

Trust vs.
HITRUST Alliance
Trust in cybersecurity is an ever-changing journey — hard to gain and easy to lose.
Join us in the meaningful conversations that disrupt conventional thinking about trust in cybersecurity risk management — exploring disruptive technologies and proven approaches that create confidence.
Each episode, we explore the challenges we share with industry experts and insiders, exploring the challenging questions questions about what it means to organizations to constantly improve the state of their security, how to tackle the inherent risks of AI while focusing on business value delivery, how risk transfer factors into a modern cyber risk management strategy, and more. For cybersecurity professionals, business leaders, and the companies that make up the digital delivery system we all share, if you’re facing these questions in your business, Trust vs. is for you.
Brought to you by HITRUST.
Join us in the meaningful conversations that disrupt conventional thinking about trust in cybersecurity risk management — exploring disruptive technologies and proven approaches that create confidence.
Each episode, we explore the challenges we share with industry experts and insiders, exploring the challenging questions questions about what it means to organizations to constantly improve the state of their security, how to tackle the inherent risks of AI while focusing on business value delivery, how risk transfer factors into a modern cyber risk management strategy, and more. For cybersecurity professionals, business leaders, and the companies that make up the digital delivery system we all share, if you’re facing these questions in your business, Trust vs. is for you.
Brought to you by HITRUST.
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Jul 25, 2024 • 38min
We Promise This Episode on Insurance Is Interesting
In a world full of digital threats, even the best cybersecurity can’t eliminate residual risk. That's where cyber insurance steps in. But securing it is no easy task, even for the most prepared organizations.In this episode, we are joined by Josh Ladeau, CEO of Trium Cyber and Sidney Prasse and Michael Giuliano from McGill and Partners to discuss the current state of cybersecurity insurance. Discover how security leaders, risk managers, brokers and underwriters are partnering to navigate this tricky terrain and how organizations like HITRUST are leading the charge to simplify the process and emphasize the critical role of assurance.Meet Sidney: https://mcgillpartners.com/team?member=2021Meet Josh: https://triumcyber.com/our-team/Meet Michael: https://mcgillpartners.com/team?member=1646Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Jul 11, 2024 • 37min
AI Is Not a Strategy
We’re kicking off season 2 with a familiar face: Omar Khawaja is back to discuss how generative AI technology is impacting business governance and security leadership. Like other technologies, AI poses significant risk management challenges, but how can we better understand these systems to protect against them? Omar joins Robert and Jeremy to highlight the difference between understanding the business value created by AI over simply an AI strategy, the importance of defining the components that make up an AI system, the challenges security leaders face in engaging on AI initiatives, and advocating for integrating security expertise to ensure the safe and effective adoption of AI technologies.Meet Omar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smallersecurity?Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Jun 13, 2024 • 1min
Trust Vs: Season 2
Join hosts Robert Booker and Jeremy Huval as they explore the critical importance of trust in cybersecurity in a whole new season of Trust Vs brought to you by HITRUST Alliance. This season, we’ll be speaking with industry experts to discuss the challenges and opportunities of artificial intelligence, cyber insurance, and emerging technologies.Tune in to learn strategies for building and maintaining trust in the digital age, all while navigating the evolving world of cybersecurity with confidence.

May 23, 2024 • 36min
Rebuilding Trust After The Latest Breach – a Trust vs. special episode
We’re back with a special episode, recording in the midst of the largest breach in the American Healthcare industry. With this event, there has been a lot of concern and loss of trust in the systems that we put in place to keep us and our data secure. So how can we start to rebuild trust and confidence that we can better prepare for these attacks in the future? HITRUST CMO Steve Perkins joins the podcast to interview Trust Vs hosts Robert Booker and Jeremy Huval to unpack everything we have learned so far and why we should be focusing on cybersecurity assurance moving forward. Meet Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-perkins-1604b31/Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/Please consider rating and reviewing Trust vs. if you enjoyed this episode.

Sep 28, 2023 • 31min
Trust vs. AI
In the final episode of Season 1, Jeremy and Robert look into the future of cybersecurity, assurance and compliance. Listen to a collection of this season’s guests about their predictions for the future and how disruptive technologies like AI will shake up the industry. Find out how to maintain trust in this era of technology, and uncover how it might impact you and your business. Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Sep 14, 2023 • 29min
Trust vs. Enterprise Risk
Hosts Jeremy and Robert are joined by George DeCesare, Chief Technology Risk Officer at Kaiser Permanente, to discuss enterprise risk. George has the rare mix of skills of being both a lawyer and a cyber security expert and has also worked with the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department. All of this experience makes for a great conversation about managing risk at complex organizations, and how risk management ties into the larger value creation of an organization. Meet George: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jorge-d-decesare-mba-jd-cism-8501694Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Sep 7, 2023 • 33min
Trust vs. Third Parties
In this episode, hosts Jeremy and Robert sit down with Omar Khawaja. Omar is an experienced CISO and cybersecurity professional. He is the Field CISO at Databricks and a HITRUST Board Member. He joins this episode to discuss third-party risk, and how to set the security bar with your vendors. Throughout the episode, Omar stresses the importance of effective communication when it comes to security assessments and reports, and also dives into how to properly assess the risk levels of vendors. Meet Omar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smallersecurity?Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Aug 25, 2023 • 28min
Trust vs. The Board
How can cyber security leaders effectively communicate with the board? In this episode of Trust vs, hosts Jeremy and Robert are joined by not one, but two guests to help unpack that question. Chris Hetner formerly worked for the SEC and is a leader in cybersecurity who is an expert in raising the visibility of cyber risk to the board. Kevin Charest is board member and CTO at HITRUST who has been on both sides of that question. Their diverse perspectives on communicating with C-level executives create a well-rounded and must listen episode for all cyber security leaders. Meet Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-hetner-7969758Meet Kevin https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevincharestMeet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/

Aug 3, 2023 • 40min
Trust vs. Breaches
Breaches is a scary word in the cybersecurity world, but one that is top of mind for security leaders. In this episode of Trust vs, Jeremy and Robert chat with Chief Information Security Officer at ASG, John Overbaugh. They discuss strategies for managing breaches, how and how to communicate with the rest of the organization and the public, and what role AI plays in breaches. Prepare for an enlightening conversation that promises to empower and inform!Meet John: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnoverbaughMeet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/Please consider rating and reviewing Trust vs. if you enjoyed this episode.

Jul 20, 2023 • 27min
Trust vs. Cloud
Welcome back to Trust vs! In this episode, join Jeremy and Robert as they interview Gerry Miller, Founder & CEO of Cloudticity. Gerry has 30 years of experience in the industry across a range of companies, and now heads Cloudticity, a cloud management solution for healthcare. They discuss the many benefits of cloud- greater agility, productivity and the ability to experiment, and also how organizations and CISOs can ensure that they have robust systems in place to ensure the cloud is secure. Tune in to discover how the cloud has changed the cyber security landscape, and what's to come in the future. Meet Gerry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrymillerMeet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuvalMeet Robert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/Please consider rating and reviewing Trust vs. if you enjoyed this episode.