

Taste Radio
BevNET Inc.
The top podcast for anyone building a business in food or beverage, BevNET’s Taste Radio features interviews with the leaders and rising stars of our fast-evolving industry. The shows also include discussion on emerging trends, innovation and news of the week from our regular cadre of hosts from the BevNET and NOSH teams.
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Tell us what you think at ask@tasteradio.com. You can also email us if you are interested in Taste Radio sponsorship opportunities. And if you like the podcast, share it with a colleague, will ya?
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Nov 25, 2022 • 21min
It’s Time To Make It Happen.
On the cusp of BevNET’s winter conferences in Santa Monica, the hosts spoke about how attendees can utilize the variety of resources available at the events and leverage connections with the BevNET team to engage with like-minded founders, industry executives and investors. They also hinted about a mystery speaker that no one will want to miss and riffed on some of their favorite new products sent to the office in recent weeks. Show notes: 0:45: Prep Work. An A-List Mystery. And The @BevNETMike Award Goes To… – Ray got it right (finally!) to kick off the episode before Mike and Jacqui shared their favorite parts of the winter events. The hosts then spoke about early-stage founders that were doubted when they launched their businesses but have since created iconic brands. Ray offered his (potentially TMI) pre-event grooming habits and discussed his love for a limited-time “boozy” ice cream and spicy varieties of plant-based chicken nuggets, Mike munched on meat sticks, bars and tamales, John highlighted honey-sweetened shots and non-alcoholic wine and spirits brands and Jacqui snacked on nuts and sipped on a canned cocktail. Brands in this episode: Athletic Brewing, Liquid Death, Jeni’s, Grillo’s, Uncle Nearest, Chomps, BelliWelli, Fillo’s, HoneyDrop, SomethingElse, Golden Rule Spirits, Jukes, Dr. Praeger's, Pocket Latte, Velvet Llama

Nov 22, 2022 • 42min
$35K To $35 Million In 3.5 Years. This Is The Story Of Bachan’s.
There are fast-growing brands, and then there is Bachan’s. Launched in 2019, Bachan’s markets a line of soy-based condiments that it describes as “Japanese Barbecue Sauce.” Admired for their versatility, the products are commonly used for cooking barbecue and also as a marinade, finishing sauce and in stir-fry. Founder and CEO Justin Gill developed the brand based off of a family heirloom recipe and named it as an homage to his grandmother. Bachan’s fanatical consumer following has driven its ambitious retail strategy. Its four flavors – The Original, Hot and Spicy, Yuzu, and Gluten-Free – are available at over 11,000 stores across the U.S., including Costco, Whole Foods, Publix, Sprouts, Target, Kroger and The Fresh Market. Nationwide distribution has sparked surging revenue. Just three-and-a-half years after its debut, Bachan’s expects to generate $35 million in sales by the end of 2022. Investors have taken note: in September the company announced a $13 million Series A funding round led by private equity firm Sonoma Brands Capital. The investment will be deployed to expand Bachan’s retail footprint and develop new products. In this episode, Gill spoke about how the brand’s rapid start was fueled by six years of preparation and planning prior to its debut, the intentionality of the brand’s label and package design, why he credits a focus on high quality ingredients as key to consumer loyalty, his thoughtful approach to demand planning and how the company evaluated potential investors. Show notes: 0:45: Justin Gill, Founder & CEO, Bachan's – Gill spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his passion for surfing and background in jiu-jitsu before discussing how a heritage trip to Japan and Cambodia impacted his decision to launch a food brand. He also spoke about why he felt Bachan’s was “pretty buttoned up” upon its launch, going for an iconic look with the label design and how the description of “Japanese barbecue sauce” is both familiar and specific. Later, he explained why he’s focused on sustainable growth, how Bachan’s has dramatically scaled production while maintaining product quality, how risk-taking paid off amid a supply chain crisis and why the best investment deals are ones in which no one gets exactly what they wanted. Brands in this episode: Bachan’s, Huy Fong, Krave

