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Grind, persist, evolve, repeat.  Greater Than co-founders Mark and Jon Sider lived the routine for over a decade, tenacious in the belief that their sports drink brand offered consumers a healthier alternative to Gatorade and that, eventually, their hard work would pay off. Fourteen years after they started the company, the process is showing progress, albeit in a completely different way than the brothers imagined. In a pivot cemented in 2021, Greater Than shifted its positioning to that of a natural electrolyte drink for nursing mothers. The shift was derived from organic demand and word of mouth among new moms who claimed that the beverages kept them hydrated amid breastfeeding.  It was an unexpected turn for the brand, but one that has given it new life and a massive boost in revenue. Greater Than has generated over $8 million in DTC sales in each of the past two years, a surge that has been recognized by Inc. Magazine, which listed the company among its Inc. 5000 list of the fastest growing privately held companies in the U.S. In this episode, the Siders spoke about how timing and humility played into Greater Than’s repositioning, how they effectively incorporated user-generated content into digital media initiatives, how innovation will play into the company’s brick and mortar retail strategy and opened up about how the relationship between themselves and with others have been impacted by the challenges of entrepreneurship. Show notes: 0:45: Mark and Jon Sider, Co-Founders, Greater Than – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Mark and Jon Sider at BevNET Live Winter 2022, where the entrepreneurs recalled their attendance at the first edition of the event, how the beverage landscape in 2009 helped coalesce their vision for Greater Than and how a well-funded competitor impacted their business strategy. They also spoke about why hard work doesn’t always yield positive outcomes, how they recognized that repositioning Greater Than as a niche brand was the only path forward, why it wouldn’t have worked as a new concept and how targeted ads and consistent community engagement made Greater Than top of mind for nursing mothers. Later, they were candid and transparent about the toll that brand building has taken on their family and how they are attempting to reestablish relationships amid a new chapter for the business. Brands in this episode: Greater Than, Zico, Vita Coco, O.N.E., BodyArmor, Celsius

Taste Radio’s hosts discussed the relative value of making resolutions and shared advice from a highly successful entrepreneur on how to set achievable goals. They also spoke about the arrival of 2023 trade shows, an effective way that early-stage brands can build awareness and riffed on a handful of new products and brand updates. Show notes: 0:40: Bass Basics, Talking Trends… With Family, Send Us Your News – The episode kicks off with a CTA about reviews and free tees, before Jacqui revealed plans to start “slapping” a certain instrument and the hosts chatted about industry-related conversations with family and friends. Ray highlighted a past episode with Zico founder Mark Rampolla and encouraged attendees and exhibitors of the upcoming 2023 Winter Fancy Food Show to reach out and also extolled the value of BevNET’s Elevator Talk series. Brands in this episode: Zico, De Soi, Somi Energy, Sayso, Barr Hill

