

The Financial Independence Show
Cody Berman and Justin Taylor
Cody Berman and Justin Taylor believe in the concept of “Financial Independence For All”. The Financial Independence Show focuses on REAL stories of individuals on their journey to financial independence. Each episode aims to include actionable insights and takeaways for listeners to implement into their own financial situation. The podcast covers topics like building wealth, entrepreneurship, investing, money mindset, small business, frugality, geoarbitrage, side hustles, real estate, productivity, travel, and so much more. Sit back, tune in, and join a community of like-minded people who are changing their lives through financial independence.
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Feb 10, 2025 • 42min
Helping 1,000,000 People Invest in Real Estate | Dustin Heiner
 Dustin Heiner returns to the show after a long 5 years to share what he's been up to since his last appearance (a lot!).
We discuss
 	His recent 355-unit apartment building and multiple hotel acquisitions
 	How he's built a podcasting network
 	His fast-growing real estate conference
 	His daily and weekly routine and how he balances work and life
 	What it really takes to build passive income
And so much more.
Dustin's goal is to help 1,000,000 people start investing in real estate, and he's already made huge progress.
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Links from The Episode
 	REWBCon (Use code "Cody" for 10% off)
 	Dustin's Free Real Estate Investing Course
 	Dustin's Instagram
 	Dustin's YouTube
 	Master Passive Income
 	Dustin's First Appearance on The FI Show
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/5ok7JGOhVwE
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Saving-Sherpa (Justin’s blog) 

Jan 1, 2025 • 0sec
2025 Goals and Updates (+ a Major Podcast Announcement)
 Today we bring you our goals for 2025 along with some upcoming changes to the podcast.
Every year, we like to map out some of our goals and what we aim to accomplish.
We break these down into the following categories:
 	Money/Finance
 	Fitness
 	Family/Relationship
 	Other
Some examples of Cody's goals include:
 	Doubling down on what works for business and finance
 	Completing an Ironman
 	Cutting out bad relationships and doubling down on good ones
 	Completing the build for his "forever" home
Some of Justin's Goals include:
 	Running a sub-22-min 5k and completing a half-marathon
 	Simplifying the investment account sprawl
 	Coming away from his trip with a short list of slow travel locations
 	Writing more
In the episode, you'll get the full breakdown of all the goals and why some of these are the focus for 2025.
We hope you enjoyed this goal-setting episode and are inspired to make some big moves in 2025.
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Links from The Episode
 	Traveling the World for $46/day
 	2023 Recap and 2024 Goals
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Dec 25, 2024 • 35min
12 Money Lessons (Christmas Special)
 This festive special dives into 12 crucial money lessons inspired by the holiday season. Key insights include the idea that retirement is about numbers, not age, and the power of compound interest when investing early. Listeners learn that focusing on major expenses can yield greater savings than minor ones. Emphasizing action over mere information, the hosts encourage investing in personal growth and starting now for better future returns. It's all about balancing financial goals with meaningful experiences! 

Dec 18, 2024 • 53min
Finding Purpose and Meaning | Doc G
 Jordan Grumet aka Doc G brings his brilliant insights to help listeners find answers to one of the hardest questions we battle with, what is our purpose?
That gets broken down in this episode and his upcoming book, The Purpose Code.
He has a history as a physician which brings amazing perspectives, especially from his time as a hospice doctor.
Jordan recounts his life lessons to explain how to find purpose and shed the anxiety that normally comes with that search.
He also breaks down the difference between regret and disappointment.
Jordan does a phenomenal job of incorporating exercises at the end of each chapter to put what you read into practice.
The book and discussion don't just stop with your life but also discuss how to leave a lasting legacy for others.
There's no doubt that Jordan has some of the most thoughtful and insightful conversations anywhere in the personal finance space.
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Links from The Episode
 	The Purpose Code Book
 	Jordan's Website
 	Earn and Invest Podcast
 	Jordan's First Episode on The FI Show
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/DunvVz_JdTc
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Dec 11, 2024 • 23min
Financial Freedom in 3 Years (Cody’s FI Journey Explained)
 Someone recently asked me: "How did you reach FI?"
I didn't have a great answer for them that didn't take 30+ minutes to explain.
So, I recorded a podcast episode outlining my entire FI Journey - all the numbers, all the income streams, all the expenses, year over year.
Below are the notes I created to guide the episode.
2016
 	Read the 4-Hour Workweek
 	Started my first real business, Arsenal Discs
 	Learned how to build a website, marketing, sales, networking, negotiations, pricing, product design… all the HARD way
2017
 	Discovered FI through Mr. Money Mustache
 	Started listening to podcasts like ChooseFI and Afford Anything
 	Read books like Simple Path to Wealth and Your Money or Your Life
 	Learned about side hustles, taxes, the 4% rule, etc.
 	Despite all this, didn’t really have any money since I was paying for college
 	Locked in job for July 2018, plan was to work 7-10 years to hit FI
2018
 	Went to CampFI in January and FI became “real”
 	Lived in Australia with lots of time on my hands and started side hustling after being unable to find a regular job
 	Blog launched in April 2018 to document my journey
 	Started working as a commercial RE lender in July 2018 once I returned to the U.S.
 	All-in comp was $80-85k
 	Knowing that FI existed was a blessing and a curse
 	Launched podcast in August 2018 (nothing else like it)
 	FinCon 2018 (CampFI on steroids) - met Grant and others
 	By the end of that year, I had tried a dozen new side hustles (blogging, podcasting, freelance writing, building websites, editing podcasts, affiliate marketing, digital products, etc)
 	Income: $44,000, Net worth: $75,000, Stock market: -6.24%
2019
 	Quit my corporate job on January 31, 2019 with $30,000+ saved
 	Side hustles were bringing in $1,200 per month, but my expenses were the same ($450 rent, paid off car, super frugal)
 	Financial Freedom book tour March-May of 2019
 	Teamed up with Julie to launch Gold City Ventures in June 2019
 	So many people asking for 1-on-1, wanted to teach at scale
 	Most of my time after that was spent working on Gold City Ventures
 	Practicing my craft to teach better
 	Managing a community, recording & packaging content, hiring people
 	Originally launched E-Printables, a blogging course, and a freelancing course
 	LOTs of learning lessons from this business
 	Income: $96,000, Net worth: $179,000, Stock market: 28.88%
2020
 	Went all-in on digital products (dropped blogging and freelancing from GCV)
 	Etsy shop, Shopify store, templates, etc.
 	Continued to live extremely frugally (spending less than $25,000/year)
 	Bought 3-unit house hack in September 2020
 	$235,000, we lived in the basement, rent $2,200, expenses $1,700
 	Bought duplex in November 2020
 	$170,000, rent $2,250, expenses $1,350
 	Bought 3-unit house hack in December 2020
 	$315,000, we moved to 1BR/1BA, rent $2,600, expenses $2,100
 	First house hack jumped to $3,000 in rent once we moved out
 	Income: $198,000, Net worth: $392,000, Stock market: 16.26%
2021
 	Started freelancing for Motley Fool (who acquired MillennialMoney.com)
 	Extra $10K/month, SEO, “thinking big”, awesome team
 	Bought triplex in May 2021
 	$245,000, rent $2,900, expenses $1,900
 	~$200,000 in down payments came from digital product income
 	Gold City Ventures continues to grow rapidly
 	Income: $403,000, Net worth: $1,035,000, Stock market: 26.89%
 	Financial Freedom! 
 	Had RE making $3,000+ in cash flow, $500,000+ invested in the stock market
 	In addition to the semi-passive $20,000+ per month I was earning with digital products
Since I reached financial independence, I have continued to work on my main business, Gold City Ventures and invest 90%+ of my income into index funds and real estate.
Links from the Episode
 	CodyDBerman.com (previously FlytoFi)
 	The FI Show (first episode) 

Dec 4, 2024 • 38min
1 Year Since Retirement
 Justin retired 1 year ago today!
What did he do? How does he feel? Did the numbers work out as expected?
Luckily for you, he's dropped all the answers to that in the show with the highlights below.
Read on for Justin's notes:
Numerical Highlights from Year 1:
 	Averaged around $2500/mo or $30k/yr  spending
 	Networth increased by ~400k ($1.7M -> $2.1M)
 	Continued to save money
 	4% SWR + Passive Income = ~13k/mo or $156k/yr if I wanted
Retirement Feelings Explained:
 	Relaxed:  just being yourself and no corporate coating, 
 	Awkward: Realizing every American interaction with someone starts off with work followed by me trying to explain the situation and balancing the outward perception from  to 
 	Proud: as someone who is often hard on themself for not sticking to things, financial independence took real commitment for ~9 years. 
 	Scared: that I’ll have great ideas I want to try, memories I want to make, relationships I want to strengthen, or  things I want to discuss… but discover that those I want to do it with don’t want those things at all
 	Relieved: After a year, I find similarities to the relief I felt over telling everyone I gave up alcohol. Saying aloud that I’ve done something that 99% of people will never do felt very weird at first, but then I adjusted to that 1% weirdo being my story, and the people who truly care about me let you be that 1% weirdo. And that exchange ends with a lot of relief. 
 	Responsible: I feel a responsibility to push the people I love the most to take ownership of their financial lives 
 	Satisfied: Not from a mentality that everything that needs to be accomplished is accomplished. My sense of satisfaction comes from knowing that the first year of retirement was worth every decision and delayed gratification even if it’s the only year of financial freedom I ever get. 
Detailed Breakdown of Year 1 Activities:
December 2023
 	Hosted my niece for a week in Austin
 	Made custom laser engraved gifts for my mom and good friend
 	Tried Franklins BBQ and Interstellar BBQ for the first time
 	Planned and purchased everything for a kitchen remodel
 	Saw several movies
 	Redesigned ripped dip packaging
 	Attended consumer product goods meetups
 	Went to the trail of lights
 	Did a baby kangaroo feeding experience
 	Redesigned my Dad’s upstairs to be a sudo apartment in Mississippi
 	Ripped up old flooring and prepped concrete for staining 
 	Replaced all the windows in the flip
 	Spent two weeks in Mississippi
 	Enjoyed Christmas with my family
 	Tons of workouts
January 2024
 	Two weeks in Mississippi
 	Someone hit and totaled my Tesla
 	Redid Kitchen in Leslie’s family beach house
 	Lots of other projects there like replacing all the hardware for the doors
 	Spent a week on the Texas coast
 	Saw several movies
 	Lots of cooking
 	Lots of workouts
 	Dove into Ninja Creamis
February 2024
 	Spent two weeks on the Texas coast
 	More beach house remodeling
 	Went to the Austin Symphony
 	Took the train to Dallas
 	Completed the purchase of my New (to me) Tesla Model Y
 	Spent a couple of days with my best friend in Dallas
 	Spent a week in Mississippi
 	Lots of remodeling on the flip house
 	Attended a Rodeo
 	Took my niece to a concert in Nashville
March 2024
 	Spent two weeks in Mississippi
 	Played golf
 	Replaced doors and painted the exterior of the flip house
 	Drove back to Austin
 	Tried a new boxing class
 	Did my first Dexa scan (10.1% body fat)
 	Spent a week in Miami
 	Attended Ultra music festival
 	Went to two additional concerts
 	Drove back to Texas Coast
April 2024
 	More remodeling on Texas beach house
 	Found outfits for our engagement (surprise to Leslie)
 	Made pies/desserts for Leslie’s Brother’s 50th birthday
 	Spent two weeks in Portugal
 	Got engaged
 	A quick trip to Paris 

