The Cloudcast

Aaron talks with Ben Hindman (@benh; Co-creator of ApacheMesos, Founder of @mesosphere) about his time at Twitter, building Mesos, understanding problems at scale, how Mesos compares to Kubernetes, Mesosphere DCOS and the recent announcements with Microsoft. Interested in growing your career and networking with professionals in the Data Center and Cloud industry? Attend John Troyer's The Reckoning event, in Half Moon Bay, CA on September 13-14. Cloudcast listeners can get $100 discount by entering promo-code: CLOUDCAST. Interested in the O'Reilly Velocity NYC? Want a chance at a free pass for VelocityConf NYC? Send us your interesting journey in Web-Scale Operations to show@thecloudcast.net by Friday July 10th and we'll pick a winner! Want to register for Velocity Conference now? Use promo code 20CLOUD for 20% off Check out the Velocity Schedule Free eBook from O'Reilly Media for Cloudcast Listeners! Links from the show: Dave Lester from Twitter/ApacheMesos on #155 Understanding Mesos Kenneth Hui’s Series on Apache Mesos Microsoft / MesoSphere Announcement Thanks for the MesosCon folks for having us! - MesosCon Homepage Topic 1 -  Give us some of your background and how you went from working on Apache Mesos at Twitter to becoming involved with Mesosphere? Topic 2 - It’s been about a year since we talked about Mesos on the show. We’ve talked about Kubernetes a few times. Can you give us the basics of each of those technologies because sometimes people confuse them or think they are interchangeable or overlapping. Topic 3 -  Let’s talk about Mesosphere and DCOS (Data Center Operating System). People talk about “durable and declarative” infrastructure for applications. How does DCOS accomplish this? Topic 4 - Mesosphere includes not only systems and schedulers for the underlying container infrastructure, but also application-level schedulers. What are the differences, and how does a development team vs. an ops team interact with Mesosphere? Topic 5 - What types of applications are you seeing Mesosphere customers running in this new environment? One thing we heard at VelocityConf was that there is work within Apache Mesos to look at adding support for stateful applications or stateful data - what’s the status of that?

Description: Aaron talks with Jim Zemlin (@jzemlin, Executive Director Linux Foundation) about the continued rise of Open Source in our daily lives and necessary role of open source foundations. We also find out he has a favorite project! Check out O-Reilly's new initiative, Learning Paths. For a limited time, Learning Paths will be available for $99, check it out! Announcements from LinuxCon: IO Visor Project Kinetic Open Storage Project Open Mainframe Project Open Container Initiative Topic 1 - First question we have to ask about is foundations. What is changing in the market or with communities that we’ve seen so many get created in the last 12-18 months? Topic 2 - Some people have said that foundations are becoming the new standards committees, which had a reputation for slowing down innovation. Does technology move so fast these days that we need to introduce some “governors” to pace it a little better, or do you have a different opinion? Topic 3 -  We’re seeing more “traditional” companies get engaged with open source software, typically via the foundations. What guidance do you give their leadership, especially if open source isn't part of their core business model today? Topic 4 -  The Linux Foundation is involved in so many interesting technologies. Without picking a favorite child, what areas or trends are really grabbing your attention these days?

Brian talks with Madhura Maskasky (@madhuramaskasky, Co-Founder/ VP Product @Platform9) about the evolution of Platform9, offloading the Private Cloud learning curve, SaaS management, and the intersection of VMware and OpenStack for customers. Links from the show: Platform9 Website Madhura’s Bio Kenneth Hui's Platform9 Blog Topic 1 - We had your Co-Founder, Sirish Raghuram, on the show back in August 2014 when you were just going out of stealth. Tell us about your background and some of the lessons the team learned in getting from Beta to GA and early customers. Topic 2 - It’s nice to see the Cloud-Management-as-a-Service trend gain traction. How challenging has it been to get customers to understand the concept of on-premises hardware, but SaaS-based management? Topic 3 - We often talk about companies like Uber or AirBnB, that have taken the concept of “asset-less” and make it very disruptive and successful in their specific industries. Platform9 has a similar concept, in that the customer still owns the equipment. How much economic flexibility do that give you as a company?   Topic 4 - One of the things you’re announcing this week, as well as a new round of funding, is interoperability with VMware. As you talk to customers, what problems are they trying to solve by co-existing VMware and OpenStack? And what does “interoperability” mean? Topic 5 - OpenStack is starting to explore how container technology might fit into that architecture. You’ve written about container standards before, having been through the OVF “standard” at VMware. Should customers care about container standards at this point, or is this mostly a vendor/community issue?

