

The Crypto Beat
The Block
The Crypto Beat is a live streaming podcast focused on topical crypto news events. The podcast will feature multiple guests who are deep in the crypto industry sharing their views on the topic of the day. It will be available across X, Twitch and YouTube and made available afterwards on popular audio platforms.
Episodes
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Sep 2, 2025 • 43min
Jito execs explore the impact of the SEC’s liquid staking decision
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland was joined by Jito Co-Founder & CEO Lucas Bruder and Jito Foundation Chief Commercial Officer Thomas Uhm.
In this episode, Tim, Thomas and Lucas discuss the evolving U.S. regulatory stance on crypto, including the SEC’s Project Crypto and rulings on liquid staking, and how innovations like BAM and JitoSOL could unlock institutional adoption, tighter markets, and broader yield opportunities.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:18 – What is Liquid Staking?
04:00 – SEC's Stance on Liquid Staking
07:23 – Impact on Solana and Ecosystems
12:05 – Institutional Adoption
16:21 – ETFs and Liquid Staking
18:37 – Layer One Announcements
24:11 – Introducing BAM
27:52 – Solana Ecosystem Sentiment
30:21 – Solana vs. Ethereum
33:53 – Future of Blockchains
39:15 – Future Priorities for Jito
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Guest links:
Thomas Uhm - https://x.com/ThomasUhm
Lucas Bruder - https://x.com/buffalu__
Jito - https://x.com/jito_sol
Jito Foundation - https://x.com/JitoFDN
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Aug 21, 2025 • 41min
CoinFund investor breaks down Trump’s crypto executive order and SEC’s Project Crypto
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, and co-host Kelvin Sparks were joined by CoinFund’s Kavan Canekeratne.
In this episode, Tim, Kelvin and Kavan discuss the evolving U.S. regulatory stance on crypto, including the SEC’s Project Crypto and rulings on liquid staking. He explains the rise of perpetuals, tokenized assets, stablecoins, and the competitive dynamics of exchanges, while highlighting risks around leverage, meme coins, and treasury companies. The discussion closes with Ethereum vs. Solana, Bitcoin DeFi, and the growing overlap between crypto and gambling.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
00:42 - Crypto in 401Ks and U.S. regulatory shifts
03:42 - Roman Storm trial
04:47 - Explosion of perpetuals trading
06:18 - Exchange competition
07:38 - Tokenized stocks and global adoption
11:12 - Risks of leverage and stablecoin clarity
16:30 - Tokenized RWAs
17:32 - Ethereum’s resurgence vs. Solana’s momentum
22:37 - Rollups, UX improvements, and scaling Ethereum
24:48 - Meme coins, NFTs, and evolving adoption cycles
30:32 - Bitcoin DeFi & treasury companies
40:08 - Closing remarks
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Guest links:
Kavan Canekeratne - https://x.com/kavancane
Coinfund - https://x.com/coinfund_io
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Aug 14, 2025 • 29min
Securitize’s Michael Sonnenshein dives into tokenized equites and Elixir proposal
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, and co-host Kelvin Sparks was joined by Securitize President Michael Sonnenshein.
In this episode, Sonnenshein explores the evolving market for tokenized securities, and explains the advantages of bringing traditional assets like equities, treasuries, and private credit onto public blockchains in a fully regulated, investor-protective way.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:37 – Promotion to President
01:28 – White House Digital Asset Report
03:44 – Regulatory Interest in Security Tokens
05:40 – Vision for Tokenized Equities
09:07 – Demand for Tokenized Treasuries
10:38 – Path to One Trillion in Tokenized Securities
12:38 – Robinhood and Tokenized Equities
15:24 – Benefits of Tokenized Equities
19:43 – Hamilton Lane Integration with Elixir
22:05 – Grayscale Bitcoin ETF Reflections
23:30 – SEC and In-kind Redemption
26:08 – Future of ETFs
26:17 – Systemic Risk of Bitcoin Treasury Companies
28:26 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Michael Sonnenshein - https://x.com/Sonnenshein
Securitize - https://x.com/Securitize
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Aug 7, 2025 • 30min
21Shares’ Federico Brokate unpacks Bitcoin ETF growth and institutional crypto interest
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Federico Brokate, head of U.S. Business at 21Shares.
In this episode, Tim and Federico discuss the remarkable success of Bitcoin ETFs. Brokate delves into institutional adoption trends, future crypto ETF developments, and potential shifts in market dynamics. The conversation also touches on burgeoning institutional interest in new crypto assets.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:25 – Bitcoin ETFs' Success
04:43 – Hedge Funds and Basis Trade
06:11 – Options on ETFs
09:35 – From BlackRock to 21Shares
11:49 – International vs US Demand
14:49 – Selecting Assets
18:18 – Next Major Developments in Crypto ETFS
22:24 – Tokenized Equities
23:45 – Composable ETFs and DeFi
24:57 – Regulatory Environment Shifts
26:43 – Bitcoin Treasury Concerns
29:05 – Systemic Risk in Crypto Markets
29:53 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Federico - https://x.com/Fede_Brokate
21Shares - https://x.com/21Shares
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Jul 24, 2025 • 27min
Building crypto vaults with Veda co-founder Sun Raghupathi
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Veda co-founder and CEO Sun Raghupathi.
Tim and Sun discussed how DeFi vaults are simplifying complex finance systems and looking to drive mainstream and institutional adoption. Sun explained on Veda's Vault architecture, the importance of security, and the evolving competitive landscape in the DeFi space.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:25 – What is Veda?
