

The National Security Podcast
ANU National Security College
Expert analysis, insights and opinion on the national security challenges facing Australia and the Indo-Pacific. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 43min
The evolution of strategic deterrence
Fiona Cunningham, a Political Science expert at the University of Pennsylvania, and Aaron Bateman, a historian at George Washington University, dive into the evolution of strategic deterrence. They unravel the concept of 'strategic substitution' and discuss China's innovative approach to deterrence. The conversation highlights the U.S.'s 'Golden Dome' missile defense system, and whether Australia should boost its capabilities in response to China's military modernization. Their insights explore the intersection of technology, national security, and historical crises.

Aug 14, 2025 • 43min
Partners with limits: inside the China–Russia relationship
How aligned are China and Russia's strategic interests? How is this relationship playing out in relation to competing spheres of influence in Central Asia? What are the key points of friction in the China-Russia partnership? In this episode, Dilnoza Ubaydullaeva and Graham Meehan join Sally Bulkeley to delve into the complex dynamics of the China-Russia relationship, exploring the alignment and divergence of their strategic interests.Dr Dilnoza Ubaydullaeva is a Lecturer at the ANU National Security College (NSC).Graham Meehan is a former diplomat, including having served overseas as the Australian Ambassador to Russia and Deputy Head of Mission in Beijing.Sally Bulkeley is Deputy Head of College at NSC, on secondment from the Department of Defence. TRANSCRIPT Show notes NSC academic programs – find out more We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 7, 2025 • 52min
PM Albanese's China visit and the future of the Aus-China relationship
How has the Australia-China relationship changed since the Prime Minister’s last visit to China in 2023? From China's perspective, how does its relationship with Australia fit into its current worldview? And how has US policy under Trump impacted that relationship? What does the future hold for the Australia-China relationship, given China’s increasingly assertive foreign and strategic policies? In this episode, Rowan Callick and Will Glasgow join Susan Dietz to unpack PM Anthony Albanese’s recent visit to China and the complexities of navigating the Australia–China relationship.Rowan Callick OBE is an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College (NSC). He is an experienced journalist with extensive China and other Indo-Pacific expertise. Will Glasgow is The Australian’s North Asia Correspondent, now based in Beijing. He has lived and reported from Beijing and Taipei since 2020. Susan Dietz is Senior Executive Advisor, China at NSC. TRANSCRIPT Show notes NSC academic programs – study with us We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 31, 2025 • 52min
How can we avoid conflict in our region?
What are some of the key mechanisms for avoiding conflict? Why is ASEAN a key player in preventive diplomacy in the Indo-Pacific region? What challenges are faced in trying to prevent conflict in the region? And what role does Australia play? In this episode, Bec Strating, Huong Le Thu and Collin Koh join Rory Medcalf to delve into the complexities of conflict prevention in the Indo-Pacific region, emphasising the role of ASEAN, Australia and other partners.Rebecca (Bec) Strating FAIIA is the Director of La Trobe Asia and Professor of International Relations at La Trobe University. She is also an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College (NSC).Dr Huong Le Thu is Deputy Director of Asia at the International Crisis Group – a conflict prevention organisation. She is also an Expert Associate at NSC.Dr Collin Koh is Senior Fellow at the Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies and an Expert Associate at NSC.Professor Rory Medcalf AM FAIIA is Head of NSC. His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.TRANSCRIPTShow notes· NSC academic programs – study with us· Preventing conflict in our region: options for Australian statecraft· ASEAN Community Vision 2045· COLREGSWe'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 24, 2025 • 40min
Unpacking the Australia-US relationship with “our man in Washington”
Is America retreating from global leadership? Is this just a temporary wave of tension in the bilateral relationship, or might it signal a broader, long-term shift? Are the current AUKUS debates in Australia cutting through in the US? In this episode, John Blaxland joins David Andrews to discuss Australia’s relationship with the US, and why he believes we’re well placed to withstand the instabilities of Trump’s second term in office. John Blaxland is Director of the North America Liaison Office and Professor of International Security and Intelligence Studies at The Australian National University. David Andrews is Senior Manager, Policy & Engagement at the ANU National Security CollegeTRANSCRIPT Show notes Nuclear Matters podcast The Secret Cold War: The Official History of ASIO, 1975-1989 by John Blaxland and Rhys Crawley Australia’s American Alliance edited by Peter J Dean, Stephan Frühling & Brendan Taylor More from the National Security Podcast on this topic: Security in transition: Trump’s America, alliances, and global stability We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 17, 2025 • 47min
A decade at the helm: in conversation with Rory Medcalf
How has Australia’s security landscape changed over the last decade? How was the Indo-Pacific concept born, and how has it evolved? What are the biggest threats facing Australia right now? In this episode, Rory Medcalf joins David Andrews to look back on the past decade in which he has served as Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). They discuss the evolution of global threats over this period and how NSC has shifted its work to respond. Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of NSC. His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia. David Andrews is Senior Manager, Policy & Engagement at NSC TRANSCRIPT Show notes Nuclear Matters podcast ANU National Security College initiatives NSC Community Consultations Contest for the Indo-Pacific: Why China Won’t Map the Future Senator the Hon Marise Payne, then Minister for Foreign Affairs, and Senator the Hon Penny Wong, then Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs launch Contest for the Indo-Pacific Professor Medcalf’s first speech at NSC, March 2015 Speech: Mapping our Indo-Pacific future, June 2018 Speech: Making sense of national security, December 2022 Speech: Australian resilience and preparedness in the new world disorder, May 2025 We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 10, 2025 • 35min
Nuclear flashpoint: Iran strikes, non-proliferation, and future threats
What impact will US and Israeli air strikes on Iran have on global non-proliferation efforts? How is Trump reshaping the US's leadership in nuclear non-proliferation? Could shifting international security dynamics encourage countries like South Korea or Japan to pursue nuclear weapons programs? In this episode, Michael Cohen and Maria Rost Rublee join David Andrews to discuss how recent strikes on Iran have brought nuclear non-proliferation back to the forefront of international policy debates.Michael Cohen is Associate Professor and Academic Director at the ANU National Security College (NSC)Maria Rost Rublee is Professor of International Relations at the University of Melbourne and an Executive Committee member of Women in Nuclear-AustraliaDavid Andrews is Senior Manager, Policy & Engagement at NSCTRANSCRIPTShow notes Nuclear Matters podcastTreaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT)Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW)International Atomic Energy AgencyNuclear Suppliers Group Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 3, 2025 • 48min
Disasters, distrust, and disinformation
Join Anthony Bradstreet, a seasoned expert in Australian emergency management, Jodie Wrigley, a strategic communication advisor with the UN, and Allison Curtis from the Strong Cities Network as they delve into the disruptive role of misinformation during crises. They explore how disinformation complicates disaster response, sharing global examples like the Greece wildfires. The conversation highlights innovative strategies for community resilience and emphasizes the need for effective communication to rebuild trust in times of chaos.

