

The Cloudcast
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The Cloudcast (@cloudcastpod) is the industry's #1 Cloud Computing podcast, and the place where Cloud meets AI. Co-hosts Aaron Delp (@aarondelp) & Brian Gracely (@bgracely) speak with technology and business leaders that are shaping the future of business. Topics will include Cloud Computing | AI | AGI | ChatGPT | Open Source | AWS | Azure | GCP | Platform Engineering | DevOps | Big Data | ML | Security | Kubernetes | AppDev | SaaS | PaaS .
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Oct 9, 2019 • 34min
Building a Cloud Practice in Azure
SHOW: 418DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Joseph Landes, (@josephlandes, Chief Revenue Officer @GetNerdio) about the unique characteristics of the Azure Cloud, how MSPs are able to differentiate or partner in the market with public clouds, and how Nerdio helps bring together popular services in simple ways. SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Datadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirtPricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision Guide[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:AWS faces Elasticsearch lawsuit for trademark infringement Google decides not to donate Istio or Knative to the CNCFSHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Nerdio HomepageSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we talk about Nerdio, tell us about your background prior to joining the company, and about your focus today. Topic 2 - We spend quite a bit of time on this show talking about the technology offerings of Azure (and other clouds). Give us a sense of what the partner ecosystem of companies building enabling services on Azure looks like today. Topic 3 - Lets talk about how Nerdio interacts between Azure services and Managed Service Providers (MSPs). Help us understand the interaction between that ecosystem. Topic 4 - Traditionally, MSPs had the advantage of being regionally close to customers, and having some ability to differentiate based on vertical markets. How has their world evolved over time, what are their biggest struggles today, and how does Nerdio help them be more successful?Topic 5 - We often look at Azure holistically, through the broad lens of 100s of services. Is it better to look at them in groups of services, targeting a specific market segment or market vertical? FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Oct 2, 2019 • 38min
Developer Tools for Kubernetes
SHOW: 417DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Ellen Korbes (@ellenkorbes, Developer Relations at @garden_io) about the emerging sets of tools and frameworks to make it easier for application developers to interact with Kubernetes. SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:PricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision GuideDatadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:Cloudflare - Workers Sites: Extending the Workers platform with Serverless building blocks WeWork pulls IPO, will restructure under new CEOsDocker, once worth over $1 billion, tells employees it's trying to raise cash amid 'significant challenges'SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Garden HomepageEllen’s HomepageThe State of Kubernetes Development ToolingSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell a little bit about your background, and some of the things that you do in your day-to-day of Developer Relations with Garden.Topic 2 - Kubernetes is a weird system because it involves containers and schedulers, neither of which developers really want to deal with. So why has Kubernetes become so popular, if it’s potentially not that friendly for developers?Topic 3 - There has been a lot of activity in open source communities to create ways to make it easier for developers to work with Kubernetes. Some of those have been “PaaS” offerings (s2i, buildpacks, etc.), and some have been new tooling (e.g. Helm, Draft, Skaffold, Forge, Telepresence, Garden, and Tilt). Can you tell us about some of the new tooling - how do they map to developer needs? Debugging - Squash, KubeFwd, Stern“Connect” - KubeFwd, Telepresence, KsyncDevelopment Orchestrators - Garden, Skaffold, TiltTopic 4 - In going through the different tools, what have you found are the ones that make the most immediate impact for developers? Topic 5 - As Kubernetes get more popular and widely used, do you think it’s important for developers to have to learn about Kubernetes? Or do you think that the external tooling will abstract it enough for them to be productive without that knowledge?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast<

Sep 25, 2019 • 32min
Dashboards, Metrics and Observability
