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Manda Scott, a prolific novelist and host of Accidental Gods, and Nathalie Nahai, a behavior science advisor and author, celebrate the winter solstice by reflecting on the past year and envisioning the future. They discuss navigating the intersection of AI and eco-socialism, revealing ethical concerns and the need for systemic change. The conversation also dives into emotional resilience and collective healing, emphasizing self-exploration. With insights into anti-capitalist strategies, they highlight the importance of community connections for a more equitable future.

Torkil Lauesen, a seasoned activist and writer from Denmark, shares his 50 years of experience in historical materialism. He discusses its foundational role in understanding societal changes and class structures. Torkil recounts his activism during the late 60s to 80s, his imprisonment linked to anti-imperialist work, and his insights into the relationship between capitalism and ecological crises. He critiques neoliberalism and explores the complexities of post-colonial struggles, emphasizing the need for socialist principles in contemporary resistance movements.

Da'Shaun Harrison, a writer and co-executive director of Scalawag Magazine, dives deep into the intersections of anti-fatness and anti-Blackness. He unpacks how both ideologies are intertwined, rooted in systemic violence and historical eugenics. The conversation critiques the Body Mass Index (BMI) and its troubling origins, highlighting its detrimental effects on marginalized bodies. Harrison calls for a reimagining of liberation through collective action, emphasizing the need for transformative change in our understanding of these intertwined oppressions.

The discussion kicks off with a refreshing look at socialism and its historical critiques, amidst persistent anti-communist sentiments. It highlights an individual's journey through capitalism's failures, advocating for socialism as a vital response to these issues. Urgency takes center stage as the need for a strategic transition to socialism in the face of ongoing industrial capitalism is emphasized. Collective action and learning from past struggles emerge as crucial themes for achieving meaningful change.

Roman Krznaric, a social philosopher and Research Fellow at the Centre for Eudaimonia and Human Flourishing, discusses how our understanding of time impacts our actions today and for future generations. He emphasizes the importance of long-term thinking and ancestral responsibility. Krznaric explores concepts like 'temporal intelligence' and critiques short-termism, urging listeners to consider their legacy. He also highlights the power of community and solidarity as essential tools for fostering a more connected and hopeful society.

In this engaging discussion, Patrick Higgins, a researcher with a PhD in Arab History, dives into the rich historical tapestry of the Palestinian resistance movement. He examines its profound impact on decolonial Marxism and the fight against both British colonialism and U.S. imperialism. The conversation highlights the movement's evolution, the significance of primary sources in reshaping perspectives on Zionism, and critiques the pitfalls of ideological purity in leftist politics. Higgins also unpacks the complex interplay between religious beliefs and Palestinian nationalism.

Exhaustion. What a perfect and powerful word to describe our times. Exhausted bodies—over-worked, over-productive, over-stretched. Bodies pushed to their limits, treated like machines whose sole existence is to produce profit. Exhausted ecosystems—extracted, ruined, plundered. Viewed as nothing but raw material for the ceaseless flow of capital accumulation. Exhausted minds—hurried and harried, no time for joy, for introspection, for pondering the cosmos. Our minds are tethered to an orbit delineated by distraction, denial, and despair. Exhaustion. 2024 is on track to be the hottest year on record—and unless you’ve been consciously avoiding it you’ve probably seen the videos of the devastating floods, wildfires, and “once in a thousand years” storms that are increasingly becoming a part of our daily lives. The reality of climate change is no longer one of the future, one that can be framed in a discussion about coming generations—it’s here already. And it’s not even a question anymore of capitalism being the driving factor—that’s an old conversation. The question now is: what are we going to do about it? How do we respond, right now? Ajay Singh Chaudhary is the executive director of the Brooklyn Institute for Social Research and core faculty member specializing in social and political theory and author of The Exhausted of the Earth: Politics in a Burning World, published by Repeater Books. In this episode, we analyze and unpack the many forms of exhaustion that shape us and our world today. We explore the politics of climate change, from right-wing climate responses to those coming from the left, we explore the extractive circuit of capitalism as it stretches its tentacles from lithium mines in The DRC to Doordash drivers in the suburbs of the West. We explore imperialism, Marxist theory, revolutionary classes, revolutionary strategies, and why the “exhausted of the earth” are the mass political subject of our times. Further Resources The Exhausted of the Earth: Politics in a Burning World, by Ajay Singh Chaudhary Brooklyn Institute for Social Research Related Episodes: The Fight for The Congo w/ Vijay Prashad Degrowth vs Eco-Modernism Buddhism and Marxism with Breht O'Shea Climate Leninism w/ Jodi Dean and Kai Heron Intermission music: "Non-Metaphorical Decolonization" by Mount Eerie Upstream is a labor of love—we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/upstreampodcast or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at  upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship For more from Upstream, visit www.upstreampodcast.org and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky. You can also subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

