

The Cloudcast
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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Jul 3, 2015 • 14min
The Cloudcast #202 - DockerCon - Project 6 from Datawise.io
Aaron and Brian talk to Jeff Chou (CEO/Founder @DatawiseIO) and Luis Robles (CTO/Founder @DatawiseIO) about their system-level experience building Cisco UCS, the challenges of networking and storage for containers, Project 6, and a start-ups view on the Docker ecosystem and plugin architecture.
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Links from the show:
Datawise.io Website
Project 6 GitHub
Thanks for the Docker folks for having us! - DockerCon 2015 on YouTube

Jun 29, 2015 • 26min
The Cloudcast #201 - DockerCon - Secure Hybrid Cloud OS with Apcera
Aaron and Brian talk to Josh Ellithorpe (@zquestz), Software Architect for Apcera's Hybrid Cloud Operating System and what it was like to blaze a trail prior to Docker and we dig deep into security and granularity policies in cloud native apps.
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Links from the show:
Apcera Website
Beyond Containers: Agility and Security in Docker Delivery on YouTube
Thanks for the Docker folks for having us! - DockerCon 2015 on YouTube
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 27, 2015 • 17min
The Cloudcast #199 - Docker Security
Aaron and Brian talk to Diogo Monica and Nathan McCauley (@diogomonica and @nathanmccauley; Security Leads @Docker) about their security background at Square, Docker Notary, how security is evolving around containers, Docker best practices and tools, and how Docker is treating container security with Windows.
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Links from the show:
Docker Notary
Understanding Docker Security Best Practices
Docker Bench Security (automate the security checks)
Topic 1 - Being “the Security Guys” at one of the hottest companies on the planet has to be on the more interesting jobs out there. Tell us about your background.
Topic 2 - A few months ago, there was some concerns about “container security”, and then Docker came out with a bunch of Best Practices. How quickly is security focus ramping up within Docker?
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about Docker “Notary”. What is it, how does it work?
Topic 4 - Docker has a focus on developers - Solomon said this morning during the keynote,
“Reinvent the Developers Toolbox - for Distributed Applications”. We were talking at lunch that Security isn’t top of mind for them.
Topic 5 - How does the Windows + Docker activities fit into this security framework?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 19, 2015 • 19min
The Cloudcast #198 - Architecting Cloud Foundry
Aaron and Brian talk to Chip Childers (@chipchilders, VP of Technology @CloudFoundryOrg) about the current status of Cloud Foundry projects, how Microsoft .NET will be integrated, IaaS vs. PaaS, and the CF.org thinking about overall interoperability
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Topic 1 - From an overall project perspective, what grades would you give Cloud Foundry in terms of stability, core functionality, security, operations, etc?
Topic 2 - You were previously involved (directly/indirectly)with CloudStack. As you talk to people in the marketplace, how is it different discussing IaaS vs. PaaS.
Topic 3 - How much ability will you have to drive prioritization within sub-projects or new projects? (eg. Security vs. new Languages vs. Interop, etc.)
Topic 4 - What’s the CF.org way of thinking about interoperability?
Topic 5 - What guidance are you giving the teams in terms of expandability of Cloud Foundry? Architecturally, are there certain places you recommend over other places?
Topic 6 - Is there a place for integrating SaaS applications (monitoring, logging, etc.) into Cloud Foundry?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 17, 2015 • 21min
The Cloudcast #197 - Tectonic Shifts at CoreOS
Aaron and talks to Brian ‘Redbeard’ Harrington (@brianredbeard, Principal Architect, CoreOS) about beardliness, CoreOS Fest, Project “Tectonic” and the latest on the “appc” specification as it relates to container formats.
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Links from the show:
APPC Spec Gains New Support
CoreOS State of the Union, from CoreFest
Brian’s talk at ContainerCamp (“Container days keynote: lessons learned from wearz, POSIX, and distributed computing”)
Brian’s talk about “CoreOS Flannel”
Topic 1 - Besides being the Most Interesting Beard in the Cloud, give us some of your background?
Topic 2 - Let’s talk about CoreOS Fest - Give us a quick recap and some of the highlights for you
Topic 3 - Tell us about “Tectonic” - Commercial Kubernetes Platform
Topic 4 - What’s the latest on Application Container Specification (“appc”) - https://github.com/appc/spec. Do you think we’ll just see multiple container specs going forward (as we’ve seen with lots of technologies in the past), or is it possible that some will converge (or go away)?
Topic 5 - You’re a systems person. Help us connect the dots in the CoreOS stack - from OS to Container Spec (rkt) to Discovery (etcs) to Networking (flannel) to Schedulers (kubernetes)
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 16, 2015 • 17min
The Cloudcast #196 - Inside Cloud Foundry Operations
Aaron and Brian talk to Cornelia Davis (@cdavisafc; Cloud Foundry Platform Engineering at Pivotal) about her experience working on the Pivotal Web Services Operations Team, her experience as both a developer and operator and why she believes that Containers-alone aren't enough to build a PaaS platform.
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Links from the show:
Competing with Software, It takes a Platform
Cornelia's Blog at Pivotal
Revelations from the Field - Life in the Operations Team
Topic 1 - You were a developer first. You write a great blog post on the benefits to operations as well as developers from PaaS. Can you elaborate?
Topic 2 - You spoke at the EMC {code} event at EMC World, what did you talk about what was your experience at the event?
Topic 3 - I liked in your presentation you had a slide on smoother effort, less risk. Tell us a little more about that concept and how it relates to running large operations at scale.
Topic 4 - You also mention containers aren’t enough. Tell us what you mean by that?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 13, 2015 • 22min
The Cloudcast #195 - Farming Cloud Apps with Rancher
Aaron talks to Sheng Liang (@shengliang; Co-Founder/CEO of Rancher.io) & Shannon Williams (@smw355; Co-Founder/VP of Rancher.io) about their history at Cloud.com, building a full-solution stack around Docker, the tiny-OS market, and the tradeoffs between containers vs VMs.
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Links from the show:
Rancher Labs Website
Topic 1 - You guys were behind the original Cloud.com and CloudStack technology. How’d you get to this point and what have you learned in the last 3-4 years?
Topic 2 - Let’s start with “Rancher” (or Rancher.io). It seems like it’s Cloudstack for Docker. How far does it extend - container scheduler? manage availability? plugin for 3rd-parties?
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about RancherOS. A tiny-OS built specifically for containers. This is suddenly a crowded space (CoreOS, VMware Photon, RedHat Atomic, Canonical/Ubuntu Core). Do we really need another round of Linux OS wars, or fragmentation?
Topic 4 - You recently announced Rancher VM, which is KVM inside a container. Talk about the differences between running Containers in VMs and VMs in Containers? What are the trade-offs and benefits?
Topic 5 - Cloudstack has always been known as more complete (“a solution”) than OpenStack. Is that fundamentally the same approach you’re taking to managing containers with Rancher?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 10, 2015 • 23min
The Cloudcast #194 - DevOps Down to the Rack Level
Aaron talks to Cole Crawford (CEO/Founder of Vapor.io, Founding executive director of Open Compute project and Co-founder of OpenStack) about momentum for Open Compute, rethinking how Data Center racks are designed, and the Vapor.io stack - OpenMist OS, Open DCRE and CORE.
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Links from the show:
Vapor Homepage - http://www.vapor.io/
Topic 1 - Tell us about your background. It’s very extensive in both open source (software) and open hardware.
Topic 2 - The company is described as “the first hyper converged and truly data defined data center solution”. Please translate that for us :)
Topic 3 - For a small company, you have some large (conceptual) offerings - common hardware, rack-level provisioning, and this unique new rack model. Just how ambitious are you guys? (hardware with API’s!)
Topic 4 - OpenMist OS (just launched). Let’s talk about each of the core pieces - Open DCRE (Data Center Runtime Environment). Is this an open BMC (Board Management Controller)?
Topic 5 - Vapor CORE - This seems like RAID (Storage) meets BGP / HSRP (Networking) and compute scheduling (vCenter) all mashed together, with APIs to higher-level services (eg. Mesosphere or Docker)
Topic 6 - Vapor Chamber - at first glance, this seems like The Big Green Egg (grill) for data center equipment. Fair analogy?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

