

The Crypto Beat
The Block
The Crypto Beat is a live streaming podcast focused on topical crypto news events. The podcast will feature multiple guests who are deep in the crypto industry sharing their views on the topic of the day. It will be available across X, Twitch and YouTube and made available afterwards on popular audio platforms.
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Jan 30, 2026 • 34min
Pomp: Forget Inflation—Deflation and Dedollarization Explain Bitcoin's Price Action
Anthony Pompliano and Jeff Park argue that deflation, not inflation, may be Bitcoin’s biggest headwind, challenging the narrative that fueled institutional adoption in 2020. They suggest institutions aren’t trying to exit fiat, but are instead integrating Bitcoin into the legacy system to attract new clients and revenue.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - The Independent Investor
05:45 - Institutions & Bitcoin
08:20 - Bitcoin vs Altcoins
12:00 - Biggest Risks to Bitcoin
17:30 - The Weak Dollar Play
22:00 - AI & Occupy AI
28:15 - Favorite Investments
33:00 - Long-Term Outlook
Guest links:
Anthony Pompliano - https://x.com/APomplianoJeff Park - https://x.com/dgt10011Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparksTim Copeland - https://x.com/timccopeland
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Jan 30, 2026 • 34min
Pomp: Forget Inflation—Deflation and Dedollarization Explain Bitcoin's Price Action
Anthony Pompliano and Jeff Park argue that deflation, not inflation, may be Bitcoin’s biggest headwind, challenging the narrative that fueled institutional adoption in 2020. They suggest institutions aren’t trying to exit fiat, but are instead integrating Bitcoin into the legacy system to attract new clients and revenue.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - The Independent Investor
05:45 - Institutions & Bitcoin
08:20 - Bitcoin vs Altcoins
12:00 - Biggest Risks to Bitcoin
17:30 - The Weak Dollar Play
22:00 - AI & Occupy AI
28:15 - Favorite Investments
33:00 - Long-Term Outlook
Guest links:
Anthony Pompliano - https://x.com/APomplianoJeff Park - https://x.com/dgt10011Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparksTim Copeland - https://x.com/timccopeland
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Jan 30, 2026 • 34min
Pomp: Forget Inflation—Deflation and Dedollarization Explain Bitcoin's Price Action
Anthony Pompliano and Jeff Park argue that deflation, not inflation, may be Bitcoin’s biggest headwind, challenging the narrative that fueled institutional adoption in 2020. They suggest institutions aren’t trying to exit fiat, but are instead integrating Bitcoin into the legacy system to attract new clients and revenue.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - The Independent Investor
05:45 - Institutions & Bitcoin
08:20 - Bitcoin vs Altcoins
12:00 - Biggest Risks to Bitcoin
17:30 - The Weak Dollar Play
22:00 - AI & Occupy AI
28:15 - Favorite Investments
33:00 - Long-Term Outlook
Guest links:
Anthony Pompliano - https://x.com/APomplianoJeff Park - https://x.com/dgt10011Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparksTim Copeland - https://x.com/timccopeland
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Jan 20, 2026 • 47min
Accelerating Retail Payments on Solana with BonkX and Solstice
The Block's Kelvin Sparks was joined by Solstice Founder Ben Nadareski and BonkX founder Jovan Tisma, who argue stablecoins will become the standard settlement layer within 10 years, compressing bank margins but unlocking DeFi access for retail. They stress the importance preserving permissionless principles while institutionalizing, and believe lifestyle-focused payments—not speculation—will drive mainstream adoption.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
03:00 - Why Crypto Payments
10:00 - The 10-Year Horizon
12:00 - Building on Solana
17:00 - Breaking Into Payments
23:00 - Banks vs Stablecoins
30:00 - Onboarding Retail
34:00 - Lifestyle Banking
38:00 - Where Value Accrues
45:45 - The USX Incident
Guest links:
Solstice - https://twitter.com/solsticefi
Ben Nadareski - https://twitter.com/ben_solstice
BonkX - https://twitter.com/BonkX_SOL
Jovan Tisma - https://twitter.com/tishmica
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Jan 19, 2026 • 47min
How oracles are bringing RWAs to crypto, with Pyth and Chronicle
Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks were joined by Mike Cahill from Pyth and Niklas Kunkel from Chronicle discuss how oracles are transforming from simple price feeds into critical infrastructure for tokenized real-world assets. They explore the explosive growth in tokenized money market funds and CLOs, the shift toward B2B adoption by DeFi protocols rather than retail, and new business models—Pyth's data subscription hit $1M ARR in weeks while Chronicle scaled to $6B in tokenized funds in under a year.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:06 - Pyth's RWA Origins
05:25 - Going Cross-Chain
07:51 - Oracle Competition Metrics
12:04 - Chronicle's DeFi Journey
17:17 - Retail vs Institutional
23:21 - Corporate Chains
34:27 - Pyth Reserve & Buybacks
41:24 - Building Without a Token
45:47 - 2026 Predictions
Guest links:
Pyth - https://x.com/PythNetwork
Mike Cahill - https://x.com/mdomcahill
Chronicle - https://x.com/ChronicleLabs
Niklas Kunkel - https://x.com/nomos_paradox
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Jan 16, 2026 • 56min
The state of digital asset treasury companies with The Ether Machine and OranjeBTC
Tim Copeland was joined by Andrew Keys, Co-Founder of The Ether Machine, and Guilherme Gomes, Founder and CEO of OranjeBTC todiscuss the rapid rise of digital asset treasury companies. The conversation explored how these firms aim to outperform crypto ETFs through active management, including staking, DeFi, leverage, and capital markets strategies, while highlighting the risks around execution, premiums to NAV, and long-term sustainability.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
01:25 - Current State of Digital Asset Treasury Companies
04:28 - DeFi Strategies and Risk Management
09:13 - Why Investors Choose DATs Over ETFs
14:04 - Market Access and Regulatory Considerations
20:52 - Hong Kong Regulator Concerns About Premiums
26:36 - Share Buybacks and Finding Equilibrium
30:47 - Bitcoin vs Ethereum: Different Asset Profiles
34:42 - Market Cap Decline: From $176B to $100B
40:26 - MicroStrategy's Average Buy Price Risk
47:11 - The Flywheel Effect and Selling Scenarios
51:13 - US Insider Trading Probe
52:24 - Niche Token Treasuries and Liquidity Concerns
55:06 - Closing Remarks
Guest links:
Andrew Keys - https://x.com/AK_EtherMachine
The Ether Machine - https://x.com/TheEtherMachine
Guilherme Gomes - https://x.com/GuiAmadoGomes
OranjeBTC - https://x.com/oranjebtc
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Dec 11, 2025 • 41min
Bybit CEO Ben Zhou on perps, RWAs, and what's next for 2026
In episode 52 of the Crypto Beat, Kelvin Sparks and Tim Copeland were joined by Bybit CEO Ben Zhou to discuss how he bootstrapped a derivatives-focused exchange and grew Bybit into a one-stop crypto platform. Ben also reflects on managing a $1B hack with radical transparency, surviving brutal bear markets, and why he thinks RWAs and on-chain capital markets will be a defining theme going into 2026.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:05 - Derivatives-First Bybit
05:09 - Cards & User Acquisition
08:21 - Prediction Markets & Competition
11:33 - CEX vs On-Chain Perps
13:44 - Mantle, BitDAO & L2 Strategy
18:28 - Market Outlook & Liquidity
21:40 - Hiring, Culture & Layoffs
28:14 - Bootstrapping & Product Focus
30:41 - $1B Hack & Hard Lessons
36:46 - RWAs, Tokenized Stocks & 2026
Guest links:
Ben Zhou - https://x.com/benbybit
Bybit - https://x.com/Bybit_Official
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Dec 3, 2025 • 51min
Investigating DeFi hacks with ‘Code is Law’ director and Wildcat Finance co-founder Laurence Day
In episode 51 of the Crypto Beat, Kelvin Sparks was joined by "Code is Law" co-director James Craig and Wildcat Finance co-founder Lawrence Day discuss the real human, technical, and legal fallout of major DeFi hacks, and the origins and making of the documentary.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introductions
03:00 – The Hack That Sparked the Film
07:00 – Idealists vs. Pragmatists in Early Crypto
10:00 – Emotion, Trauma, and Recalling Major Hacks
13:00 – Two Lines of Code and the Fragility of Money
18:30 – The Psychological Toll of Exploits
20:50 – Rise of White Hats
23:00 – Law Enforcement’s Blind Spots
24:30 – Internet Culture: Schadenfreude and Chaos
28:00 – The Ogle Interview Story
32:00 – Why Builders Keep Building After Being Hacked
38:00 – Code vs. Law: The New Legal Battleground
Guest links:
James Craig - https://x.com/jamescraig1111
Code is Law - https://x.com/CodeIsLawFilm
Laurence Day - https://x.com/functi0nZer0
Wildcat - https://x.com/wildcatfi
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Nov 28, 2025 • 38min
Unpacking the Clarity Act - The Crypto Beat Policy Special
In episode 50 of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland and Kelvin Sparks were joined by The Block's policy reporter Sarah Wynn and Moto Legal founding partner Chris Elias to break down how the Genius and Clarity Acts aim to pull crypto talent and businesses back to the U.S. by finally clarifying SEC/CFTC rules.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:34 - Impact of the Genius Act on Stablecoins
05:10 - The Clarity Act Explained
10:41 - How the Bill Evolved Over Time
16:47 - The Exodus & Return of Crypto Projects
19:13 - How Projects Seek Legal Guidance
23:28 - Political Parties' Impact on the Bill
28:21 - Government Shutdown Impact on Legislation
34:08 - Will the US Become the Crypto Capital?
37:24 - Closing Remarks
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Guest links:
Chris Elias - https://x.com/itschriselias
Moto Legal - https://www.motolegal.io/
Sarah Wynn - https://x.com/ForTheWynn_
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Nov 26, 2025 • 45min
From crypto rewards cards to neobanks with EtherFi, Gnosis and Ready
In episode 49 of the Crypto Beat, Tim Copeland was joined by Gnosis Co-Founder Stefan George, EtherFi CEO Mike Silagadze, and Ready Co-Founder Itamar Lesuisse to break down how cheap L2s, new fiat rails and self-custody are turning high-reward “crypto cards” into full-blown global neobanks that can realistically challenge Revolut, Amex and traditional banks.
OUTLINE
00:00 - Introduction
02:37 - Bridging DeFi to daily spend
03:58 - Why demand is surging
08:17 - Neobank revenue model
13:04 - Cost of issuing cards
15:04 - Regional issuance hurdles
19:00 - New user segments
22:27 - What is a crypto neobank
26:28 - Fixing crypto UX
32:27 - Cost and global scale edge
37:40 - Power of composability
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Guest links:
Stefan George - https://x.com/StefanDGeorge
Gnosis - https://x.com/gnosis_
Mike Silagadze - https://x.com/MikeSilagadze
EtherFi - https://x.com/ether_fi
Itamar Lesuisse - https://x.com/itamarl
Ready - https://x.com/ready_co
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