

Taste Radio
BevNET Inc.
The top podcast for anyone building a business in food or beverage, BevNET’s Taste Radio features interviews with the leaders and rising stars of our fast-evolving industry. The shows also include discussion on emerging trends, innovation and news of the week from our regular cadre of hosts from the BevNET and NOSH teams.
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Jul 3, 2018 • 44min
Ep. 118: How Remarkable Leaders Think; Insights & Advice From Four of The Finest
Nothing says 4th of July like BBQ, fireworks and a special edition of Taste Radio. In this episode we highlight the insights and business lessons from four remarkable leaders who joined us on the podcast in the first half of 2018:JUST founder and CEO Josh Tetrick offered his take on systemic problems within the current food system and the singular operating principle that drives JUST’s mission. REBBL CEO Sheryl O’Loughlin spoke about the role of empathy and compassion in building successful teams and relationships, and why expressing vulnerability is a critical component of leadership. We also listened as Jagermeister CEO Jeff Popkin explained the importance of being authentic and transparent with consumers, and RXBAR co-founder and CEO Peter Rahal discussed the steps leading up to a major turning point for the brand -- one that is often credited for its remarkable success. Show notes: 2:11: You’ve Got Mail -- The hosts respond to emails sent in by Taste Radio listeners and answer questions about upcycling food waste and working with manufacturing/co-packing partners. 9:50: Josh Tetrick, Founder/CEO, JUST -- Formerly known as Hampton Creek, JUST merges biotechnology and plant-based ingredients to create environmentally friendly foods, and is best known for its vegan mayo and cookie dough. The company recently introduced a vegan scrambled egg product and is currently working on lab-grown and plant-based meat. Tetrick originally joined us in Episode 95. 20:18: Sheryl O'Loughlin, CEO, REBBL -- Throughout her 25-year career as an entrepreneur and executive, O'Loughlin has been known a passionate leader with a deep commitment to social responsibility. Prior to joining REBBL, she led Clif Bar as its CEO for nearly 10 years and later co-founded and helmed organic baby food company Plum Organics. O'Loughlin was originally featured in Episode 97. 30:35: Jeff Popkin, CEO, Mast-Jagermeister -- With over two decades of experience in the beverage business, Popkin has been at the forefront of several emerging drink trends having held key leadership roles at Red Bull and Vita Coco. Popkin, who was originally featured in Episode 102, is currently the CEO of Mast-Jaegermeister U.S. 35:52: Peter Rahal, Co-Founder/CEO, RXBAR -- Launched in 2013, RxBar quickly became one of the fastest growing nutrition bar brands in the US, with net sales of approximately $120 million in 2017. RXBAR was famously acquire last year by the Kellogg Co. for $600 million. Rahal originally joined us in Episode 109. Brands in this episode: WTRMLN WTR, Misfit Juicery, JUST, REBBL, Clif Bar, Plum Organics, Jagermeister, Red Bull, Vita Coco, RXBAR

Jun 26, 2018 • 1h 2min
Ep. 117: How Does Industry Insider Bill Weiland Identify The Next Big Trends in Food?