Nov 27, 2024 • 25min
Election Aftermath, Controlling Your Controllables, and Giving Thanks
 In this episode, Cody and Justin discuss what they're thankful for and the importance of focusing on what you can control.
We recorded this episode shortly after Election Day.
Elections leave a lot of people feeling defeated and a lot of people feeling like they've won.
The reality is that neither is true.
You are the most critical variable in your financial independence journey, regardless of who's sitting in the Oval Office.
The key is to focus on what you can control and to appreciate the privilege that you have.
Even if things don't seem rosy, the hardest experiences often shape us the most and transform us into better versions of ourselves.
We hope this inspires you to evaluate your life, appreciate your advantages, spend some time in gratitude, and get inspired for your next chapter in life.
If you found value in the episode, please share it with a friend!
Links from the Episode
 	The Purpose Code
Join the Community
We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community!
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Nov 20, 2024 • 58min
Healthcare on the FI Journey | Lynn & Jackie (Replay)
 It's open enrollment season, meaning making healthcare choices for the upcoming year.
So for today’s episode, we're featuring FI healthcare experts Lynn Frair and Jackie Cummings Koski.
We cover:
 	HSAs
 	Healthshare Ministries
 	Subsidized Care
 	Deductible and Out-ot-Pocket Maximums
 	Open Enrollment
 	State Healthcare Exchanges
 	End-of-life Care
 	Emergency Funds
and more!
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Links and Resources
 	Lynn's Instagram
 	Jackie's Instagram
 	Heatlhcare.gov
 	WexInc HSA vs Traditional Calculator
 	Mad Fientist article on HSAs
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We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community!
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Nov 13, 2024 • 33min
This Side Hustle Will Blow Your Mind
 Join Amy Porterfield, an expert in online marketing and digital products, as she chats with Cody about the world of digital products. They dive into the best platforms for selling, how to uncover hidden digital assets, and the magic of printables for growing your subscriber base. Learn tips on maximizing revenue through strategic digital add-ons and how to repurpose existing tools into profitable offerings. Plus, discover how to launch a side hustle with ease and the potential of selling on Etsy! 

Nov 6, 2024 • 36min
Tennis Olympian Turned Real Estate Pro | Sunitha Rao (Replay)
 Our friend Sunitha Rao came from humble beginnings.
Her parents spent most of their lives in one of the poorest regions in India.
Despite all odds, Suni became a professional tennis player and traveled the globe playing in different tournaments.
Years later, she turned her competitive nature toward real estate.
Her real estate career quickly started to explode, and she's been addicted ever since.
This episode originally aired in 2019, but it was so good, we decided to replay it.
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Links from The Episode
 	
 	Suni's Original Episode from 2019
 	Suni's LinkedIn
 	Suni's Instagram
Join the Community
We’d love to hear your comments and questions about this week’s episode. Here are some of the best ways to stay in touch and get involved in The FI Show community!
 	Grab the Ultimate FI Spreadsheet
 	Join our Facebook Group
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 	Send an email to contact [at] TheFIshow [dot] com
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