
The Crypto Beat
The Crypto Beat is a live streaming podcast focused on topical crypto news events. The podcast will feature multiple guests who are deep in the crypto industry sharing their views on the topic of the day. It will be available across X, Twitch and YouTube and made available afterwards on popular audio platforms.
Latest episodes

Jul 8, 2025 • 41min
Wormhole Foundation co-founder on how RWAs and stablecoins can live in a multichain world
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Wormhole Co-Founder Robinson Burkey.
In this episode, Copeland and Burkey discuss the growing adoption of multi-chain frameworks and increasing institutional interest in blockchain technology. The conversation also touches on tokenized assets and the growing emphasis on revenue in the crypto space.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:22 – Wormhole’s growth
04:07 – Which chains are seeing growth
06:47 – RWAs
08:57 – Tokenized Credit
11:47 – Wormhole's Role in RWA
14:14 – Institutional adoption
17:45 – Institution’s opening up to crypto
20:23 – Future Crypto Expansion
23:05 – IPOs and On-Chain Opportunities
25:54 – Wormhole’s Governance Model
32:06 – Effects of Shifting US regulations
36:00 – Potential For Revenue Sharing
37:51 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Robinson Burkey - https://x.com/RobinsonBurkey
Wormhole Foundation - https://x.com/wormholefdn
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Jul 2, 2025 • 29min
Bringing dark pools to Hyperliquid with Silhouette Founder Chandler De Kock
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Silhouette Founder Chandler De Kock.
In this episode, Copeland and De Kock discuss Silhouette and dark pools, the integration of privacy features into DeFi, and the implications for market transparency. The conversation also touches on the role of market makers and recent industry trends on token launches.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:36 – Dark Pools Explained
03:34 – Ensuring Private Transactions
07:39 – Maintaining Standards
12:57 – Hyperliquid.
15:44 – James Wynn and Public Positions
19:48 – Challenges and Opportunities
21:38 – Market Maker Engagement
23:33 – Next Steps to Launch
28:55 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Chandler De Kock - https://x.com/chandlerdkk
Silhouette - https://x.com/silhouette_exhttps://x.com/silhouette_ex
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Jul 2, 2025 • 28min
Inside the institutional ETH staking world with Alluvial CEO Mara Schmiedt
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Alluvial CEO Mara Schmiedt.
In this episode of The Crypto Beat, Copeland and Schmiedt discuss Alluvial's role in shaping institutional Ethereum staking. Schmiedt also discusses a new partnership between Liquid Collective and Galaxy, and shares insights on market trends, compliance, and the future of crypto regulations.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:34 – Alluvial's Mission
02:29 – Compliance and KYC
05:12 – ETH Withdrawals
06:05 – Partnership with Galaxy
08:02 – Institutional Staking Demand
10:06 – Adding ETH to balance sheets
12:38 – Convergence of Crypto and TradFi
14:24 – Institutional Adoption and Compliance
15:27 – SEC Staking Guidance
18:33 – Growth of Liquid Staking Tokens
20:06 – US Staking Lawsuits
21:21 – ETFs and Staking
25:50 – Future of Staking
26:57 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Mara Schmiedt - https://x.com/MaraSchmiedt
Alluvial - https://x.com/alluvialfinance
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Jun 20, 2025 • 34min
Upexi CEO & CSO break down their Solana treasury strategy
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Upexi CEO Allan Marshall and CEO Brian Rudick.
In this episode, Marshall and Rudick explain why their company is going all-in on Solana as the core of a digital asset treasury strategy. They discuss the upside potential of Solana, staking yields, and how disciplined leverage and capital markets dynamics could mirror or improve on MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin playbook.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Intro
00:55 - Why Upexi chose Solana over Bitcoin
02:45 - Staking Solana and revenue benefits
04:41 - Regulatory clarity and the bull case
07:23 - Wen Solana ETF
10:39 - Explaining the premium
15:12 - Risk management
19:18 - Locked SOL supply and market impact
21:39 - GameStop & SharpLink
23:53 - Concerns about treasury strategies
26:32 - Navigating downturns in crypto
31:45 - Looking ahead
33:24 - Conclusion
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Guest links:
Allan Marhsall - https://x.com/marshall_a22015
Brian Rudick - https://x.com/thetinyant
Upexi - https://www.upexi.com/
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Jun 16, 2025 • 32min
How Across Protocol is looking to fix crypto's cross-chain headaches
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Across Protocol Co-Founder Hart Lambur.
In this episode, Copeland and Lambur discuss how Across Protocol is looking to revolutionize cross-chain interoperability by using an intent-based system that enables near-instant, secure asset transfers between blockchains. They also touched on Lambur's history as a bond trader at Goldman Sachs, chain abstraction, and crypto treasury companies.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Intro
00:33 – What is Across Protocol?
03:42 – How Intent-Based Bridging Works
05:05 – Solver Mechanics Explained
06:34 – Fee Structure & Value Prop
09:07 – Lambur’s history with Goldman Sachs
11:13 – Across and Intents
14:57 – The Future of Seamless UX
19:06 – Onboarding new users
22:14 – Other Projects Lambur Likes
26:55 – Market Outlook & Bitcoin Macro
28:15 – MicroStrategy Copycats Risk?
