
The Financial Independence Show
Cody Berman and Justin Taylor believe in the concept of “Financial Independence For All”. The Financial Independence Show focuses on REAL stories of individuals on their journey to financial independence. Each episode aims to include actionable insights and takeaways for listeners to implement into their own financial situation. The podcast covers topics like building wealth, entrepreneurship, investing, money mindset, small business, frugality, geoarbitrage, side hustles, real estate, productivity, travel, and so much more. Sit back, tune in, and join a community of like-minded people who are changing their lives through financial independence.
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Apr 14, 2020 • 44min
How to Adopt a Frugality Mindset | Gina from The Frugal Convert
Today's episode features Gina from The Frugal Convert.
Gina has a powerful story of being alone and broke at age 19 with a child to take care of.
She didn't let her circumstances define her and took control of her life.
Then over time, things began to slip again and she realized she needed to change at a more conscious level.
Now she's a full-fledged frugal convert and closing in on financial independence.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Gina's wild ride.
Episode Summary
Gina's "Jar of Pickles" Moment
Gina found herself 19, newly married, and pregnant and totally broke.
Her then-husband took her phone, car, credit cards...everything
She was hungry and alone in her home and had nothing to eat but pickles
Then she found herself on the floor crying
Gina then started going through all the bad decisions she'd made in her life that led to this
But then she decided she could take control
She divorced him and life moved on
Now she's married to the man of her dreams
Gina takes steps back again
Things were going well for a while after her wake-up moment
Then Gina got comfortable and started racking up credit card debt
She and her husband were happy and well employed but her habits hadn't changed
Then they found themselves in over $100k in debt
Earlier in life, she had racked up debt
She had done this because her rent was $1150, she was going to college, had a kid, and only earned $1200 per month
Gina would get a loan to consolidate her debt but then keep racking up more with the new limit
Making Habits Stick
Gina realized that she would have to really change her habits to turn her life around
Her first step was to start really tracking her spending
It wasn't cold turkey, she just lowered the frequency of disposable spending
Eating out once a week instead of three times a week, etc
She admits she tried to make a budget before she tracked her spending
That is generally a big mistake and leads to failure
Without a point in time, it is hard to make reasonable projections
She also says that a budget should be a living document
It can't be something you set and never adjust
Gina utilizes an excel spreadsheet and breaks it into four categories
The first is survival - food, utilities, rent
The second is debt
The third is extras - Netflix, eating out, etc
The fourth is fun money - even if you still have some debt to pay off
Redefining Frugality
It's not about deprivation, it's about reprioritization
It is fun and rewarding to be frugal
You become picky about what you spend your money on and only focus it on things you're excited about
She also began to realize that she was actually just buying things because it was a habit
It wasn't that she needed them or even wanted them long term
Now she's much more into decluttering and keeping things simple
Finally, Gina walks us through how this is all possible in Los Angeles
She also shares budgeting with her kids
They don't feel deprived, they are just getting educated and comfortable with money
Leaving A Legacy
She really wants to follow her passions full time and step away from traditional work
Gina also wants to get more into real estate and having extra streams of income
In 2007 they had bought a condo, then the 2009 crash happened
Her husband lost his job because it was tied to the mortgage industry
She was furloughed due to the turndown
So her focus will be on diversifying their income streams
Her real passion is going out and being hands-on with moms in the welfare
She wants to develop programs they can use to take control of their finances
Key Takeaways
When Life Hands you Lemons: Gina had every right to be down on life and never crawl out of her low spots, but she always learned and improved herself.
Behind Every Paycheck is a Passion: Gina acknowledges that her day to day job isn't he...

Apr 7, 2020 • 51min
From FatFIRE to LeanFIRE in a Month | Robert from Stop Ironing Shirts
Today's episode features Robert from Stop Ironing Shirts.
Robert worked his way up the sales career path.
Then in 2019, he retired with over 28x his annual expenses.
Fast forward to today and he saw that shrink to 18x his expenses.
People often always wonder what it would be like if they retired just before a crash.
Now you have the opportunity to see how that looks first hand.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Robert's wild ride.