Nov 15, 2022 • 44min
Consumers Crave An Immersive Experience, And All The Details Matter. Tacombi Has Shown The Way.
When Tacombi founder and CEO Dario Wolos reflects upon the origins and development of his Mexican-inspired restaurant chain, he gets a bit nostalgic. Launched out of a retrofitted VW bus parked on the shores of Playa del Carmen, Tacombi was born out of Wolos’ passion to share Mexican culture through authentic food, hospitality and experiences. Sixteen years after selling its first taco, Tacombi is in the midst of a major expansion during which it will open at least 75 new locations across the U.S. over the next five years. The growth plan is supported by a $27.5 million funding round that the company completed in December 2021 and was led by Enlightened Hospitality Investments, the growth equity fund affiliated with restaurateur Danny Meyer’s Union Square Hospitality Group. Meanwhile, Tacombi’s consumer packaged goods brand, Vista Hermosa, which markets tortilla chips, corn and flour tortillas and a new line of frozen burritos, is rapidly expanding its retail footprint to over 800 stores including Whole Foods and Bristol Farms. Tacombi is Wolos’ life’s work – he conceived the concept as a teenager – and although the new restaurants and retail expansion will bring his vision closer to reality, the journey and experiences that came with it have come to define who he is as an entrepreneur and a leader. In this episode, Wolos spoke about how he applied learnings from the early days of Tacombi to its current business operations, how the timing of Tacombi’s launch and development in the U.S. has benefited its growth, why he described the creation of a CPG brand as a natural evolution for the company and the decision to align with Danny Meyer and Enlightened Hospitality. Show notes: 0:45: Dario Wolos, Founder/CEO, Tacombi & Vista Hermosa – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Wolos at Tacombi’s “oficina” in New York City, where the entrepreneur spoke about setting down roots in the Bowery neighborhood, Vista Hermosa’s new Burrito Bueno line, what spurred his decision to exit a hot market for startup tech and why he chose to launch Tacombi in Mexico. He also explained how the diaspora of Mexican immigrants in the U.S. helped generate greater interest in the country’s cuisine and authentic food, why sourcing high quality produce is challenging and yet key to Tacombi’s menu strategy and how the creation of Vista Hermosa aligned with the restaurant’s focus on authenticity and premium ingredients. Later, Wolos spoke about how Tacombi is attempting to reach consumers at every touchpoint, including online, how the company was bootstrapped until the deal with Enlightened Hospitality and why he reflects upon the past when considering the accelerated pace for opening new restaurants. Brands in this episode: Tacombi, Vista Hermosa

Nov 11, 2022 • 41min
The Underestimated Value Of Showing Up. And How A Little Oomph Goes A Long Way.
In this episode, the hosts explained why founders who regularly attend industry events are often better positioned to support their brands than those who don’t, riffed on the impact of sleek and clever packaging and marveled at a sparkling water brand’s latest LTO. This episode also features an interview with Michael Lewis, the founder and general manager of oomph!, a new brand of low-sugar, functional candy chews and gummies that is backed by venture capital firm Science Inc., an investor in Liquid Death and Dollar Shave Club, among others. Show notes: 0:45: No, These Are Not Dad Jokes. Long Lists Getting Longer. Some Standout Package Design. – Ray got the show going with a few truths before he, John and Mike spoke about why networking opportunities at BevNET Live and NOSH Live are unlike those at other industry events. They also highlighted a new olive oil brand with a catchy name and unusual label, why Ray was particularly impressed with a recently launched plant-based breakfast sandwich, an RTD cocktail whose package resembles the shape of a CD and a collaboration that, TBH, is pretty special. 20:20: Michael Lewis, Founder and General Manager, Oomph! – Lewis met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at Natural Products Expo East 2022 where he spoke about how Science Inc., which developed and incubated oomph, evaluated the opportunity for better-for-you candy, why the venture capital firm saw him as the right person to lead the charge, how oomph is applying learnings from early customer feedback into its marketing and communication strategy and why innovation is top of mind. Brands in this episode: Dream Pops, Single & Fat, Ferm Fatale, Alpha Foods, Graza, Brightland, Cocchi, Whitebox Cocktails, Sap’s, Aura Bora, Chubby Snacks, TBH, Transcendence Coffee, oomph!, Liquid Death, SmartSweets

