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Brian Koppelman and his wife Amy Koppelman saved my life. Many years after he ruined my life. First off: when he wrote the movie "Rounders" I became obsessed with poker. I went to the same club he played at and played for 365 nights, including the night my first daughter was born (I was there for the birth though!) .   I was an addict. But eventually I stopped in order to start another company. I wish I had never stopped because that other company cost me all of my money at the time.   Then he wrote several of my favorite movies after that. I didn't even know it was the same director until the first time I interviewed him here.   Now he is writing and producing my favorite TV show, "Billions" on Showtime. About an aggressive hedge fund billionaire going after an equally aggressive US Attorney played by Paul Giamatti.   Brian has been on the podcast several times but there's always so much more to talk about in terms of creativity and inspiration and how to succeed as an artist / entrepreneur.   Ditto for his wife Amy who has also been on this podcast and written three of my favorite novels. One of which was turned into a movie ("I Smile Back") starring Sarah Silverman.   But here is how they saved my life.   Awhile back I had a personal emergency. Things were going haywire.   Amy called me and said, "What's going on?" I told her.   She had me take a photo of every meal I was eating ("I want to make sure you are eating") and a photo of everyone I was eating with ("I want to make sure you are around people") and had me write to her every day what was going on in my head ("write!")   That was one time.   Another time: I lost millions of dollars in a half hour while I was on the set of "Billions" watching it be filmed.   I was called into an emergency board meeting by phone and found out the company was going to be shut down. It was a disaster.   But 90% of how we feel about a situation is determined by our choice of how we will react. Only 10% is based on the situation itself.   And since I was on the set of my favorite TV show being filmed, I decided to enjoy myself. Brian later said to me, "You lost what!? We couldn't tell at all. You were making jokes, asking questions, and you were the last one to leave."   I used being on the set of "Billions" to change my reaction to an otherwise horrible event. This allowed me to easily change my 90% reaction into a positive one.   So not only is Brian a creative genius, but he's a good friend.   I went up to his offices where they are writing season 2 of "Billions" and I had maybe 1,000 more questions about creativity, writing, the arc of his career, and of course, billions of dollars.   But one thing stands out for me.   Everyone always says, as if it were advice that has come down from heaven to all writers: "Write what you know".   Brian doesn't agree with this. And this is the secret to his success. And the secret to all the great writers in history.   Stephen King didn't know what it was like to be a bullied teenage girl with psychic powers when he wrote "Carrie".   Ernest Hemingway didn't know what it was like to be an old Cuban man who spent his life fishing.   JK Rowling didn't know what it would be like to be a boy attending Hogwarts Wizardry School.   Brian Koppelman told me:   "Don't write what you know, write what fascinates you."    This is the key to all good art.   In this podcast, we also talk about what it feels like to hit a dead-end. To be unsure how to move forward. To be scared that maybe the best was behind us.   How do you move past that. Recreate yourself. Start the work again. Flourish.   I ask. Brian delivers. ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

WHAT I CAN LEARN IN ONE MINUTE THAT WILL CHANGE MY LIFE FOREVER Stephen Dubner (Freakonomics) has a new podcast and it just hit #1 in the iTunes charts. "Tell Me Something I Don't Know" is the name of it and it's about to change my life. He came over to play backgammon and I asked him about it. He told me he became a journalist because it was an easy way to start talking to people. He said, "If I ask people to tell me something I don't know," then I often learn new things and it keeps the conversation going. My mind blew open. I'm tired of freezing up. Feeling too paralyzed to talk. I'm a shy introvert. This will help unfreeze me. For everyone I meet, I will try to learn something I don't know. I'll simply ask them. This will be my new habit. --- I listened to Dubner's first podcast of the new show. I learned something new from one member of the audience. First off, it's a hard podcast to create. Listen to it. There are three panelists. There's a fact-checker. And there's 100 people in the audience. I've never heard of a podcast like that. It's crazy to put that much work into a podcast! To be creative, go beyond what everyone else says is crazy. And to be crazy, go beyond what everyone else says is creative. Creativity is a lose-lose proposition. You're crazy and you're lost in the woods. But if you aren't creative, you're stuck in traffic with everyone else. Someone on the show said something I didn't know: when you sleep, the nerve cells in your brain constrict, allowing spinal fluids to wash right through and clean up the proteins that often attach to nerve cells in the brain to cause Alzheimers. I learned about five new things on that very first episode. I went to sleep that night in anticipation. Spinal fluids washing through my brain, giving my cells a much needed bath. --- If I can ask everyone, "Tell me something I don't know," I'm going to learn from everyone. It adds up. It compounds. It will give me more knowledge and help me be less shy. I hope. "Tell me something I don't know". ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