Episode Summary
Robert's Journey to FI
Robert didn't have much money growing up
He started noticing the people around him who did
Then he tried to reverse engineer how they got there
He contrasts how his grandparents had a structured career path and his parents didn't
His dad did end up in sales which is where Robert first found the career path
Robert Finds His Career
He graduated high school in 2000
Robert thought he'd go into computer programming
That quickly changed when he hated programming
Then he got a department store job celling cell phones
This made him realize sales was for him
Robert goes over how sales have no politics or ambiguity in pay
It also means that you can make as much as you can perform
Robert Experiences His First Crash
Robert talks about his experience with the 2008 crash
He talks about how his 401k was less than his contributions even with company match
Then he talks about how you just have to keep plugging away when it's dropping
Your earnings in a savings account simply can't keep up with inflation
Robert Discovers FI
He talks about the life decisions he made once he discovered the FI movement in 2013
The canceled fancy hotels and tried to do some of their own home renovations
Some of those changes didn't pan out but the overall path was clear for them
They looked and felt like they could retire around 5 years from that moment
In 2015 he had a good job opportunity and it locked him into three more years
The timing worked out pretty well but pulling the trigger was still scary
Crash Take 2
Robert now talks us through what life has been like during this latest crash
He went from Fat FIRE to Lean Fire in one month
Robert had also taken on a little side gig but was let go because of the turndown
He says at this point you just have to give up control
By this he means, just stay the course and don't do anything rash
Robert also gives us insight into which individual stocks may or may not be favorable as we come out of this crash
Especially focusing on companies that are getting bailouts which hinder investors
And rest easy, Robert says he's nowhere near considering full-time work
Key Takeaways
Sell Your Salary: Robert walks us through the high earning potential that sales brings
Trust the Process: Losing 10x your annual expenses in a month can be disturbing but Robert isn't giving up on the process
Call to Action
Research some companies you're interested in, you don't have to make any individual stock purchases but it can be a fun exercise to vet companies that you may be interested in.
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Mar 31, 2020 • 45min
Cutting Expenses After Beating the Income Game | Dustin Mathews from WealthFit
Today's episode features Dustin Mathews from WealthFit.
Dustin worked for and built several businesses.
Some of these businesses had huge incomes and expenses but Dustin found himself without a ton to show for it.
Then Dustin discovers FI and starts radically changing how he lived and starts spreading financial advice himself.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Dustin's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Dustin's Journey to FI
He attributes Rich Dad Poor Dad as his entry into FI
Most of his work / finance life was around building a business and selling it
He started out with some startups but then decided to create his own business
Dustin admits he didn't mind racking up debt for these businesses
He attributes his entrepreneur spirit from his mom
Dustin's First Business
As part of a mastermind, he found someone who could use some marketing help
The business was selling courses around lines of credit for businesses
A big recommendation Dustin give is doing lots of small changes and testing along the way.
After Discovering FI
He walks us through the tough conversations with his wife
Dustin also said that for tracking expenses, a google sheet stuck with him where fancy apps didn't
Then Dustin got the opportunity to go work for Wealthfit
Stepping Back to His Six-Figure Courses
He starts getting involved in product launches which were very profitable
Then he starts a seminar business around teaching others to do product launches
These seminars could bring in over $1M a year
That would be over $250k over three days
It's important to remember that was gross income
The business kept sprawling with more expenses
On top of that, Dustin was spending all his money without worrying about saving
Teaching Others From His Mistakes
When Dustin got the opportunity to work at Wealthfit he was excited
Excited to help others avoid mistakes he made with his businesses and personally grow
He calls Wealthfit the Netflix of personal finance
They have courses and materials around both personal finance and entrepreneurship/side hustles
We wrap up with Dustin sharing how he landed Dennis Rodman on his podcast
Key Takeaways
Easy Come, Easy Go: It's awesome to grow your income but you need both intentional spending and income in order to make progress
Lift others with your mistakes: We loved how Dustin brings his knowledge and opens up about his failures in a way to help others
People can change: Dustin has felt what it's like to live a life full of expenses and huge incomes but the FI message still resonated eventually
Call to Action
Slow down a little if you still haven't found your purpose and re-evaluate that your money and effort are aligned with your goals.