This is a free preview of the episode "The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness w/ Da'Shuan Harrison," which will be unlocked in a few weeks. To can get early access to the full episode by subscribing to our Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/upstreampodcast As a Patreon subscriber you will get access to at least one bonus episode a month (usually two or three), our entire back catalog of Patreon episodes, early access to certain episodes, and other benefits like stickers and bumper stickers—depending on which tier you subscribe to. You’ll also be helping to keep Upstream sustainable and allowing us to keep this project going. Find out more at Patreon.com/upstreampodcast or at upstreampodcast.org/support. Thank you. Anti-fatness as anti-Blackness. Being Black and fat in our capitalist, white-supremacist, ableist, heteronormative society is to live in a body that is subjected to a form of unique violence marked by policing, misdiagnosis, discrimination, abuse, trauma—the list goes on.  And anti-fatness and anti-Blackness are not simply two separate things—disparate nodes on a circuit of oppression—anti-fatness and anti-Blackness form a crucial intersection, and are ultimately one and the same, according to our guest, in terms of their history, structural, weaponization, and deployment by the ideological apparatuses of the capitalist state and the violence which it upholds.  In this episode, we’ll be discussing anti-fatness as anti-Blackness with Da'Shaun Harrison—a writer, editor, speaker, community organizer, co-executive director of Scalawag Magazine, and author of Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness, published by North Atlantic Books. In this conversation, we explore the field of fat studies, the history of anti-fatness and anti-Blackness, why we should view anti-fatness as anti-Blackness, the eugenicist history of BMI—or the Body Mass Index—the need to stretch and grow abolition politics, the importance of unlearning supremacist ideology, and much more.  Further resources: Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness, published by North Atlantic Books Da'Shaun's LinkTree Roxanne Gay Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia, Sabrina Strings Heavy: An American Memoir, Kiese Laymon The Embodiment of Disobedience: Fat Black Women’s Unruly Political Bodies, Andrea Shaw Related episodes: Abolish the Police Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/upstreampodcast or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at  upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship For more from Upstream, visit www.upstreampodcast.org and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky. You can also subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

Saio Gradin, a Politics teacher and community organizer, and Nicole Wires, an organizer at the Nonprofit Democracy Network, delve into the fascinating realm of prefigurative politics and workplace democracy. They discuss how embodying revolutionary ideals can transform current systems, focusing on worker self-direction and cooperatives. Gradin shares insights from his activism, while Wires emphasizes the challenges of fostering democracy in nonprofit settings. Together, they highlight the critical importance of collective governance and grassroots organizing for a more equitable future.

“This is the most important election of our lifetimes.” “Voting for a third-party candidate? Might as well throw away your vote!” “You may not like her, but you’ve just got to hold your nose and vote for her — otherwise, Trump might win.”  We're sure you’ve heard each of these lines many times — we know that we have. But, at some point you have to ask: how can every election be the most important one? Am I really throwing away my vote by voting for a candidate whose policies I agree with? Can we ever actually affect change if we’re always voting for the "lesser evil" candidate or party? Isn’t that just a race to the bottom — or, as we're seeing currently, a race towards genocide? Well, in this conversation, we’re going to tackle all of those questions — and much more — with our guest, August Nimtz, Professor of political science and African American and African studies in the College of Liberal Arts at the University of Minnesota. Professor Nimtz is the author of The Ballot, The Streets, Or Both? published by Haymarket Books. In this conversation, Professor Nimtz explores the question of electoralism as it relates to revolutionary left politics through a deep dive into the history of the Russian Revolution — examining how Marx, Engels, and Lenin approached electoralism and then applying their analyses and viewpoints to today’s situation.  What is the role of elections for the revolutionary left? How can we engage with electoralism without falling into what Professor Nimtz refers to as “electoral fetishism”? What about the "lesser evil" or "spoiler" phenomenon? How can we build a party for the working and oppressed classes without falling prey to opportunism or bourgeois distraction? What can we learn from the European Revolutions of 1848, the Paris Commune, the Russian Revolution, and other historic attempts at revolution — both successful and unsuccessful? These are just some of the questions and themes we explore in this episode with Professor Nimtz. Thank you to Bethan Mure for this episode’s cover art and to Noname for the intermission music. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond. Further resources: The Ballot, The Streets, or Both? by August Nimtz Related episodes: [UNLOCKED] Voting for Socialism w/ Claudia De La Cruz & Karina Garcia Battling the Duopoly w/ Jill Stein Righteous Indignation, Love, and Running for President w/ Dr. Cornel West Upstream: What Is To Be Done? with Breht O'Shea and Alyson Escalante Socialism Betrayed w/ Roger Keeran and Joe Jamison Upstream is a labor of love—we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Subscribe to our Patreon at patreon.com/upstreampodcast or please consider chipping in a one-time or recurring donation at www.upstreampodcast.org/support If your organization wants to sponsor one of our upcoming documentaries, we have a number of sponsorship packages available. Find out more at  upstreampodcast.org/sponsorship For more from Upstream, visit www.upstreampodcast.org and follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky.