
The Financial Independence Show
Cody Berman and Justin Taylor believe in the concept of “Financial Independence For All”. The Financial Independence Show focuses on REAL stories of individuals on their journey to financial independence. Each episode aims to include actionable insights and takeaways for listeners to implement into their own financial situation. The podcast covers topics like building wealth, entrepreneurship, investing, money mindset, small business, frugality, geoarbitrage, side hustles, real estate, productivity, travel, and so much more. Sit back, tune in, and join a community of like-minded people who are changing their lives through financial independence.
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Mar 11, 2025 • 1h
Inner Entrepreneur (Start, Build, Buy, Scale, and Sell Your Business) | Grant Sabatier
Grant Sabatier, bestselling author of Financial Freedom and Inner Entrepreneur, shares his inspiring entrepreneurial journey and offers a blueprint for success. He dives into how to generate innovative business ideas and reveals why 90% of small businesses fail. Grant discusses his perfect business formula, the impact of focusing on strengths, and the delicate balance between following passion and profit. His insights into the levels of entrepreneurship and building a supportive community for aspiring entrepreneurs are invaluable for anyone looking to thrive in business.

Feb 21, 2025 • 52min
$2,052 for 5 Weeks in Southeast Asia (Justin’s 1-Month Recap)
Today we bring you our first episode since Justin hit the road on his six-month journey across Asia and Europe.
Luckily, Justin loves documenting the numbers so you’ll get the most in-depth breakdown of expenses you could hope for.
Listen in to see how he’s living it up in paradise for $55/day.
That number includes accommodation, restaurants, groceries, gyms, activities, government fees, random purchases…literally everything.
Here’s a high-level breakdown for Justin’s half of the first 37 days expenses:
Transportation: $305
Accommodation: $590
Activities: $838
Restaurants: $134
Groceries: $82
Gov Fees: $32
Misc: $20
Gym: $51
That’s only $2k for 37 days!
Some highlight activities include:
4 day/3 night island hopping tour
Mount Batur sunrise jeep excursion
10-hour private driver tour
So many beaches and waterfalls
Three separate hour-plus massages
Three additional days of boat tours in the Phillippines
and more
Want all the data?
Check out Justin’s detailed spreadsheet
We hope you enjoyed this in-depth check-in and look forward to periodically bringing you these over the next few months.
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Links from The Episode
Traveling the World for $46/day
Justin’s Detailed Trip Expenses
Justin’s Substack (to follow along with his travels)
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/39w8PfTLmcg
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Feb 10, 2025 • 42min
Helping 1,000,000 People Invest in Real Estate | Dustin Heiner
Dustin Heiner returns to the show after a long 5 years to share what he’s been up to since his last appearance (a lot!).
We discuss
His recent 355-unit apartment building and multiple hotel acquisitions
How he’s built a podcasting network
His fast-growing real estate conference
His daily and weekly routine and how he balances work and life
What it really takes to build passive income
And so much more.
Dustin’s goal is to help 1,000,000 people start investing in real estate, and he’s already made huge progress.
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Links from The Episode
REWBCon (Use code “Cody” for 10% off)
Dustin’s Free Real Estate Investing Course
Dustin’s Instagram
Dustin’s YouTube
Master Passive Income
Dustin’s First Appearance on The FI Show
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/5ok7JGOhVwE
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Jan 1, 2025 • 0sec
2025 Goals and Updates (+ a Major Podcast Announcement)
Today we bring you our goals for 2025 along with some upcoming changes to the podcast.
Every year, we like to map out some of our goals and what we aim to accomplish.
We break these down into the following categories:
Money/Finance
Fitness
Family/Relationship
Other
Some examples of Cody’s goals include:
Doubling down on what works for business and finance
Completing an Ironman
Cutting out bad relationships and doubling down on good ones
Completing the build for his “forever” home
Some of Justin’s Goals include:
Running a sub-22-min 5k and completing a half-marathon
Simplifying the investment account sprawl
Coming away from his trip with a short list of slow travel locations
Writing more
In the episode, you’ll get the full breakdown of all the goals and why some of these are the focus for 2025.
We hope you enjoyed this goal-setting episode and are inspired to make some big moves in 2025.
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Links from The Episode
Traveling the World for $46/day
2023 Recap and 2024 Goals
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Dec 25, 2024 • 35min
12 Money Lessons (Christmas Special)
This festive special dives into 12 crucial money lessons inspired by the holiday season. Key insights include the idea that retirement is about numbers, not age, and the power of compound interest when investing early. Listeners learn that focusing on major expenses can yield greater savings than minor ones. Emphasizing action over mere information, the hosts encourage investing in personal growth and starting now for better future returns. It's all about balancing financial goals with meaningful experiences!

Dec 18, 2024 • 53min
Finding Purpose and Meaning | Doc G
Jordan Grumet aka Doc G brings his brilliant insights to help listeners find answers to one of the hardest questions we battle with, what is our purpose?
That gets broken down in this episode and his upcoming book, The Purpose Code.
He has a history as a physician which brings amazing perspectives, especially from his time as a hospice doctor.
Jordan recounts his life lessons to explain how to find purpose and shed the anxiety that normally comes with that search.
He also breaks down the difference between regret and disappointment.
Jordan does a phenomenal job of incorporating exercises at the end of each chapter to put what you read into practice.
The book and discussion don’t just stop with your life but also discuss how to leave a lasting legacy for others.
There’s no doubt that Jordan has some of the most thoughtful and insightful conversations anywhere in the personal finance space.
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Links from The Episode
The Purpose Code Book
Jordan’s Website
Earn and Invest Podcast
Jordan’s First Episode on The FI Show
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/DunvVz_JdTc
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Dec 11, 2024 • 23min
Financial Freedom in 3 Years (Cody’s FI Journey Explained)
Someone recently asked me: “How did you reach FI?”
I didn’t have a great answer for them that didn’t take 30+ minutes to explain.
So, I recorded a podcast episode outlining my entire FI Journey – all the numbers, all the income streams, all the expenses, year over year.
Below are the notes I created to guide the episode.
2016
Read the 4-Hour Workweek
Started my first real business, Arsenal Discs
Learned how to build a website, marketing, sales, networking, negotiations, pricing, product design… all the HARD way
2017
Discovered FI through Mr. Money Mustache
Started listening to podcasts like ChooseFI and Afford Anything
Read books like Simple Path to Wealth and Your Money or Your Life
Learned about side hustles, taxes, the 4% rule, etc.
Despite all this, didn’t really have any money since I was paying for college
Locked in job for July 2018, plan was to work 7-10 years to hit FI
2018
Went to CampFI in January and FI became “real”
Lived in Australia with lots of time on my hands and started side hustling after being unable to find a regular job
Blog launched in April 2018 to document my journey
Started working as a commercial RE lender in July 2018 once I returned to the U.S.
All-in comp was $80-85k
Knowing that FI existed was a blessing and a curse
Launched podcast in August 2018 (nothing else like it)
FinCon 2018 (CampFI on steroids) – met Grant and others
By the end of that year, I had tried a dozen new side hustles (blogging, podcasting, freelance writing, building websites, editing podcasts, affiliate marketing, digital products, etc)
Income: $44,000, Net worth: $75,000, Stock market: -6.24%
2019
Quit my corporate job on January 31, 2019 with $30,000+ saved
Side hustles were bringing in $1,200 per month, but my expenses were the same ($450 rent, paid off car, super frugal)
Financial Freedom book tour March-May of 2019
Teamed up with Julie to launch Gold City Ventures in June 2019
So many people asking for 1-on-1, wanted to teach at scale
Most of my time after that was spent working on Gold City Ventures
Practicing my craft to teach better
Managing a community, recording & packaging content, hiring people
Originally launched E-Printables, a blogging course, and a freelancing course
LOTs of learning lessons from this business
Income: $96,000, Net worth: $179,000, Stock market: 28.88%
2020
Went all-in on digital products (dropped blogging and freelancing from GCV)
Etsy shop, Shopify store, templates, etc.