This special edition of the podcast features highlights from interviews with six founders, creators and innovators who joined us on the show during the second half of 2022. Our guests include Alison Cayne, the founder and CEO of Haven’s Kitchen; Dan Lourenco and Ryan Hughes, the co-founders of Ghost; Anna-Lena Kamenetzky, the founder and CEO of Touch Capital; Ibraheem Basir, the founder and CEO of A Dozen Cousins; Chitra Agrawal, the founder and CEO of Brooklyn Delhi; and Maxime Pouvreau, the founder of Petit Pot.  0:47: Interview: Alison Cayne, Founder & CEO, Haven’s Kitchen – Let’s kick things off with Alison Cayne, the founder and CEO of fast-growing refrigerated sauce brand Haven’s Kitchen. In this clip, pulled from an episode published on July 12, Alison spoke about how she created an office environment that motivated her team to return to an IRL work setting, why the brand’s innovative package design is both an asset and a limitation and navigating the challenge of uneven retail pricing.  12:04: Interview: Dan Lourenco and Ryan Hughes, Co-Founders, Ghost – Next up we have Dan Lourenco and Ryan Hughes, the co-founders of sports nutrition and energy brand Ghost. In a clip pulled from an episode featured on October 25, Dan and Ryan spoke about why generating revenue is not at the top of the list of company priorities, why entrepreneurs have to go “all in” to be successful, why they believe you can’t create a lifestyle brand and why Ghost has never used social media as a marketing tool.  22:44: Interview: Anna-Lena Kamenetzky, Founder & CEO, Touch Capital – Let’s keep it going with Anna-Lena Kamenetzky, the founder and CEO of growth-stage venture capital firm Touch Capital. In this clip, from our episode published on October 4, she discussed the value of entrepreneurs with prior industry experience, why an “‘A” idea doesn’t work with a “C” team, how she evaluates innovative brands and their scaling potential why investor feedback and input only works “if it’s a pull and not a push.” 30:04: Interview: Ibraheem Basir, Founder/CEO, A Dozen Cousins – Next we have Ibraheem Basir, the founder and CEO of A Dozen Cousins, a brand of side dishes and sauces inspired by traditional Creole, Caribbean and Latino recipes. In the following clip, pulled from an episode published on June 28, Basir spoke about how the company’s initial focus has evolved, ensuring quality standards with co-manufacturing partners and why “keeping a foot in the familiar” is a key tenet of the brand’s innovation strategy.  40:56: Interview: Chitra Agrawal, Founder & CEO, Brooklyn Delhi – We continue with Chitra Agrawal, the founder and CEO of Brooklyn Delhi, a brand of Indian-inspired pantry staples crafted for modern kitchens. In this clip, pulled from an episode aired on September 13, Chitra discussed why she didn’t pay herself a salary for the first four years of the business, how the company has scaled with no outside investors, how she created favorable contracts with co-manufacturers and how the company has benefitted from an omni-channel sales strategy. 49:14: Interview: Maxime Pouvreau, Founder, Petit Pot – Finally, we hear from Maxime Pouvreau, the founder of premium pudding brand Petit Pot. In the following clip, pulled from an episode published on September 27, Max explained why he has stressed frugality and cautious spending from the outset and how the hire of an experienced operations executive and thoughtful planning strategy helped the company scale production and achieve profitability. Brands in this episode: Haven’s Kitchen, Ghost Lifestyle, Super Coffee, A Dozen Cousins, Brooklyn Delhi, Petit Pot

At 26, Jack McGarry thought he’d reached the zenith of his career.  Three years after he co-founded modern Irish pub The Dead Rabbit, the Lower Manhattan bar topped the list of the World’s 50 Best Bars, an awards program akin to the Oscars for nightlife hospitality. McGarry had been maniacally focused on earning the title, and while it cemented him as an industry star, a sense of hollowness – exacerbated by heavy drinking – soon followed.  In the years since, however, he has abstained from alcohol and focused on The Dead Rabbit as a bar that would carry on the tradition of Irish pubs as a communal gathering space. He’s also been a leading voice in highlighting mental health and education throughout the bar and restaurant industry. Those priorities will be incorporated into The Dead Rabbit’s expansion, in which the company will open new locations throughout the U.S., beginning next year in Austin and New Orleans. The overarching goal is to champion authentic Irish pubs by incorporating modern art, music and other cultural elements into each bar.  In this episode, McGarry spoke about his journey as an entrepreneur, how the experience of chasing and receiving accolades made him reassess his values and how he’s using his influence to spread awareness about health care and sobriety. He also discussed the ways in which he’s aligning modernity and authenticity in the bar's ambience, weighed in on no- and low-alcohol spirits and cocktails and the reason that he’s bullish on both, and shared why his meaning of “strategic partners” may noy be what you think. Show notes: 0:45: Jack McGarry, Co-Founder & Managing Director, The Dead Rabbit – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with McGarry at The Dead Rabbit in New York City, where the bar owner chatted about his distaste for tardiness and moving out of Manhattan before discussing the bar’s expansion plans for 2023. He also explained how The Dead Rabbit is attempting to restore its original vision and essence, why it's important to root out the underlying issues of alcoholism, particularly within the hospitality industry and how he’s using his platform to call out overindulgence and resulting problems at trade shows and conventions. Later, he discussed the evolution of non-alcoholic options at high-end bars and restaurants and why it’s important to the future of hospitality, why authenticity is often misunderstood and why The Dead Rabbit has historically had low turnover among its employees. Brands in this episode: Guinness, Three Spirit, The Dead Rabbit,

With a new year on the horizon, the hosts shared their expectations for the food and beverage industry in 2023, including the most pertinent opportunities and challenges faced by growing brands. They also opined on the value of Twitter for entrepreneurs and executives and highlighted notable and new products. This episode also features the second edition of Special Ops with Andrew Guard, in which the operations expert offers guidance on timely issues affecting food and beverage companies. Show notes: 0:51: Messi, Marty, Musk and More. – The episode opens with a chat about the 2022 World Cup final and congratulations to current and former colleagues, before the hosts discussed Twitter’s current turmoil and debated the social platform’s usefulness for CPG founders and operators. Later, they offered their predictions for 2023 and how entrepreneurs can stay ahead of potential problems and spoke about a range of innovative brands and products. 19:52: Special Ops with Andrew Guard, Part. 2 –  Guard, the founder of nanoscale beverage co-manufacturer Right Coast Brands explained what founders should know about working with functional ingredients and considerations for introducing a new package type. Brands in this episode: Lentiful, Vudu, Yate, Mix’d Roots, Phresly, Fishwife, Fly By Jing, Van Leeuwen

Their flagship products have a suggested retail price that is nearly double those of legacy and competing brands. And, yet, Serenity Kids is outpacing them all. Launched in 2018, Serenity Kids markets shelf-stable, low sugar baby and toddler food made from organic and ethically sourced ingredients, such as regenerative farmed meats. The brand’s pouches and grain-free puffs are sold in almost 8,000 stores across the U.S., a footprint that includes Walmart, Whole Foods, Target, Kroger, Wegmans and Sprouts. According to the company, Serenity Kids’ revenue has increased 150X year-over-year since its debut and has raised $11.5 million in funding to date. Founders Serenity and Joe Carr note that sales growth and investor confidence are indicative of a shift in buying patterns from parents seeking nutritious, premium products for their children. In this episode, the Carrs spoke about their path to entrepreneurship, how a non-traditional focus group and decades of declining quality in the baby food aisle gave them confidence that Serenity Kids could fill a real need and why maintaining a premium price point is key to the brand’s value proposition. They also discussed their thoughtful sourcing and operations strategies, how they developed a sophisticated understanding of the packaged food industry and their rigorous hiring process. Show notes: 0:45: Serenity & Joe Carr, Co-Founders, Serenity Kids – The Carrs met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at BevNET HQ in Newton, MA where they chatted about their visit to the Boston area before discussing how their interest in the paleo diet and the birth of their daughter laid the foundation for Serenity Kids, and why it was harder to educate natural channel consumers versus those who shop at conventional stores. They also spoke about the incredible yet unnerving opportunity to go national at Whole Foods early into the brand’s development, the unexpected benefits of using regeneratively farmed meat and how they’ve aligned gross margin with price point. Later, they advised founders on how to assess their capital needs, why personal growth is deeply important to company culture and why they conduct “non-traditional” interviews with potential employees. Brands in this episode: Serenity Kids

How do you measure, in financial terms, the value of design? PepsiCo chief design officer Mauro Porcini has been on the receiving end of the query dozens of times throughout his career. While he has long employed metrics to appraise the cost and impact of a particular product label, promotion or installation, his preferred answer is simpler and Spiderman-esque: great design inherently creates great value. Now in his 11th year at PepsiCo, Porcini is the creator of the company’s award-winning Design and Innovation Center, which holds sway across the drink and snack giant in everything from new product development and experiential marketing campaigns to brand revamps and fashion collaborations. Porcini’s perspective that design should strive to address real and useful human needs is a core tenet of the Center and highlighted throughout his book “The Human Side of Innovation: The Power of People in Love with People,” which draws upon his experience at PepsiCo and in prior roles, including as the head of global design at 3M. As part of an expansive interview featured in this episode, Porcini discussed his definition of design, both in the abstract and specific to his work in consumer products, how he convinces colleagues to align with his vision and where he takes his cues as a creator and leader. He also explained his hiring process and the value of technical expertise versus personality or cultural savvy and how social media influences his perspective on design. Show notes: 0:45: Mauro Porcini, Chief Design Officer, PepsiCo – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif chatted with Porcini about the executive’s infant before riffing on the Italian men’s soccer team and 2022 World Cup and how the Design and Innovation Center is involved with the tournament. He also spoke about the meaning behind his book’s title, how his relatively small business unit operates within a large corporation, how data and market research influence design decisions and his method for assessing priorities from a company-wide perspective and with individual brands. Later, he explained why age is not a critical factor in hiring decisions, what it’s like to be a fly on the wall in design meetings and whether he’s planning a new playbook for his next decade at PepsiCo.  Brands in this episode: Pepsi