03:31 – Potential Contagion Risks
04:30 – GMX Hack
05:39 – DeFi Hacks
08:16 – Challenges of Building Vaults
09:48 – DeFi's Evolution
15:23 – Institutional Involvement
16:58 – Vault Uses in TradFi
17:47 – Tokenized Stocks
20:44 – Vaults vs. Staking
22:48 – Types of Vault Strategies
24:39 – AI in Vault Management
25:47 – Veda’s Future Plans
26:37 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Sun - https://x.com/sunandr_
Veda - https://x.com/veda_labs
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Jul 23, 2025 • 37min
The intersection of crypto and AI, presented by OpenLedger
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by OpenLedger Core Contributor Ram Kumar in this episodes sponsored by OpenLedger.
Tim and Ram discussed the emerging intersection of decentralized AI and blockchain technology. Ram explains how OpenLedger is building infrastructure to let users contribute proprietary data to train AI models, with on-chain attribution and rewards for data contributors. The conversation covers OpenLedger’s upcoming mainnet launch, tokenomics, and the broader promise of creating a transparent, community-driven AI economy.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:02 – What is Openledger?
02:27 – Data Contribution Model
08:47 – Access to Agents
15:16 – Ensuring Quality Data
19:09 – Incentive Structures
23:18 – The Role of Tokens
24:56 – The Convergence of AI and Crypto
27:53 – Competing with Centralized Systems
30:23 – Openledger's Future and Success
33:32 – Data Economy Insights
36:17 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Ram - https://x.com/Ramkumartweet
OpenLedger - https://x.com/OpenledgerHQ
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Jul 16, 2025 • 55min
Murad explores his memecoin thesis and support for SPX6900
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Co-Host Kelvin Sparks and memecoin aficionado Murad.
In this episode, Murad argues that the future of crypto lies in belief-driven, community-powered assets rather than short-term speculation or utility tokens. He explains why meme coins like SPX6900 are not just speculative plays but cultural and spiritual movements that offer their holders meaning, identity, and potential financial upside.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:47 – Memecoin Landscape
04:58 – Rise of Bonk.Fun
07:10 – The next six months
09:15 – SPX6900 as a Schelling Point
18:33 – Responsibilities with Memecoins
23:45 – Flipping the Stock Market
29:23 – Memecoin mullet
34:13 – Memecoin strategy
38:55 – Bitcoin Treasury Trade
45:47 – Crypto's Future
48:17 – Murad's Motivation in Crypto
52:56 – Creating or Moving Value
54:56 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
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Jul 8, 2025 • 41min
Wormhole Foundation co-founder on how RWAs and stablecoins can live in a multichain world
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Wormhole Co-Founder Robinson Burkey.
In this episode, Copeland and Burkey discuss the growing adoption of multi-chain frameworks and increasing institutional interest in blockchain technology. The conversation also touches on tokenized assets and the growing emphasis on revenue in the crypto space.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
01:22 – Wormhole’s growth
04:07 – Which chains are seeing growth
06:47 – RWAs
08:57 – Tokenized Credit
11:47 – Wormhole's Role in RWA
14:14 – Institutional adoption
17:45 – Institution’s opening up to crypto
20:23 – Future Crypto Expansion
23:05 – IPOs and On-Chain Opportunities
25:54 – Wormhole’s Governance Model
32:06 – Effects of Shifting US regulations
36:00 – Potential For Revenue Sharing
37:51 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Robinson Burkey - https://x.com/RobinsonBurkey
Wormhole Foundation - https://x.com/wormholefdn
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Jul 2, 2025 • 29min
Bringing dark pools to Hyperliquid with Silhouette Founder Chandler De Kock
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Silhouette Founder Chandler De Kock.
In this episode, Copeland and De Kock discuss Silhouette and dark pools, the integration of privacy features into DeFi, and the implications for market transparency. The conversation also touches on the role of market makers and recent industry trends on token launches.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:36 – Dark Pools Explained
03:34 – Ensuring Private Transactions
07:39 – Maintaining Standards
12:57 – Hyperliquid.
15:44 – James Wynn and Public Positions
19:48 – Challenges and Opportunities
21:38 – Market Maker Engagement
23:33 – Next Steps to Launch
28:55 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Chandler De Kock - https://x.com/chandlerdkk
Silhouette - https://x.com/silhouette_exhttps://x.com/silhouette_ex
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Jul 2, 2025 • 28min
Inside the institutional ETH staking world with Alluvial CEO Mara Schmiedt
The Block's Head of Growth, Tim Copeland, was joined by Alluvial CEO Mara Schmiedt.
In this episode of The Crypto Beat, Copeland and Schmiedt discuss Alluvial's role in shaping institutional Ethereum staking. Schmiedt also discusses a new partnership between Liquid Collective and Galaxy, and shares insights on market trends, compliance, and the future of crypto regulations.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:34 – Alluvial's Mission
02:29 – Compliance and KYC
05:12 – ETH Withdrawals
06:05 – Partnership with Galaxy
08:02 – Institutional Staking Demand
10:06 – Adding ETH to balance sheets
12:38 – Convergence of Crypto and TradFi
14:24 – Institutional Adoption and Compliance
15:27 – SEC Staking Guidance
18:33 – Growth of Liquid Staking Tokens
20:06 – US Staking Lawsuits
21:21 – ETFs and Staking
25:50 – Future of Staking
26:57 – Conclusion
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Guest links:
Mara Schmiedt - https://x.com/MaraSchmiedt
Alluvial - https://x.com/alluvialfinance
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