The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

What Therapists Should Know About Dissociation and Dissociative Disorders: An Interview with Dr. Jamie MarichCurt and Katie interview Dr. Jamie Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple, about dissociation and dissociative identities. We talk with Jamie about what therapists often get wrong as well as some basics on what dissociation is and how best to understand and treat it (when it actually needs treating).Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can support clients navigating dissociationA friend of the show, Dr. Jamie Marich, wrote a book Dissociation Made Simple, and we wanted to talk about it!What are therapists getting wrong when learning about and treating dissociation? Not believing in dissociative identities or dissociative systems Fear of and misunderstanding of dissociation Thinking of dissociation as a dirt word and something to avoid Believing that dissociation must always be healed (when in fact it could be useful at times) What is dissociation? What is dissociative identity disorder or dissociative experience? Exploring different definitions and conceptualizations It is a lot of different things Severing/separating from the present moment or from aspects of ourselves Disaggregation or dividing your self into parts Purposeful, meeting a need or protection The shift to thinking about elements of dissociation as adaptive or maladaptive situationally How can therapists support clients in understanding and managing their own dissociation? Helping clients to identify what purpose their dissociation is serving Assessing dissociative profile through an inventory in the book (triggers, how we dissociate, adaptive/maladaptive) All dissociative behaviors can be assessed as adaptive or maladaptive How can a therapist assess for dissociative identities or systems? Language may vary (parts, defenders, team, selves, side, aspect, etc.) Previous diagnosis or self-diagnosis Listen for the experience (a “part of me” wants this, a “side of me” wants this) Speaking in a parts-informed way Exploring for thinking from different parts of self, potentially even already with names Dissociative Identities inventories What are clinical goals with clients who have dissociative experiences and/or identities? When working with someone with a system, will need to get buy in from all elements of the team for treatment goals Goals may not align across different parts The theory that you’re working with a family Many clients have Chronic PTSD and the focus of treatment may be trauma The importance of being trauma informed Grounding, anchoring, or settling into the present moment The goal is usually NOT integration Cohesion, communication, or cooperation How can therapists overcome their fear about dissociation? Identifying your own dissociation Overcoming the “us versus them” related to dissociation Moving away from bias and stereotypes of folks who dissociate Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Dissociation Made Simple (the book)Jamie’s website: redefinetherapy.comJamie’s social media: Trauma Therapist Rants on TwitterTrauma Therapist Rants on TikTokStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Understanding Your Money in Private Practice: An Interview with Jennie SchottmillerCurt and Katie interview Jennie Schottmiller, LMFT, CPA, about understanding your numbers when starting a private practice. We explore the simple math that can help you create consistent income and decrease your anxiety about running a business. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can handle their private practice financesWe reached out to our friend, Jennie Schottmiller, to talk about the basics of bookkeeping in private practice. What are the business decisions therapists need to make when starting a private practice? Bookkeeping platforms Types of business How to stabilize their income What to pay themselves How do therapists create consistent income? Understanding the ebb and flow of the business Identifying how to pay a consistent income every month What are the fears that many private practice owners have? (And how can they deal with them?) What do I need to plan for (i.e., rational fears) What do I need to talk myself of the ledge about (i.e., irrational fears) The fear of math can keep folks from figuring out how to make the money work The benefits of starting slow and managing your expenses from the beginning Creating financial cushions to avoid freaking out What are best practices for addressing your books in private practice? How often should you look at your books? What numbers are you looking at? When should you hire a bookkeeper? What should you know about your books before you hire a bookkeeper? How to design your books to best monitor your unique business Managing expenses and understanding what you’re paying for Looking at year over year changes and trends to plan How can a therapist navigate their neurodivergence and starting a business? Understanding your capacities and what your challenges are Creating a plan to get stuff done Putting systems in place to address your challenges that works for how your brain works Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Simple Profit websiteSimple Profit on InstagramSimple Profit on FacebookFree Facebook group: Simple Profit for Mental Health CliniciansStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Has Therapy Become the New Religion?Curt and Katie chat about op ed pieces from the New York Times, where there are a lot of opinions on what therapy is and should be. We explore comparisons of therapy to religion, the notion that going to therapy makes one good, safe and dateable, and how therapy seems to have invaded our lives.   Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we talk about the opinion that therapy has become morally goodKatie likes reading New York Times Op Ed pieces on what therapy is now. We decided to explore some of the questions these articles raise.What does the New York Times have to say about therapy and therapists? Going to therapy makes you a good person Putting that you’re going to therapy on your dating app is a cheat code – meaning that you are safe to date We have reached a point where we’re more focused on “mental health” than on mental illness Therapy-speak has invaded everything It is toxic to tell everyone to go to therapy What is leading to comparisons of therapy to religion? Decreased membership in organized religion Finding your own morals and values outside of organized religion Finding meaning and purpose through the work you do in therapy A fear of the degradation of social contracts and a rise of moral relativism How are people framing the role of the therapist? Potential for individual exploration of how to live one’s life that is individualized and less tied to specific doctrine Another potential to be seen as giving direction on how to live life The role of community care versus individualized healing Relationship versus individual focus The nuance of what therapy is versus the fears of what is being done What is the fear about therapy being so central in our lives? The worry that people are too self-focused and not sufficiently other focused Pushing back on the status quo and established systems The notion that “therapy is good” and “all people need therapy” Therapy as a status symbol or a designation that I’m a good person Lack of access for folks with mental illness due to “worried well” and “personal growth” clients taking all of the spots Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!New York Times’ Articles:Why Do People Think Going to Therapy Makes You A Good Person? By Mychal Denzel SmithWe Have Reached Peak ‘Mental Health’ by Huw GreenIs it Toxic to Tell Everyone to Get Therapy? By Zachary SiegelHow the Language of Therapy Took Over Dating by Dani BlumThe Problem with Letting Therapy-Speak Invade Everything by Tara Isabella BurtonOur Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedRelevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Is Therapy an Opiate of the Masses?Navigating the Social Media Self-Diagnosis TrendModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Understanding Impostor Syndrome in High Achievers: An Interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFTCurt and Katie interview Stevon Lewison working with high achievers who struggle with impostor syndrome. We explored what impostor syndrome is, how society contributes to impostor syndrome, how you can differentiate impostor syndrome from internalized racism, sexism, heterosexism, ableism, etc., the emotional impacts of impostor syndrome, and how therapists can work effectively with these clients. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about how impostor syndrome shows up in high achieversWe reached out to our friend, Stevon Lewis, to explore impostor syndrome. What do therapists miss related to treating impostor syndrome in high achievers? Looking at the symptoms versus the root cause Understanding the common patterns How does society contribute to impostor syndrome?  Productivity and detail-orientation are praised The role of humility and Stevon’s difficulty with the accepted definition of humility Subcultures that are hyper-focused on achievement and competition The impact of a marginalized identity or identities on impostor syndrome How can therapists support high achievers with impostor syndrome in therapy? Slowing down the conversation Shifting the language related to goal-setting Finding a path to celebrating wins Perspective taking on how you treat yourself versus how you treat others Self-compassion and self-understanding How do you sort out impostor syndrome from internalized racism, sexism, ableism, etc.? Contending with stereotypes and unreasonable expectations Looking at the environment within which someone is working or living The impact of parenting and what you’ve grown up with Emotional impacts of Impostor Syndrome Description of the inner bully Fear of being found out, not belonging Fear of being a disappointment or of being too successful The danger of exploitation, especially for folks who have traditionally been marginalized The pushback when you are being different What does healing look like for high achievers with impostor syndrome? Radical acceptance of self Getting freedom Self-compassion Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Stevon’s WebsiteStevon’s Journal: Silencing Your Inner BullyStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:LinkTreeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Special Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on Mulberry Web DesignCurt and Katie talk with Kat Valentine, owner of Mulberry, a web design company specializing in custom websites for private practice therapists.  