SHOW: 416DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Björn Rabenstein (Engineer at @Grafana) about the intersection of Dashboards, Metrics, Monitoring and Observability.SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Digital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital OceanPricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision Guide[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:Congress begins to investigate anti-trust behavior of Amazon and AWSMicrosoft “Project Saturn” to re-architect AzureStack based on containersGitHub/Microsoft acquires Semmle (code analysis) SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Grafana Labs HomepageBjörn’s talk at VelocityConf - “What remains of dashboards and metrics without the hype and anti-patterns”Björn’s talk at SRECon - “SRE in the Third Age”Björn’s GitHub and LinkedInBook: “Seeking SRE”SHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell about your background prior to joining Grafana Labs. (worked with Julius Volz at Soundcloud, guest on The Cloudcast on Eps.263 and Eps.319). Topic 2 - I saw a tweet the other day that said, “CIO directive to cut contracts because they have 37 monitoring tools and still the reliability is poor...". Your talk at VelocityConf is about the hype around observability and monitoring. What is the state of Ops visibility? Topic 3 - Let’s start by talking about good hygiene and good practices. What types of things should Ops teams, SREs and even Developers always been doing to have good visibility of their environments?Topic 4 - What are the big mistakes that companies make, or what anti-patterns are becoming more pervasive? Topic 5 - As a builder of tools, and an operator of tools, what are some of the things you wish more Dev knew, but maybe don’t know what to ask?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Sep 18, 2019 • 32min
Chaos Engineering and Team Health
SHOW: 415DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Paul Osman (@paulosman, SRE Engineering Manager @UnderArmour) about aligning business value to Chaos Engineering, measuring its impact, and changing team culture to embrace the chaos.SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:PricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision GuideDigital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital Ocean[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:Kong announces "Kuma" Service Mesh"Maesh" - by Containous - simpler Service Mesh SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Paul’s Books (Microservices with JavaScript, Microservices Development)[video] Embracing Chaos - DevOps Day Austin[Velocity] Managing Chaos: Chaos Engineering and Team HealthUnder Armour Homepage“Chaos Engineering” on previous episodes of The CloudcastSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we get into Chaos Engineering, let’s talk a little bit about your background and some of the things you did prior to joining Under Armour. Topic 2 - We’ve talked about Chaos Engineering a few times on the show before. At a company level, what are some of the things (Connected Health) where it makes sense for Under Armour to be investing in Chaos Engineering and developing expertise around this discipline?Topic 3 - Walk us through how a team at Under Armour thinks about Chaos Engineering, from the business need to think about scheduling it (or not scheduling it), measuring it, and then communicating the results back within your team and to management.Topic 4 - I think people think that Chaos is a periodic event, like a DR test, but in reality, it needs to be somewhat of an on-going activity. How do you connect the dots between this on-going Chaos and actual problems in your systems - and how/when to measure problems (or what to measure)?Topic 5 - What is the most difficult part about getting the team culture to understand that Chaos is an important part of day-to-day activities and dealing with “failure” being part of the system?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Sep 11, 2019 • 31min
Knative Serverless
SHOW: 414DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Sebastien Goasguen (@sebgoa, CTO/Co-Founder at @TriggerMesh) about the evolution of the Knative project.SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Digital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital OceanPricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision Guide[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:HashiCorp collaborates with Microsoft to deliver service mesh ‘as a service’ on Microsoft AzureHashiCorp launches key multi-cloud provisioning capabilities in Terraform Cloud for individuals, teams, and enterprisesMicrosoft acquires Movere for Cloud migrations - Stripe launches “Stripe Capital” SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Triggermesh HomepageSebastian’s Knative Serverless talk at VelocityConfSebastian on previous episodes of The Cloudcast (here, here)[Tutorial] Cloud-Agnostic Serverless (from KubeCon 2019)SHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show. Almost a year ago, you launched TriggerMesh with Mark Hinkle. How is the business doing? Topic 2 - A couple of years ago, you helped create a technology called Kubeless, to do Serverless/FaaS on Kubernetes. And then Knative came along. For people that aren’t familiar with Knative, can you give us a Tl;DR on what it is and how it has evolved as a standard for Kubernetes?Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the different elements of Knative and how each one of them is evolving - Build, Serving and Eventing. Building is now "Project Tekton"Topic 4 - Can we talk about the differences between “Serverless” and “Functions-as-a-Service”, especially in the context of different frameworks, and event sources?Topic 5 - Triggermesh has been very early in delivering Serverless or Functions-as-a-Service via Knative. What are some of the lessons you’ve learned (use-cases, customer preferences, area of education) over the last year?Topic 6 - Do you have any insight into some of the things that might be coming next in Knative? FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Sep 4, 2019 • 35min