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This free, easy-to-use portfolio management tool aggregates all of your financial data and helps to track your spending, net worth, and investment accounts. Keeping track of your money has never been easier. With 1.6 million users and growing, this platform is becoming a leader in its industry. We have both been using Personal Capital for years and highly recommend it. Sign up for your free account here!
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Mar 24, 2020 • 31min
Realizing the Positives During Negative Times
In today's episode, you'll hear from your hosts only. Hopefully, you find some comfort in today's episode during this uncertain time.
This episode is covering the Coronavirus, how it impacts us mentally, physically, and financially even if we're lucky enough to avoid getting sick.
These are certainly tough times but we hope there are some bright spots you can use as motivation to get through this.
We don't know how long this could last, so let's get through this prepared and together.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Topics Covered in Todays Podcast Focusing on Coronavirus and FI
We start off covering current correction
We’re currently at late 2016 levels
Then talk through scenarios if you pulled out of the market in 2008 and stayed out for X number of years
Even if you invested at the height of the market (September 2008), your annualized, inflation-adjusted return as of March 2020 is 4.5%
Federal tax filing deadlines and payments extended to July 15 (including estimated quarterly payments)
Cover importance of having an emergency fund
Briefly touch on unemployment benefits
Share our thoughts on if we get stimulus checks, what you could do with it
Go over side hustling / extra income ideas
We look at how you can support local businesses and yourself
Do you have tech skills? Help companies go digital as a consultant
Share our opinions on stopping the spread of the virus (incubation period, social distancing, etc.)
Give insight into our own personal impacts with travel etc
Brainstorm some low cost/ free hobbies you can do online
Help you see how Zoom/Skype tech can replace happy hours and social events
Emphasize fitness while quarantined
Try to highlight the money you'll be saving during a quarantine
Then look to share some potential escapes you can still do that are quarantine friendly
Running
Camping
Biking
Photography
Road trips
We go into over-preparing, mentally and financially, for the potential that life remains in an altered state for many months
Finally, we remind you that now is the perfect time for projects you've been putting off, now is the perfect time to accomplish
Key Takeaways
This could take time: We have to plan both mentally and financially for uncertain times to consider for many months.
Silver Linings: It's certainly not a situation any of us want to be in, but what can we do to come out of this as strong as possible?
FI is here to stay: There are voices out there calling for the end of FI, but there will never be a reason to stop aligning your spending to your values, living responsibly, and educating yourself on finances.
Call to Action
Really think through and put together a plan for how you can last 8+ months living in this way that covers you financially, emotionally, and physically
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Mar 17, 2020 • 48min
Starting a Six-Figure Food Tour Company | Christine Hughey
Today's episode features Christine Hughey who owns A Little Local Flavor food tour business.
Christine navigated several cities and years to land her dream job in Nashville.
Then shortly after, Christine would be celebrating a new marriage and devastated by their household income dropping from $120k to $35k.
At the bottom, she took a challenge to start her own business and in no time had created a six-figure food tour company that is growing at leaps and bounds.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Christine's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Christine's background
She feels like she had a better than average financial understanding growing up
Christine would go visit who are Grandmother who tasked them with tracking stock prices
Her Grandmother would also buy them small stocks in companies they understood
It gave them something to chat about over their times apart
Christine admits that she took all those lessons for granted until much later
When it was time to go to college, Christine wanted to get into the print industry
This ended up requiring her to get an engineering degree at the college she was at
From there she moved to Colorado and got a job she did not enjoy
Journey Towards FI
In 2006 she is making around $35k per year and saving around $200 per month
She also realized a true engineering job wasn't going to be there for her in Denver
From there she moved to a small town in Texas for a few years
Then her dream job opened up in Nashville, TN
Things Begin to Fall Apart
We're now entering 2013 on the journey and Christine is hitting her groove
Until she is shocked to find out that she'll be losing that dream job quickly after starting
