

Realfoodology
Courtney Swan
Welcome to the Realfoodology podcast, with your host Courtney Swan. Courtney is a passionate food activist on a mission to heal America’s broken food system. Her show cuts through the noise by tackling the critical issues that impact our health and society as a whole. Each week, join Courtney as she brings together leading voices in food policy, nutrition, sustainability, and wellness to unravel the complexities behind our broken food system, and to simplify how we look at nutrition and food. From debunking misleading health trends to exploring the future of sustainable food systems, Realfoodology equips listeners with actionable insights and empowers them to make informed choices. Whether you’re passionate about healthy living, curious about the politics of food, or simply want to live better, this is your go-to source for conversations that matter. Discover a healthier way to live with Realfoodology. For more info, visit www.realfoodology.com and follow Courtney on Instagram, @realfoodology. NEW EPISODES EVERY TUESDAYProduced By Wellness Loud.
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Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Truth About Health, Metals, and What’s Really Safe To Eat
266: After an intense struggle with depression, Karalynne Call began to explore the way that nutrition impacted mental health. This journey quite literally saved her life - by prioritizing real foods and regular exercise, she felt whole again. And along the way, she created one of my favorite clean food brands, Just Ingredients. Karalynne is known for her food swaps on social media, where she helps people all over the world identify the cleaner alternatives to unhealthy ultraprocessed pantry staples. She also is super serious about testing her own products to make sure every ingredient is up to her standards (which I love).
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Topics Discussed:
→ The top 3 nutrients that affect mental health
→ Easy tips for upgrading your own pantry with clean, real foods
→ How Karalynne turned an Instagram account turned into a clean food empire
→ Why food changed for the worse in the 1990s and 2000s
→ What no one tells you about California’s Prop 65 warnings
→ Heavy metal myths and what to really look out for
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Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:04:21 - Karalynne’s Depression Struggle
→ 00:10:26 - How Diet Impacts Mental Health
→ 00:18:18 - Healthy Food Swaps
→ 00:32:59 - How Food Changed in the 1990s and 2000s
→ 00:37:23 - Healthy Diets: Expect Consistency, Not Perfection
→ 00:41:20 - Just Ingredients
→ 00:45:50 - Prop 65 & Heavy Metals
→ 01:01:59 - Prioritize Root Cause Care
Show Links:
→ Prop 65 Banned Chemicals
Check Out:
→ Karalynne Call | Instagram
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Sep 2, 2025 • 1h 18min
Fertility Journey, Wellness Tips & Honeymoon Recap
265: This week is a bit different - in this special Q&A episode, I’m answering your questions about health, wellness and life in general. I’m also sharing some pretty big personal updates, and giving you the full recap of my honeymoon with Hector (it was a dream come true, y’all).
Topics Discussed:
→ Leading a healthy lifestyle without living in a bubble
→ The latest update on my fertility journey
→ The link between stevia and fertility
→ Best clean workout clothing brands
→ How I improved my sleep hygiene after years on the road
→ Favorite spots from my honeymoon (and why Capri is underrated)
Sponsored By:
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Timestamps:
→ 00:00 - Introduction
→ 04:15 - Live Well, But Not in a Bubble
→ 13:07 - Fertility Journey
→ 16:09 - How I Built My Social Media Career
→ 21:21 - Clean Workout Clothes
→ 24:01 - Should We Avoid Gluten?
→ 31:04 - Big Life Update!
→ 32:03 - Non-Toxic Toilet Paper
→ 34:24 - My Sleep Algorithm
→ 38:35 - Stevia and Fertility
→ 46:00 - Honeymoon Recap - Europe!
→ 01:10:28 - Food & Lifestyle: Europe vs. US
Show Links:→ Namarie Workout Wear
→ Lights Out | Bedtime Gummies
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced by: Drake Peterson

Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 14min
What Your Labs Don’t Tell You (and Why Women Get Misdiagnosed)
264: Dr. Josh Redd is a functional medicine genius. He has 12 years of post-graduate education in healthcare, including two masters degrees and two doctorate degrees. As the founder of RedRiver Health and Wellness, Dr. Redd is one of the best in the game when it comes to treating the root causes of autoimmune and brain conditions. Today, he’s reviewing my own labs (and Hector’s too!) and sharing what you can do to reduce inflammation and stay on top of your health.
Topics Discussed:
→ What digestion issues can reveal about brain health
→ Why lab benchmarks aren’t always accurate
→ How to keep your hormones in check
→ Top triggers for inflammation and autoimmune conditions - and how to reduce the impacts
→ The reality of Hashimoto’s Disease and thyroid issues
Sponsored By:
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→ BIOptimizers | For 15% off go to https://www.bioptimizers.com/realfoodology and use promo code REALFOODOLOGY.
→ Timeline | They’re offering my audience a 20% discount on all first-time purchases! Use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout at https://www.timeline.com/REALFOODOLOGYGUMMIES.
→ Manukora | Go to https://www.manukora.com/REALFOODOLOGY to get $25 off the Starter Kit, which comes with an MGO 850+ Manuka Honey jar, 5 honey travel sticks, a wooden spoon, and a guidebook!
→ Beekeeper’s Naturals | Go to https://www.beekeepersnaturals.com/REALFOODOLOGY or enter code
REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order.
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Timestamps:
→ 00:06:20 - Digestion, Brain Health, and Better Sleep
→ 00:12:13 - Why Women Get Misdiagnosed
→ 00:15:10 - Understanding Labs + What to Check For
→ 00:39:31 - Inflammation + Autoimmune Conditions
→ 00:48:58 - Functional Medicine + Root Cause Care
→ 00:51:30 - Hormones
→ 00:59:35 - Hashimoto’s Disease + Thyroid Issues
→ 01:08:58 - Making Care Accessible
→ 01:11:33 - STEM Cell Research
Show Links:
→ RedRiver Health and Wellness
→ Palmavita Clinic
Check Out:
→ Dr. Josh Redd
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 11min
This Chiropractor Predicted My Lab Results Without Bloodwork | Dr. Charlie Fagenholz
263: Dr. Charlie is not your average chiropractor. In 30 seconds, he told me everything my labs confirmed - no bloodwork required. Dr. Charlie performs muscle tests to identify how toxins like glyphosate and mold are showing up in our bodies, and uses groundbreaking laser treatments to address these issues. It’s called frequency medicine, and it’s changing the way we approach health.
Topics Discussed:
→ How frequency medicine works
→ Why chiropractic gets a bad rep
→ Why the gall bladder is the most missed organ in medicine
→ How frequency medicine can treat emotional trauma
→ Protecting ourselves from non-native EMFs (without living in a bubble)
Sponsored By:
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→ Timeline | They’re offering my audience a 20% discount on all first-time purchases! Use code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout at https://www.timeline.com/REALFOODOLOGYGUMMIES.
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→ MANUKORA | Go to https://www.Manukora.com/REALFOODOLOGY to get $25 off the Starter Kit, which comes with an MGO 850+ Manuka Honey jar, 5 honey travel sticks, a wooden spoon, and a guidebook!
→ Our Place | Visit https://www.fromourplace.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off sitewide.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:06:03 - How Dr. Charlie Found Chiropractic
→ 00:10:10 - Addressing Doubts Around Chiropractic Care
→ 00:12:59 - Frequency Medicine: How it Works
→ 00:14:46 - Testing It On Courtney
→ 00:27:10 - Treating Emotional Trauma with Frequency Medicine
→ 00:34:20 - Finding a Functional Frequency Doctor
→ 00:37:19 - Red Light + Laser Therapy
→ 00:45:00 - Gall Bladder
→ 00:51:22 - EMFs: Native vs. Non-Native
→ 00:57:23 - Success Stories: Frequency Medicine
→ 01:00:20 - Vaping Dangers
→ 01:02:30 - Healthy Living Is Simpler Than You Think
→ 01:04:45 - Most Common Problem Dr. Charlie Observes
→ 01:06:47 - Dr. Charlie: Membership + Social Media
Show Links:
→ Dr. Charlie's Website
Check Out:
→ Instagram
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Aug 12, 2025 • 1h 6min
Why Your Acne Keeps Coming Back - and How to Stop It for Good
262: If you want to get rid of your acne for real, do not miss this episode. Clearstem founders Danielle Gronich and Kayleigh Christina have built more than just a skincare company - they’ve created a community of people dedicated to treating the root cause of acne so it stays away for good. For my listeners thinking about going on Acutane, Spironolactone, or any of the other intense hormone-disrupting acne treatments, please hear out Danielle and Kayleigh first (Alix Earle, they got you). They’re sharing some of their tried-and-true tips for better skin, and the supplements, topicals, and dietary shifts to make it happen.
Topics Discussed:
→ Why acne is more than skin deep
→ Foods most closely linked to acne
→ Top pore clogging agents
→ Why Spironolactone became the new “it” acne drug - and how to ween yourself off of it
→ A acne-safe skincare regiment for Alix Earle that will actually work
→ Acne treatment myths
Sponsored By:
→ Clearstem | Check out https://www.clearstem.com/REALFOODOLOGY for 15% off!
