

Reason with Science
Jitender Kumar
Welcome to "Reason with Science", the podcast that explores the intersection of reason and science in our everyday lives. Billions of years of evolution led to a species which is asking questions about its own existence. This quest of humans is not possible without science. As we navigate an increasingly complex world, it's more important than ever to approach issues with a clear and evidence-based understanding. In this podcast, we'll dive into the latest research, explore fascinating topics, and interview experts in their respective fields to help us make sense of the world around us.
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Sep 17, 2022 • 1h 51min
Science, evolution and athiesm with PZ Myers
This episode is with Paul Zachary (PZ) Myers. He is an associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota where he works in the field of developmental biology. He is also a founder and author of Pharyngula science blog.
Here we talk about science based atheism, evolution of religion, god of gaps argument, origin and evolution of life, human values in the society, free speech and future of humanity.
Guest info:
Blog website: https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/pzmyers
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/PZMyersBiology
Episode links:
Website: https://www.reasonwithscience.com/home/scienceevolution-and-atheism-with-pz-myers
Youtube: https://youtu.be/SxyTgw8lYuI
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0TTztvoHbH7c8xI4b9UbAI?si=wuO3j2nrT1eRifB7dkwaIg
Apple podcast: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/show/reason-with-science/407cd478-4271-4319-8318-fc378d4e7ccb/episode/science-evolution-and-athiesm-with-pz-myers/62fb9808-521f-43d8-8afd-7dc03300fc6a
Google podcast: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9iMjMyNDZlOC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw/episode/MjJmZjJjZWEtZTIyNS00NzEzLWI4ZDMtMmMyMjI2NDAwYWY1?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwj41_fakZz6AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQLA
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Apple podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reason-with-science/id1641776894
Google podcast: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9iMjMyNDZlOC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:08 How did your scientific career started?
00:03:24 PZ's view on atheism 00:05:53 Science based atheism
00:08:29 Why we need to leave religion or God to become a scientist?
0:10:36 Preconceived biases because of faith
00:11:26 There's no clear definition of God
00:13:00 God of gaps argument
00:16:38 Can we bridge the gaps with science?
00:19:12 Transition of chemistry to biology (origin of life)
00:24:46 Evolution of life on the planet
00:29:06 Multicellularity and Sexual reproduction
00:34:59 Variation for natural selection
00:40:53 Role of chance in biology
00:44:45 Evolution-Development (Evo-Devo) biology
00:52:42 Hox genes
00:56:18 Evolutionary theory is most opposed theory!
00:59:07 Evolution of religion
01:01:58 Nature-nurture
01:04:38 Free will
01:07:28 Consciousness
01:12:58 Teleology (Purpose) in science
01:19:24 Religion in artificial intelligence
01:26:48 Morality and atheism
01:38:38 Meaning and purpose of life
01:41:31 Spirituality
01:46:07 Education and a dialogue
01:49:30 Thank you!

Sep 10, 2022 • 2h 5min
Reality is an illusion with Donald Hoffman
This is second episode with Donald Hoffman. Donald is a Professor Emeritus of Cognitive Sciences at the University of California, Irvine. He is an author of three books, including The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes. Here we talk about what is mathematics?, Interface theory of perception, fundamental nature of consciousness, origin of life, spiritual experiences and meaning of death.
Link for the first episode: https://youtu.be/pPJZm_-OKQ8).
Guest info:
Website: http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/donalddhoffman
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B001HPIWAW
Episode links:
Website: https://www.reasonwithscience.com/home/nature-of-reality-with-bernardo-kastrup/reality-is-an-illusion-with-donald-hoffman
Youtube: https://youtu.be/5zHdq_ba2W8
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/06YcGkK0C6wcFdSzu3E9Za?si=TyTDzaOkSUOiVW4jfP-ViA
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Apple podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reason-with-science/id1641776894
Google podcast: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9iMjMyNDZlOC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:51 Interface theory of perception
00:09:12 Reductionist approach in science
00:13:52 What is mathematics?
00:22:12 Emergence of mathematics
00:25:28 Conscious agents and complexity
00:32:52 Modern science on consciousness
00:39:07 Experiments to study structures beyond space-time
00:57:19 Complexity from conscious agents
01:03:03 Is there an objective reality?
01:09:19 Limited semantics to explain reality beyond space-time
01:15:34 Intelligence and consciousness
01:17:39 Perception of a self
01:24:30 Is consciousness a gradient or discrete?
01:27:14 Understanding universal consciousness
01:38:38 Meditation, psychedelics and spiritual experiences
01:40:40 Bernardo Kastrup's analytical idealism
01:43:37 Fundamental consciousness is scientific or philosophical problem
01:47:26 Can we go beyond our interface to see reality?
01:49:44 Importance of silence in life
01:55:16 Worldview of consciousness as fundamental
02:03:50 Thank you!
Other conversations and talks:
1) Do we see reality as it is? @TED
2) Donald Hoffman on Ultimate Reality @Closer To Truth
3) The Case Against Reality @Skeptic
4) The Death of SpaceTime & Birth of Conscious Agents @Science and Nonduality
5) Donald Hoffman Λ Joscha Bach on Consciousness, Free Will, and Gödel [Theolocution] @Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
6) The Case Against Reality @The Institute of Art and Ideas 7) Lex Fridman @Lex Fridman (https://youtu.be/reYdQYZ9Rj4)
#reasonwithscience #consciousness #donaldhoffman