Leading up to this, they had tried to push more and more work on her with no increased pay
Christine's husband helped her through this down period
Then she got a new contract for a dream job as an engineer and things were looking up
Then six weeks after their honeymoon, that new contract got pulled and she was unemployed
On top of this, her husband lost his largest income-generating gig
Six weeks after their honeymoon they saw their pay get cut from $120k to $35k
They started cutting all expenses and downsizing their house
Christine admits that the whole experience was crushing
She vowed to never let one company be the source of her income
The turnaround
Christine finally finds work at a food tour company in Nashville
The hours are long and the pay had gotten cut in half
Then January 2018 happened and her life completely changed
This was when she attended her first financial independence event
Christine attended CampFI down in Florida
At the conference, she was challenged to start her own food tour company
When she got home, she quit her job and started her own business that May
This was the start of A Little Local Flavor
Building a Six-Figure Business
Christine admits she was out of her comfort zone
What got her through was just taking one small step every day
Most of her education came from podcasts
It took some time for her to shed being an engineer as her identity
As she built her team she had several keys she wanted to hit
Some things she wanted was to fair pay, have strong values, and a good work environment
She then layers in lots of bonuses into her employees' pay
This small step really incentivizes them to do great work
By the end of 2018, they had over $60k in sales
But then 2019 grew like crazy
She grew her team to include 8 employees
They also saw the number of visitors grow to 4400 and sales to $330k
With that, they took home 23% as profit
Christine expects to grow that margin and increase tour types and locations
Her 2020 goal is $500k for the company
She also hopes to be able to scale back her involvement
Key Takeaways
Social Currency: Christine talks about how to put ou...

Mar 10, 2020 • 45min
When Can I Retire? | Tyson Koska from OnTrajectory
Today's episode features Tyson Koska from OnTrajectory.
Tyson joined the Army when he didn't have enough money to go to the college he wanted.
Later, he would end up with an English and Philosophy degree which didn't land him a job.
He fell back on an old skill of programming and up-skilled his way into eventually making six figures.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Tyson's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Tyson's background
From a young age, he had jobs and tried to make his own money
His goal has always been to be independent
When it was time to go to college his parents offered to help
But for them to do so he would have to live at home
Instead, he decided to join the Army and became a helicopter pilot
Tyson admitted he made a lot of missteps when he first started working
He blew all his money and racked up credit cards
Reinventing and Up-Skilling
He left the military in 1992
In the end, he would end up in that little local college after all
Tyson decided to study English and philosophy
Those majors didn't provide any job prospects
Tyson fell back on his old skill of programming that he learned at age 13
This spun into a job and a pipeline for up-skilling
Over that stint, he would climb from $30k income to over $100k
His income was increasing but so was his spending
Tyson says that was largely due to marrying the wrong person
Then we discussed what really flipped the switch for him
He recalls a friend who wanted to open a McDonald's
His friend said he needed $100k to do so
That sounded like a ridiculous amount of money to him but inspired him
Creating OnTrajectory
Another big turning point was when his second kid was on the way
There was so much unknown and he couldn't find a tool to help him plan for them
This need led him to build OnTrajectory
Now he sees both individuals and advisory firms using the tool
It's also available for a free 30-day trial with no credit card needed to sign up
Then Tyson walks us through all the incredible detail you can get from the app
There are walkthroughs on YouTube as well as several guides
It's a really cool tool that allows you to insert tons of complicated life events into your projections
Key Takeaways
Mistakes Happen: Tyson calls out several missteps but he learns from them instead of dwelling on them
Life is Complicated: OnTrajectory was born out of this idea to model all the crazy life events we can run into
Call to Action
Head on over to OnTrajectory to start your 30-day free trial and see what your plan looks like with all those important life moments.
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Mar 3, 2020 • 39min
Learning How to Bounce Back From Your Failures | Josh Overmyer
Today's episode features Josh Overmyer from JoshOvermyer.com
Josh lost his job and a major chunk of his home value in 2009.
That would force him back under his parents' roof for two years.
Luckily he turned things around and discovered FI but it wasn't all roses.
