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Jul 27, 2022 • 35min

Taxing Carried Interest with Vic Fleischer

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss "carried interest" with Vic Fleischer, Professor of Law at UC Irvine. Carried interest is a special type of income that is taxed at favored capital gains tax rates, and is often associated with high earning individuals who manage private equity partnerships. One prominent example of someone who had significant income from carried interest was former presidential candidate Mitt Romney. 
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Jul 20, 2022 • 29min

Taxed by the Taliban with Ashley Jackson

Send us a textScott and Jeff learn from Ashley Jackson how the Taliban create a tax. We discuss how the tax system evolved initially to generate revenue to fund the Taliban objectives, until it became a symbol of its legitimacy. We talk about how the tax system evolved from a system of forced extractions to the point where customer support numbers became available to report mistreatment.
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Jul 13, 2022 • 37min

How An Academic Changed Corporate Tax Reporting. A Conversation with Dean Lilian Mills on the Creation of Schedule M3.

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss the creation of schedule M3 with Lillian Mills, Dean of the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin. Lil was instrumental in the creation of schedule M-3, which is form filed with the IRS that reconciles taxable income to financial accounting income.  We talk about the opportunities that exist for academics, policymakers, and regulators to work together, and the unique environment that led to the creation of the M3. We also discuss some recent policy proposals that would impose tax on financial accounting income.
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Jun 30, 2022 • 32min

Anti Progressive Taxation

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss some of the prominent arguments against progressive taxation.
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Jun 22, 2022 • 35min

Taxing Churches with Lloyd Mayer

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss the tax status of churches in the U.S. with Lloyd Mayer, Professor of Law at Notre Dame University.  We discuss the basics of tax law as it pertains to Churches. We also discuss special tax benefits that apply to ministers and other church employees. We consider the tradeoffs that exist between providing churches with tax benefits and relying on them to provide certain types of public goods and services vs taxing churches and relying on the government to provide those goods and services.
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Jun 15, 2022 • 28min

Why Administrative Law is Way More Important than You Thought! A conversation with Andy Grewal.

Send us a textScott and Jeff ask Andy Grewal to describe administrative law, and why it is so important for taxes. We discuss how significant portions of tax laws are left to interpretation by the IRS or Treasury, and how these interpretations can have a material effect on the experience of taxpayers.
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Jun 9, 2022 • 35min

How Much Income do Firms Shift to Tax Havens? A Conversation w/Jennifer Blouin.

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss income shifting by multinational corporations with Jennifer Blouin. We talk about Jennifer's research that suggests some estimates of the amount of tax revenue the U.S. loses to income shifting are as much as ten times too large. These estimates are important because they drive policy discussions, including debates in the U.S. about tax reform, and abroad, through the OECD and other organizations. The conversation builds on some of Jennifer's recent work related to income shifting, including a paper entitled "Double Counting Accounting: How Much Profit of Multinational Enterprises Is Really in Tax Havens?" available here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3491451.
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Jun 1, 2022 • 33min

Professor Arthur Laffer on His Curve

Arthur Laffer, a renowned economist and creator of the Laffer Curve, dives into the relationship between tax rates and revenue. He shares the iconic story of sketching the curve on a napkin, illustrating its profound impact on tax policy. The discussion covers the unintended consequences of high tax rates on work incentives and argues for lower taxes to boost economic activity. Laffer also tackles the complexities of unrealized income taxation and its implications for wealth disparity, advocating for a simplified tax system to promote fairness and growth.
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May 25, 2022 • 32min

Taxing Robots w/Rita de la Feria

Send us a textScott and Jeff are joined by Rita de la Feria @delaFeriaR to discuss her new paper (co-authored with Maria Amparo Grau Ruiz) called "Taxing Robots".  The abstract of her paper reads in part: "In recent years, the idea of taxing robots has been progressively gaining momentum. The potential impact of automation on employment, and consequently on income tax revenues, has led many to defend the introduction of a tax on robots, or on the use of robots, to either compensate for the potential revenue loss, or to slow down the process of automation. This paper argues that whilst automation presents significant challenges to tax systems, the introduction of a new tax on robots –or on their use– is not an effective mechanism through which to address these challenges." We discuss the idea of taxing robots, whether the tax is different from a tax on other types of capital investment, the behavioral motivations for a desire to tax robots, and other issues.
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May 18, 2022 • 34min

Was Trump's Tax Reform Effective?

Send us a textScott and Jeff discuss whether the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) was effective. Often referred to as the Trump tax cuts, or the Trump Tax Reform, recent commentators have argued that it was highly effective. For example, Tyler Goodspeed and Kevin Hassett argued in the Wall Street Journal the TCJA "delivered as promised" by increasing investment, wages, and government revenues. Academic research, however, paints a more nuanced picture. Jeff keeps a list of academic studies that evaluate different aspects of the TCJA on the UNC Tax Center website called The TCJA Effects Tracker. We discuss why articles in the popular press that claim victory or defeat are almost always oversimplified.

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