Continued to live extremely frugally (spending less than $25,000/year)
Bought 3-unit house hack in September 2020
$235,000, we lived in the basement, rent $2,200, expenses $1,700
Bought duplex in November 2020
$170,000, rent $2,250, expenses $1,350
Bought 3-unit house hack in December 2020
$315,000, we moved to 1BR/1BA, rent $2,600, expenses $2,100
First house hack jumped to $3,000 in rent once we moved out
Income: $198,000, Net worth: $392,000, Stock market: 16.26%
2021
Started freelancing for Motley Fool (who acquired MillennialMoney.com)
Extra $10K/month, SEO, “thinking big”, awesome team
Bought triplex in May 2021
$245,000, rent $2,900, expenses $1,900
~$200,000 in down payments came from digital product income
Gold City Ventures continues to grow rapidly
Income: $403,000, Net worth: $1,035,000, Stock market: 26.89%
Financial Freedom!
Had RE making $3,000+ in cash flow, $500,000+ invested in the stock market
In addition to the semi-passive $20,000+ per month I was earning with digital products
Since I reached financial independence, I have continued to work on my main business, Gold City Ventures and invest 90%+ of my income into index funds and real estate.
Links from the Episode
CodyDBerman.com (previously FlytoFi)
The FI Show (first episode)
Gold City Ventures
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Dec 4, 2024 • 38min
1 Year Since Retirement
Justin retired 1 year ago today!
What did he do? How does he feel? Did the numbers work out as expected?
Luckily for you, he’s dropped all the answers to that in the show with the highlights below.
Read on for Justin’s notes:
Numerical Highlights from Year 1:
Averaged around $2500/mo or $30k/yr spending
Networth increased by ~400k ($1.7M -> $2.1M)
Continued to save money
4% SWR + Passive Income = ~13k/mo or $156k/yr if I wanted
Retirement Feelings Explained:
Relaxed: just being yourself and no corporate coating,
Awkward: Realizing every American interaction with someone starts off with work followed by me trying to explain the situation and balancing the outward perception from <oh poor thing is jobless> to <this prick trying to flaunt how good he has it>
Proud: as someone who is often hard on themself for not sticking to things, financial independence took real commitment for ~9 years.
Scared: that I’ll have great ideas I want to try, memories I want to make, relationships I want to strengthen, or things I want to discuss… but discover that those I want to do it with don’t want those things at all
Relieved: After a year, I find similarities to the relief I felt over telling everyone I gave up alcohol. Saying aloud that I’ve done something that 99% of people will never do felt very weird at first, but then I adjusted to that 1% weirdo being my story, and the people who truly care about me let you be that 1% weirdo. And that exchange ends with a lot of relief.
Responsible: I feel a responsibility to push the people I love the most to take ownership of their financial lives
Satisfied: Not from a mentality that everything that needs to be accomplished is accomplished. My sense of satisfaction comes from knowing that the first year of retirement was worth every decision and delayed gratification even if it’s the only year of financial freedom I ever get.
Detailed Breakdown of Year 1 Activities:
December 2023
Hosted my niece for a week in Austin
Made custom laser engraved gifts for my mom and good friend
Tried Franklins BBQ and Interstellar BBQ for the first time
Planned and purchased everything for a kitchen remodel
Saw several movies
Redesigned ripped dip packaging
Attended consumer product goods meetups
Went to the trail of lights
Did a baby kangaroo feeding experience
Redesigned my Dad’s upstairs to be a sudo apartment in Mississippi
Ripped up old flooring and prepped concrete for staining
Replaced all the windows in the flip
Spent two weeks in Mississippi
Enjoyed Christmas with my family
Tons of workouts
January 2024
Two weeks in Mississippi
Someone hit and totaled my Tesla
Redid Kitchen in Leslie’s family beach house
Lots of other projects there like replacing all the hardware for the doors
Spent a week on the Texas coast
Saw several movies
Lots of cooking
Lots of workouts
Dove into Ninja Creamis
February 2024
Spent two weeks on the Texas coast
More beach house remodeling
Went to the Austin Symphony
Took the train to Dallas
Completed the purchase of my New (to me) Tesla Model Y
Spent a couple of days with my best friend in Dallas
Spent a week in Mississippi
Lots of remodeling on the flip house
Attended a Rodeo