He died. He was giving a speech, sat down, and the next thing... he was dead. They called an ambulance. They got paramedics. They did that thing. They brought him back to life. But his body didn't like living. He died again. Eight more times they used machines to convince the machine in his body that we call a heart, to come back to life. Please come back to life, the machines said to his heart. And finally his heart decided to stay. After that, things changed. Like they often do when we die at the age of 47. "There are three things," Chip Conley, now the head of hospitality for AirBnB, told me, "a job, a career, and a calling." "I had been building and running hotels for 20 years. It was my calling to be in the hospitality business. I built over 50 hotels. But it was starting to feel like a job." "When I died, I realized I couldn't do it anymore. I had to go back to my calling." Within a few years he had sold his business. He had nothing left to do. "I had faith in my calling, though," Chip said. "Something would happen." And it did. It did. Adam wrote me. He was my Airbnb host. I've been in 4 different Airbnbs that Adam owns over the past three years. So we knew each other. I only live in Airbnbs and I know many of the regular hosts in New York City. "I'm having a special guest in the apartment right downstairs from you," Adam wrote me. "He's the head of all hospitality for Airbnb. Would you like to meet?' Yes, very much so. I had spent 90% of my life in Airbnbs over the prior three years and just about 100% in the prior year. In 2014 I even wrote an article, "10 Ways to Improve Airbnb." Adam made the introduction. Chip Conley, the man who had died a few years earlier and sold his hotel business, responded. "Should I bring a bottle of wine?" he said. He came upstairs and we started to talk. "Brian Chesky, the founder of Airbnb, called me and asked me if I wanted to be the head of hospitality. Airbnb was a tech company, it wasn't used to being a hospitality company." "When I ran 50 hotels, hospitality was my main focus." "For each hotel, I had the hotel managers come up with five adjectives for what that hotel would be." "Maybe the adjectives might be: funky, hip, modern, clean, rock & roll." "Every employee, even the housekeepers, would keep those adjectives in mind in whatever they did. And, if possible, we even made sure the five senses the customers would experience in the hotels would match the five adjectives." "This is a great idea," I said, "You can even apply ideas like this to writing a book. Or even building a career for yourself. What five adjectives do you want your life, or the objects you create, or your relationships, be used to describe it." "Absolutely," Chip said. So he went to Airbnb to start creating an atmosphere of hospitality among the hosts. He had found his way back to his life's calling. I had felt it. Since 2013, Now I live in them. Now they are home. All because Chip died. "How do you find your life's calling?" I asked him. "What did you love doing when you were 6, 8, 10 years old," he said. "Like I had one friend who even at 6 was making mudpies as if they were real pies. Then she became a lawyer but was always unhappy." "So she quit being a lawyer and is now one of the biggest pastry chefs in the world." "For me, I was always pretending to run a restaurant in my house. I always wanted to be in the hospitality business." I thought back to when I was ten years old. I was writing short stories. And when I was 12 I even wrote an article in the newspaper interviewing politicians. You find your interests from back then and see how they age into the current day. "Find the thing you did where you lost all sense of time while you are doing it," Chip told me. "Remember the equation from Victor Frankl's 'Man's Search for Meaning'," he said. "Despair = Suffering - Meaning." "Find the things that bring you meaning.... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

http://ryanholiday.net/dear-dad-dont-vote-donald-trump/ ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

