
The KC Underground Podcast
The KC Underground Podcast is a weekly podcast hosted by different leaders of the KC Underground. The primary focus is intended to offer greater language, tools and equipping around disciple-making principles for missionaries and microchurch leaders.
Latest episodes

Mar 7, 2023 • 49min
Jill and Bill Randall: Tapping into the Supernatural
Cory and Brian interview Jill and Bill Randall. Jill and Bill have been church planters and now lead the Gospel Movements Team for Novo, which is a band of creative missionaries sent to multiply movements of the gospel and mobilize the church for mission around the world. In 30-plus years of ministry, Jill and Bill have trained countless teams and leaders in normalizing the supernatural within disciple-making. Most important of those teams is their own family. We get to hear their stories of how joining Jesus through prayer and healings has shaped their kids and grandkids.
"Miracles serve as signs that make people wonder."

Feb 28, 2023 • 49min
Doug Balzer and Sarah Hunter: Tapping into the Supernatural
Cory and Brian interview Sarah Hunter and Doug Balzer who work for the Western District of the Canadian Christian and Missionary Alliance. Both Sarah and Doug naturally incorporate the supernatural into their everyday disciple-making. We want to hear how and why this has been an important part of their work. You can learn more by reading Doug's works found at dougbalzer.com

Feb 21, 2023 • 27min
Myth-Busting Divine Healing: 10 Shifts with Chris Caputo
Cory and Brian interview Chris Caputo and discuss Doug Balzer's article, "Myth-Busting Divine Healing - 10 Shifts." We work through the ten myths with a bit of commentary and our thoughts. Next week we will interview Doug Balzer and Sarah Hunter of the Western District of the Canadian C&MA about their lean toward the supernatural in disciple-making.
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Feb 14, 2023 • 40min
Tap Into the Supernatural: Chris Caputo
Cory and Brian interview Chris Caputo on our next nugget in disciple-making: Tap into the supernatural. All through the New Testament, we see the supernatural accompanying the movement of the Gospel. We also see it fully in the writings of the early church fathers and mothers up until the time of Constantine. We also see this now in global disciple-making movements. The supernatural, signs and wonders, are not just for another time and place. They are for us here and now.
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Feb 7, 2023 • 46min
Spotlight: Jason Gardiner
In this episode, Cory and Brian interview Jason Gardiner, a local disciple-making leader with the KC Underground. Jason has an extensive background in ministry from campus ministries reaching hundreds of students, to planting churches that became megachurches, to global stadium crusades. Now, he has intentionally stepped away from "professional ministry" to be a car salesman and an ordinary disciple-maker where he's consistently leading people in disciple-making relationships and reproducing leaders. Jason shares a few stories that are currently emerging in his context.
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Jan 31, 2023 • 49min
John Schwartz: Hearing and Obeying
In this episode, Cory and Brian interview John Schwartz, the director of Ichthus, a ministry engaging students at Kansas State University. John walks through the Biblical concept of obedience and the relationship between hearing and obeying.

Jan 24, 2023 • 38min
Cultures of Obedience
In this episode, Cory and Brian focus on another nugget in disciple-making we call "A Culture of Obedience." Once again, we will explore the what, why, and how of fostering a culture of obedience that leads to transformation, the presence of God, and a multiplication of leaders.
"Obedience is about the foundation of everything we talk about."
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Jan 17, 2023 • 33min
Rob Wegner: Celebrate the Little Things
In this episode, Cory and Brian interview Rob Wegner, one of the directors in the KC Underground. Rob is one of the best "celebrators" we know. We will explore how Rob has cultivated a life of celebration, what has shaped that and why he continues to lead with that posture.
"Gratitude is an act of repentance...It reminds us, 'I can't do this on my own.'"
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Jan 10, 2023 • 30min
Celebrate the Little Things
In this episode, Cory and Brian kick off a new series for 2023 where we examine "nuggets in disciple-making." The purpose of this series is to offer simple tools, frameworks, or disciplines to everyday people who are committed to disciple-making. We want to step outside of the theoretical and deeply into the practical.
"Celebration of the little things helps us fight comparison, prevent burnout, increase our worship."
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Jan 3, 2023 • 28min
Michael "Sully" Sullivan - Psalm 8
We're kicking off a new year and a new prayer and podcast series for 2023. Every great move of God begins with cultivating extraordinary prayer and fasting. Tuesdays are a day of prayer and fasting for the KC Underground. The first Tuesday of each month in 2023 will feature a Psalm that will help our community to pray corporately. We hope you'll head over to the prayer page at KC Underground and download the guide. Today we will interview the author of these prayer guides, Mike "Sully" Sullivan, pastor of Emmaus City Church in Worcester, MA.
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