Everything is a Little Bit Broken
SHOW: 413DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Heidi Waterhouse, (@wiredferret, Developer Advocate @LaunchDarkly) about the challenges of balancing stability and agility, from a technology perspective and a cultural perspective. SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:PricingWire: Monetization & Pricing Strategy for Software & Technology InnovatorsPricingWire - Pricing Metric Decision GuideDigital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital Ocean[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:Donate to the Red Cross for victims of Hurricane DorianSHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Heidi Waterhouse (homepage)Heidi’s upcoming keynote at Velocity (Berlin)LaunchDarkly HomepageSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’re going to talk about broken systems today, but before we get into that, let’s talk about your background, and what types of things you work on at LaunchDarkly.Topic 2 - As we start seeing companies adopt a lot of these new technologies and methods (Agile, DevOps, Microservices, Distributed Systems, Cloud-Native Apps, Continuous Integration, etc.) we’re seeing them go through this interesting transformation of having to think differently about how things should work and how they might break. This is an area that you talk about quite a bit. Topic 3 - There is a 5 9s mentality and there is a release daily intro production mentality that sort of seem at odds with each other. How do we start figuring out how to manage that big space in between those two world views? Or can they be the same? Topic 4 - By adding in error budgets, layered access, and other accommodations for failure and for designing our systems for function over form or purity - we learn how to add resiliency to their system by learning to trust but mitigate their reliance on the perfect performance of their underlying tools.Topic 5 - You get to talk to a lot of developers and architects. What are some of the best ways that you’ve seen them not only grasp these concepts but communicate them up to their management chains so they educate them about the terminology and concepts?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Aug 28, 2019 • 40min
2019 Mid-Year Industry Update
SHOW: 412DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, Co-Host of Software Defined Talk podcast) about the tech/cloud trends that have shaped the first half of 2019.SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Digital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital OceanDatadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:VMware announces Project Pacific - unified vSphere and KubernetesVMware announced "Tanzu" multi-cloud Kubernetes management framework SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Software Defined Talk PodcastSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. I’ve been listening to your show, Software Defined Talk, for quite a while. Tell us about your show, your co-hosts and the types of things you discuss on the show?Topic 2 - What are some of the biggest trends you’ve seen (or been discussing) so far in 2019? Anything really surprise you?Big IPOs in 2019 - AirBnB, Uber, Lyft, Pinterest, WeWork, Zoom, etc. - the GigEconomyThe rise of Kubernetes, the decline of Cloud FoundryPivotal getting acquired -- Mesosphere now D2IQ going KubernetesDocker gets a new CEOOSS licensing warsVMware seems to be acquiring a new company every weekVMware + Heptio + Pivotal + Bitnami= ?VMware now has a managed offering in AWS, Azure, IBM Cloud, GCP, AlibabaTopic 3 - AWS has continued to be the leading public cloud for a decade now. Do you see anything slowing AWS down?Topic 4 - There were lots of articles earlier in the year about big public cloud contracts between web companies and the public cloud (hundreds of millions in cloud spending). Many of those companies are now struggling as they have gone IPO. If they struggle to make revenue (and subsequently their cloud payments), do you see this having any effect on sentiment about public cloud? Topic 5 - There is starting to be some noise in the news and the markets about a potential economic slowdown. How much do you think about what that might mean to the tech industry, and subsequently buyers and users of tech? Sometimes in slower times, we see the creativity of new tech emerge (2001 - mass websites; 2007/8 - AWS and iPhone, 2019/2020 - ??)FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Aug 21, 2019 • 39min
Blockchain beyond the Database