Jun 6, 2015 • 20min
The Cloudcast #193 - Andy Weir, Author of "The Martian"
Aaron and Brian talk to Andy Weir (@andyweirauthor), author of The Egg and The Martian. We cover the connection between Open Source Software and writing, Aaron gets geeky about the book, the latest on the upcoming movie, tips for new authors, and even talk a little bit about the Ready Player One universe.
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Links from the show:
Andy's Website
Andy's Keynote Talk at Cloud Foundry Summit
The Martian Movie (November 2015)
Lacero Short Story
Topic 1 - For those that aren’t familiar with The Martian, can you tell everyone a little bit about the book?
Topic 2 - The Martian been turned into a movie. I’ve read that you had a peek at the script. In the book there is a lot on internal dialog (no one to talk to on Mars), any insight into how this will be handled in the movie?
Topic 3 - Your book started out as a self published book. I read your AMA on Reddit, you recommend self publishing through Amazon as a great avenue for those starting out. What was the process like and any other suggestions for writers looking to break into the field?
Topic 4 - I’ve heard it took you a few years to write the book due to all the research involved. In your opinion, How close are we to being able to have a colony on Mars? What’s stopping us technology wise and where did you have to “fudge” a bit in the book?
Topic 5 - Another great book I’ve read recently is Ready Player One. You did a short story called Lacero based in the universe. It is a great short read and adds an amazing twist to the entire story. It’s really cool how such a short piece of work actually adds an amazing amount of depth to the original book. Where did the idea come from?
Topic 6 - What’s next?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)

May 28, 2015 • 23min
The Cloudcast #192 - Pets, Cattle & Chickens
Aaron and Brian talk to Bernard Golden (@, VP of Strategy, ActiveState) about the latest from ActiveState, Bernard's extensive writing experience, as how containers are changing the pets vs. cattle model.
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Links from the show:
Why the Enterprise Needs Shadow IT to Succeed
Bernard's Third Platform Article
Pets, Cattle & Chickens?
Topic 1 - For those that aren’t familiar, give everyone a brief introduction.
Topic 2 - We spoke to Bart almost two years ago about ActiveState, I’m sure a lot has changed… What about containers? (Pets, Cattle, and Chickens blog)
Topic 2.5 - You’re latest article on CIO.com was very interesting. It was about why the Enterprise Needs Shadow IT. Can you tell everyone about it?
Topic 3 - You’ve been very open about your support of public cloud and AWS (you wrote the AWS for Dummies Book). What is your position these days now that you daily work is on the Platform side?
Topic 4 - Talk of growth on third platform going forward (your blog and IDC report), We’ve said many times on this podcast, starve the old, feed the new. How disruptive is third platform compared to traditional IT going forward?
Topic 5 - How and where does PaaS (or just platforms) fit into third platform(s) vs. just straight up microservices/12 factor apps/containers/etc. What are the benefits
Topic 6 - Finally, you worked for George Reese at Enstratus/Enstratius. Is he as grumpy is he is in public on Twitter?
Music Credit: Nine Inch Nails (nin.com)