JOKE Last night I wrote down six things I wanted to do today. I kept number six blank. "JOKE" was just a reminder to start this post with a joke from Jon Macks... "If you live in Florida, ya know, God's waiting room..." "If you're Jewish, like me..." Those are just a few lines from my interview with Jon Macks. He was the top writer for "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno. He wrote 100 jokes a day. That's half a million in 20 years. He's written jokes for President Obama, Bill Clinton, John Kerry and monologues for Steve Martin, Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg, Chris Rock... and wrote the book "Monogluge: What Makes America Laugh Before Bed." But before comedy, Jon did political consulting. "I realized I could do one thing 300 nights a year: politics or perform. And I chose politics." He somehow transitioned and reached the heights of a dream career in comedy. I wanted to know his secret. I also wanted to know how to be funny... 1. Association Joke: I asked Jon how to run for Congress. "Anti-Washington, anti-establishment is what's working right now," he said. I'm not running for Congress. But, the night of this interview, I went to an open mic. So I ran some headlines by Jon. And he wrote jokes on the spot. Headline: "Trump Refuses To Say He'll Accept Election Results" Jon: "The Toronto Blue Jays lost yesterday. They're refusing to accept the fact that the Cleveland Indians are going to the world series." This is an association joke. You look at what else is happening. Then marry the two. 2. Rule of 3's: This is Billy Crystals joke: "Donald Trump reminds me a lot of hurricane season. He starts out with a lot of hot air, spins out of control, by the first week of November he's completely gone." The rule of 3's is this: Set up your joke. Start with a fact or an idea. Then expand on the idea by listing three qualities. The third is usually unexpected. That's your punchline. 3. Look for the oddity Jon said, "Most normal people-and I put comics as 'not normal'-most normal people walk into a room and go, 'This looks like a great party.'" But a comic asks questions. "Who shouldn't be here?" "Why are they serving bacon cheeseburgers at a Jewish event?" Go beyond business as usual. Look for the oddity... in contracts, your conversations, your habits. Try to find the light in life's eccentricities. Or the bull... in shit. 4. Find "your kind of people" and bring them together Every day, I practice what I call "emotional health." I spend time with people who lift me up. And I try to lift them up, too. Not with words. But with interests. We hold space for each other. And leave room for the juice in our brain to squeeze out. It's a different kind of lemonade, but it's ours. And we like it. That's all that matters. Seinfeld calls comedians "his type of people." As if they have different brains than everyone else. So I asked Jon, "What is it? What is the comedian?" He said, "A comic will go on stage and either say something we haven't thought of, or something we all thought of in a way that is really unique, funny and brings us all together." 5. Move forward Jon was traveling about 250 nights a year doing campaigns. His third kid was just born. And he had a choice: be a dad or "be someone calling in once a week." Lots of people make this choice. Money is involved. Fulfillment is a factor. The stress of making the "right" versus the "wrong" decision. Jon went with his gut. "I figured I'd take a break from political consulting, and I never went back." He had a 13-week contract with Jay Leno. That turned into a lifetime... Before podcasting and writing, I worked on Wall Street. When everything crashed, I fed people chocolate. I wanted to bring people together. Maybe that's number six. ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I can't tell you the secret to selling half a million books. Or half a million anything... Every day, business changes, the world shifts on its axis and your skin peels off a little bit. New cells are generated and with each blink, your eyes are rehydrated. "I'll admit, if there was some formula, I'd do it again," he said. Without new experiences, your soul rots. And your book or product or whatever you're trying to get rich quick off of smells like garbage. But people will buy garbage. Because we want new experiences. Ask any child. They'll give you an honest answer of why they like coloring or skipping rope. "I don't know... It's fun?" People wonder what they love. Instead of loving to wonder. Chuck Klosterman grew up in a town of 500 people. He became the number one literary critique of pop culture... before the Internet. Now anyone can research anything. And you don't have to own the Encyclopedia Britannica. Or wait for the library to be open. A lot of people I've interviewed say there's a big luck factor to success... "But I don't think that's as true with you," I told Chuck. He doesn't believe in luck. "The biggest factor is chance," he said. "What's the difference between chance and luck?" Luck: "Luck almost implies like a leprechaun is, sort of somebody is making this happen." "In many ways, it seems like certain people are luckier than others," he said. "I think what that really means is that when they were given chances, they elected to pursue them, as opposed to step away from them. And that kind of creates the illusion of luck." Luck is an open door. Chance is the willingness to step through. When I feel stuck, I don't create a new business overnight. I begin with a pen and a waiter's pad. I carve out a new perspective. I write 10 ideas. Whether the ideas are good doesn't matter. Reinvention, freedom and success are the results of movements. Not the "right movements." Just movements. Unattached, meaningless movements that hopefully fill your day and fuel your heart. "Everything I've liked, I liked in totality," Chuck said. "I wanted to almost be inside of it." Focus on nothing. Or everything. Let life