

Now We’re Talking
Sarah Rozenthuler
Conversations that explore what it takes to talk about what really matters so that leaders can create positive change in their organisations and the wider world.
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Jun 23, 2025 • 43min
Episode 9: The Happiness Hack: Curating Caring Conversations
In this episode, Sarah and Klaudia discuss (1) what happiness is; (2) how we can grow our happiness through cultivating 'happiness habits'; (3) how to manage destructive self-talk and stop ruminating before a difficult conversation; and (4) how to develop a toolkit so that your happiness doesn't depend on any person, place or thing exterior to you.
About Klaudia Mitura
Klaudia is the author of the book "The Alphabet of Happiness: Create more happiness at work, in relationships and in your own skin" (publication date: September 2025.)
Klaudia is a work psychologist and the Learning and Development Manager at the Science Museum Group. For the last twelve years, she's been applying scientific research on employee engagement to design and implement energetic, creative and data-driven programmes to empower individuals to be at their best at work.
During a difficult time in 2020, Klaudia started “The Happiness Challenge” podcast with a mission to interview leading wellbeing experts and test-drive the best happiness hacks that science has on offer.

May 29, 2025 • 53min
Episode 8: Being a Resilient, Responsive and Resourced Leader
In this episode, Sarah discusses with Alexandra Pope and Sjanie Hugo Wurlitzer, authors of Wise Power and Wild Power, (1) why cyclical awareness is an under-utilised resource that builds resilience in leaders, (2) how to pick your moment for a courageous conversation (3) how leader is able to be responsive by setting boundaries and standing their ground and (4) how to start a fresh chapter by staying true to you.
Sarah, Alexandra and Sjanie also discuss what leaders can learn from moving beyond politeness into a real conversation where everyone leaves feeling seen and heard.
About Alexandra Pope and Sjanie Hugo Wurlitzer
Alexandra Pope and Sjanie Hugo Wurlitzer are founders of Red School and co-authors of Wild Power: Discover the Magic of the Menstrual Cycle and Awaken The Feminine Path to Power. They are the creators of the Menstruality Medicine Circle™, a brand new healing modality.
For more information, please go to:
https://www.redschool.net

Feb 12, 2025 • 34min
Episode 7: Building the Muscles of Love
In this episode, Sarah discusses with Anne Power, author of Contented Couples and a couples therapist (1) why couples who learn how to navigate conflict strengthen their relationship, (2) how healthy couples repair after a rupture (3) what a difference it makes when a couple has a learning-together orientation and (4) how a long-term contented relationship is achievable for most of us if we’re willing to do our work and play our part in making authentic dialogue happen.
Sarah and Anne also discuss what leaders can learn from couples and the critical communication skills needed in perhaps the highest stakes context of them all: our intimate relationship.
About Anne Power
Anne is a couple therapist based in London UK, working online with couples and supervisees. She started her counselling work thirty years ago and originally worked with clients in the NHS and in voluntary settings. Anne has trained counsellors, psychotherapists and supervisors and written various books and papers, including Contented Couples (2022.) Anne has a special interest in attachment theory and integrates this with a systemic model in her psychotherapeutic work.
For more information, please go to
https://www.contentedcouples.com
To find out more about Anne’s book, Contented Couples, go to:
https://bit.ly/4b1NbhJ
To watch Anne's TEDx talk, 'Attachment theory is the science of love', go to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9idayJyWCWs

Jan 27, 2025 • 36min
Episode 6: 'Where did you learn to behave like that?'
In this episode, Sarah discusses with Dr Sarah Hill (1) why understanding our ‘childhood story’ unlocks stuck behaviour patterns in leaders (2) what a childhood story is (3) how we can start to notice in a high stakes situation that our childhood story has become activated, and (4) what we can do to create a new narrative so that we expand our behavioural repertoire and instead of a dialogue derailing, we can discuss what matters most.
About Dr Sarah Hill
Sarah is an expert dialogue facilitator and ‘Structural Dynamics Interventionist’ with individuals, teams and across whole systems. She coaches CEOs and senior leaders from different cultures and countries, within large and small, corporate and not-for-profit organisations to lead powerful and productive conversations.
Sarah is the author of Where Did You Learn To Behave Like That? Behind every leader’s behaviour is a childhood story that can be a force for good, but also has the potential to wreak havoc, particularly when under pressure. Sarah is also co-author of ‘The Tao of Dialogue’ and a new journal, ‘Dare to…’ which was published in 2020. Sarah has taught at the Saïd Business School, Harvard Business School, Henley Business School and Ashridge and has been visiting Professor at William James College, Boston MA. She also teaches on the Senior Faith in Leadership programme at Windsor Castle and has facilitated deep inter-faith dialogues.
For more information, please go to
https://dialogix.co.uk

Nov 22, 2024 • 34min
Episode 5: The Four Secrets to Navigating Difficult Conversations Successfully
Dive into the art of tough conversations with insights from a recent book launch. Discover the emotional challenges of these dialogues and the essential skills for effective communication. Learn four powerful secrets: preparing yourself, building rapport, reading group dynamics, and navigating conflicts with bravery. These strategies can transform your interactions, whether at work or in personal life. Explore how authentic purpose enhances communication in organizations and the evolving needs of leadership.