Josh takes us through that whole journey including bouncing back from failures with precious metals, penny stocks and peer to peer lending.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Josh's background
Grew up in small-town Indiana
Dad worked in a factory, Mom works as HR manager both 20+ year careers
First in his family with a 4-year degree
He majored in Urban development
Moved down to Fort Myers Florida in 2005
The Great Recession Hits
Then the recession hit and work came to a halt
Then in July 2009, he lost his job
Josh then moved back home to stay above water
He had bought a house that saw its value get severely lowered
Josh had to keep up a low-cost lifestyle for two years
He averaged $19k in spending
Josh would move out of his parents' house in 2011
Bumpy Path to FI
Then he started finding FI/RE bloggers like J Money
Josh eventually found a job in grant administration
Then Josh starts talking about the failures he’s learned from
These include investing in precious metals, penny stocks, and peer to peer lending
Hitting His Stride
Josh would land a new job back down in Florida
At the exact same time, he would start driving for Uber
He just kept saving and saving
July of 2017 he started maxing out his 457
Over his 3.5 years working in Florida he would start at 30% and ramp-up
Josh then covers all the activities he takes place in the FI community
In his day to day life, he doesn’t have people to talk about Finance with
But through FinCon and CampFI he has found his people
He has also credited Travel Rewards as the biggest game-changer for him
The whole 3.5 years he worked he didn’t have vacation so he saved points
Now he’s utilizing those points and recommends the Capital One credit card
Josh then talks about how to hit those minimum spends
Key Takeaways
Life hits hard: Josh never could have seen his world flipped upside down from the recession, but it did and he wasn't prepared
Learning from mistakes: Josh tried several different angles at investing before finding his groove
Stay Positive: Josh is so upbeat about his story and now in a great place and will be ready for the next market challenge
Call to Action
Head over to our Facebook Group and let us know a failure you've had and what you learned from it.
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Feb 25, 2020 • 31min
Setting Your Financial Goals for 2020
In today's episode, you'll hear from just your Hosts! That's right, no guests today, but plenty of voices will be heard.
This episode is covering the 2020 goals we sourced from our Community Facebook Page.
In today's episode, the guys share with you the powerful goals The FI Show group set for 2020.
As always the Community Facebook Page has set the bar high and brought us some impressive ambitions that we can't wait to follow and help motivate!
As always the hosts will also be transparent with their financial goals for 2020.
Hopefully, you enjoy this special episode!
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Goals from various community members
345 bench / 445 squat / 515 deadlift
Add $100k to their net-worth
Visit 15 new countries
Publish a second book
Finalize estate plan
Quit jobs and fix up Air BnBs
Pay off student loans
Buy first house hack
Positive net-worth
Attend 2020 FinCon
Complete triathlon
Make $35k from rentals
Buy replacement commuter car
Put extra $12k towards mortgage
Payoff house
Zero consumer debt
Max out IRAs
The Hosts Share Their 2020 Goals
Justin
Finish a half marathon length spartan race
Put $100k into the stock market
Make $1800 selling blood / blood cells
Link To Learn More - Tell them Justin sent you!
Finish 2012 Ford Transit camper-van conversion
Have an 80%+ savings rate
Hit his FI Number ($550k)
Cody
Get to his lowest body fat % of his life
Buy a house hack
Invest $50k into retirement accounts
Take one memorable trip every month
Volunteer more
Push himself and take a risk
Podcast
Get an A-list celebrity / athlete on the show
Double listeners and community members
Hit the road and meet the community in person
Key Takeaway
This community is ambitious: We were amazed to see how strong some of these goals were but based on the 2019 progress, we know they are going to hit them.
Call to Action
Join the FI Show Community Page and share your goals with someone!
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Feb 18, 2020 • 39min
Debt Paydown, Tracking Expenses, & Financial Independence | Rebecca from My Fat Purse
Today's episode features Rebecca from My Fat Purse.
She breaks down how she and her husband paid down his $180k student loan debt in just 2 years.
Rebecca and her husband gave up pensions from the military and are poised to hit FI in 5 years.