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:02:41 - Antiaging & Acne
→ 00:05:00 - Acne Struggles
→ 00:14:39 - Clearstem Acne Panel: How it Works
→ 00:19:53 - Pore Cloggers + Filler Agents
→ 00:33:55 - Foods That Cause Acne
→ 00:39:10 - Supplements, Antidepressants, & Acne
→ 00:43:46 - Acne Medication Myths
→ 00:50:10 - Vitamins That Impact Acne
→ 00:54:50 - Acutane and Spirolactone
→ 00:59:05 - Clearstem’s Advice for Alix Earle
→ 01:03:10 - Courtney’s Clearstem Recs
Check Out:
→ Clearstem Instagram
→ Kayleigh Christina
→ Danielle Gronich
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Jul 29, 2025 • 45min
Your Fertility Isn’t Broken, But the System Might Be with Illie Pt. 2
261: Illie is back for part two! We’re getting real about her fertility journey, and how a very uncomfortable experience at the fertility clinic inspired her to take a more holistic approach to getting pregnant - and why she ultimately opted out of IVF. If you loved part one, you have to hear this.
Topics Discussed:
→ The real tea on lead and heavy metals in food
→ Affordable ways to get health testing
→ What to test for if you’re having trouble getting pregnant
→ The hormones that impact your fertility
→ Why fertility isn’t always a marker of health
Sponsored By:
→ FPOO | Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 and taste the difference freshness makes at https://www.GetFresh324.com.
→ Lineage Provisions | Try their delicious beef tallow at https://www.lineageprovisions.com and use the code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off.
→ MASA Chips | Go to https://www.MASAChips.com/Realfoodology and use code Realfoodology for 25% off your first order.
→ CURED | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off Serenity Gummies with a monthly subscription. Just head to https://www.curednutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use the code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout.
→ Paleovalley | Save at 15% at https://www.paleovalley.com/realfoodology and use code REALFOODOLOGY.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00 - Introduction
→ 03:48 - When Will The Food System Change?
→ 07:26 - Lead and Heavy Metals
→ 15:18 - Biomarker Testing
→ 17:50 - Illie’s Fertility Journey
→ 21:38 - What To Test For When You’re Trying
→ 31:43 - Fertility, IVF + Health
→ 35:37 - Are Fertility Clinics Shady?
Check Out:
→ Instagram | Iliriana Balaj
→ Instagram | Live Healthillie
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water DatabaseProduced By: Drake Peterson

Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 6min
Our Most Honest Conversation About ‘Big Wellness,’ Pharma & Food Lies with Illie Pt. 1
260: My wellness bestie Illie is here and we are not holding back. Her brand, Live Healthillie, promotes clean living through everything from food, to skincare to supplements. Like me, she’s been super vocal about exposing the toxins that lurk in our food supply and pushing for change on a national scale. We yapped so hard that we needed to make the conversation into two parts. This was like therapy for me, and probably will be for you too.
Topics Discussed:
→ “Big Wellness” compared to “Big Pharma”
→ Misconceptions about the MAHA movement
→ Beef tallow at Steak 'n Shake
→ Why eating clean is actually cheaper than people think
→ Toxic additives in baby formula
→ Why current food guidelines are so backwards
Sponsored By:
→ WeNatal | Get a free month’s supply of WeNatal Magnesium with your first purchase at https://www.wenatal.com/realfoodology
→ FPOO | Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 and taste the difference freshness makes at https://www.GetFresh324.com.
→ CURED | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off Serenity Gummies with a monthly subscription. Just head to https://www.curednutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and
use the code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout.
→ Seed | Ready to experience a probiotic that actually works? Go to https://www.Seed.com/Realfoodology and use code 25Realfoodology to get 25% off your first month.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:01:37 - MAHA Misconceptions
→ 00:08:45 - Healthier Eating Habits for Kids + Adults
→ 00:15:35 - “Wellness Influencers”
→ 00:17:44 - Baby Formula
→ 00:20:12 - Why We Can’t Trust Our Medical Systems
→ 00:26:32 - Science Needs to Keep Up
→ 00:30:45 - Prioritizing Whole Ingredients
→ 00:33:00 - The Math of Clean Eating
→ 00:40:46 - Link Between Diet and Health
→ 00:43:52 - What is “Big Wellness”?
→ 00:50:06 - Michelle Obama + Kids’ Health
→ 00:53:20 - Kellogg's Corruption
→ 00:54:38 - Studies + Regulations: E.U. vs. U.S.