SHOW: 411DESCRIPTION: Brian talks with Brian Platz (@bplatz, CEO/Co-Founder at @Flureee) about blockchain use-cases outside of cryptocurrencies, immutable data, graph databases, and building APIs on data. SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Datadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirtDigital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital Ocean[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:Microsoft acquires JClarityAWS forbids partners from mentioning multi-cloudDoes the VMware buying Pivotal announcement happen this week or during VMworld?SHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Fluree Homepage - Business Application PlatformBrian Platz on Hackernoon [podcast]SHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we jump into Fluree and the breadth of technologies that power the stack, let’s talk about your background and what drove you to create Fluree. Topic 2 - Let’s start with the problems - why does the industry need a new data management stack? What types of use-cases or data-management problems does the Fluree stack address?Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the Fluree stack, because it brings together several technologies (e.g. Blockchain, GraphQL, etc.) that have gotten a lot of hype, but people aren’t always sure how they should be used. Topic 4 - When we step back and look at the Fluree stack, we see a focus around distributed architectures, immutability, graph data richness. Much of this sounds like it aligns to aspects of what is known as the Semantic Web. Are there connections there?Topic 5 - Let’s talk about your philosophy about API management and exposing data at the data-layer instead of the app-layer. What are the pros and cons of this sort of trade-off, and what are some of the things either data or app teams need to consider with this approach?FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Aug 14, 2019 • 32min
Etsy's Big Data Cloud Migration
SHOW: 410DESCRIPTION: Aaron and Brian talk with Kevin McHale (Senior Staff Engineer at Etsy) about the migration of their Big Data / Data Science platform from on-premises to Google Cloud, the business drivers for the migration, and the lessons the team has learned throughout the multi-year process.SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Digital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital OceanDatadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt[FREE] Try an IT Pro ChallengeGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK:GitHub Actions now includes CI/CDSHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Etsy HomepageEtsy’s Engineering Blog (“Code as Craft”)Migrating Etsy to Google CloudSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Before we dive into your work at Etsy, tell us a little bit about your background prior to Etsy - you’re pretty good at math. Topic 2 - You’ve been working on two very interesting projects at Etsy - both building/evolving the data platform, and helping to manage the migration to Google Cloud Platform (GCP). Let’s start by talking about the Etsy data platform.Topic 3 - What have been some of the business drivers that are pushing the data platform to collect more information, to become more cloud-native, and to better enable data pipelines? Topic 4 - At some point in 2017-18, Etsy decided to migrate some of the platforms to Google Cloud. Tell us about that decision-process, and how the migration has been going. What have been some of the lessons learned? Topic 5 - How does working with Google Cloud (or just being in the public cloud) help accelerate the work that you’re doing on evolving the Etsy data platform? FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast

Aug 7, 2019 • 39min
New Challenges for IT Professionals
SHOW: 409DESCRIPTION: Corey Hynes, (@CoreyJHynes, CEO Learn on Demand Systems, @LoDSystems) talks about the need for hands-on ways to learn new skills, train IT professionals, and how innovative companies and individuals are adapting to the new culture of tech learning challenges. SHOW SPONSOR LINKS:Datadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirtDigital Ocean HomepageGet Started Now and Get a free $50 Credit on Digital OceanGet 20% off VelocityConf passes using discount code CLOUDSHOW INTERVIEW LINKS:Learn on Demand Systems Homepage IT Pro ChallengesIT Pro Challenges – Case Study Try Labs FreeSHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’re obviously passionate about helping people learn with this podcast, but why don’t you tell us about your background and what makes you passionate about helping people learn at Learn on Demand Systems. Topic 2 - While we spent a lot of time covering the evolution of cloud technologies, the way that people learn today has evolved enormously as well. Help us understand the breadth of ways that Learn on Demand helps people learn - from Labs to Challenges to other forms? Topic 3 - One product that you recently started offering is called “IT Pro Challenges”. We’ve heard you say in other forums that you’re a big believer in hands-on learning. How does IT Pro Challenges help make sure that people get the actual skills they are learning?Topic 4 - A big part of learning is motivation - finding the time to learn, finding the motivation to try something new. What are some of the things that Learn on Demand Systems does to help motivate people to engage in the various types of learning systems you offer?Topic 5 - What is your message to people (individuals, managers, etc.) watching all these new technologies emerging and trying to figure out how to either pick the right learning/technology path for themselves, or generally putting a plan in place to improve themselves? FEEDBACK?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet


