
The Customer Success Playbook
Welcome to “The Customer Success Playbook,” a fresh podcast initiative spearheaded by Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon. Immerse yourself with us in the dynamic realm of customer success, where we unravel the latest insights, inspirations, and wisdom from recognized leaders in the Customer Success domain.Our journey began with a simple yet profound belief: that meaningful conversations can significantly impact our professional trajectory. With this ethos, we’ve embarked on a mission to bring to you the voices of seasoned and revered professionals in the field. Our episodes have seen the likes of Sue Nabeth Moore, Greg Daines, Jeff Heclker, James Scott, David Ellin, and David Jackson, who have generously shared their expertise on a variety of pertinent topics.We’ve delved into the intricacies of Profit and Loss Statements in Customer Success with Dave Jacksson, explored the potential of Customer Success Platforms with Dave Ellin, and unravelled the role of AI in Customer Success with all guests. With Sue, we navigated the waters of Organizational Alignment, while Greg brought to light strategies for Reducing Churn. Not to be missed is James insightful discourse on the Current Trends in Customer Success and Jeff’s thoughts on Service Delivery in CS.Each episode is crafted with the intention to ignite curiosity and foster a culture of continuous learning and improvement among customer success professionals. Our discussions transcend the conventional, probing into the proactive approach, and the evolving landscape of customer success.Whether you’re a seasoned veteran or a newcomer to the industry, our goal is to propel your customer success prowess to greater heights. The rich tapestry of topics we cover ensures there’s something for everyone, from the fundamentals to the advanced strategies that shape the modern customer success playbook.Our upcoming episodes promise a wealth of knowledge with topics like CS Math, Training, AI, Getting hired in CS, and CS Tool reviews, ensuring our listeners stay ahead of the curve in this fast-evolving field. The roadmap ahead is laden with engaging dialogues with yet more industry mavens, aimed at equipping you with the acumen to excel in your customer success journey.At “The Customer Success Playbook,” our zeal for aiding others and disseminating our expertise to the community fuels our endeavor. Embark on this enlightening voyage with us, and escalate your customer success game to unparalleled levels.Join us on this quest for knowledge, engage with a community of like-minded professionals, and elevate your customer success game to the next level. Your journey towards mastering customer success begins here, at “The Customer Success Playbook.” Keep On Playing!!
Latest episodes

Feb 13, 2024 • 35min
Customer Success Playbook Season 2 Episode 5 - An Onboarding Discussion with Melissa Caldwell of Fluxx
Send us a textIn this episode of the Customer Success Playbook Podcast, hosts Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger delve into the intricacies of customer onboarding and success strategies with Melissa Caldwell, Vice President of Customer Onboarding and Success at Fluxx, a SaaS grants management platform. The discussion covers the transformative journey Fluxx embarked on to enhance their customer onboarding process, ensuring quicker time to value and a more personalized approach to meet diverse customer needs.Detailed Analysis:Melissa Caldwell shared insights into Fluxx's strategic overhaul of its onboarding process, emphasizing the move from a one-size-fits-all approach to a more structured, best practice-led methodology. By introducing tiered onboarding packages, Fluxx addresses the unique needs of its clients, ranging from quick starts to comprehensive, year-long engagements. This customization has allowed Fluxx to streamline processes, improve efficiency, and maintain high customer satisfaction while managing resources effectively.A key takeaway from the conversation is the importance of setting clear expectations early in the customer journey, from the sales process to onboarding and beyond. Caldwell highlights the integration of onboarding leaders into the sales process to facilitate a seamless transition for customers, ensuring alignment on objectives, timelines, and required resources.The podcast also explores the role of technology in enhancing the onboarding experience, with specific mentions of tools like Rocket Lane for project management and Pendo for in-product guidance. These tools, alongside a focus on metrics such as utilization rates and scope adherence, have been instrumental in driving Fluxx's onboarding success.Business-Relevant Insights:Fluxx's experience underscores the significance of a tailored onboarding process in customer success strategies. For businesses looking to enhance their customer onboarding, key strategies include:Customized Onboarding Packages: Tailoring the onboarding experience to different customer needs can significantly improve time to value and customer satisfaction.Early and Clear Communication: Integrating onboarding perspectives early in the sales process and maintaining clear communication throughout can help manage expectations and foster a positive customer relationship.Leveraging Technology: Utilizing project management and in-product guidance tools can streamline onboarding processes and improve team efficiency.Continuous Improvement: Regularly reviewing and adjusting onboarding processes based on customer feedback and implementation retrospectives can drive ongoing improvements.You can also find Fluxx's podcast here.And visit their website at Fluxx.ioKevin's offeringPlease Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.