→ 00:58:07 - How Registered Dietitians Give Big Companies a Pass
→ 01:00:29 - Our Current Food Guidelines Don’t Work
Check Out:
→ Instagram | Iliriana Balaj
→ Instagram | Live Healthillie
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Jul 15, 2025 • 1h 3min
How to Opt Out of Big Insurance - And Still Get Covered | Andy Schoonover
259: If you’ve ever gotten a surprise medical bill, you need to stop everything and listen to my interview with Andy Schoonover. He founded CrowdHealth, a company that’s taking a crowdfunding approach to healthcare - that means you pay into a community instead of giving your money to a big corporation, and that fund helps cover your medical costs upfront (so no expensive bills down the line). And it ends up being way cheaper than health insurance. If you’ve ever been frustrated with your insurance, you’re going to want to hear this.
Topics Discussed:
→ What a crowdfunding approach to health insurance looks like
→ Difference between CrowdHealth and insurance
→ How the healthcare system got so broken
→ Why doctors hate dealing with insurance
→ Incentivizing healthy lifestyles
Sponsored By:
→ FPOO | Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 shipping and taste the difference freshness makes at http://www.GetFresh324.com.
→ Seed | Ready to experience a probiotic that actually works? Go to https://www.Seed.com/Realfoodology and use code 25Realfoodology to get 25% off your first month.
→ CURED | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off Serenity Gummies with a monthly subscription. Just head to https://www.curednutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and
use the code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout.
→ Qualia | Qualia | Go to https://www.qualialife.com/REALFOODOLOGY for up to 50% off your purchase and use code REALFOODOLOGY for an additional 15%.
→ Lineage | Try it for yourself at https://www.lineageprovisions.com and use the code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:02:58 - How CrowdHealth Started
→ 00:05:51 - What is CrowdHealth
→ 00:09:18 - How it Works
→ 00:21:45 - The CrowdHealth Community
→ 00:25:21 - Why Healthcare is So Expensive
→ 00:26:35 - Doctors and Insurance
→ 00:28:40 - How CrowdHealth Covers Preventive Care
→ 00:34:59 - Surgeries and Medications
→ 00:37:08 - Doctor Database + Patient Support
→ 00:39:10 - Is Insurance a Scam?
→ 00:42:00 - Membership Rules
→ 00:47:44 - Incentivizing Healthy Lifestyles
→ 00:55:53 - Accepting Bitcoin
→ 00:57:13 - Concerns About Leaving Traditional Insurance
→ 01:00:50 - Where to Find CrowdHealth
Show Links:
→ https://www.joincrowdhealth.com | Andy’s offering $99/month for the first three months when you join and use the code REALFOODOLOGY.
Check Out:
→ Instagram
→ X
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Jul 8, 2025 • 59min
How to Build a Beautiful Jaw - For You and Your Kids | Dr. Hilary Fritsch
258: My conversation with Dr. Hilary Fritsch changed the way I think about my oral health. She’s an airway dentist, which means she specializes in the link between breathing and dentistry. She explains that there is a wrong way to breathe, and it can totally ruin your facial structure. Hilary is also a pro at helping babies and small children develop a healthy, beautiful jaw, and is calling out the things that interfere with that. You'll get practical tips to help yourself and your kids build a healthy jawline and get better sleep - it's literally a win-win.
Topics Discussed:
→ Why sleep apnea is a jaw disease
→ How mouth breathing is ruining your face
→ Tips for improving your jawline
→ How kids can develop healthy jaws
→ The benefits of a strong tongue
→ The difference between an airway dentist and a traditional dentist
Sponsored By:
→ Pacha | Go to https://station.page/pacha/contest/realfoodology and enter to win the ultimate self-care goody basket, curated especially for Realfoodology listeners!
→ MASA Chips | Go to https://MASAChips.com/Realfoodology and use code Realfoodology for 25% off your first order.
→ CURED Nutrition | Right now, CURED Nutrition is offering my listeners an exclusive 20% off Serenity Gummies with a monthly subscription. Just head to https://www.curednutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and
use the code REALFOODOLOGY at checkout.
→ JASPR | Get $400 off with code REALFOODOLOGY and link is https://www.jaspr.co/realfoodology.