31:18 – Closing Remarks
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Guest links:
Hart Lambur - https://x.com/hal2001
Across Protocol - https://x.com/AcrossProtocol
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Jun 4, 2025 • 32min
It’s time for a ‘flight to quality’ - Thrive founder Daniel Jacobs
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Thrive Founder Daniel Jacobs.
In this episode, Jacobs shares how Thrive uses a mix of expert and AI agent reviewers to validate contributions, making grant funding faster, fairer, and ensure they are supporting the creation of value. Jacobs also critiques the value-extraction mindset in crypto and advocates for a shift toward long-term value creation and ecosystem sustainability.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:03 – The Origin of Thrive
04:23 – Reviewer Incentives
05:35 – AI Agent Adoption
08:52 – Confirming AI Accuracy
12:36 – Comparisons to Kaito
13:58 – Growth Metrics
16:26 – Challenges in Crypto Grant Funding
20:50 – Extracting vs. Creating Value
25:07 – Are VCs good for the space?
28:37 – Moving into “Fundamental Season”
30:07 – Interesting projects
31:17 – Daniel’s Predictions for 2025
31:42 – Closing Thoughts
The Block Newsletters
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Guest links:
Daniel Jacobs - https://x.com/thrivegiraffe
Thrive Protocol - https://x.com/thriveprotocol
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May 27, 2025 • 44min
MetaMask co-founder Dan Finlay unpacks vision for reaching a 'much bigger audience'
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Metamask Co-Founder Dan Finlay.
In this episode, Copeland and Finlay discuss the evolution of the crypto industry, the intersection of blockchain and AI, and MetaMask's goal to build a wallet for a much broader audience outside of crypto natives.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:42 - Crypto’s evolution
02:57 - MetaMask's strategy
04:39 - Mainstream Use Cases
07:20 - MetaMask’s Grants Program
10:57 - Challenges in Building MetaMask
15:17 - Improving Multi-Chain UX
17:16 - The Pectra Upgrade
23:06 - MetaMask’s revenue streams
25:33 - From Memes to Fundamentals
27:58 - Experimenting with AI
32:19 - The Solana Meme Coin
37:04 - Native Support for Solana
40:09 - The Changing U.S. Regulatory Landscape
41:20 - The Elusive MetaMask Token
42:17 - Hopes for the Future
43:01 - Conclusion
The Block Newsletters
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Guest links:
Dan Finlay - https://x.com/danfinlay
MetaMask - https://x.com/MetaMask
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May 22, 2025 • 27min
Backed Finance Co-Founder Adam Levi on the rise of tokenized equities
The Block's Editor-in-Chief, Tim Copeland, was joined by Backed Finance Co-Founder Adam Levi.
In this episode, Copeland and Levi discuss the rise and future of tokenized equities, and how it could prove to be bigger than stablecoins.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:46 - Observations From Token2049
02:14 - Adam’s Experience in the Space
03:51 - Understanding the Business Model
08:28 - Another Crypto Collapse?
11:56 - Why Tokenized Equities Are Gaining Steam
15:58 - Regulatory Concerns and Global Access
18:46 - Adoption Barriers
20:10 - Unlocking DeFi With Real-World Assets
23:06 - Yield-Bearing Stablecoins
25:21 - Coming Next in Tokenized Equities
26:01 - Conclusion
The Block Newsletters
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Guest links:
Adam Levi - https://x.com/leviadam1
Backed Finance - https://x.com/BackedFi
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May 19, 2025 • 38min
PayPal SVP Jose Fernandez da Ponte outlines the payment giant's crypto strategy
Jose Fernandez da Ponte, SVP of Blockchain, Crypto and Digital Currencies at PayPal, shares insights into the payment giant's bold crypto strategy. He discusses the launch of PayPal's stablecoin, PYUSD, and its potential to compete with Tether and USDC. Fernandez also highlights emerging use cases for stablecoins in everyday transactions and the growing involvement of traditional finance in crypto. With a focus on compliance and innovation, he outlines PayPal’s vision for integrating blockchain in the future of finance.

Apr 23, 2025 • 42min
Chatting Optimism with OP Labs Co-founder Mark Tyneway
The Block's Editor-in-Chief, Tim Copeland, was joined by OP Labs Co-Founder and Systems Engineer Mark Tyneway.In this episode, Copeland and Tyneway discuss the progress and current state of Optimism. Tyneway unpacked OP Labs' focus on user experience and interoperability, and how crypto's future could become more app-focused.OUTLINE00:00 - Introduction00:48 - Optimism’s Growth and Ecosystem Highlights05:04 - Crypto’s App-Focused Future06:57 - Native Interoperability and Cross-Chain Messaging16:10 - Adoption Through Apps20:18 - Staying Focused on the Vision25:23 - Crypto’s Growing Relevancy27:51 - Value Accrual to ETH vs Layer 2s33:12 - The Super Token36:00 - ZK Proofs39:24 - Biggest Challenges for Layer 2 Growth40:43 - Optimism’s 2025 Vision41:36 - Outro and Final ThanksThe Block NewslettersThe Block's newsletters bring you the latest news and analysis of the fast-moving crypto and DeFi markets. To subscribe, visit theblock.co/newslettersGuest links:Mark Tyneway - https://x.com/tyneslolOP Labs - https://x.com/OPLabsPBCOptimism - https://x.com/OptimismAre you hiring in crypto?Use Campus to quickly find your best candidates with our challenging Crypto Assessment Test.Faster hiring, stronger teams.Sign up for a trial today: theblock.co/campus