
ZenFounder
The ZenFounder podcast is a combination of interviews with successful entrepreneurs, conversations with experts, and honest reflections on entrepreneur life, focused on helping entrepreneurs practice better mental health. Forbes called it one of the 12 best podcasts for entrepreneurs.
Host, Dr. Sherry Walling, is a clinical psychologist, coach for entrepreneurs and startups, and best-selling author. She is an expert in trauma, stress and burnout, and her research has been published in academic journals such as the Journal of Traumatic Stress. She has also endured being married to a serial entrepreneur for 23 years.
Latest episodes

Jun 20, 2025 • 16min
Episode 409: How to Actually Integrate Psychedelic Insights into Daily Life
Entrepreneurs are keen to push themselves to grow and become the best version of themselves. As early adopters, they’re often open to immersive experiences that accelerate their personal and professional development.
But when it comes to non-ordinary state experiences like psychedelics, deep retreats, even personal breakthroughs, too many skip the most essential part: integration.
In this episode, Dr. Sherry Walling breaks down exactly what it means to integrate a transformative experience into your daily life. Whether you're navigating a psychedelic journey or simply returning from an immersive retreat, this conversation offers practical tips for slowing down, listening in, and making your growth real.
You'll learn:
How to decipher the kinds of “messages” you receive during a journey
How to build a 4-month plan around new values, habits, or intentions
Why busyness is the enemy of growth—and how to build in space for listening
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#EntrepreneurMentalHealth #Founders #Retreats #InnerWork #PersonalGrowth #Mindfulness #Psychedelics #Integration

Jun 13, 2025 • 18min
Episode 408: 5 Traits Entrepreneurs Share with Artists
Is Entrepreneurship a Creative Act?
In this episode, Dr. Sherry Walling shares what producing a full-scale circus show taught her about the creative process of entrepreneurship. From the vulnerability of putting your work in public to the emotional risk of innovation, Sherry explores how the mindset of an artist can unlock better products, deeper audience connection, and long-term fulfillment as a founder.
#Entrepreneurship #CreativeLeadership #MentalHealth #Startups #Founders #Vulnerability #CreatorEconomy

May 23, 2025 • 16min
Episode 407: Navigating Family Pain Without Shutting Down
Did you know that 27% of Americans are actively estranged from at least one family member?In a world where ideological division is high and screens are the most consistent recipient of our attention, our families are quietly fracturing.
In this special episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Sherry Walling reflects on the beautiful, painful, complicated terrain of family life.
Inside this episode:
– Why family can be our deepest source of pain—and our greatest opportunity for healing
– The psychological dynamics of individuation, estrangement, and reconciliation
– A radical practice for staying close: becoming a neutral observer
Whether you're in the thick of parenting, navigating loss, or redefining what family means to you, this episode is an invitation to reflect, feel, and begin again.
Learn more about the Familia circus show: https://www.touchingtwoworlds.com/familiaRead the book: https://www.touchingtwoworlds.com/free-chapters
Get support or connect with Sherry's team: https://www.zenfounder.com

May 16, 2025 • 13min
Episode 406: How to Reclaim Desire
Do you ever ask yourself what you really want?Not what’s profitable. Not what’s a good business decision. Not what’s righteous, or best for your team.
Just… what you want.
In this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Sherry Walling invites you into a deeply personal—and radically freeing—conversation about desire. As a founder or leader, you’ve been trained to prioritize discipline, service, and strategy. But too often, that comes at the cost of your own longing.
Inside this episode:
Why desire isn’t hedonism—it’s data
A framework for “desiring well”
The reason most humans fear giving in to desire
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May 9, 2025 • 20min
Episode 405: How to Regulate Big Emotions
Ever find yourself saying things you regret in the heat of the moment? Or spiraling after a client complaint, a bad email, or your kid melting down in public?
In this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Sherry Walling breaks down how high performers lose control of big emotions—and how to get it back.
Inside this episode: – What’s actually happening in your body when you get triggered – How to catch your reaction early—before your nervous system hijacks your behavior – Simple ways to calm your body fast (breathwork, water, scent, music) – What past experiences may be quietly running the show when you feel attacked or out of control
Whether you’re a founder, a parent, or both—this is the toolkit for staying regulated when life gets hard.

Apr 25, 2025 • 16min
Episode 404: How Founders Can Make Better Decisions: The Framework You Haven’t Tried
Do you ever feel like you’re at war with yourself?
One part of you wants to hustle, scale, dominate the market.Another part wants to sell the business, move to the woods, and sleep 10 hours a night.And then there’s the voice panicking about churn, cash flow, and that very unhappy customer email you can’t stop thinking about.
You're not broken. You're not alone. You're just... human.
In this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Sherry Walling introduces a powerful framework you probably haven’t tried: Internal Family Systems (IFS).
This psychological model helps founders better understand their competing inner voices—and make smarter, more aligned decisions.
Inside this episode: – Why some parts of you want to grow your business—and others want to burn it all down – The real reason ignoring your “inner child” can lead to burnout – How to recognize fear-based decision-making before it wrecks your strategy – A practical exercise to map your Internal Founder System
#FounderLife #Entrepreneurship #MentalHealth #LeadershipDevelopment #InternalFamilySystems #IFS #BusinessGrowth #DecisionMaking #StartupMindset #EmotionalIntelligence

Mar 28, 2025 • 14min
Episode 403: Feeling Alone in Business? How to Find Your People
Entrepreneurship is lonely—but it doesn’t have to be.
In this video, Dr. Sherry Walling dives into one of the most overlooked challenges in the entrepreneurial journey: finding your people.
Starting, growing, and even exiting a business can be incredibly isolating. That loneliness can quietly erode both your mental health and your ability to lead. In this episode, you'll learn:
The difference between networking and true friendship
Why proximity, attention, and shared play are essential to adult friendships
How relationships are foundational to both mental health and business success
Whether you’re craving deeper connections, wondering why your friendships feel thin, or simply looking to feel less alone in your work—this one’s for you.
Learn more about Sherry’s upcoming Touching Two Worlds: Familia circus show—an original performance about the power of relationships: www.touchingtwoworlds.com/upcoming-shows
Check Our Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation 2023 report here

Mar 21, 2025 • 19min
Episode 402: 5 Criticisms of Traditional Therapy
Is Traditional Therapy Failing Entrepreneurs?
Therapy is an invaluable tool—but is it always the best fit for high performers, founders, and creatives? In this episode, Dr. Sherry Walling shares her honest critique of traditional psychotherapy, highlighting five key concerns:
The Pathology Trap – Why therapy often focuses on diagnosing problems instead of amplifying strengths. It Takes Too Long – Why conventional therapy can be slow-moving and how alternative approaches, like psychedelics, may be more effective for rapid breakthroughs. Hyper-Focus on Hurt – How therapy can make people more sensitive to pain without equipping them to move forward. The Risk of Self-Absorption – When therapy over-validates personal experiences without placing them in a larger context of relationships and responsibilities. The Blank Slate Issue – Why it’s hard to trust guidance from someone who hasn’t been there—and what to look for in a mentor or therapist.
Therapy is an incredibly valuable resource, and working with a skilled therapist is highly recommended. In this episode, you’ll learn how to make sure you’re getting the most out of your time and financial investment.
If you’ve ever wondered whether therapy is truly helping you grow—or just keeping you stuck—this episode is for you.
Need support from a team that understands the unique mental health challenges of entrepreneurs? Reach out to us at zenfounder.com/contact
#Entrepreneurship #MentalHealth #Therapy #PersonalGrowth #FounderLife

Mar 14, 2025 • 19min
Episode 401: Why Founders FAIL at Asking for Help (And How to Fix It)
Entrepreneurs thrive on independence, resilience, and figuring things out on their own. But when it comes to launching a book, a product, or a business—going solo can actually hold you back.
Asking for help isn’t a weakness—it’s a growth strategy.
In this episode, Dr. Sherry Walling breaks down why founders struggle to ask for help, how to do it effectively, and why the success of your work depends on it.

Mar 7, 2025 • 20min
Episode 400: 7 Factors That Shape How You Feel About Your Exit
You’ve built something incredible. But when it’s time to sell, are you unknowingly making your exit harder than it needs to be?
Most founders focus on the financial side of an exit—negotiating terms, securing the best deal, maximizing their payout. But what about the psychological side? If you’re not prepared, selling your business can feel like losing a piece of yourself—leading to bad deals, self-sabotage, and regret.
In this episode, Dr. Sherry Walling, clinical psychologist and entrepreneur, breaks down seven factor that shape how you feel about an exit, including some common self-sabotage situations and how to avoid them.
You’ll learn: The identity trap: why over-identifying with your business makes letting go so painful The hidden rebel: how your own psychology could push you to blow up a good deal Why money mindset matters—and how it shapes your exit experience The #1 mistake that makes founders rush into the next thing too soon How to exit with clarity, confidence, and zero regrets
Selling your business isn’t just a financial transaction—it’s a psychological transformation. Make sure you’re ready.
Get the full playbook in Exit Strategy: The Psychology of When, Why & How to Leave Your Business Without Regret. Grab your copy here: www.exitstrategybook.com
#ExitStrategy #Entrepreneurship #SellingYourBusiness #FounderLife #Scaling #BusinessExit #StartupLife