She talks about how powerful tracking their spending and avoiding lifestyle inflation was to this journey.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Rebecca's background
She started taking her finances seriously after marriage
Rebecca's husband came into the marriage with $180k of debt
They paid that debt off in 2 years
Rebecca graduated without any student loan debt thanks to the military
She studied mathematics for her bachelors
Then she got paid by the Air Force to get her masters
Paying Down $180k Debt
Rebecca attributes tracking expenses as the most powerful force to paying off debt
They put all of one salary completely towards debt
She also calls out how important it was to avoid lifestyle inflation
That refers to slowly spending more money over time
Rebecca's husband was also in the Air Force
He was supposed to be on scholarship but ended up losing on it
She covers that tough decision on giving up a pension and chasing FI
Life After the Military
Her husband took a slight hit in income and she saw a raise
Rebecca stuck with working for the military as a contractor
Her husband decided to completely change up his job
They now have control over where they live but decided to stay in Colorado
This was mostly due to her husband's job and ease for her to find a good job
Path to FI
They have purchased two homes
One is their primary residence
The other was for renting out on Air BnB
That experiment didn't turn out well so they sold it
Outside of their primary residence, they keep it simple with a three-fund portfolio
Rebecca feels they are five years away from financial independence
Next Rebecca walks through why and how they combined finances
They do keep separate accounts for some flexible spending
Budget Tracking
Rebecca really emphasized tracking spending and how she does it
She started with Mint
Recently she transitioned to an app called EveryDollar
She also has built a very robust tracker you can download
Key Takeaways
True Partnerships: Rebecca didn't put all the debt payoff on her husband, she knew that their goals were tied together and decided to help
Tracking not budgeting: People often think you have to set limits on yourself when in reality, simply knowing where your money goes is the first step
Not all real estate is gold: Just a nice reminder that while real estate is extremely powerful, it's not foolproof as Rebecca found out
Call to Action
Take some time and completely track your expenses for 1-3 months even if you've done so in the past. This can help make sure you fully understand where all your money is headed.
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Feb 11, 2020 • 49min
Job Hopping for Raises and Retiring at 30 | A Purple Life
Today's episode is an awesome chat with Purple from A Purple Life.
Purple has an awesome story and she hits a giant milestone of retirement at age 30 this year.
She covers how she continued to jump jobs in a way to increase her salary 3x while raising job satisfaction.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Purple Beginnings
Purple was introduced to financial independence by her partner
However, she didn't listen to his advice for two years
She felt she had things in order to retire in her 50s
Her mom actually retired in her 30s
Purples mom also helped build financial understanding
She would give purple $1 for chores but remove taxes first
Purple talks about being frugal in high school and college
Her degree was in American Studies
She ended up landing a job in advertising
Then New York happened
She said she was brainwashed there
Expensive heels and purse subscriptions ensued
Job Hopping
Her first New York job paid about $35k
She was also super unhappy and stressed
Purple quit that job without another one lined up
She was hired in a couple of weeks with a promotion and $13k raise
That made her realize how much she could leverage job offers
The next job was another $17k raise which put her up to $65k
Then she looked to start dropping her expenses
This would take her out to Seattle which was half the cost of Manhattan
Job hops would continue until her salary today of $110k
In total, she had 3x her income and cut living costs in half between rent and taxes
FIRE Ignites
It started clicking that these voices like Mr. Money Mustache were actually realistic
She got a lot more serious about all her line items
A big one she calls out is learning to cook
After things settled, she realized she could and will retire at 30
Her Why of FIRE
She doesn't want to be held to a schedule... that simple
Purple doesn't hate her job and even gets to work from home
She also plans to stop renting and slow travel all over the world
Purple admits she doesn't know if being a nomad will be for her
Her target date is September 2020
Why her Journey works
Never owned a car
Doesn't want a house
Will not have children
Started investing early
Only spends $18k per year
Net-worth
2015 - $89k
2016 - $137k
2017 - $234k
2018 - $280k
2019 - $448
Projected $500k at retirement
She's super flexible
Un-productivity Advocate
Purple is a hard worker and type-A
But she recognizes too many people equate being busy as successful
There's no strong desire with her for a side hustle
It's important for her as an introvert to take time and recharge
She does, however, plan on continuing her blog
And she also uses the app Job Spotter to make some money on the side
Key Takeaways
Leverage Yourself: You make $x today but that doesn't mean it's what you're worth. Don't underestimate your value.
Compounding is Strong: Purple started not making a ton and living in a very expensive place but now she's retiring at 30. It worked because she started early and just kept saving.
Busy isn't required: Purple calls out how we don't have to inject stress, plans and work into our lives, that it's ok to just relax.
Call to Action
Take a look at your skills and how they could fit in a different role or company that allows you to up your salary.
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