Nov 8, 2022 • 47min
Business IS Personal. And It’s How Sahra Nguyen Is Reshaping An Industry.
Sahra Nguyen is a born storyteller. Her latest opus is helping change the way the world perceives Vietnamese coffee – and a lot of people are listening. An award-winning documentary filmmaker, Nguyen is also the founder and CEO of Nguyen Coffee Supply, a direct trade specialty coffee company based in New York City. Launched in 2018, the company’s mission is “to diversify the coffee industry, increase the visibility of Vietnamese producers and transform the landscape through sustainable coffee farming.” Nguyen Coffee Supply buys certified organic coffee beans directly from a fourth-generation coffee farmer in Vietnam and roasts them in small batches in Brooklyn. The company primarily markets whole Robusta beans in a variety of styles and taste profiles, along with brewing tools and a recently launched line of ready-to-drink coffee. The products are almost entirely sold direct-to-consumer via the company’s website; however, the brand is gradually making its way into brick-and-mortar retail. Earlier this year, Nguyen Coffee Supply raised $2.6 million in seed round in support of new distribution, innovation and marketing initiatives. In this episode, Nguyen spoke about the company’s origins and why she is adamant about changing the narrative around Robusta beans, why incorporating her personality and background into brand communication and products is both challenging and highly effective, and the one word that drives the company’s innovation strategy. Show notes: 0:45: Sahra Nguyen, Founder & CEO, Nguyen Coffee Supply – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Nguyen at a shared roasting facility in Brooklyn where they riffed on their Boston roots and favorite cocktails before the entrepreneur explained the “two-pronged light bulb moment” that led to the development of Nguyen Coffee Supply. She also spoke about why early communication about the company was focused on Vietnamese culture, how she convinced the specialty coffee industry to embrace Robusta beans and how she measures the impact of social media. Later, she explained how she become more comfortable with being the face and primary communicator for the brand, despite being an introvert, the company’s effective PR strategy and goals for B2B and B2C audiences, and how a keyword analysis helped Nguyen Coffee Supply determine the most important elements of the RTD line. Brands in this episode: Nguyen Coffee Supply, La Colombe, Chobani

Nov 1, 2022 • 31min
The Most ‘Outstanding’ Advantage A Brand Can Have Is One That Many Overlook
Founded on the belief that mindful eating shouldn't mean sacrificing on taste or texture, Outstanding Foods markets plant-based salty snacks that are based on quintessential favorites. Launched in 2018, Outstanding Foods was developed by serial entrepreneur Bill Glaser and chef Dave Anderson, who previously led R&D at Beyond Meat. The brand’s cheese balls, puffs and pork rinds are vegan, gluten-free and made with Non-GMO ingredients and plant-based protein. The brand also touts its cheese balls as “the first salty snack to have a good source of 20 vitamins and minerals.” Over the past two years, Outstanding Foods has attracted $15 million in funding, and its investor roster includes names like Snoop Dogg, Rob Dyrdek and Cesar Milan. The capital has helped Outstanding Foods expand distribution to thousands of retail stores nationwide, including Whole Foods, Walmart, Costco, Safeway and 7-Eleven. In this episode, Glaser spoke about how he has applied lessons from prior entrepreneurial ventures to the company’s business strategy, how the brand has attracted celebrity investors and involved them in marketing and promotion efforts, and the evolution of Outstanding Foods’ package design and its alignment with the company’s innovation and retail strategies. Show notes: 0:45: Bill Glaser, Co-Founder & CEO, Outstanding Foods – Glaser and Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met at Natural Products Expo East 2022 in Philadelphia where the entrepreneur spoke about how he manages work/life balance, ways in which prior work experiences prepared him for the packaged food industry and how Outstanding Foods continues to operate with the same focus and vision from when it launched. He also discussed his approach to working with and raising money from well-known individuals, why Outstanding Foods doesn’t take its cues from retail buyers when developing new products, and how the company has utilized consumer learnings to make label tweaks and introduce a brand revamp. Brands in this episode: Outstanding Foods