Took my niece to a concert in Nashville
March 2024
Spent two weeks in Mississippi
Played golf
Replaced doors and painted the exterior of the flip house
Drove back to Austin
Tried a new boxing class
Did my first Dexa scan (10.1% body fat)
Spent a week in Miami
Attended Ultra music festival
Went to two additional concerts
Drove back to Texas Coast
April 2024
More remodeling on Texas beach house
Found outfits for our engagement (surprise to Leslie)
Made pies/desserts for Leslie’s Brother’s 50th birthday
Spent two weeks in Portugal
Got engaged
A quick trip to Paris
Volunteered for Preservation Austin home tour
Spent a week in Puerto Vallarta
May 2024
Hosted my parents in Austin
Threw an engagement party
Another trip to the Texas Coast
Yoga wellness day trip
DeadMau5 show in Austin
Spent 10 days in Chicago
Attended Beyond Wonderland music festival in Chicago
Tons of catching up with friends, sporting events, new restaurants, museums etc
June 2024
4 more days in Chicago
House sitting for Leslie’s brother
10 days in Mississippi
More work on the flip house
Cookout for Father’s Day
Consumer Product Goods event
Spent a week in Alaska
Took a private plane flight around the glaciers and mountains
July 2024
Spent two weeks across Oregon/Washington
Odesza concert at The Gorge on the 4th of July
Oregon Coast stay
Clamming
Exploring Portland
Berry Picking
Beautiful hikes
Highland cow experience
House sitting for Leslie’s Brother
Week in Puerto Rico
August 2024
Traveled to southern Mississippi
Attended my Aunt’s wedding
Spent a couple of days with my Aunt
Spent over two weeks in Africa
Hiked Kilimanjaro
Did African Safari
September 2024
Boat day Lake Austin
Knocked off some local Austin restaurants from the wishlist
Began planning our 6 month international trip
Started taking running more seriously
Mississippi State vs Texas football game
Hosted friends from Mississippi
Kygo concert
October 2024
F45 photoshoot
Celebrated Rhonda’s birthday
Staycation downtown Austin
Maggie Rogers concert
ACL
Domdolla concert
Baking spree (first biscuits, high protein desserts)
Started building cookbook
Vintage culture concert
Ride along in a rally car
Leslie 10yr college reunion
November 2024
Austin Networking getaway weekend
Wedding Expo
Hosted 5k / Friendsgiving
Spent 11 days in Dallas with my best friend
Creed concert
Hyrox race
4 days in Mercury Texas for Thanksgiving
Wooli concert
It’s obvious that Justin didn’t get bored in retirement or feel as though he was just sitting around being worthless.
We hope you enjoyed this detailed breakdown and case study of what a real example of retirement looks like.
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Links from the Episode
Justin’s Retirement Announcement Episode
$5,000,000 Net Worth and 2,000,000 Downloads Episode
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Nov 27, 2024 • 25min
Election Aftermath, Controlling Your Controllables, and Giving Thanks
In this episode, Cody and Justin discuss what they’re thankful for and the importance of focusing on what you can control.
We recorded this episode shortly after Election Day.
Elections leave a lot of people feeling defeated and a lot of people feeling like they’ve won.
The reality is that neither is true.
You are the most critical variable in your financial independence journey, regardless of who’s sitting in the Oval Office.
The key is to focus on what you can control and to appreciate the privilege that you have.
Even if things don’t seem rosy, the hardest experiences often shape us the most and transform us into better versions of ourselves.
We hope this inspires you to evaluate your life, appreciate your advantages, spend some time in gratitude, and get inspired for your next chapter in life.
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Links from the Episode
The Purpose Code
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Nov 20, 2024 • 58min
Healthcare on the FI Journey | Lynn & Jackie (Replay)
It’s open enrollment season, meaning making healthcare choices for the upcoming year.
So for today’s episode, we’re featuring FI healthcare experts Lynn Frair and Jackie Cummings Koski.
We cover:
HSAs
Healthshare Ministries
Subsidized Care
Deductible and Out-ot-Pocket Maximums
Open Enrollment
State Healthcare Exchanges
End-of-life Care
Emergency Funds
and more!
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Links and Resources
Lynn’s Instagram
Jackie’s Instagram
Heatlhcare.gov
WexInc HSA vs Traditional Calculator
Mad Fientist article on HSAs
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