Sep 6, 2022 • 1h 1min
The edge of our solar system with Konstantin Batygin
This is a conversation with Konstantin Batygin. He is a planetary science professor at Caltech known for his work on planet 9. He is also a part of a rock band "The seventh season". In this conversation we talk about how do new solar systems form?, what is a planet?, Planet 9, Kuiper belt, and the Edge of our solar system.
More about Konstantin's work: https://www.konstantinbatygin.com/
Follow him in Twitter: https://twitter.com/kbatygin
His music and band: https://theseventhseason.band/home
Time stamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:51 Science and music
00:04:37 How our solar system formed?
00:10:33 How different planets form?
00:13:13 Solar system as a disc
00:14:34 Rocky and gas planets
00:18:39 What sort of planets form first?
00:21:36 Orbits of the planets during the formation of a solar system
00:25:45 What is a planet?
00:28:41 Major contribution of planets in the stability of a solar system
00:30:52 Gravitational Pull 00:33:47 Why there's Planet 9?
00:36:27 History of Planet 9!
00:42:11 Why don't we have the evidence for planet 9 yet?
00:45:01 Tools to study unexplored part of solar system
00:47:44 Kuiper belt
00:48:08 What kind of planet is planet 9?
00:49:19 Orbit of Planet 9
00:51:07 Can planet 9 be a black hole?
00:53:40 What is the edge of our solar system?
00:55:36 Oumuamua
01:00:00 Concluding and thanks!

Sep 3, 2022 • 2h 25min
Nature of reality with Bernardo Kastrup
This episode is with Bernardo Kastrup.Bernardo is an author, philosopher, and director of the Essentia Foundation. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy and another Ph.D. in computer engineering specializing in artificial intelligence. As a scientist, Bernardo has worked for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) and the Philips Research Laboratories (where the 'Casimir Effect' of Quantum Field Theory was discovered).In this conversation we talk about drawbacks of materialism, what is consciousness?, nature of reality, panpsychism, analytical idealism, free will, what is time?, meaning of life and death.
Guest info:
Website: https://www.bernardokastrup.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BernardoKastrup
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BernardoKastrup/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bernardo-Kastrup/e/B004OFGCA4/
Episode links:
Website: https://www.reasonwithscience.com/home/nature-of-reality-with-bernardo-kastrup
Youtube: https://youtu.be/hP8zqrVndfQ
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/67MtexvfkKy95rZv5ylZ2F?si=rJWth3e0R8mY7CkwMubSmQ
Apple podcast: https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/my-podcasts/show/reason-with-science/407cd478-4271-4319-8318-fc378d4e7ccb/episode/nature-of-reality-with-bernardo-kastrup/f99141b8-28a8-415e-b47c-a379664d3e66
Google podcast: https://podcastsmanager.google.com/episode?show=show%3AktGOqSvOM5S386E5jDIB0g&episode=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9iMjMyNDZlOC9wb2RjYXN0L3BsYXkvNTcwMzY4NDUvaHR0cHMlM0ElMkYlMkZkM2N0eGxxMWt0dzJubC5jbG91ZGZyb250Lm5ldCUyRnN0YWdpbmclMkYyMDIyLTgtMyUyRjcwZjY0ZTJmLWJjYzQtOGUzMi1lMjc1LTMyMWM0ZDNiYzdkNi5tcDM&daterange=LAST_28D&hl=en
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:02 Most difficult questions about the cosmos
00:02:54 Science and materialism
00:05:27 Limitations of minds
00:07:36 How well science describes the nature of reality?
00:11:43 Is consciousness an illusion?
00:16:39 Issues with materialism
00:25:24 Origin of life
00:27:56 Science of complexity
00:33:54 How to refute emergence of consciousness?
00:42:19 Psychedelic experiences
00:48:19 Consciousness under analytical idealism
00:50:33 Idealism and trans-personal experiences
00:57:16 Origin of consciousness
01:00:38 What is wetness of the water?
01:05:36 Panpsychism and Solipsism
01:17:58 Consciousness in other species
01:24:31 Will artificial life be conscious?
01:29:10 What is death?
01:33:02 Idealism for meaning of life
01:39:46 What is time?
01:48:11 Western mind
01:53:44 Science of consciousness under idealism
02:24:14 Thank you!