Timestamps:
→ 00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:37 - Sleep Apnea
→ 02:39 - Diagnosing Sleep Apnea in Women
→ 04:10 - Palatial Widening
→ 06:40 - Breastfeeding + Jaw Development
→ 09:45 - Mouth Breathing and Jaw Line
→ 13:40 - Breathing Through Your Nose
→ 15:39 - Fixing Your Jawline as an Adult
→ 17:13 - Vivos Appliance
→ 18:31 - Treating TMJ, Clenching and Grinding
→ 20:44 - Airway Dentistry: An Emerging Field
→ 25:47 - Link Between Jaw and Teeth
→ 29:29 - Myofunctional Therapy: Tools + Benefits
→ 31:27 - Mouth Tape + Nasal Dilators
→ 33:53 - Understanding Tongue Tie
→ 36:58 - Tools and Tips for Kids’ Jaw Development
→ 44:39 - Mouth Breathing + Cavities
→ 45:47 - Can Kids Mouth Tape?
→ 47:45 - Signs Your Kids Are Mouth Breathing
→ 49:28 - When To Start Treatment for Kids
→ 52:37 - Starting Your Own Jaw Journey
→ 54:05 - Sleep Apnea is a Jaw Disease
→ 55:56 - How to Find the Right Dentist
→ 57:30 - Where to Find Hilary
Check Out Dr. Hilary Fritsch:
→ Instagram
→ Saddle Peak Dental
Check Out Courtney:
→ LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
→ Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
→ @realfoodology
→ www.realfoodology.com
→ My Immune Supplement by 2x4
→ Air Dr Air Purifier
→ AquaTru Water Filter
→ EWG Tap Water Database
Produced By: Drake Peterson

Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 21min
You Don’t Have to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy - Here’s Why | Jason Karp
257: Jason Karp is the CEO of Human Co, and, like me, eats, sleeps and breathes clean living. Jason’s company is behind Hu Chocolate, True Food Kitchen (one of my favorite restaurants), and Grove Collaborative, to name a few. He and I spoke together at the nutrition round table last fall in Washington D.C., and I am so excited for you to hear about the work he’s done to bring clean food to the masses and catch up with the rest of the world by banning synthetic food dyes.
Topics Discussed:
→ Why Jason has dedicated his life to clean food
→ The Hu Chocolate origin story
→ What it took to make True Food Kitchen 100% seed oil free
→ How Jason got states to ban synthetic food dyes (yay!)
→ Why you don’t have to be rich to eat clean
→ The future of the clean food movement
Timestamps:
→ 00:00:00 - Introduction
→ 00:04:20 - What Inspired Hu Kitchen
→ 00:05:57 - Jason’s Health Journey
→ 00:07:25 - Why He Started Hu Kitchen
→ 00:08:58 - How to Pronounce "Hu Kitchen"
→ 00:09:36 - The Story Behind Hu Chocolate
→ 00:12:02 - Why Hu Kitchen Closed
→ 00:13:58 - From Hu Kitchen to True Food Kitchen
→ 00:17:07 - When Jason Discovered True Food Kitchen
→ 00:19:01 - How True Food Kitchen Got Started
→ 00:20:07 - Removing Seed Oils from True Food Kitchen
→ 00:22:13 - Upgrading vs. Downgrading Ingredients
→ 00:23:45 - The Grim Truth: Cleaner Food = Lower Profits
→ 00:24:46 - How Grocery Stores Prioritize Unhealthy Low-Cost Foods
→ 00:27:59 - You Shouldn’t Need to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy
→ 00:30:46 - Changing the System to Favor Clean Ingredients
→ 00:34:49 - If You Can Afford a Smartphone, You Can Afford to Eat Healthy
→ 00:39:30 - Jason’s Clean Eating Challenge to His Networks
→ 00:41:59 - Why the Data on Seed Oils Feels Inconclusive
→ 00:43:28 - How ‘The China Study’ Got Debunked
→ 00:46:05 - Using Common Sense to Make Decisions on Diet
→ 00:49:20 - Synthetic Food Dyes in the United States vs. Abroad
→ 00:56:05 - Jason Role in the National Fight Against Food Dyes
→ 00:59:50 - How Clean Food Became Political
→ 01:05:28 - The Clean Food Movement Needs Compassion
→ 01:11:15 - Controlling the Controllables without Getting Neurotic
→ 01:15:45 - Jason Karp and HumanCo Social
Show Links:
→ HumanCo brands - Cosmic Bliss & Against The Grain Gourmet
→ Amara: HUMANCO (20% off discount) - Amara
→ True Food Kitchen: Mention to your server “JUSTTRUE10” for $10 off of $50 at True Food Kitchen through June 30th - TFK
→ Grove Collaborative: "HUMANCO" will give new customers 25% off orders $75+. Grove
Sponsored By:
→ Lineage Provisions | Try my favorite Grass-Fed Beef Tallow from Lineage Provisions. Use the code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off at lineageprovisions.com.
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