freelance is such an advantage for consulting, and how freelance isn’t just a disruptor, but complementary to existing consulting models. Key takeaways: 1: Freelance consulting fills a gap that traditional consulting can’t, without freelance consulting replacing, but rather complementing traditional consulting 2: Fractional is a powerful new model for freelance experts 3: The small but mighty difference between a freelance consultant and freelance expert 4: The right person for 40% of the time is much more impactful than 100% of the wrong person
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Apr 17, 2024 • 46min

Ep. 123: Jai Dolwani, Founder of The Starters, Case Study For Talent Platform Innovation Through The Starters, A Subscription Based E-Commerce Fractional Talent Platform

Leaders, talent platforms are amid massive disruption. What started as large, everything store marketplaces, are expanding into numerous different models, for different segments, and each has its own disruptive nature that makes them unique.  No platform better shows this disruption than The Starters, a new fractional talent platform that combines e-commerce specialization and a business model disruption by being a subscription.  In this episode, we’ll learn from Jai, the founder and a former Chief Marketing Officer.   We’ll learn: 1: Why he chose a subscription-based model 2: Why he uses the term fractional   3: Why he specializes in E-commerce 4: How he’s scaled The Starters 5: Where he envisions The Starters and the trajectory of the freelance economy heading
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Apr 10, 2024 • 1h 2min

Ep. 122: Nuri Demirci Lopez, Microsoft: How to Lead Remote, Global, Freelance Teams

Enterprise Leaders, why should you care about the freelance economy? Yes…over half the US workforce will be freelancing in the next 5 years. Yes…there are over 300 million freelancers worldwide. And yes…freelancers encapsulate every skill, especially cutting-edge skills like AI, Blockchain, and Supply Chain, and have the exact expertise that you need.  But beyond that…why do you need to embrace remote, freelance models in your business?  There is no one better to explain than Nuri, Principal PM at Microsoft and Author of 'Leading the Unknown: Strategies for Leading Remote or Gig Teams'.  Microsoft has been a leader in embracing freelance models. They built the Microsoft Freelance Toolkit in 2018.  In this episode, we’ll discuss the benefits, but also get tactical about leading remote and gig teams.  We’ll discuss:  how the evolution of technology opened the door for the freelance economy the benefits of democratizing work and accessing global talent, The challenges of scaling freelance workforces in an Enterprise setting  How to go beyond just using a freelance platform, and instead enable collaboration with freelancers across the world

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