Brian talks with Nathen Harvey (@nathenharvey, Community Manager @chef) about how he became a Community Manager, his passion for DevOps, The Food Fight podcast, the future of configuration management and the best first steps to developing the skills to build infrastructure-as-code at your company. Interested in the Tech Reckoning? Our friend John Troyer (@jtroyer) does an outstanding job building communities. He's hosting an awesome event in Half Moon Bay, CA on Sept.13-14 for  IT professionals and leaders that are shaping the future of the industry. You don't want to miss this one! Sign up here! http://signup.techreckoning.com Save $100 on registration by using code "cloudcast" Sign up for the weekly newsletter - http://techreckoning.com/ Links from the show: Chef Homepage Learn Chef Nathen's Blog Nathen on GitHub The Food Fight Show (podcast) Topic 1 - Tell us about your background and how you evolved into doing Community Management - and what does community management mean for a mix of open source and commercial “stuff”? Topic 2 - We listen to Michael Ducy’s Goat Farm podcast, and hear a number of people from Chef speak at various events. It feels like what Chef is focused on is more about hands-on cultural change than technology. Is that a fair assessment of how it’s evolving? Topic 3 - I heard you speak recently at a Triangle DevOps event about Infrastructure-as-Code, which is a big concept, but it’s grounded in actual technology. But that topic always gets wrapped up in DevOps and all these other analogies (Unicorn, Goats, etc..). Does that get old for you, or is it just the nature of working on stuff that’s trying to change 20yrs of previous habits and culture?  Topic 4 - Let’s talk about config management. There’s this new believe/buzz that maybe Docker eliminates the needs for previous config-mgmt system. Why are we hearing that discussion, and what are the broader realities of config-mgmt (and Infrastructure as Code)? Topic 5 - I feel like we have a big problem brewing, if this Cloud Native apps (Microservices, 12-Factor, etc.) stuff takes off, because a lot of the principles of DevOps are so foreign in today’s Ops teams. What do you recommend to people to get to learning and doing things “the right way” more quickly?

Aaron and Brian talk to Christian Reilly (@reillyusa; CTO @Citrix) about the future. They discuss how far we are from availability and adoption of many of the systems laid out in a futuristic video. They discuss the challenges of modifying long-held social norms and adapting legal environments to adjust to new technology. Links from the show: Citrix Future Video The Healthcare of Things 2020 Technology Landscape Topic 1 - How much of this is entirely public cloud based vs. on-prem? - Tesla - Large Screens - Business Stuff in the Cars [TODAY] - Self Driving Cars - 3D Holograms with Tablets - Displays - Seamless Collaboration Handoffs - What do we call the workable, flat workspaces? - Movable / Interactive Apps within touch screens Topic 2 - Seamless blending of business and personal information (eg. calendars) - Embedded Internet in the TV- A Useful UI on the TV (touch screen) - or is this just a display?- Wearable medical monitoring (“the patch”)- Elimination of medical paperwork Topic 3 - Google Glasses (wearable) - Massively interactive 3D display - Micro drones from the watch - Collaboration Tables + Collaboration displays

Brian talks to Sumeet Singh (Founder/CEO @AppFormix) his background at Cisco and Microsoft, the challenges of shared infrastructure, how Appformix works across Docker and OpenStack, and what to expect from the start-up moving forward. Links from the show: AppFormix Homepage AppFormix VC Funding Topic 1 - Tell us about yourself and some background on AppFormix. Topic 2 - Let’s talk about the core problem that AppFormix is trying to solve. Is this a public cloud problem, or does it also apply to private clouds? Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the AppFormix technology. How does it work? How far does it extend across the infrastructure? Topic 4 - How will the technology be packaged and go to market? How will customers engage with it? Topic 5 - How will AppFormix work with other systems that collect/log/monitor information?

Aaron and Brian talk to Jeff Dickey (@jeffdickey; Chief Innovation Officer @Redapt) and John Griffith (@jdg_8, Software Engineer @SolidFire) about the evolution of Redapt, best practices for building large-scale clouds, comparing OpenStack to Docker communities and how the ecosystem is changing from Vendor to SP to VAR. Links from the show: Redapt Homepage Jeff Dickey's Bio NextCast Podcasts Thanks for the Docker folks for having us! - DockerCon 2015 on YouTube Topic 1 - Tell us about yourself and some background on Redapt. Topic 1a - You both have OpenStack background. Why are you here at DockerCon? Topic 2 - Aaron knows Redapt from his day job, but you really got on our radar the past few weeks with a bunch of announcements recently (eg CoreOS Fest + Tectonic). How did Redapt get involved with delivering solutions around these new Cloud Native frameworks? Topic 3 - What you do is really a next-step in how companies are able to build or consume these new Cloud Native frameworks. How does Redapt go about pulling these systems together? Topic 4 - We talked yesterday about your team. How do you keep the talent levels up to date on your team? Topic 5 - Redapt is well-known in the cloud circles. What best practices can you take from your learnings and apply them to all these Enterprise and Mid-Market companies that want to do all the cool stuff we hear about here at DockerCon?