How does an industry insider gauge the viability of up-and-coming trends? Well, if you’re Bill Weiland, you draw upon decades of experience... and you absolutely consult with your dogs. A veteran of the natural food business for nearly 40 years, Weiland is the founder and CEO of Presence Marketing, the largest independent broker for natural and organic brands in the U.S. He’s also the co-founder of BIGR Ventures, a growth equity fund focused on promising early-stage natural and organic products, and whose portfolio includes fast-growing brands REBBL, High Brew Coffee and Bonafide Provisions. In an conversation recorded at BevNET Live Summer 2018, we spoke with Weiland about cutting his teeth in natural foods, his perspective on how the industry has “grown up,” how he identifies disruptive brands and concepts and, as noted, why his dogs play such an important role in cultivating the product mix for Presence. Also in this episode: An interview with Alex Whitmore, the founder and CEO of premium chocolate maker Taza Chocolate. Recorded at Taza’s facility in Somerville, Mass., Whitmore discussed the story behind the brand, how its focused and uncompromising approach to quality has differentiated Taza from the competition, the evolution of its product mix, and why only recently the company decided to accept outside investment for the first time. This episode is presented by Simply Soupreme. Show notes: 2:44: Cocktails and Dreams (and Pâté and Chocolate): The hosts chat about a recent visit to and tour of the Taza Chocolate factory, mange on organic charcuterie from Les Trois Petits Cochons and test out a countertop cocktail machine called Bibo Barmaid. 13:00: Interview: Bill Weiland, Founder/CEO, Presence Marketing: In a wide-ranging interview, Weiland discussed his background and how he cut his teeth in the food and beverage business, key figures and mentors that helped shape his career, surprising trends and categories that have taken hold in food and beverage, and opportunities and challenges for natural and organic brands as e-commerce retail continues to expand and evolve. 36:38: Interview: Alex Whitmore, Founder/CEO, Taza Chocolate: An influential name in premium chocolate, Taza churns out its bold flavored, organic chocolate using the same stone-ground production methods since it launched 2006. The brand has been at the forefront of the premium chocolate category, driven by high quality standards in sourcing and ingredients. At the company’s production facility, located just a few miles from BevNET HQ, Whitmore spoke about Taza’s origins, the development of its brand and vertical integration strategy, and the company’s approach to innovation. Brands in this episode: Les Trois Petits Cochons, Bibo Barmaid, Taza Chocolate, REBBL, Bonafide Provisions, Ancient Nutrition, Eternal Water, High Brew Coffee

Jun 19, 2018 • 1h 6min
Ep. 116: Secrets of a Perfect ‘Overnight Success’; Successful Habits of a Kombucha Queen
When it debuted in 2005, Perfect Bar was a tough sell to retailers unfamiliar with the concept of a refrigerated protein bar. But Leigh and Bill Keith, who co-founded the brand along with four other siblings and developed the products based on a family recipe that uses healthier ingredients, slowly achieved traction for Perfect Bar through persistence and a focused business strategy. The brand is now carried at thousands of retail chains across the country and is the leader of the blooming set. We caught up with Leigh and Bill at NOSH Live Summer 2018 and discussed the company’s journey to become, in their words, a 13-year overnight success, and how intense sampling efforts and grassroots metrics were critical to the brand’s development. The British novelist and author William Thackeray is quoted as saying that “Successful people aren’t born that way. They become successful by establishing the habit of doing things unsuccessful people don’t like to do.” But what are those things, those habits? We’ll be asking that very question to many successful entrepreneurs in new and upcoming episodes of the podcast, starting with Daina Trout, who is the co-founder and CEO of leading kombucha brand Health-Ade. In an interview recorded at BevNET Live Summer 2018, Daina discussed specific habits that have helped her achieve repeatable, positive outcomes and avoid routine mistakes. Also in this episode: A review of recent top headlines in the beverage business with BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero. Show notes: 2:45: BTS at BevNET Live/NOSH Live -- The hosts discuss a few behind-the-scenes stories from the NOSH Live sampling experience, beta-testing and brand introductions at BevNET Live (Rise Brewing Co., meet Rise Kombucha!), Mike’s sticker pranks and more. 12:50: Interview: Bill & Leigh Keith, Co-Founders, Perfect Bar -- BevNET CMO Mike Schneider met with Bill and Leigh at NOSH Live Summer 2018 where they spoke about the brand’s origins and founding story, the innovative way that Perfect Bar sourced data in its early days, how changes in grocery and creativity were crucial in its growth and the importance of the family story for branding. 