Sep 29, 2024 • 44min
Episode 4: Moving beyond inner criticism with Dr Claus Springborg
In this episode, Sarah and Claus discuss (1) what inner criticism is (2) how we can detect inner criticism starting to operate inside us and (3) how we can manage this mechanism so that it no longer shuts down our dialogue but strengthens us to talk about what matters most.
About Claus
Dr. Claus Springborg is a thought leader in the field of leadership development and organizational change. Claus is an academic and practitioner who integrates his deep understanding of human consciousness with practical business insights. Claus is a lecturer at Copenhagen Business School with a PhD from Cranfield School of Management.
Claus is the author of several impactful books, including "Sensory Templates and Manager Cognition: Art, the Brain and Business," and "Art-Based Methods in Management Education." His work delves into how art and sensory awareness can transform leadership, helping managers become more attuned, effective, and innovative.
Claus is the founder of Sensing Mind Institute where he has over 10 years of experience teaching leadership and co-creation skills, management theory, systems of personal development, and entrepreneurship. Claus has spent years researching the inner landscape of leadership, focusing on how leaders can deal with their inner critic, improve dialogue, and create more meaningful connections with their teams. His unique approach combines insights from neuroscience, mindfulness, and creative practices with is wonderful sense of humour, making his teachings not only intellectually rigorous but also profoundly practical.
Find out more about Claus and his work at:
https://www.sensingmind.com/

Jul 30, 2024 • 43min
Episode 3: Make time to reflect with Pete Burden
Sarah and Pete Burden discuss (1) leading mindfully and the difference this makes; (2) cutting through power dynamics so that what needs to be discussed gets talked about; and (3) how to develop practices in teams and in your own leadership that foster reflection and a deeper level of noticing. We also reflect on what the growing movement of 'conscious business' means and share our hopeful aspirations for how leadership can change so that more people feel a sense of belonging at work.
About Pete Burden
Pete is the co-author of the book Leading Mindfully along with Professor Rob Warwick. Pete has over 30 years experience coaching teams, including senior leadership teams. He draws on a diverse set of leadership experiences, including being a manager at a Fortune 100 company; being an MD and a coach at the BBC. He’s also been the Executive Chairman of one of the UK's first social media agencies.
Pete is all about helping people build reflective, purposeful teams and brings a clear focus on being mindful and taking practical steps to try to bring about a fairer and kinder world. Pete hosts the podcast The Healthy Power Alliance podcast which is available on Spotify and Apple.

Jun 13, 2024 • 34min
Episode 2: The art of lingering in dialogue with Professor Reinhard Stelter
Reinhard Stelter (Professor of Sport & Coaching Psychology at University of Copenhagen in Denmark) and I discuss how dialogue is the art of opening up a reflective space, how listening is the most essential skill that a leader can bring to a conversation and how being attentive to yourself makes dialogue transformative for all. "In true dialogue, both sides are willing to change."
About Professor Reinhard Stelter
Reinhard is a renowned author, researcher and leading expert in coaching and dialogue. With over 20 years of experience in the field, Reinhard brings a wealth of knowledge and insights that have inspired countless coaches and practitioners around the world.
Reinhard is a Professor Sport & Coaching Psychology at University of Copenhagen in Denmark. He’s the author of several groundbreaking books, including his latest work, 'The Art of Dialogue in Coaching', which has been hailed as a must-read for anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of coaching dynamics and foster more meaningful conversations.
Reinhard can be contacted at: rstelter@nexs.ku.dk and via LinkedIn.

May 8, 2024 • 39min
Episode 1: Speak out, listen up with Megan Reitz
Sarah and Megan explore how leaders create spaces for conversations that matter by (1) deepening their listening so that team members speak up and real issues are discussed; (2) being aware of power dynamics and their impact on a conversation; (3) paying attention to the incoming tide of employee activism and the use of generative AI in organisations.
About Megan Reitz
Megan is Founder of Reitz Consulting, Associate Fellow at Saïd Business School, University of Oxford, and Adjunct Professor of Leadership and Dialogue at Hult Business School. She is listed on the Thinkers50 ranking of global management thinkers (and recently shortlisted for both the Radar and Breakthrough Idea Awards) and HR Magazine Most Influential Listing.
Megan writes, speaks and consults in the areas of leadership, dialogue, mindfulness, culture, change, coaching and team effectiveness. She is author of 'Mind Time' and 'Dialogue in Organizations' and co-author with John Higgins of 'Speak Up: Say what needs to be said and hear what needs to be heard' for Financial Times Publishing, which was shortlisted for CMI Management Book of the Year 2020. A second edition of this book hit the shelves in spring 2024 with the new title, 'Speak Out, Listen Up.'
Megan is a regular contributor to Harvard Business Review, which has covered many of the themes of her books, and her research has recently been featured in the MIT Sloan Management Review, in Forbes, on the BBC, in a TEDx talk, and in numerous academic and practice-based journals.
As well as her life as a lecturer, doctoral supervisor and business owner, Megan is mother to two wonderful daughters, who test her regularly on her powers of mindfulness and dialogue.
For more information, go to www.meganreitz.com