Sep 2, 2022 • 1h 15min
Alien intelligent life with Avi Loeb
This is a conversation with a theoretical physicist Avi Loeb. He is a Professor of Science at Harvard University and a bestselling author of the book "Extraterrestrial: the first sign of an intelligent life beyond earth" In this conversation we talk about are we alone in the universe?, first interstellar object named Oumuamua, how we can detect alien intelligent life and the Galileo project.
More about Avi's work: https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/
Buy Avi's book:
https://www.amazon.com/Extraterrestrial-First-Intelligent-Beyond-Earth-ebook/dp/B081TTY4NX
Timeline of the session:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:22 Journey to become a professor at Harvard university
00:07:15 Drake's equation and number of intelligent civilizations in the Universe
00:13:36 Oumuamua 00:17:55 Oumuamua like objects
00:18:55 Oumuamua product of another intelligent civilization
00:24:40 Nature of Oumuamua
00:31:26 The Galileo project
00:37:38 Size of the extraterrestrial objects and our telescopes
00:42:02 Are we ready to meet an alien intelligent civilization?
00:50:56 Scientific method
00:58:29 Are there any good/bad questions in science?
01:02:20 Wars and progress of humanity!
01:04:45 Impact of realizing that we are not alone!
01:05:45 Probability of humanity getting extinct!
01:07:49 Space exploration
01:10:11 Purpose of humanity
01:12:36 Future of astrophysics and humanity
01:14:23 Thank you!
Other conversations and talks:
1) Intelligent Life Beyond Earth @Commonwealth Club of California
2) Was Earth visited by intelligent life? @KTLA 5
3) Aliens, Black Holes, and the Mystery of the Oumuamua @Lex Fridman
4) How the Scientific Community Isn't Open Minded @PowerfulJRE
5) Avi Loeb on evidence of close extraterrestrial encounters @CBS Mornings
6) Extraterrestrial Life ( https://youtu.be/uFrBcy0P6iM) @Museum of Science, Boston
#reasonwithscience #aliens #aviloeb

Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 22min
Science of Testosterone with Carole Hooven
This is a conversation with Carole Hooven. She teaches in and co-directs the undergraduate program in the Department of Human Evolutionary Biology at Harvard University. She is also an author of a great book "T: The story of testosterone". Here we talk about what is testosterone?, Evolution of testosterone, how it affects the behavior and shapes the society?
More about Carole's work: http://www.carolehooven.com/
Follow Carole on twitter: https://twitter.com/hoovlet
Episode links:
1) Website: https://www.reasonwithscience.com/home/science-of-testosterone-with-carole-hooven
2) Youtube: https://youtu.be/mYqz5OYMvRI
Timeline of the session:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:18 Carole's work area
00:03:36 Motivation to write a book on Testosterone
00:07:46 What is testosterone?
00:19:08 Testosterone levels
00:20:30 How do we define a male or a female?
00:27:56 Effects of Testosterone
00:36:04 Red deer and Testosterone levels
00:42:21 Effects of testosterone in other apes
00:47:15 Correlation between hierarchies and T-levels
00:48:29 Testosterone levels during lifetime
00:49:39 CAH (Congenital Androgen Hyperplasia) and CAIS (Congenital Androgen Insensitive Syndrome)
00:58:56 T-levels during the process of sex-change
01:03:29 Testosterone and homosexuality
01:07:08 Deterministic view of Testosterone
01:09:49 Meditation and testosterone
01:14:21 Testosterone and the society
01:21:06 Thank you!
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Aug 28, 2022 • 45min
The future of humanity with Martin Rees
This episode is with Martin Rees. Prof. Rees is a cosmologist and astrophysicist at Cambridge University and co-founder of the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk. He was President of the Royal Society. His latest book is 'On the future: Prospects for humanity'. In this conversation we talk about the evidence for big bang, aliens, threats to humanity, space travel and how to envision the future of humanity?
More about Martin's work: https://www.martinrees.uk/
Follow Martin on twitter: https://twitter.com/LordMartinRees
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:55 Progress of humanity so far!
00:01:53 Contribution of science and technology to the future of humanity
00:04:40 What is science and technology?
00:06:16 Debates on science and religion
00:07:20 Copernican revolution
00:08:55 Our place in the universe
00:12:26 How complexity arises from matter?
00:13:23 Is everything deterministic?
00:14:28 Predicting effectively
00:15:46 How will we go extinct?
00:18:09 Issues with globalization
00:20:03 Why can't we resolve the issues of climate change?
00:22:50 Should we be alarmed about genetic engineering?
00:27:21 Artificial intelligence and it's future impacts
00:29:29 Silicon-based future of humanity
00:31:26 Humanity beyond earth
00:33:25 Humans exploring the universe
00:37:13 Space exploration advantages
00:39:30 Other species for humans survival
00:41:25 Message to humanity
00:44:22 Thank you!