43:00: In the Newsroom -- BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero joins the podcast to discuss the recent decision by Howard Schultz to step down as chairman of Starbucks, and Miller Coors’ acquisition of San Francisco-based kombucha brand Clearly Kombucha. 46:44: Interview: Daina Trout, Co-Founder/CEO, Health-Ade Kombucha -- Trout explains how a monthly strategy day and one-on-one weekly manager meetings have supported the company’s growth and her development as a leader and why accepting every media opportunity turned out to be a bad habit that she has since changed. Brands in this episode: Hella Cocktail Co., Evy Tea, Rise Brewing Co. Rise Kombucha, Perfect Bar, Starbucks, Clearly Kombucha, Canvas, Health-Ade Kombucha

Jun 12, 2018 • 1h 2min
Ep. 115: How Death Wish Coffee Went From Brink of Failure to One of Amazon’s Top Brands
A disillusioned accountant quits his job and enters the coffee industry, where he builds a thriving direct-to-consumer business selling high-test coffee beans -- that’s the short take on Mike Brown, the founder and CEO of Death Wish Coffee. But there’s a longer tale to be told, and in this week’s episode we sat down with Brown, who launched Death Wish in 2012, to talk about his unconventional brand, which is promoted as “The World’s Strongest Coffee.” In our conversation, Brown discussed the company’s origins and early struggles, the evolution of its e-commerce strategy and approach to community-building, and the amazing story of how Death Wish scored a free Super Bowl ad. To pair with the coffee, we also have a serving of pancakes. While Aunt Jemima and Bisquick may be the two best known brands in what’s traditionally been a sleepy category, retailers aren’t sleeping on Birch Benders, which launched in 2011 and markets traditional and functional pancake mixes, including its best-selling Paleo variety. The fastest-growing brand in the category across all channels, Birch Benders products are now available nationwide in more than 8,000 retailers, including Target, Whole Foods, Safeway, Sprouts. We spoke with founders Matt LaCasse and Lizzi Ackerman about how they identified and assessed the market opportunity for a premium pancake mix, why gut instinct is a key component of the brand’s innovation strategy and how they overcame a global egg shortage that nearly derailed a critical retail partnership. Show notes: 1:24: NYC, VC, NBS: On location at BevNET Live Summer 2018, the hosts remarked on a pervasive sense of enthusiasm at the event, discussed John Craven’s interview with Vita Coco co-founder and CEO Mike Kirban, and shared their thoughts on a few of the participants from New Beverage Showdown 15. 8:50: Interview: Mike Brown, Founder/CEO, Death Wish Coffee -- In our interview, recorded in the Taste Radion studio at BevNET HQ, Brown spoke about what makes the company’s e-commerce strategy so effective and explained why customer acquisition is “all about a relationship.” He also explained how a feature on “Good Morning America” almost ruined the brand, the company’s all-in approach to winning a free Super Bowl ad, and why he believes that “brands will have to be the media companies of the future.” 39:22: Interview: Matt LaCasse and Lizzi Ackerman, Co-Founders, Birch Benders -- Recorded at NOSH Live Summer 2018, LaCasse and Ackerman explained how they identified an opportunity to innovate in the pancake mix category and how they achieved traction with the brand. They also discussed the role of data in business planning and new product development and why “at the end the day, you have to trust your gut about things.” Ackerman also explained why it’s important for entrepreneurs to “get a little over your head sometimes.” 59:36: Tribute: Anthony Bourdain -- Ray and Mike shared their thoughts on the recent passing of Bourdain, a cultural and culinary icon whose influence was felt across the food and beverage world. Brands in this episode: Vita Coco, Origin Almond, Death Wish Coffee, Birch Benders

Jun 5, 2018 • 1h 5min
Ep. 114: Why Blue Bottle Coffee Founder James Freeman is Focused on The ‘Negative Space’
Even as one of the pioneers of the super-premium coffee set often referred to as “third-wave,” Blue Bottle founder James Freeman says he was never interested in being ahead of the curve. For Freeman, creating an innovative and lasting brand is “about working on the negative space.” Joining Taste Radio for a conversation in this week’s episode, Freeman explained how Blue Bottle has built a unique platform differentiated by ultra high quality products and service by “figuring out what is there and shouldn’t [be] rather than figuring out is not there and should be there”. The strategy has attracted a loyal consumer base, as well as a powerful strategic partner in Nestlé , which last year acquired a majority stake in the company for a reported $500 million. Listen to our full-length interview with Freeman, who also discussed the origins and development of Blue Bottle, his perspective on the premiumization of coffee and his vision for the future of the company. Also included in this episode: a conversation with Jesse Merrill, who’s attempting to change the perception of cottage cheese with innovative and fast-growing brand Good Culture. Merrill explained the company’s approach to creating an elevated consumption experience, detailed the two core values that guide its innovation strategy and discussed why he believes in an attitude vs. aptitude hiring process. And in the latest edition of Elevator Talk, we spoke with Melissa Mutterspaugh, the founder of Mountain Mel’s, a maker of medicinal herbal teas formulated for holistic health and well-being. Show notes: 2:02: NOSHing Live: On location at NOSH Live Summer 2018, the hosts discuss products and presentations featured at the event. 10:05: Interview: James Freeman, Founder, Blue Bottle Coffee -- Freeman spoke with BevNET assistant editor Martín Caballero about the remarkable journey of third-wave coffee roaster and retailer Blue Bottle Coffee. Freeman discussed the company’s business and innovation strategy, Starbucks’ influence on the coffee business; why he believes “enthusiasm is infectious,” and his dream to “drive across the U.S. and never stop for an inadequate coffee.” 37:16: Interview: Jesse Merrill, CEO/Co-Founder, Good Culture -- In an interview with Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg, Merrill spoke about how the Good Culture has attempted to change the perception of cottage cheese by creating an elevated consumption experience, the two core values that guide its innovation strategy and why he believes in an attitude vs. aptitude hiring process. 1:02:20: Elevator Talk: Melissa Mutterspaugh, Owner, Mountain Mel's -- Mountain Mel’s is a maker of medicinal herbal teas formulated for holistic health and well-being. From mental clarity and stress relief to digestion and immunity, each variety of the brand’s loose leaf teas is designed for a specific function. We spoke with Mutterspaugh about the mission and growth strategy for her budding brand. Brands in this episode: Bohana, Highland Farm Foods, Rind Snacks, Watermelon Road, Peeled Snacks, Athletic Brewing Co., Blue Bottle Coffee, Peet’s Coffee, Starbucks, Activate Drinks, Good Culture, Mountain Mel’s

May 29, 2018 • 1h 3min
Ep. 113: “Ocean's Eleven" Director On Beverage Biz: 'Like Shooting a Movie Every Day'
Behind the camera, Academy Award-winning director Steven Soderbergh has taken on all types of challenges in filmmaking, from shooting low-budget indie movies with a handheld camera to helming blockbuster franchise flicks starring some of Hollywood’s biggest names (the “Ocean’s Eleven” series). However, as he tells it, that’s nothing compared to running a spirits brand. “This is like shooting a movie every day for the rest of your life,” he said in an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio. “There’s just no pause button. And if you slow down, the person behind you with their brand is just going to run right over you.” Soderbergh is the creator of Singani63, a unique spirit distilled from grapes indigenous to the Andes Mountains of Bolivia. Previously a devoted vodka drinker, Soderbergh fell for singani while on location (in Bolivia) filming the movie “Che” in 2007 and felt compelled to bring it to the U.S. market. Technically defined as a brandy, singani is relatively unknown to American consumers and Soderbergh has had a front row seat to the challenges of launching a brand with a high education factor. As part of our conversation, Soderbergh discussed how he’s leaned on his experience as a storyteller to drive the creative vision for the brand, parallels between the movie and beverage businesses and why he’s having more fun running a spirits company