Brian talks to Joel Davne (@woggenager, CEO of @cloudnexa) and MJ DiBerardino (CTO @cloudnexa) about the evolution of System Integrators, the evolving AWS ecosystem, Cloud Management -as-a-Service, and what types of applications customers are using with AWS. Interested in the O'Reilly OSCON?  Want a chance at a free pass for OSCON? Send us your interesting journey in Open Source to show@thecloudcast.net by Friday July 10th and we'll pick a winner! Want to register for OSCON now? Use promo code 20CLOUD for 20% off Check out the OSCON Schedule Free eBook from O'Reilly Media for Cloudcast Listeners! Check out an excerpt from the upcoming Docker Cookbook Links from the show: Cloudnexa Website Cloudnexa Automates AWS Provisioning with vNOC Cloudnexa on theCUBE at AWS:reInvent Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your backgrounds and introduce the audience to Cloudnexa.    Topic 2 - As public cloud was becoming more mainstream, a lot of people were saying that systems integrators (and maybe hosting providers) would go away. Talk about why you call Cloudnexa a “born in the cloud” company, and why your business models and technology are different than more traditional VAR/SI/Hosting models.  Topic 3 - Aaron and I are big fans of Simon Wardley, who often talks about AWS having an advantage because they not only learn from their customers, but also from the AWS ecosystem. What are you learning from the AWS marketplace that the mainstream media isn’t discussing?  Topic 4 - Let’s talk about vNOC. I’ve been saying for a while that Management-as-a-Service is hugely important, because too many companies can’t figure out how to operate a cloud - and most really shouldn’t be (costly, slow learning curve, wrong skills).  Topic 5 - Whenever I read about Cloudnexa or hear you speak, the words “customer value” constantly come out. That goes from the service you offer to pricing models to migrations. Talk about how you think about that in this on-demand world.  Topic 6 - The AWS ecosystem is very powerful and diverse - we’ve had many of the companies on the show. You do some unique things in how you partner with other AWS ecosystem companies. Give us some input about what that means from both a technical perspective and business perspective.

Aaron and Brian talk to Sarah Novotny (@sarahnovotny) about her involvement in multiple open source communities, how L4-L7 services interact with containers, how NGINX interacts with multiple aspects of the Docker ecosystem and architectural patterns she is seeing with container deployments. Interested in the O'Reilly OSCON?  Want a chance at a free pass for OSCON? Send us your interesting journey in Open Source to show@thecloudcast.net by Friday July 10th and we'll pick a winner! Want to register for OSCON now? Use promo code 20CLOUD for 20% off Check out the OSCON Schedule Free eBook from O'Reilly Media for Cloudcast Listeners! Check out an excerpt from the upcoming Docker Cookbook Links from the show: NGINX Community NGINX Plus Thanks to the Docker folks for having us! - DockerCon 2015 on YouTube Topic 1 - You are really well-connected and embedded in open source communities. Give us a little background on not only what you do at NGINX, but also OSCON and some other other communities you engage with.  Topic 2 - Your talk this week is about “Interconnecting Your Containers at Scale”, and the abstract includes the word “stevedore”. I had to look it up, and it means “the person that loads and unloads cargo on a dock” (appropriate metaphor for DockerCon). Be honest, did you know that word before this talk?  Topic 3 - NGINX makes a great load-balancer / proxy. It not only has to deal with dynamic scale and policies associated with apps, but it also maintains some amount of state. Let's dig into what that means with the ephemeral nature of containers.  Topic 4 - We had breakfast the other day and you were telling me that many NGINX conversations are often less about the specific features/functionality and instead are more application-architecture. Give us some examples of what that means for Cloud Native applications, or uniqueness for containers?  Topic 5 - Where are you seeing the important points of integration for NGINX? Is it at the container level, or higher-level services (eg. Swarm/Kubernetes/Mesos), or do you see more customized integrations with policy services or other application services?

Aaron and Brian talk to John Willis (@botchagulpe; VP of Customer Enablement @Docker) and Madhu Venugopal (@MadhuVenugopal, Sr.Director Networking @Docker) about the evolution from Socketplane to Docker Networking, the new plugin architecture in v1.7, who is the new Networking admin/ops and how to learn the container networking model. Interested in the O'Reilly OSCON?  Want a chance at a free pass for OSCON? Send us your interesting journey in Open Source to show@thecloudcast.net by Friday July 10th and we'll pick a winner! Want to register for OSCON now? Use promo code 20CLOUD for 20% off Check out the OSCON Schedule Free eBook from O'Reilly Media for Cloudcast Listeners! Check out an excerpt from the upcoming Docker Cookbook Links from the show: Docker Tutorials (video) DevOps Cafe (podcast) Docker Networking (updates in v1.7) Thanks for the Docker folks for having us! - DockerCon 2015 on YouTube Topic 1 - We spoke with you just a few months ago, when you were working with Socketplane. What happened to those guys? Topic 2 - Docker Networking has evolved into this concept/library called “libnetwork”. Help us understand the basic concepts of networking for Docker containers.  Topic 3 - We sat through the Docker Networking tutorial yesterday. As old-timey networking guys, a lot of the terminology was very different - Sandbox, Endpoint, Network, Namespaces. What’s a good learning resource to help us connect the dots between the old and the new? Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the new plugin architecture for Docker. This extends to many area, including Networking and Storage. What does this mean for a networking partner that can to plugin to Docker? Topic 5 - Can you talk about the interactions between Docker Networking and of the Service Discovery frameworks (eg. etcd, Swarm, Consul, etc.)? Topic 6 - We’ve heard that the container framework is essentially - Developers own inside the containers; Ops own outside the containers. Does that still hold true for how Docker Networking works?