Aug 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
Evolution of gender with Frans De Waal
This episode is with Frans De Waal. He is a professor in Emory University's psychology department and the Director of the Living Links Center at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center. He is the author of several popular books like 'Chimpanzee politics', The age of empathy' and 'The bonobo and the atheist'. His latest book is 'Different: gender through the eyes of a primatologist'.
In this conversation we talk about evolution of sex and gender in humans, primates, and mammals.
More about Frans's work: https://www.emory.edu/LIVING_LINKS/people/dewaal.shtml
List of his books: https://www.amazon.com/Frans-De-Waal/e/B000APOHE0/ref=aufs_dp_mata_dsk
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:54 Primatologist's take on gender
00:06:54 Biases in human cultures
00:08:15 Sex and gender in the society
00:10:58 Difference between sex and gender
00:15:11 Toxic masculinity
00:16:48 Do sapiens have male dominated societies?
00:20:20 Power struggles in the societies
00:21:39 Violence in the societies
00:23:47 Violence in the bonobos
00:25:10 Can we decrease the violence?
00:28:19 Can nurture control nature?
00:28:50 Rapes in primates
00:31:15 Friendship, cooperation and peacemaking
00:35:39 Monogamy in primates
00:37:06 Same-sex sex
00:39:31 Transgenders
00:45:23 Maternal instincts and xenophobia
00:52:37 How far nurture can change nature?
01:00:07 Thank you!

Apr 19, 2022 • 1h 2min
Food for your health with Dr. Robert Lustig
This is a conversation with Dr. Robert Lustig. Dr. Lustig is a neuroendocrinologist with expertise in metabolism, obesity, and nutrition. He’s the Emeritus Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology at UCSF. His latest book is Metabolical: The Lure and the Lies of Processed Food, Nutrition, and Modern Medicine. In this conversation we talk about role of processed food in the chronic diseases, Focus of modern medicine, what is the best diet?, science of sugar and importance of nutrition.
Find our more about Dr. Lustig's work: https://robertlustig.com/
Check out his books: https://robertlustig.com/books/
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:14 What does healthy mean?
00:08:06 Prevention is better than cure!
00:09:16 Focus of present medicine
00:13:04 Metabolic syndrome
00:16:56 A calorie is calorie!
00:23:51 Protect the liver and feed the gut!
00:25:31 Importance of fiber in diet!
00:28:38 Role of exercise for health
00:30:42 Changing the society for good health
00:33:00 Role of genetics and metabolic syndrome
00:37:31 What is a good diet?
00:41:32 Intermittent fasting
00:43:25 Sugar in processed food
00:45:35 Real foods
00:48:23 Public education about nutrition
00:57:46 Eating desserts
01:01:18 Thank you!

Oct 24, 2021 • 1h 13min
Bats | Pandemics | Women in Science | Alice Hughes | Reason with Science | Evolution | Biodiversity
This is second part of the conversation with Prof. Alice Hughes. She is working at XTBG in China. Her work focuses on understanding patterns of biodiversity and drivers of biodiversity change, with an aim to form more rigorous & appropriate conservation. In this conversation we discuss about what are bats, evolution of bats, importance of the bats for the biodiversity, bats and viruses, eating bats, bats and pandemic, biodiversity, importance of biodiversity, various ways for biodiversity conservation, diversity in science and women in science.
Guest info:
Website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNTYjVHFATRbARoPvs-VYFplsy6WSZpJ8CLexygh2IA/edit
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AliceCHughes?s=20
Episode links:
Website: https://www.reasonwithscience.com/home/bats-pandemic-and-women-in-science-with-alice-hughes
Youtube: https://youtu.be/lmtiT04a1so
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:51 What are bats?
04:57 How many species of bats?
05:42 Evolution of bats?
08:12 Habitats of bats?
11:35 Immunity of bats
17:00 Are bats beautiful?
21:14 Eating bats
24:49 Why we should know, what to eat
26:30 Lifestyle for you and others
27:18 Why do we need biodiversity?
31:10 Biodiverse world
31:31 Challenges for the conservation of biodiversity
34:22 Biodiversity and role of consumers
36:13 Being conscious of what are you eating
39:13 What you can do from distance for biodiversity conservation?
44:03 Supporting local populations to support biodiversity
51:17 Diversity in science 52:28 Gender roles in science
54:53 Science of genders
57:02 How to overcome gender biases?
1:00:30 Can 50-50% formula work in research institutes?
1:05:10 Education and science communication to flourish science
1:07:27 Nobel prizes for women!
1:09:38 Experience of a woman in science
1:11:24 Find out more about Alice's work
1:12:07 Thanks!