than filmmaking. In our second interview, we go from singani to Sheets-- as in Nate Sheets, the founder and CEO of the top-selling honey brand in America, Nature Nate’s. A former marketing executive, Sheets started with a single beehive but now has a company that will produce over 20 million lbs. of honey this year. Sheets explained how the combination of a highly effective label revamp and an intense focus on micro-marketing and innovation helped fuel the company’s evolution. He also discussed why his wear-it-on-your-sleeve spirituality has been a key component of the company’s mission and business strategy. And in the latest edition of Elevator Talk, we’re joined by Hansen Sheih, the founder of One Culture Foods, a maker of Asian-inspired sauces and instant noodle cups. Show notes: 2:30: A Sweet and Spicy Homecoming: The hosts crunch and munch their way through a swath of snacks brought back from the Sweets & Snacks Expo, an annual convention showcasing new candy and snack products. They also feel the heat from samples of Olde Virden Red Hot sprinkles and chat about a recent interview with Mike Brown, the founder of “World’s Strongest Coffee” brand Death Wish Coffee. 13:51: Interview: Steven Soderbergh, Filmmaker & Creator of Singani63 -- From critically acclaimed films “Sex, Lies and Videotape” and “The Limey” to Hollywood blockbusters “Erin Brockovich,” and “Traffic,” Soderbergh has been hailed as one of the most influential filmmakers of his generation. While the Academy Award-winning director continues to make his mark in the movie business, he’s hoping to do the same off-screen as a beverage entrepreneur. We sat down with Soderbergh at ThirstBoston, an industry event showcasing innovation and education in the world of craft cocktails, where he spoke about his unique spirit brand Singani63 and his experience wading through the beverage business. 36:33: Interview: Nathan Sheets, President/Chief Steward, Nature Nate’s -- In an interview recorded at BevNET HQ, Sheets discussed the rise of Nature Nate’s from its humble beginnings to being the number one honey brand in America. As part of our conversation, he explained how micro-marketing has yielded significant traction for the brand and why he believes that “if you’re not failing enough, you’re not trying enough new things.” 58:41: Elevator Talk: Hansen Sheih, Founder/CEO, One Culture Foods -- A maker of sauces and instant noodle cups infused with global flavors, One Culture Foods is focused on creating convenient, crafted products for at-home chefs and everyday consumers alike.

May 22, 2018 • 57min
Ep. 112: Pirate’s Booty Founder: ‘Don’t Focus on The Money. Focus on Yourself.'
Pretty much everyone has heard of Pirate’s Booty, the ubiquitous puffed cheese snack known for its quirky branding and eat-the-whole-bag appeal. If you’re in the food and beverage business, you might have heard of Robert Ehrlich, the creator of Pirate’s Booty. But to know the name is not necessarily to know the man. Inventive, eccentric, fearless, creative, and above all fun, Ehrlich has been extremely successful as a food entrepreneur; the sale of Pirate’s Booty netted him over $70 million. Money, however, hasn’t changed his passion for new and innovative ways to disrupt the food business. Inthis episode of Taste Radio, Ehrlich discussed what he’s learned from the Pirate’s Booty days, his approach to brand and product ideation, and why he may be creating new snacks until he’s 99 years old. Also in this episode: a conversation with Jim, Jake and Jordan DeCicco, the brothers and founders of Sunniva Super Coffee, a brand of functional coffee drinks enhanced with MCT oil and protein. While the DeCicco brothers have only been in business for a couple years, their youthfulness in age (Jim, the oldest brother, is just 25) and experience hasn’t stopped them from getting off to a roaring start, highlighted by an appearance on “Shark Tank” earlier this year. The DeCiccos discussed the origins of Sunniva, swimming with the Sharks and how their networking prowess has resulted in a roster of remarkable relationships (including WeWork co-founder Adam Neumann and NFL legend Boomer Esiason). And in the latest edition of Elevator Talk, we’re joined by Breezy Griffith, the co-founder and CEO of Skinny Dipped, a young, fast-growing brand of chocolate-covered almonds. Show notes: 2:25: Network With Interesting Folks and Hire Them: The hosts riff on networking opportunities at the upcoming BevNET Live and NOSH Live Summer 2018 conferences, with 1,000 industry professionals expected to attend the events. They also chat about a recent Boston Magazine profile on Bill Creelman, the founder and CEO of surging sparkling water brand Spindrift, featuring context on the man, brand and category from BevNET CEO John Craven, who’s quoted extensively in article; the U.S. launch of U.K.