
Get Creative with Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Jan 31, 2025 • 31min
Vetting Borrowers and Building Partnerships in Real Estate
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Jordan Whittenburg, sits down with Jamie Stone, a real estate investor based in Portland, Oregon, to discuss his journey into private money lending and the valuable lessons he's learned along the way. Jamie shares his experiences within the Gator Tribe and Subto communities, highlighting the importance of vetting borrowers, building partnerships, and diversifying your investment strategies.
Highlights:
"If you're tired of sitting on the sidelines, it's time to secure your first deal. Join our thriving community of winners who take action and make their mark in the real estate industry."
"I think most, I would guarantee, most people, their investments would probably be the fund that's kind of targeted towards their age of retirement."
"If you can't get someone to go there, what you can do is get the borrower to go out on the street and show the houses on the street, to show the mailbox, and then show them walking in from the mailbox as proof."
"You can't do everything, and it's better to be focused, is what I'm learning."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:53 - Jamie Stone's Background and Transition to Real Estate
03:49 - The Appeal of Private Money Lending
07:12 - Successful Deal in Jackson, Georgia
11:04 - Navigating Challenges and Lessons Learned
15:57 - Importance of Vetting Borrowers
20:34 - Strategies for Vetting Borrowers
23:54 - Leveraging the Gator and Subto Communities
27:55 - Future Focus and Partnering Opportunities
30:04 - Conclusion
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Jan 30, 2025 • 31min
Leveraging Subject-To Strategies: How Brandon Miller Turned a $230K Profit
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, we're joined by Brandon Miller, a seasoned real estate investor from Peoria, Arizona, who specializes in wholesale real estate and subject-to strategies. Brandon shares his inspiring journey, from his first fix-and-flip in 2015 to his recent $230,000 profit on a subject-to deal. He also discusses how he navigated a low-equity on-market deal, leveraging creative financing to help the seller and find a perfect fit for the property.
Highlights:
"I love getting things under contract subject to creative financing."
"The solution, that's what I bring. Hey, you want to move out, you want to release responsibility for your loan and the property? I'm willing to take that on."
"I wanted to make money. I always want to make money. And I charged them $4,000 for my whole selfie."
"Get off the fence. You know, get going. Get the education. Plug yourself in."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - Brandon's Real Estate Journey
04:02 - Finding Pace and the Subject-To Strategy
07:03 - Explaining a Low-Equity On-Market Deal
10:44 - Negotiating with the Agent
14:37 - Securing the Seller with a Performance Deed
17:22 - Structuring the Deal to Benefit All Parties
20:00 - Finding the End Buyer and Generating Additional Income
23:46 - Overcoming Challenges in the Real Estate Business
26:40 - The Importance of Consistent Practice and Preparation
30:00 - Advice for Aspiring Real Estate Investors
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Jan 29, 2025 • 35min
Pace's Playbook: Structuring a Win-Win Business Takeover
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we follow along as Pace, an experienced real estate and business investor, steps in to help Ashley Delaney restructure a cash deal for a pet boarding business in Flagstaff. Pace demonstrates his expertise in creative financing, guiding the seller and Ashley through a more favorable owner-financing arrangement that benefits all parties involved.
Highlights:
"Action takers get rewarded in this video."
"I don't ever underwrite before I make a call. How can a spreadsheet tell you what's going on with the seller?"
"If you're not nervous, you're not doing it right."
"I want to make it a good deal for everybody, because then everybody wins and it's sustainable."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Dismantling a Cash Deal
01:13 - Seeking Help from the Subto Community
03:24 - Pace's Approach: Gathering Information
07:26 - Understanding the Seller's Situation
11:50 - Pace's Role and Financing Expertise
15:43 - Restructuring the Deal: Owner Financing
19:59 - Retaining Key Employees and Consulting
23:34 - Protecting the Seller and Structuring Payments
27:14 - Percentage-Based Profit Sharing
32:38 - Conclusion
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Jan 28, 2025 • 23min
Bridging the Gap: Helping Newcomers Succeed in Creative Finance
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Your host, Ingryd Hernandez, is joined by Mike Jackson, a seasoned real estate investor and member of the Gator and Subto communities. In this episode, they dive into a creative real estate deal that involved multiple community members, showcasing the power of collaboration and inclusive strategies in the industry.
Highlights:
"If they have an entrepreneurial spirit, and an entrepreneurial spirit tends to be one that sides on action taken, I would say yes [to pursuing alternative paths over traditional college]."