Feb 6, 2024 • 8min
February 2024 Pregame show: Navigating the Onboarding Maze
Send us a textIn this episode of the Customer Success Playbook Podcast, Roman Trebon and Kevin Metzger delve into the critical topic of customer onboarding. They highlight the significance of this initial stage in a client's lifecycle, emphasizing the potential pitfalls and the importance of a smooth onboarding experience. The dialogue touches on common onboarding challenges, recounting anecdotes of less-than-ideal scenarios. The discussion progresses to explore the potential for standardized processes to enhance the onboarding journey, ensuring a consistent and positive experience. Special mention is made of Melissa Caldwell from Flocks, whose expertise in tailoring onboarding strategies to diverse client needs promises valuable insights. The conversation also addresses the operational aspects of onboarding, such as resource allocation and capacity management, suggesting the exploration of automated solutions to scale operations effectively.1. The Importance of First Impressions:The initial onboarding phase sets the tone for the client's entire journey. A negative experience can sour the relationship, making recovery and trust-building an uphill battle. It's vital to prioritize a smooth, positive onboarding process that aligns with the excitement and expectations set during the sales phase.2. Leveraging Technology and Automation:The discussion around automated onboarding and scaling operations highlights the potential of technology in streamlining processes. Efficient resource allocation and capacity management are crucial for handling multiple clients with varying timelines. Automation can play a pivotal role in standardizing certain aspects of onboarding, freeing up human resources for more complex, personalized tasks.3. Integration of Customer Success and Onboarding:The conversation suggests a trend towards closer integration between customer success and onboarding teams. This alignment is essential as both teams work towards a common goal – guiding the customer from the initial value realization to consistent achievement of their objectives. Recognizing the interconnectedness of these functions can lead to more cohesive strategies and improved customer outcomes.4. Metrics and Continuous Improvement:The emphasis on using metrics and tools for refining onboarding processes is crucial. Continuous monitoring and evaluation allow for the identification of bottlenecks and the implementation of improvements. This data-driven approach ensures that the onboarding process evolves in line with client feedback and changing market dynamics.Please Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.

Jan 30, 2024 • 14min
Post Game - Navigating the First 90 Days as a Customer Success Leader
Send us a textIn this episode of the Customer Success Playbook, Kevin and Roman discuss the topic for January: Navigating the First 90 Days as a Customer Success Leader. This month they talked with Marcus Vasell and discussed his Customer Success Maturity model in their interview. Reviewing how an organization moves from Crawl to Run across it's processess, People and technology. Kevin and Roman also discussed the article they published Navigating the First 90 Days as a Customer Success Leader: A Strategic Playbook for Startups and Mid-Size CompaniesThe article is broken down into:First 30 Days - Knowledge Collection: Dive deep into your company's products, services, and customer needs. Establish a foundation for informed decision-making.Days 31-60 - Strategy Development: Analyze the gathered data to form robust CS strategies, focusing on customer segmentation, journey mapping, and team organization.Days 61-90 - Execution and Future Planning: Implement strategies with a clear vision, ensuring scalability and adaptability for the CS team.✨ The guide emphasizes the importance of continuous improvement and adaptation in the ever-evolving business landscape. It's not just about strategies but also about building relationships and understanding customer needs.Learn more about it in this podcast and check out the article here. Please Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.

Jan 16, 2024 • 37min
Customer Success Playbook Season 2 Episode - Marcus Vassell - Evaluating the Maturity of a CS Organization
Marcus Vassell discusses a three-stage model to assess customer success maturity: Crawl, Walk, Run. Importance of executive buy-in and cross-functional collaboration highlighted. Transition from product-focused to customer-centric approach emphasized.

Jan 9, 2024 • 9min
Customer Success Playbook Season 2 Episode 1 - January 2024 Pre Game - 30/60/90 Day Plan
Marcus Vasselle, author of the customer success maturity model, discusses the 30/60/90 day plan when entering a company. They explore the crawl walk run model of customer success and evaluate people, processes, and technology in the first 30 days. They use a framework to identify areas of improvement.

Dec 19, 2023 • 35min
Customer Success Playbook Episode 15 - EOY Wrap Up 2023- Kevin and Roman
Kevin Metzger and Roman Trebon reflect on the past year of the podcast, discussing favorite guests and lessons learned. They emphasize the importance of treating customer success as a business, implementing key takeaways, and delivering value. The speakers share predictions for 2024, highlighting the impact of AI and ML. They stress the need for customer success teams to shift from cost centers to revenue generators.

Dec 12, 2023 • 53min
Customer Success Playbook Postgame - Andrew Marks - Customer Success Certification
Andrew Marks, an expert in customer success certification and professional development, discusses the value of certifications in customer success and the impact of training on career growth. They also explore the role of AI in knowledge workers and the key skills needed for customer success. The guest shares personal travel experiences and promotes their website, Success Coaching.

Dec 5, 2023 • 53min
Customer Success Playbook Episode 14 - Andrew Marks - Customer Success Certification
Andrew Marks, professional development and global impact, discusses the value of customer success certification and the role of Success Hacker. The conversation explores various training programs and methodologies, integration of customer success into sales processes, the demands of the subscription economy, and the impact of AI. Key skills for customer success include active listening, empathy, technical knowledge, and data analysis. The episode also includes rapid fire questions and information about training programs.

Nov 14, 2023 • 34min
Customer Success Playbook Episode 13 - Emilia D'Anzica - AI in CS
Send us a textThis episod of the Customer Success Playbook podcast focuses on how AI is transforming customer success. Emilia from Growht Molocules talks about, how AI platforms can aggregate data to build more insightful executive business reviews. Help with training, by giving feedback to help CS teams improve. She also discusses how AI helps with customer communications, by enabling personalization, pulling in account data, and even automating messages.Some of the key insights are:The podcast focuses on how AI is transforming customer success, especially around onboarding, education, outreach, and retention.Tools like Update AI help capture meeting info, provide transcripts and next steps to boost CS team efficiency.AI platforms like Maddock can aggregate data to build executive business reviews with new insights.AI can help provide training feedback to CS teams on areas to improve like keywords missed or voice delivery.AI enables personalization even in automated communications by pulling in account data.Pitfalls when implementing AI include poor rollout, lack of communication on its purpose, and unclear roles. Reflection and iteration are key.AI allows CSMs to spend less time on repetitive tasks and more on using data strategically.Important AI voices highlighted are leaders at Update AI, Mira Murati of ChatGPT, and CS platform companies incorporating AI.Data privacy, mental health support, ethics and human-centric AI are important considerations for the future.Find out more about Emilia and her company at https://growthmolecules.com/You can also access the white paper discussed in the Podcast at https://hubs.ly/Q0213rkj0Kevin's offeringPlease Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. You can also find the CS Playbook Podcast:YouTube - @CustomerSuccessPlaybookPodcastTwitter - @CS_PlaybookYou can find Kevin at:Metzgerbusiness.com - Kevin's person web siteKevin Metzger on Linked In.You can find Roman at:Roman Trebon on Linked In.

Nov 7, 2023 • 9min
Customer Success Playbook - Carly Agar - PostGame - Job Hunt in Customer Success
Seasoned career coach, Carly Agar, shares valuable insights on job hunting in customer success, including networking techniques, personal branding strategies, and AI in job searches. She also discusses the importance of staying informed about industry trends and resources for a successful job search. Plus, tips on managing job search-related stress and finding support during a career transition.