
Tax Chats
Taxes touch every aspect of society, including who rules, where factories are built, what people drink, what car they buy, when they have children, and when they die. Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC), two accounting professors, chat about taxes, including current events, with the energy of an over-caffeinated chihuahua. Listening is guaranteed to be far more entertaining than actually paying your taxes.
Latest episodes

Oct 5, 2022 • 28min
The Chats that Might Have Been.
Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss several people Jeff has invited to be on the show, but who have (as of yet!) been unable to make a Tax Chats appearance. Scott guesses why Jeff invited each person to be on Tax Chats. The "John Edwards Tax Shelter", gas taxes and electric vehicles, soda taxes, and taxing assault rifles are all briefly discussed.

Sep 30, 2022 • 32min
Breaking Down Pillar I of the OECD's Inclusive Framework with Heydon Wardell Burrus.
Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss Pillar 1 of the OECD's Inclusive Framework with Heydon Wardell Burrus of the Centre for Business Taxation at Oxford University.

Sep 23, 2022 • 32min
Taxes in Sitcoms. A Conversation with Larry Zelenak.
Send us a textScott and Jeff chat with Larry Zelenak, Professor at the Duke Law School about taxes in sitcoms. Larry has documented the extensive list of episodes that use the federal income tax as a major component of the plot. His work documenting these facts can be found in these two articles:"Six Decades of the Federal Income Tax in Sitcoms""Seven-Plus Decades of the Federal Income Tax in Sitcoms: An Update"In the episode, we refer most frequently to three episodes:3Rd Rock From the Sun, Season 4, Episode 12 "Dick and Taxes"Roseanne, Season 2, Episode 22 "April Fool's Day"The Simpsons, Season 9: Episode 20 "The Trouble with Trillions"

Sep 14, 2022 • 39min
Taxing Tobacco: A Conversation with Mike Lovenheim
Send us a textIn this episode, Scott and Jeff discuss the some of the fascinating details related to the taxation of tobacco. We often think of the tax system as a tool to raise revenue. But the tax system is also used to encourage or discourage behavior. Taxing tobacco is one example of this type of tax, but the existence of the tax creates many strange incentives that affect the way people behave, including, counterintuitively, smoking more under some circumstances.

Sep 9, 2022 • 8min
Does (did?!?) the Queen of England pay Income Taxes?
Send us a textJeff quizzes Scott about the tax status of the Royal Family in England.Long live the Queen.

Sep 7, 2022 • 35min
Un-Adjusting the Tax Code by Taxing Adjusted Financial Accounting Income in the Inflation Reduction Act
Send us a textDespite our best efforts to inform the world about the perils of taxing financial statement income, the Corporate Alternative Minimum Tax based on financial accounting income passed as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. Jeff and Scott discuss the adjustments to financial accounting income that are part of the act, and describe how these adjustments will result in a situation where some firms will report high profits to shareholders and low or no tax, despite the minimum tax.

Aug 31, 2022 • 32min
Tax Inspectors Without Borders. A Conversation with Rusudan Kemularia.
Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss a program called Tax Inspectors Without Borders with Rusudan Kemularia, Head of Tax Inspectors Without Borders. The program is part of the OECD and is connected with the OECD's BEPS as part of an effort to help provide developing countries with the tools necessary to enforce tax laws in the complex international tax arena.

Aug 24, 2022 • 25min
Tax Tidbits from a recent Trip (which could be true!)
Send us a textJeff and Scott discuss some interesting tax-related observations Jeff made while visiting Oxford University and Mannheim University in England and Germany.

Aug 17, 2022 • 33min
Does the IRS really have guns? Debunking some recent fear mongering
Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss the $80 billion in additional funding that has been allocated to the IRS as part of the Inflation Reduction Act, or IRA. They also discuss the fact that the IRS owns and uses a variety of guns, ammunition, etc. They break down some of the fear-mongering headlines that have recently been in the press.

Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 22min
The Book Minimum Tax -- A Compilation of Thoughts
Send us a textIn this special episode, we compile several recordings that we have made over the past year related to the proposed alternative minimum tax on financial accounting earnings. The recordings are very much related to two op-ed articles Scott published in the Wall Street Journal, found here:Don’t Let Warren Politicize Accounting - WSJElizabeth Warren’s War on Accounting - WSJJeff has also written on the topic, including this letter to congress and an accompanying WSJ article that goes along with it:Letter to CongressAccounting Experts Ask Congress to Change Proposal on Minimum Corporate Tax - WSJThis episode is longer than usual, but we believe the information is worth consuming.
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