"The beauty of this transaction was that we were able to get into it for a very, very low entry fee compared to what the purchase price was."
"We were able to help so many people do it, and that's what we really love doing."
"If you've never done a creative deal, if you've never done a real estate deal, maybe outside of your own home, to do the first one, maybe five, maybe even 10, with somebody who's experienced doing it."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
03:27 - Discussing the value of entrepreneurial paths VS traditional education
06:12 - The freedom and flexibility of being an investor
08:41 - Introducing the creative real estate deal
09:40 - Leveraging the "baby elephants" in the Subto community
10:43 - Details of the Menifee, California property acquisition
11:49 - Wholesaling the property to a Subto member
14:54 - Breakdown of the deal's financials
17:31 - Achieving a record assignment fee for a creative Subto wholesale
20:00 - Mike's approach to JV partnerships and helping newcomers in the industry
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Jan 27, 2025 • 23min
From $0 to $50K a Month: Darina Aleksa’s Real Estate Secrets
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today, our host Ingryd Hernandez is joined by special guest Darina Aleksa, a real estate expert and leader in creative finance. Darina shares her journey of moving to the U.S., building a career in real estate, and helping people solve difficult housing problems. You’ll hear how she’s helped over 100 deals come together, supported seniors transitioning to assisted living, and built strong communities for real estate collaboration. Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with practical tips.
Highlights:
"Creative finance gave me two homes, one in Minnesota and one in Tampa!"
"Some of our students earn $50,000 a month doing transaction coordination."
"This deal wasn’t just about money; it was about helping someone in need."
"You don’t need to know everything, just connect with the right people."
Timestamps:
00:00 Starting the Journey in Creative Finance
01:28 From Ukraine to Real Estate Success
02:37 Joining Communities That Change Lives
03:56 A Unique Real Estate Deal in Minnesota
06:35 Supporting Seniors Through Real Estate Solutions
09:54 The Challenges Seniors Face When Selling Homes
12:25 Resolving Misunderstandings After Closing
15:08 Why Community Collaboration Matters
17:16 100 Deals in Two Years: Lessons Learned
21:28 How to Connect with Darina Aleksa
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Jan 26, 2025 • 35min
Transforming a $4M Cash Deal into Creative Finance
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! Today we’re joined by Ashley Delaney, a dynamic entrepreneur in the Subto community. In this episode, we dive into her journey of transforming a $4 million pet business acquisition in Flagstaff into a creative finance deal. Guided by Pace Morby, we’ll explore the intricacies of structuring deals, overcoming seller objections, and tapping into the power of community support. If you’re curious about how creative financing can open doors to new opportunities, this episode is for you!
Highlights:
"Action takers get rewarded, and Ashley is a prime example."
"Sometimes, knowing less helps you build authentic connections during negotiations."
"Creative financing is about making deals work for everyone involved."
"Every challenge in a transaction is an opportunity for growth."
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to the Episode and Ashley’s Deal
01:00 Identifying Pain Points and Negotiation Needs
03:12 Leveraging Community Expertise
05:34 Setting Up for Success: The Family Night Call
07:12 Challenges with SBA Loans
14:38 Creative Finance Solutions Breakdown
21:18 Retention Strategies for Key Employees
23:26 Balancing Protection and Flexibility
29:01 The Power of Taking Action
31:35 Future Episodes
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Jan 25, 2025 • 44min
Buying a Business vs. Investing in Real Estate: Which is Right for You?
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, Pace Morby and Cody Barton engage in a lively debate on the merits of investing in real estate versus buying a business. They share their personal experiences, insights, and advice to help listeners determine the best path forward for their financial goals and entrepreneurial aspirations.
Highlights:
"If I could go back six years ago, I would have said 10 single family homes to 25 single family homes. Done?"
"If you're gonna do real estate that way, where you're deploying very little into the deal, you wait for it for a couple of years, and you make 120 grand. You roll it into something else. I'm all about that."
"If you're gonna go into business, it's okay to buy a laundromat or car wash, as you're one of your first businesses, only just to own it for a year or two to learn."
"If you're lazy, you don't want to learn how to be a leader. You want to learn how to put an organization together, and you don't want to learn how to dominate the world, and you want to state your nine to five job and just have a peaceful retirement. I would argue that just buying real estate is the way to go."
Timestamps:
00:00 - The Ultimate Debate: Real Estate or Businesses?
05:47 - The Pros and Cons of Real Estate Investing
10:00 - The Challenges of Single-Family Rentals
14:04 - Investing in Multifamily and Syndications
16:53 - The Benefits of Buying a Franchise
19:40 - The Importance of Systems and Processes in Businesses
24:00 - Identifying and Addressing Issues in Your Business
28:37 - The Brrr Strategy vs. Buying a Business
34:22 - Creative Financing in Real Estate
39:19 - The Advantages of Real Estate Over Businesses
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Jan 24, 2025 • 34min
Transforming a 4-Bed into a 7-Bed Co-Living Powerhouse
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with Heather Irving and Jose Sanguino, two industry leaders in the world of creative finance and co-living. They dive deep into their partnership, sharing insights on how they found and transformed a property into a thriving co-living space, overcoming obstacles, and leveraging their community connections to achieve success.
Highlights:
"I'm what you call a co-living operator, and I absolutely love it."
"The cash flow that you can experience from co-living, it's unbelievable, compared to long-term rent."
"We reached our break-even point, and with these two people moving in now, we start bringing in property."
"Start dating business-wise with people inside the community. Try a few JV deals, and I promise you, you'll find your match."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to the Get Creative Podcast
02:48 - Heather Irving's Background and Introduction
03:45 - Jose Sanguino's Background and Introduction
04:32 - Formation of the Partnership
09:22 - Heather and Jose's First Deal Together
12:06 - Construction and Renovation of the Property
15:34 - Marketing and Management of the Co-Living Space
19:49 - Current Status and Future Plans
23:53 - Reaching Break-Even and Cash Flow Potential
31:50 - Conclusion
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Jan 23, 2025 • 33min
From Foreclosure to Flourishing: Connor Patton's Subto Success Story
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, host Jordan Whittenburg sits down with Connor Patton, a Subto leader since 2020 who has been closing deals and leading the No One Left Behind challenges. Connor shares his real estate journey, from his early days in college wholesaling to his recent success in taking down a foreclosure deal in Missouri using the Subto method. He also discusses his approach to partnering with private money lenders and his efforts to help new real estate investors through his own local community.
Highlights:
"I kind of felt like that was my weak area, where I would get leads and I could still close deals, but I was not anywhere near where I needed to be on the phones."
"It's not really the cash flow that you're going to feel. It's, you know, we're kind of at the point too, where we're, we're starting to buy these for the depreciation, which Pace and a lot of guys talk a lot about."
"I'm happy to be like, Yeah, I own 50% of it, but I didn't bring the money and get to understand what it takes to hold these assets. Manage them, place tenants, manage the repairs and stuff like that."
"I'm just trying to start sharing everything that I'm doing, call recordings and good just to try to help any way I can."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:55 - Connor Patton's Background
03:48 - Connor's Early Real Estate Journey and Mentorship
08:39 - The Missouri Foreclosure Deal
13:27 - Presenting Options to the Seller
18:42 - Partnership with a Private Money Lender
24:57 - Cash Flow and Future Plans for the Property
27:32 - Connor's Role in Helping New Real Estate Investors
30:53 - Connor's Contact Information
31:55 - Closing Remarks
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Jan 22, 2025 • 36min
Debunking the Myths of Co-Living
Welcome to a new episode of Get Creative! In this episode, we dive deep into the world of co-living, exploring the myths and realities of this innovative housing model. Joined by experienced co-living investor Jared, we address the common misconceptions and concerns surrounding co-living, and uncover the potential benefits it can offer to both tenants and investors.
Timestamps:
"It's working class. I do have some construction workers, but I also have a nurse."
"I'm about 80% normally, but I'm at 78 right now. I had to ask a member to leave."
"I've never had a fight. I'm not gonna say they're all getting along, but I've never had a fight."
"If you are trying to get into the Airbnb game, it is a waste of your time."
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Co-Living and Addressing Misconceptions
03:27 - Debunking the Myth of Co-Living Attracting "Undesirable" Tenants
07:38 - Discussing Occupancy Rates and Maintaining High Occupancy
09:31 - Addressing Concerns About Conflicts and Fights Among Co-Living Residents
12:15 - Exploring the Regulatory Environment and Incentives for Co-Living
14:24 - Cleaning and Maintenance Strategies in Co-Living Properties
18:57 - Jared's Criteria for Selecting Suitable Co-Living Properties
21:53 - The Role of Property Management in Co-Living Operations
25:30 - Providing Valuable Housing Solutions and Addressing Affordability Concerns
33:46 - Addressing Negative Perceptions and Neighborhood Impacts of Co-Living
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