Oct 28, 2022 • 1h 1min
Be Different, And Be Wildly Successful. Just Have A Great Operations Plan.
In this episode, the hosts reflected on the passing of legendary beverage entrepreneur and Red Bull co-founder Dietrich Mateschitz. They also reviewed several new products and limited-time offerings, urged listeners to submit applications for BevNET and NOSH’s Best of 2022 awards (deadline is today!) and chatted about conversations and brand discoveries from recent work trips. Later, operations expert Andrew Guard joined the show for the first edition of a new series in which he answers topical questions about production and scaling strategies. Show notes: 0:51: Magic Mike, You Need To Be In The Elevator With Us, Mixed Feelings About Dr. Pepper’s LTO – John and Mike joined the episode from Santa Monica where they were preparing for our December events and getting acquainted with a new upscale retail store. Jacqui discussed the value that founders will enjoy by participating in Elevator Talk at NOSH Live, Ray riffed on a 30-hour whirlwind visit to New York City, the hosts collectively offered their thoughts on the impact of Dietrich Mateschitz on the modern beverage industry. They also shared their thoughts on Dr. Pepper’s bourbon-flavored “Fansville Reserve,” and praised several snack, frozen and refrigerated products encountered in recent days. 33:50: Special Ops With Andrew Guard – An operations expert with extensive executive-level experience in the beverage and food industries, Guard is the founder of Right Coast Brands, a Massachusetts-based beverage co-manufacturer that offers bespoke production services, and The Guard Agency, an advisory firm supporting early- and mid-stage brands with scaling and logistics strategies. In this conversation, Guard offered advice on how entrepreneurs can address supply chain and inflationary challenges and what founders should know before hiring an operations manager or executive. Brands in this episode: Vista Hermosa, Nguyen Coffee Supply, Little Steven’s Underground Apothecary, The Dead Rabbit, Red Bull, Monster Energy, XCJ, Dr. Pepper, Pepsi, The Coconut Cult, Hu Kitchen,Kif Water, Root’d, Christie’s, Alec’s Ice Cream, Culture Pop, Nantucket Nectars, Biena

Oct 25, 2022 • 1h 1min
Ghost Is A Rocketship. And Thanks To Its Fans, Getting Faster Every Day.
Ghost co-founders Dan Lourenco and Ryan Hughes always knew they’d be playing the long game. Launched in 2016, Ghost markets sports nutrition powders and energy drinks known for their indulgent candy- and snack-based flavors. Lourenco and Hughes say that, at the outset, there was no singular vision or plan for Ghost. Rather, they started with a question: “How far can we take this?” Created as a lifestyle brand centered around fun and inclusivity, Ghost attracts a broad demographic of consumers, from gamers and fitness enthusiasts to shift workers and students. Listening to, learning from and constantly interacting with their customers has helped Ghost build a thriving direct-to-consumer business along with a retail network that includes over 60,000 stores. That footprint has grown significantly since 2020, when Ghost introduced its energy drink line. Developed in partnership with beer giant Anheuser-Busch InBev (ABI), the products are expected to generate over $100 million in sales this year, according to Lourenco. In this episode, Lourenco and Hughes spoke about the origins of Ghost and how they identified an opportunity to attract new consumers to the sport nutrition category via licensed flavors, including Oreo, Sour Patch Kids and Warheads, along with engaging video and social media. They also explained why learning about how consumers shop is key to their sales and marketing strategy, why their emphasis on transparency extends beyond product labels, how a cold email dramatically changed the trajectory of their business and how they are gradually becoming more comfortable with success. Show notes: 0:45: Dan Lourenco and Ryan Hughes, Co-Founders, Ghost – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Lourenco and Hughes about the former’s experience at the 2022 NACS Show, why they view Las Vegas as good place to incubate a brand and why ROI is not a primary factor in the development and production of Ghost’s behind-the-scenes web series. They also discussed why Ghost was built as a lifestyle brand “from day one,” how licensing deals have become the driver for flavor innovation, why most of the functional ingredients in Ghost products are intended for only 1% of their consumers and how they thoughtfully coordinated the company’s partnership with ABI. Brands in this episode: Ghost Lifestyle, Mid-Day Squares