-based brand and New Beverage Showdown 13 finalist Ugly Water; and BevNET’s affordable and effective job board. 10:15: Interview: Rob Ehrlich, Founder, Pirate’s Booty/Vegan’s Rob’s -- Recorded at Natural Products Expo West 2018, Ehrlich discussed his post-Pirate’s Booty business ventures, including Skinny Pop and Vegan Rob’s. He explained why he’s “always taking pitches,” constantly iterating and innovating with Vegan Rob’s by focusing on fast-moving trends and staying close to the ground by listening to feedback from “store employees, to consumers, to the kids to even the people on the line who make the products.” 29:24: Interview: The Brothers DeCicco, Founders, Sunniva Super Coffee -- We’ve heard many Taste Radio guests say that you can’t make it in the food and beverage business without hustle. Well, the word defines Jim, Jake and Jordan DeCicco, brothers and founders of Sunniva Super Coffee. In an interview recorded at BevNET HQ, they explained how their hard-charging approach to business and networking has resulted in the brand’s early success and an appearance on the ABC hit show “Shark Tank.” 54:04: Elevator Talk: Breezy Griffith, Co-Founder/CEO, Skinny Dipped -- Launched on a dining room table in Seattle, Skinny Dipped, a young, fast-growing brand of chocolate-covered almonds was co-founded by Breezy Griffith, who shared with us the vision and grand plans for the brand, all included in this edition of Elevator Talk. Brands in this episode: Madi, Spindrift, Ugly Drinks, Pirate’s Booty, Vegan Rob’s, Sunniva Super Coffee, Skinny Dipped

May 15, 2018 • 1h 11min
Ep. 111: Sweet Leaf/Deep Eddy Co-Founder: 'You Can’t Read The Book. You Gotta Live It.'
When it comes to entrepreneurship, Clayton Christopher believes that “you can’t read the book; you gotta live it.” And live it he has; Christopher is best known as the co-founder of Sweet Leaf Tea, acquired by Nestlé Waters in 2011, and Deep Eddy Vodka, which just five years after its launch was sold to Heaven Hill Distilling for a reported $400 million. Yet even as a highly successful entrepreneur and investor, Christopher, currently the co-founder and managing director of private equity firm CAVU, has always looked beyond simply achieving a desired end result. In an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio, he urged business owners “to appreciate and cherish the journey,” a perspective that will yield a rare and valuable currency few will ever grasp. As part of our conversation, Christopher also delved into why he believes that “the need for human capital is greater than it’s ever been,” how board and management teams can most effectively work together, and why entrepreneurs should spend less time on adding new distribution and instead focus on “creating a success story” inside individual stores. This episode also features an interview with another “kitchen to exit” entrepreneur: John McDonald, the founder of iconic craft beer company Boulevard Brewing. McDonald, who founded Boulevard nearly three decades ago, is something of a godfather in the beer business. In our conversation, he spoke about the origins of the company and its early days as a pioneer of the craft beer category through to its 2013 acquisition by Duvel Moortgat USA. And in this week’s edition of Elevator Talk, we hear from Kabir Gambhir, the founder and CEO of innovative beverage brand Bevea. Show notes: 2:42: Four Letter Brands LIVE -- The hosts chat about recent visits to BevNET HQ by BKON, maker of innovative brewing machines and Waku, a wellness tea brewed with 20 super herbs from the Andes Mountains of Ecuador. The hosts also discuss the speaker lineups at the upcoming BevNET Live Summer 2018 and NOSH Live Summer 2018. 12:09: Interview: Clayton Christopher, Co-Founder, Sweet Leaf Tea/Deep Eddy Vodka/CAVU -- At Natural Products Expo West 2018, Christopher sat down BevNET editor-in-chief Jeff Klineman and discussed his remarkable journey as an entrepreneur and how he advises and invests in fast-growing brands. 36:58: Interview: John McDonald, Founder, Boulevard Brewing Co. -- Boulevard has led the craft scene in the Midwest and is the largest specialty brewer in the region. Brewbound assistant editor Justin Kendall recently visited Boulevard HQ in Kansas City, Missouri and as part of their conversation, McDonald shared war stories from Boulevard’s journey and why he never allowed himself to believe that the company was going to succeed. 1:04:50: Elevator Talk: Kabir Gambhir, Founder/CEO, Bevea -- Gambir is the founder and CEO of Bevea, a recently launched brand that markets innovatic tonics made with organic coffee fruit, ginger and botanicals. Kabir recently visited BevNET’s West Coast branch in San Diego, where he joined us for an interview included in this edition of Elevator Talk. Brands in this episode: BKON, Waku, Coolhaus, Hippeas, Chef’d, Biena, Kodiak Cakes, Essentia, Vita Coco, Sweet Leaf Tea, Deep Eddy Vodka, Boulevard Brewing Co., Bevea

May 8, 2018 • 1h 7min
Ep. 110: Foodstirs Founders Explain Importance of Indulging 'Personal Mission'
If you are going to have the occasional indulgent dessert, at least make sure it’s worth indulging on. Greg Fleishman, a veteran CPG executive and co-founder of organic baking kit brand Foodstirs, has made that the simple guiding principle of Foodstirs, the organic baking kit brand he helped launch alongside co-founder Galit Laibow and actress Sarah Michelle Gellar in 2014. Launched as a direct-to-consumer subscription service before expanding into retail, the brand has set out to disrupt a sleepy baking mix category with innovative products that merge high-quality, sustainable ingredients and indulgent flavors. In an interview with the Foodstirs founders included in this episode of Taste Radio, Gellar explained that they view themselves as customers of the brand as much as owners, an outlook that’s shaped how Foodstirs considers innovation and ingredients. “I think we’ve elevated sourcing when it comes to baking,” Gellar said. “I feel very confident in saying there is no baking mix whose ingredients cannot only be sourced as ethically [and] that tastes as delicious as ours. It’s been a personal mission for us. And when I say personal mission, I mean that literally.” Listen to our full interview with Gellar, Laibow and Fleishman in which they discuss Foodstirs’ rapid growth, the brand’s approach to new product development and innovation, and why they see the brand as taking a new tack on fresh for center store grocery. Also included in this episode: a conversation with Dan Schorr, the founder and CEO of provocative ice cream brand Vice Cream. As part of our discussion, Schorr explained how his personal journey as marketing executive and cancer survivor has shaped the business and marketing strategy behind the “unapologetically indulgent” Vice Cream brand, which has grown quickly in the two years since its launch and now available in more than 5,000 grocery stores across the U.S. We also review a spate of significant name leadership changes and corporate earnings reports with BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero and chat with Matt Oscamou, the co-founder of Weller, a brand of hemp-infused coconut bites in the latest edition of Elevator Talk. Show notes: 2:21: Bust a Move -- The hosts banter about the recent office expansion at BevNET HQ. Landis chats about his recent visit to probiotic beverage company Urban Farm Fermentory. The hosts also discuss the speaker lineups at BevNET Live and NOSH Live. 11:28: Interview: Sarah Michelle Gellar, Galit Laibow & Greg Fleishman, Co-Founders, Foodstirs -- Speaking of our live events… if you attended or livestreamed our NOSH Live Winter 2016 conference you may recall our interview with the founders of Foodstirs, a maker of organic baking kits. In the time since Foodstirs has ramped up its retail presence and extended its product mix. Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg met up with Sarah, Galit and Greg at Natural Product Expo West 2018 where they spoke about the mission, positioning and business strategy behind the brand. 35:29: Interview: Dan Schorr, Founder/CEO, Vice Cream -- A provocative ice cream brand is trying to scoop the competition with an “unapologetically indulgent” approach. It’s called Vice Cream, and there’s a compelling backstory to the brand and founder, Dan Schorr, who visited BevNET HQ for a conversation about the origins of Vice Cream and its unorthodox approach to marketing. 59:57: In the Newsroom -- BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero joins the podcast to discuss notable leadership changes and earnings reports in the non-alcoholic beverage business. 1:03:12: Elevator Talk: Matt Oscamou, Co-Founder, Weller -- Weller, a brand of sweet and savory hemp-infused coconut bites, is promoted as “a new kind of wellness.” We caught up with co-founder Matt Oscamou at Expo West 2018, where he gave us the pitch on Weller and how it’s attempting to make its mark in the snack aisle, all included in this edition of Elevator Talk.