Jun 26, 2025 • 53min
Iran, Israel and the future of Middle East security
Where do the other Middle East countries and the Gulf nations stand on the Iran-Israel conflict? How do they view the US’ changing foreign policy? What were the motivations behind the recent US and Israeli attacks on Iran? Was it preventive or pre-emptive action? Is regime change in Iran a realistic objective by Israel/US? Could Australia be asked to support future US military or strategic actions in the region? In this episode, Jessie Moritz and Ian Parmeter join David Andrews in discussion about the unfolding conflicts in the Middle East and their consequences for the future of regional and global security. Dr Jessie Moritz is a Senior Lecturer at the ANU Centre for Arabic and Islamic Studies.Ian Parmeter is a research scholar and PhD candidate at the ANU Centre for Arab and Islamic Studies.David Andrews is the Senior Manager, Policy & Engagement at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPT Show notes NSC academic programs – find out more Ian Parmeter: The US has entered the Israel-Iran war. Here are 3 scenarios for what might happen nextIan Parmeter: Netanyahu has two war aims: destroying Iran’s nuclear program and regime change. Are either achievable?Jessie Moritz: A shaky ceasefire; where now for Iran's leadership? And Stan Grant's new life on countryJessie Moritz: Australia's Iran fallout warning despite uneasy truceAbraham AccordsUSAIDUNRWA – United Nations Relief Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near EastJCPOA – Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 19, 2025 • 45min
The trans-Tasman alliance: strengthening Australia-NZ security ties
What is the ‘foreign policy reset’ undertaken by New Zealand’s National government, and how does it differ from the previous Labour government’s approach? How can New Zealand and Australia strengthen their alliance to face shared security challenges, amidst US uncertainty and strategic competition with China? How have recent Chinese activities in the Tasman Sea and the wider Pacific been viewed in New Zealand compared to Australia? What impact are these activities having on New Zealanders’ perceptions of China? In this episode, David Capie and Nicholas Khoo join David Andrews to unpack New Zealand’s shifting foreign and defence policy, its approach to China, AUKUS, and its relationship with Australia. Professor David Capie is Director of the Centre for Strategic Studies and Professor of International Relations at Victoria University of Wellington. Dr Nicholas Khoo is an Associate Professor of International Politics at the University of Otago. David Andrews is Senior Manager, Policy & Engagement at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPT Show notes NSC academic programs – find out more NZ 2025 Defence Capability Plan New Zealand's National Security Strategy FPDA – Five Power Defence Arrangements CPTPP – The Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.