This is the Modern Therapist Consumer Guide, a series of special episodes to help modern therapists navigate products and services specifically designed for therapists and their clients. We dig deeply into the companies, the people, and the products and services so you can make smart decisions in building your practice and serving your clients.Interview with Kat Valentine of MulberryMulberry is a U.S. based company providing a broad range of website-related services to marketing departments, small businesses, and private practices in California, Washington, and many other States that extend to the East Coast. We support busy marketing departments with long-term web marketing strategies and daily online marketing activities. And we keep up with the busiest marketing departments, providing business day turn-around on various routine daily web development requests.We also offer website design & development services to small businesses and those in private practice. We have established many rewarding relationships working directly with business owners who serve their local communities.In this podcast episode we talk about web design (and website rescue) with MulberryInterview with Kat Valentine, Mulberry1:14 What do therapists get wrong when putting together their websites?6:23 What is Mulberry Web Design and where did that name come from?14:32 What is the process you go through when you start with a new client?19:15 What is the rescue process like?23:12 What makes you different from other web developers?Curt and Katie Chat – Our review of Mulberry27:37 What do you see as the deciding factors when deciding whether to hire Kat and Mulberry Web Design (or not)?A Special Offer for the listeners of Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide podcast from MulberryMention Therapy Reimagined and receive a 10% discount (up to $250!) on any service we provide.Relevant Links:Mulberry Web Design websiteConnect with us!https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedCredits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Supervision in the Real World: Understanding what makes an effective supervisory allianceCurt and Katie chat about the relationship between supervisor and supervisee in clinical supervision. We explore what makes up a good supervisory alliance, what the research says (and why it is problematic), as well the practicalities of how to create a good relationship and set up a strong supervision meeting. We also look at the challenges in the real world, especially related to addressing business or administrative needs.  This is a continuing education podcourse.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we explore the clinical supervisory alliance for therapistsWe know that the relationship is very important in therapy, but what about supervision? We dig into what makes an effective supervisory alliance (and what can hurt it).What makes up a good clinical supervision relationship for therapists? Teaching within a learning alliance Having a shared view of what is being worked on Rapport, shared supervisory goals, shared tasks by which those goals are pursued Research on clinical supervision is problematic Mechanisms by which efficacy is measured Poor timing of research (developmental stage of the supervisee as well as after supervision is done) What does an effective clinical supervisory alliance look like, practically? Strong relationship that holds space for an assessment of what the supervisee needs at their particular developmental stage Supervisory Alliance measures can help to identify how well this relationship is developing Using feedback to inform the conversations in supervision Cultural and gender impacts on the supervisory alliance Supervisor humility and openness Intentionality with how the relationship is developed Regular evaluations for supervisees, including the FASIT (Functional Assessment of Skills for Interpersonal Therapists) system from Behavioral Analysts to assess their skills Setting up an effective supervisory session Navigating the business and clinical needs within the supervisory relationship Creating an agenda and goals Balancing case presentation with other supervisory needs Clear about expectations at every stage, especially relevant at hiring Pulling administrative conversations out of clinical supervision meetings Finding agreed upon path to address clinical work Cultural humility within the supervisory relationship Receive Continuing Education for this Episode of the Modern Therapist’s Survival GuideYou can find this full course (including handouts and resources) here: https://learn.moderntherapistcommunity.com/pages/podcourseContinuing Education Approvals: Please check continuing education approval bodies: Continuing Education Information Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Sign up to get on the list for Curt’s supervision workshopSaving Psychotherapy by Dr. Ben CaldwellA Few Thoughts on Impostor Syndrome by Dr. Jordan Harris*The full reference list can be found in the course on our learning platform.Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Sex Therapy with Perfectionists: An Interview with Dr. Tom MurrayCurt and Katie interview Dr. Tom Murray about sex therapy for clients with the overcontrolled temperament. We talk about how temperament can affect one’s sex life, what therapists often miss in conversations about sex, and what good sex therapy can look like for these clients. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!An Interview with Dr. Tom MurrayDr. Tom Murray, author, international trainer, educator, and couples and sex therapist-supervisor, is a widely sought-after expert in sexuality and intimate relationships. For 20+ years, Murray has worked with everyday folks to embrace their weirdness, shed labels and shame, lean into anxiety, and build better and stronger relationships. Murray has appeared in numerous venues, including the Huffington Post and The Daily Mail, as well as radio, television and podcasts, including the Practice of Being Seen and Shrink Rap Radio. Murray directs A Path to Wellness, a multidisciplinary practice providing sex therapy, couples counseling, and general psychotherapy. He authored "Making Nice with Naughty: An intimacy guide for the rule-following, organized, perfectionist, practical, and color-within-the-line types."In this podcast episode, we talk about how temperament can impact your sex lifeWe reached out to Dr. Tom Murray to share with us about his new book, Making Nice with Naughty, and how therapists can understand how to help perfectionists (and other over-controlled types) can improve their sex life.What is the overcontrolled personality and how does it impact sex and sexuality? Personality characteristics and mindset (introspective, fixed or fatalistic mindset) Perfectionism, rigidity, and hypervigilance Sexual deficits (low receptivity, avoidance of novel situations, need for ritual) Typically choose monogamy as overarching rule for sexual relationships The impact of trauma on those who are predisposed to the overcontrolled temperament The complication of past trauma on current relationships The challenge and the work of helping clients show up as the sexual being they would like to be How can therapists help overcontrolled adults to improve their sexual functioning? The goal of self-acceptance and the importance of learning about sex as an adult The rights and responsibilities of monogamy Sexual discrepancy and forced celibacy Looking at the difference between “want” and “willing” to have sex Understanding the different types of desire (spontaneous, responsive, contextual) and what is typical for each partner How to overcome low sexual desire in relationships Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!The book: Making Nice with Naughty: An Intimacy Guide for the Rule-Following, Organized, Perfectionist, Practical, and Color-Within-The-Line Types by Dr. Thomas L. Murray JrTom’s website: drtommurray.comDr. Tom Murray on InstagramDr. Tom Murray on TikTokRelevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Sex and Shame: An interview with Eliza Boquin, LMFTLet’s Talk about Sex: An interview with Liz Dube, LMFTWhat Therapists Should Know About Sexual Health, Monkey Pox, and the Echoes of the AIDS Epidemic: An Interview with Mallory Garrett, LMFTStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeOur Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

What Actually is Therapy?Curt and Katie chat about the confusing laws related to telehealth and other technologies that open up questions of how therapy is actually defined. We look at what is not therapy, what constitutes a therapy session, what differentiates therapy from coaching, and how therapists can navigate confusing laws related to texting, telehealth, and interstate communication with their clients. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we talk about what therapy is and what it is notCurt identified some laws that don’t quite work because what is considered therapy is changing. What time does therapy happen if you are texting? Where is it located? And what actually is therapy and needs to be held under the laws of the profession AND the laws regulating telehealth and technology?Why does Curt want to fix the telehealth laws? Rules surrounding knowing where your client is and safety depend on therapy happening concurrently. New types of therapy (like texting and asynchronous messaging) don’t have the same parameters to be able to identify what is supposed to be documented in therapy sessions. What is therapy and what is not therapy? Therapy versus coaching Therapy versus coping skills training What is therapy versus what is therapeutic Does the presence of a therapist make something therapy? What about continuity of care or coping/coaching calls when someone is traveling? Things that are called therapy and are not: retail therapy, conversion therapy What is billable to insurance? How do we differentiate what we do from non-therapists? Deeper emotional work within psychological principles Legal responsibilities of confidentiality What is a therapy session? Therapy sessions versus coaching calls Therapists define what is a therapy session (according to CAMFT) We need to make sure that we clarify with clients what therapy is with each of us Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Article from Stephen P. Becker – Wilderness Therapy: Ethical Considerations for Mental Health ProfessionalsRelevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Rage and Client Self-Harm: An interview with Angela Caldwell, LMFTIt's the Lack of Thought That Counts: Ethical Decision-Making in Dual RelationshipsStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeeOur Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Am I Honoring My Personal Values OR Am I Discriminating? An exploration of ethics for modern therapistsCurt and Katie chat about what therapists should be considering when their strongly held personal values or moral beliefs conflict with a client’s demographics, lifestyle, or choices. We dig deeply into when it’s okay to make a “values-based referral” and when referring out is discrimination.  This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode we explore the difference between honoring our personal values and discriminationTherapists are people who have their own identities, beliefs, values, and approaches to life. But what happens when those identities come into conflict with the clients that they serve? This CE podcourse explores the ethics behind therapist personal values, when personal values should dictate a client being referred to another treatment provider, and when that referral is actually discriminatory.What is Julia Ward vs. Eastern Michigan University? An Orthodox Christian, master’s student in counseling requested referring out a LGBTQ+ client This student was dismissed from school because it was seen as discrimination and referrals were not allowed at that school There was a summary judgment and an appeal, leading to further lack of clarity The State of Tennessee has a law that allows therapists to deny services to clients The law trying to overcome ethics codes The ACA protested by moving their annual convention out of the state Tennessee How do ethics codes handle the conflict between discrimination and holding to personal values? Do no harm, be truthful, practice within your competence Equity, fidelity and the call to not discriminate with a call to learn and expand competence with clients, and avoid abandoning clients How do we decide whether we can or should refer out a client based on our firmly held beliefs? Ethical decision-making and our responsibility based on our license Sorting out client need, competence, and the benefit of the therapeutic relationship (i.e., common factors) Referral is a last resort and should be based on client need (not therapist preference) Advertising and branding for clients to self-select What happens when clients disclose things later in treatment The differences in the task for clinicians in private practice versus clients in organizations Receive Continuing Education for this Episode of the Modern Therapist’s Survival GuideOnce you’ve listened to this episode, to get CE credit you just need to go to learn.moderntherapistcommunity.com/pages/podcourse, register for your free profile, purchase this course, pass the post-test, and complete the evaluation! Once that’s all completed - you’ll get a CE certificate in your profile or you can download it for your records.Continuing Education Approvals:You can verify CE approvals here: Continuing Education InformationResources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!Saving Psychotherapy by Benjamin E. Caldwell, PsyD*The full reference list can be found in our show notes at mtsgpodcast.com as well as on the course on our learning platform.Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:Link tree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined

Addressing Racism in Clinical Licensing Exams: An Interview with Ben Caldwell and Tony RousmaniereCurt and Katie interview Dr. Ben Caldwell and Dr. Tony Rousmaniere about the problems with the Clinical Licensing exams for therapists. We discuss the recent report from ASWB on their pass rates as well as the concerns about the EPPP2 implementation, the poor predictive validity and utility of these licensing exams, and suggestions for what to do with our licensing processes given these concerns.Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!In this podcast episode, we talk about recent data that licensing exams are racistFriends of the show, Dr. Ben Caldwell and Dr. Tony Rousmaniere wrote a white paper in response to a recent report from the ASWB that shows their licensing exams appear to be racist. We wanted to talk with them about their calls to discontinue these exams.How are the clinical exams racist?·      The number one predictor of whether you pass the exam is your race·      The structure of the exam seems to advantage those with more affinity to these types of tests (i.e., those who are educationally privileged)·      There may also be content or language concerns leading to these disparitiesWhat is the purpose of the clinical exams for therapists?·      Said that it is to be an assessment of knowledge and training, consumer protection, etc.·      Little predictive validity (of competence or consumer safety) for these tests·      The test is an unfair hurdle for folks without academic privilege·      There does not seem to be a need for this test (due to the rigor of training and supervised experience)What would be better alternatives to requiring a clinical exam?·      Alternate pathways that some states have taken·      Addressing workforce shortages by allowing folks who have gotten through every other requirement (aside from the clinical exam) to be licensed·      Just don’t require a clinical examWhat can therapists do to try to get rid of licensing exams?·      Advocacy to state boards to not implement EPPP2·      Other advocacy related to master’s level clinical exams·      Organizations to #StopASWB and address the EPPP2Resources for Modern Therapists mentioned in this Podcast Episode:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Please note that some of the links below may be affiliate links, so if you purchase after clicking below, we may get a little bit of cash in our pockets. We thank you in advance!White Paper: Clinical Licensing Exams in Mental Health Care by Benjamin E. Caldwell, PsyD and Tony Rousmaniere, PsyDASWB Report on Social Work Licensing Exam Pass RatesVery Bad TherapyBenCaldwellLabs.comSentioCC.orgStop the Adoption of EPPP2 WebsiteASWB: End Discriminatory Social Work Licensing ExamsA sample letter you can send to your licensing board will be on our show notes at mtsgpodcast.com.Relevant Episodes of MTSG Podcast:Fixing Mental Healthcare in AmericaUnlearning Very Bad TherapyStay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement:PatreonBuy Me A CoffeePodcast HomepageTherapy Reimagined HomepageLink tree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimaginedModern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/