reveal itself to you. Then you won't need luck. Because you'll have something much more valuable: perspective. Skill: When he started, Chuck needed motivation to write. Now he's a dad. And he writes every day. "I make myself do it," he said. His first job was with the local newspaper in Fargo. He wrote a 16-page insert called "Rage," meant to address Generation X. "At the time, my hope was that, maybe, if I do a good job as a reporter and I put in the time, I'd be able to publish a book, or maybe two books in my 50s or something." He thought he'd work as a reporter who might have the ability or the luck or the chance... Chance: "There were 23 kids in my graduating class. I remember the teacher would ask questions. And nobody would say anything," Chuck said.But he knew the answers. He thought everyone knew. "I just assumed everyone growing up felt this way-everybody felt very singular and alone. You had this world inside your mind. And there was the world outside of yourself where you just kind of goofed around, talked to people, and made small talk, but in your mind you had your own kind of world." Then Chuck went to college. "I was amazed to find a handful of people who were just like me, who listened to Mötley Crüe but also wanted to talk about it, and didn't just want to say, 'It rocked.'" Connection changes your mental identity from alone to alive. Chuck's second book, "Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs" sold half a million copies-more than his other eight books combined. "The only perspective I have is my own," Chuck said. "There is the conscious experience, then there is the unconscious experience. Some of those merge when I'm writing." Mystery... Chuck's latest book asks a hypothetical question that no one will know the... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"I know you've made tens of millions of dollars in various areas of life," I said. "Tell me how you did it." "Hmm." He scanned his memory for money. And landed in 1969. "I put all my possessions in the back of my Mustang and drove to Washington, D.C. I figured if I got $5,000, I could hitchhike my way through South America... but more importantly, Africa." There are about 220 countries on the planet. Doug Casey has been to 160. "I believe in the Latin phrase, 'Mens sana in corpore sano.'" "Sound mind, sound body..." "It means you actually have to go out and do this crap. You have to do it." "Why?" "Because maybe you'll find out the meaning of life." A) Don't be a plant "Unfortunately, most people are born in one place and then live in or near that place for the rest of their lives acting like plants, but I don't think acting like a plant is a good survival strategy for a human." B) Create your own currency Everybody says the Federal Reserve printed money. And devalued the dollar. Everybody's wrong. I asked Doug, "What do people mean when they say the Federal Reserve printed money? I think there's a common misconception around this." His answer: they buy assets and credit back the banks. They don't physically print money. And they don't create value. Doug goes places, meets people, asks them to do things either with him or for him. He values the people he's met, the money he's made/lost and the lessons he's learned. Honor your experiences. Money isn't the currency of life. Living is the currency of life. C) Where do good ideas come from? They say you need to see/hear something at least seven times to remember it. I don't know who said that. I wish I could say it was Ogilvy. I've talked about idea sex 100 times. Here's 101. Good ideas are like babies. Each one is new to the world. (Unless we're living in "The Matrix"... skip to [23:00] for this part of the interview... Even Elon Musk has thought about the likelihood of "reality" actually being "base reality." The chances are "one in billions," he said.) But for now, human babies come from human sex. Sex = creation. And it's the same for ideas. Take two ideas. Combine them. Now you have a new idea. Repeat. This is idea sex. "I wanted to be a paleontologist," Doug said. "Why? Dinosaurs! Every kid likes dinosaurs... But I took it seriously. So, geology background... Then I got interested in money. Put geology and money together and you've got the mining business-which is actually a better way to lose money than to make money-but the good news about the mining business is that they're the most volatile stocks in the world. And still are..." D) Read science fiction "It's a much better predictor of the future than any of the think tanks." E) Try new things I'm writing a children's book. Doug's hobby is nothing I've ever heard of before. He tried taking over a country. "Oh yeah," he said... as if he forgot. "How did I get started in that? Oh yeah, I know what it was."   Doug has had 50 lives. He's dined with presidents, made millions, gone broke, wrote books, traveled to war zones, scuba-dived, practiced martial arts, he owns his own research company. And more. But the strange part is he seems to string them all along. Instead of switching from experience to experience, he piles them together. It's not clean. It's not organized. It's human. ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

"Terrorists have moms," he said. Jeffrey Schilling was kidnapped in the Philippines and held hostage for 7 and a half months. The terrorists said they were torturing him. But Chris Voss didn't fall for it. Chris is a former FBI hostage negotiator and the author of, "Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It." "Find a way to mention his mother's concern for him," Chris' boss said. "I remember thinking, 'That's the dumbest idea I ever heard. A terrorist is going to care about this guys mother?'" "But my boss had great insight. And I didn't see any downside to it. So in the middle of the negotiation I said, 'Ya know Jeff's mom is really worried about him.'" "What happened next?" I asked. "This murderous, sociopathic terrorist said, 'His mother knows about this? You tell his mother he's OK.'" Months later, Jeffrey came home. Some hostage negotiation tactics won't work in business or with your wife. But these 5 tactics will... 1. Use the "hand-cuff method": Use this line when someone yells at you: "I can't hear you when you're yelling at me." The logic simple. People yell when they want you to listen. But if you eliminate their reward (being heard), then they have to comply. And you'll never get yelled at again.  2. Push past threats: "People who make threats always leave themselves an out," Chris said. But the truth is they need you. If you're not talking, there's no deal. They could lose out on a sale, a new employee, or millions of dollars.   "The point of a negotiation is to find out how much money is on the table," Chris said. "You have to push the other side as far as they'll go... without insulting them."    3. Gain the upper hand 100% of the time:   "You can gain the upper hand by giving respect first," Chris said.   Which a lot of people are afraid to do...   "But that's exactly why you gain the upper hand," Chris said.    4. Become less busy:   Rest is the new hustle.   "Anytime you slow down to do things more deliberately, you save time." Chris calls this, "The delay that saves time."    5. Show fearlessness   Fear can be useful. But not in a negotiation. "Showing fearlessness is a great way to inspire confidence in you from the other side," Chris said.   Forget what you have to lose. And focus on the reward.     I can't afford to lose all my money again. So if you're on this list... don't listen to this interview: A) you're related to me B) you work with me C) you want to sell me something   Everybody else is welcome. The negotiation tactic used against Mark Cuban [49:36] Find out the negotiation tactic I use personally [42:08] How to avoid the most dangerous negotiation [4:58]   ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jewel was broke and homeless, but she still turned down a million dollar check when she was 19 years old. Jewel was broke and millions in debt after selling 30,000,000 albums, and built back from scratch when she was 30. Jewel has switched genres, written music from folk to pop to country to even children's music. She wrote a children's book. I love Jewel. Abused from the ages of 5 to 15. Moved out of the cold barn she was living in at 15 to live on her own. And three years later she was homeless. "I didn't want to be a statistic," she told me she was afraid when she was 15. "I looked around at other girls who were in my circumstances and things went from bad to worse" And yet... she ended up a statistic. She realized this when she was 18, living out of a car, and attempting to stuff a dress down her pants in a store so she could steal it. When I was 18 I feel I was privileged. I had no real worries. I was "suburban lucky". Luck ruined me and made me complacent. I never would have made the good decisions Jewel ended up making. That's why I love her. That's why I'm glad she came on my podcast. I'm sure she's done 100s of interviews to promote her new book, "Never Broken", an excellent book. But I wanted to break her down. I wanted her to laugh. She was so smart and serious. Trust me: I got her to laugh. A) HARD WOOD GROWS SLOWLY Why did a homeless girl who sang for pennies in a cafe turn down a million dollar offer? "Hard wood grows slowly," she said. "I saw that as a kid. The soft trees would break. The hard trees would grow and live forever." She said: I knew I wanted to grow for a long time in this business. I also knew we were still in the grunge era and I was not grunge. If I took a million dollar deal, I read that I would have to pay it back. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to and I would be dropped by the label and that would be the end of my career. In fact, my album didn't do well the first year. But then went on to sell over 10,000,000 copies. They didn't drop me because I was just that girl they paid twelve dollars for. You have to think long-term instead of short-term always. -- She was 19. I do NOT think I would have made that decision. I think I would have made the wrong decisions. How does one take such a long term view at such a young age. I think it was the ten years she had spent developing her skills, singing in bars all over Alaska, preparing for this moment. Confidence is really difficult to develop. I don't know if I have it even now. But I'm going to remember this lesson on the next business decision I have to make. B) REINVENTION IS NON-STOP Jewel has written children's