May 1, 2018 • 1h 11min
Ep. 109: To Build a $600 Million Brand, RXBAR's Peter Rahal Got a Little Uncomfortable
Here’s a hypothetical question: What if we were to tell you that one could start a food company and in less than five years sell it for $600 million? Would that be something you’d be interested in? (That was a rhetorical question.) As unlikely as it sounds, that’s exactly what happened to Peter Rahal, the co-founder and CEO of RXBAR. Launched in 2013, RXBAR, which markets clean label protein bars, quickly became one of the fastest growing snack brands in the U.S. The company had net sales of approximately $120 million in 2017 and in October was acquired by the Kellogg Company for the aforementioned $600 million. We recently sat down with Rahal to discuss the incredible growth of RXBAR, including the decision that sparked a major turning point for the brand, and how being “miserably uncomfortable for the past five years” has helped him grow as a leader. Here’s another hypothetical question: what if you could buy a countertop appliance that would enable you to make RXBARs at home? How about one that could make your favorite style of beer? Well, you’re in luck! That’s if you want the magic beer machine, not the protein bar one; that doesn’t exist…. yet. Founded in 2010, PicoBrew is a fast-growing maker of automatic brewing appliances designed for small craft beer producers and homebrewers. Co-founder and CEO Bill Mitchell joined us for an interview about how the appliances are disrupting the beer industry’s traditional three-tier system, the company’s long-term vision is and how he expects it to evolve and expand into other beverage categories. Now, how about a snack with that homebrewed beverage? Consider AvoLuv, a new brand of chips made from avocados. Founder and CEO Eric Healy spoke with us about the development and business strategy behind AvoLuv and what he’s looking for from investors -- all included in the latest edition of Elevator Talk. Show notes: 2:35: Trendspotting In South America -- Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg recently returned from a trip to Chile and Argentina and shared her thoughts on food culture, interesting ingredients, and novel brands in the two countries. The hosts also chat about recent visits to BevNET HQ from the founders of Ruby Rockets and Nitro Beverage Co. and encourage other brand owners to make a trip to see us. 9:58: Interview: Peter Rahal, Co-Founder/CEO, RXBAR -- Six months after the sale of RXBAR, Peter Rahal spoke with Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg about the launch and rapid development of the company. Among topics of discussion: how Rahal, a self-described introvert, was forced into uncomfortable situations that eventually made him a better leader; how the brand’s revamp was a “leap of faith” and why Rahal believed that the company “couldn’t play the same game, from a design perspective, as everyone else,” and “needed to take a risk.” 39:13: Interview: Bill Mitchell, Co-Founder/CEO, PicoBrew -- In its eight years on the market, PicoBrew has has attracted significant interest from consumers, professional brewers and investors, having raised $20 million from 50 funding partners, including Zx Ventures, the global incubation arm of Anheuser-Busch InBev. Mitchell sat down with Brewbound editor Chris Furnari and discussed the company’s origins and business strategy, including how it plans to disrupt the market for hyperlocal craft beer. 1:04:39: Elevator Talk: Eric Healy, Founder/CEO, AvoLuv -- We met Eric Healy at Natural Products Expo West 2018, where the founder and CEO spoke with us about his avocado-based snack brand AvoLuv and the innovation behind its unique products. Brands in this episode: The Not Company, RxBar, Coronado Brewing Co., Rogue Ales, Avoluv