Oct 18, 2022 • 30min
JAJA’s Social Strategy Is Subtle. And Highly Effective.
How do you wield considerable social influence to authentically promote a consumer brand? That’s the central question facing the five co-owners of JAJA Tequila, who collectively have nearly 40 million followers across several social media platforms. Self-described as “the first tequila created for the digital generation,” JAJA was founded in 2018 by entrepreneurs Martin Hoffstein, Maurice Tebele and brother Elliot Tebele, the latter of whom is best known as the creator of popular Instagram meme account, @f__kjerry. JAJA is also co-owned by Alex Pall and Drew Taggart, who form globally renowned electronic DJ duo The Chainsmokers. Leveraging their social capital and fame to promote JAJA has helped the brand achieve triple-digit growth year-over-year and outpace the overall category for premium tequila, according to the company. JAJA’s resonance with younger consumers attracted the attention of international spirits distributor Proximo Spirits, which signed a production and global distribution deal with the brand in 2021. In this episode, Maurice Tebele and Hoffstein spoke about how they evaluated the opportunity to launch a digital-centric tequila brand, why they describe JAJA as “an anti-celeb brand” and how “subtle integration” is the key to their social media strategy. They also explained how a risque and edgy social marketing strategy has benefited the brand, how they elicit the best out of their respective skill sets and how they determined that Proximo would be the right strategic partner for the company. Show notes: 0:45: Maurice Tebele and Martin Hoffstein, Co-Founders, JAJA Tequila – Tebele and Hoffstein spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about the why, in a tequila category brimming with actor and musician founders, they position JAJA as “the celebrity,” as well as the impact of visiting Jalisco, Mexico on the brand’s development, the origins of the name and label design and two topics they consistently avoid in JAJA’s social media posts. They also discussed how the company works with The Chainsmokers to authentically incorporate JAJA into their work and social accounts and how the company’s relationship with Proximo Spirits gives it greater production and distribution power, but keeps the strategic company at arm’s length in other aspects of the business. Brands in this episode: JAJA Tequila, TRUFF

Oct 14, 2022 • 57min
Scaling Small? It’s Hubs’ Specialty. And, Our Take On The Bang Bankruptcy.
This episode features an interview with Marshall Rabil, the co-owner of specialty peanut brand Hubs, who spoke about the brand’s efforts to reach younger consumers and the duality of his roles as a steward and modernizer of his family’s business. Also, the hosts discussed the news that Bang Energy has filed for bankruptcy and why innovative entrepreneurs are often hamstrung by their own achievements. Show notes: 0:49: The Best Of October Deadlines. Jack’s Been Here Before. Expo East And Todd’s Dilemma. – Ray was a bit hoarse, but reminded Mike of Man U’s prowess and the hosts collectively reminded listeners of upcoming deadlines to submit applications for BevNET and NOSH’s Best of 2022 awards along with those for the latest editions of the New Beverage Showdown and NOSH Pitch Slam. They also chatted about how NOSH Live Winter 2022 will offer entrepreneurs a direct connection with investors and other industry leaders and John explained why beverage professionals should be wary of underestimating Jack Owoc and celebrating recent challenges affecting Bang Energy. Later, they offered praise for “shimmering water” brand Loftiwater, while noting the uphill battle it faces and highlighted a few notable new products, including better-for-you candy, buckwheat snacks and breakfast biscuits. 33:00: Interview: Marshall Rabil, Co-Owner, Hubs – Rabil met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at BevNET headquarters in Newton, where they riffed on the seafood scene in Massachusetts and Virginia before discussing the origins of the peanut industry in the U.S. and how Hubs has become the standard bearer for specialty peanuts. Rabil also spoke about the company’s evolving retail strategy, how new products, brand partnerships and creative marketing initiatives are attracting new consumers, how pricing reflects quality and the elements of Hubs’ effective trial strategy. Brands in this episode: Hubs, Pop & Bottle, Bang Energy, La Colombe, Loftiwater, Wholly Veggie, Smart Sweets, Tid Bits, Oomph, Liquid Death, Brazi Bites, Nitro Beverage Co., Lil Bucks, NuttZo, Nguyen Coffee Supply, Jackson’s Chips, Paqui, Kanira, Olyra