books, gone from folk music to pop to children's to country. She's been a rancher. She's been homeless. I asked her, "You had the benefit of really cultivating your talent from ages 5 to 15. You sang with your dad at gigs every week. "Do you think someone starting from scratch at 50 can do this?" "Absolutely," she said, "Reinvention never ends. It's every day. Pursue what you enjoy and move towards it and there will be opportunities." I look at my own life today. I'm about to finish a children's book. I'm looking into TV. I'm working on a novel. I have other business things. I don't know if any of them will work. But I know if I don't keep trying I will slip back into whatever hole I constantly have to dig myself out of. There are two days to start something new. When you are five years old. And today. C) CREATE ART FOR YOURSELF I said these words: "So when you were talking to Neil Young..." What funny words to say to someone, I thought at the time and told her. Neil Young told her: don't ever write for radio! Meaning: don't write for the masses, write for yourself. I asked her, "isn't there a tension there? Like what if you write for yourself and then nobody likes it? Don't you want to write something that people like?" She said, "We all have... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're either horrible or miserable. Woody Allen has this joke in "Annie Hall." He says, "Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable. That's the two categories. The horrible are terminal cases. You know? And blind people, crippled... I don't know how they get through life... It's amazing to me. And the miserable is everyone else. So you should be thankful that you're miserable. Because that's very lucky... to be miserable." I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. We complain about getting older or not having a passion, etc. "In relatively recent history-we're talking the 1980s and later-we got convinced into believing we all have a capital P 'Passion,'" Cal Newport said. Cal's a tenured professor at Georgetown. And majored in computer science. So did I. Fact: You can't pre-test a fetus to see what its passion will be. Passion is not in your DNA. I wasn't born to podcast. Or write. Or be a father. I was just born... And I have eyes. So I see what other people are doing. I have ears. So I hear who's winning. And then my brain asks, "Why am I here?" "People believe if we look inside ourselves and discover what our passion is, we'll be happy. I studied this question in the book and that's not how it happens," Cal said. "Passion comes later." First you have to "become so good you can't be ignored..." 1. Start with an interest Steve Martin reinvented stand-up. He told jokes without punchlines. And let the tension linger. He didn't start with a passion for comedy. You start with an interest. I never thought, "Interviewing prostitutes at 3 a.m. is my passion." But I got good at it. I was curious. And I'm still asking questions today. 2. Build career capital Cal did a study. He found a database developer who became too good to be ignored. And used that as leverage. "She got into the computer industry with no background. At every stage, she said, 'What would be valuable here?'" Now she spends 4-6 months working in her cubicle job. And the other  4-6 months in Thailand. Acquire career capital. And leverage it. This is how you get autonomy in the workplace. "It's what lets you get a sense of mastery," Cal said. "It's what makes you get a sense of impact, and this is where passion actually comes from." 3. Focus on rare and valuable skills The first food truck was a pretzel stand. It had wheels and food. Now Michelin-star chefs have food trucks and pop-up shops. They didn't learn how to make pretzels. Or follow the trend. They used rare and valuable skills to innovate the market. I built websites in the '90s. That was my first company. But as soon as I heard my eighth-grade sister was learning coding in school, I sold the company. Coding was no longer rare and valuable. And competition was about to explode. Control competition and you'll control the market. 4. Get to the cutting edge of an industry Mastery leads to passion, not the other way around. You weren't "born" to invent the next iPhone. Nobody was. Even the people inventing the next iPhone weren't born to invent the next iPhone. "Innovations don't come at the very start of your journey." You have to get to the cutting edge, learn what's missing, identify room for growth and innovate.   5. Do deep work Deep work is the process of becoming great. "It requires hard, hard focus and pushes your skill to its limit." It's what you do to become the best in your field. And discover holes in your organization. Or in the planet. It's how you create ride-sharing, social networking, Google maps underwater. Cal says how at [16:04]  6. Or don't... I asked Cal, "Do you think most people actually want to be really good at something... Or do most people just want more time off to just do nothing?" I don't set goals. Or evaluate my growth. If I can support the growth of other people, cheer them on, smile and say, "Congratulations on getting up today," then the window gets bigger. Maybe success isn't... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.