Taste Radio’s hosts reflected on the BevNET’s Winter 2022 events through the first day of BevNET Live, and highlighted the winners of various competitions held throughout the week, community as a key theme in panels and presentations and the fuel that kept Ray, John, Jacqui and Mike going amid a whirlwind schedule.  Show notes: 0:39: Spiked Coconuts, Bleary Eyes, Chez Jay, Ray’s Llama – The episode kicks off with Mike as Ray’s literal echo, before the hosts congratulated two brands with sun-inspired names and Jacqui noted two well-received speakers. They also shared a few extensive thoughts on BevNET’s Cocktail Showdown 3 competition, an unpleasant “upper crust” and two of Best of 2022 award winners that had their fair share of doubters.  Brands in this episode: Sunboy, Sunnie, Resist Nutrition, Velvet Llama, Sans, Robin Road Cocktails, Howie’s Spiked, Spirited Hive, Cometeer, Remedy Organics, Biolyte, EriTea, Bonbuz, Liquid Death, Sanzo 

For many consumers, mindful drinking is top of mind. A 2021 omnibus survey conducted by market research firm NielsenIQ showed that 22% Americans are cutting back on their alcoholic beverage consumption, citing health and wellness and shifting interests as two core reasons. Concurrent with a rise in interest for sober or sober-curious lifestyles is the emergence of a new cohort of non-alcoholic spirit and cocktail brands, including Lyre’s. Launched in 2019 by entrepreneurs Mark Livings and Carl Hartmann, Lyre’s markets non-alcoholic analogs of the world’s most popular spirits, including bourbon, gin and tequila. Positioned as premium, sophisticated spirit alternatives without any compromise, Lyre’s  blitz-scaling strategy has enabled it to become the world’s leading non-alcoholic brand with distribution in dozens of countries.  Investors have taken note of Lyre’s growth: last year, the company completed a new funding round at a $360 million valuation and was led by D Squared Capital and Morgan Creek Capital Management, an early investor in Drizly, AliBaba, and SpaceX. In this episode, Livings spoke about his vision for Lyre’s and the future of non-alcoholic spirits, why the company has prioritized market share and rapid growth, the development of its portfolio and product road map, Lyre’s thoughtful communication strategy and how his management style supports Lyre’s torrid trajectory. Show notes: 0:45: Mark Livings, Co-Founder/CEO, Lyre’s – Livings spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about why he lives and works in Amsterdam, the emergence of the low/no-alc beverage category, the variety of consumers that Lyre’s is targeting, and the reason that the company is in so many global markets. He also explained how Lyre’s is attempting to be synonymous with non-alcoholic spirits, the brand’s focus on being a “first scaler,” the importance of “the referral moment,” and how the company produces its liquid. Later, he discussed Lyre’s innovation strategy and why it launched an RTD line, its approach to aligning promotion and  communication with things like “Dry January” and “Sober October,” and how he manages and motivates a global team remotely. Brands in this episode: Seedlip, Lyre’s

Andrea Hernandez is one of the most respected influencers in food and beverage, but it’s not a title she covets. She’d rather be called “cult leader.” A former marketing executive with over a decade of experience in the food industry, Hernandez is the creator of Snaxshot, a multifaceted digital platform that has followed and forecasted some of the most notable trends in the food and beverage industry over the past two years.  Launched in 2020, Snaxshot’s popular blog and newsletter are known for their well-researched and witty content. Both are ad-free and community-funded, and while Hernandez often highlights brands aligned with her perspective that food and drink should be delicious and uncomplicated, Snaxshot’s independence provides her with a platform to be candid, and, occasionally, controversial. Over the past two years, Snaxshot has become a valuable and influential resource for entrepreneurs, industry professionals and consumers. Its newsletter has over 35,000 subscribers (affectionately known as “snaxbois”) and Snaxshot and Hernadez combined have tens of thousands of followers on Twitter and Instagram. In this episode, Hernandez spoke about the emergence of Snaxshot and its content strategy, why she’s uncomfortable with her anointed role as a “trend oracle,” her bone to pick with functional foods and beverages, how she defines “a great product” and her take on several noteworthy trends. We also sat down for a conversation with legendary musician, actor and entrepreneur Steven Van Zandt, who spoke about the launch of his new wellness brand Little Steven’s Underground Apothecary, which markets natural consumer products designed to alleviate everyday stresses and ailments. Show notes: 1:00: Andrea Hernandez, Creator, Snaxshot – Hernandez met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif in the Bowery neighborhood of Manhattan, where she compared the chilly weather of New York City with that of her home base in the Honduras, discussed her non-traditional job title, how Snaxshot acts as a check on the “commodification of wellness,” its readership and how they interact with the platform and why she prepares new content in the style of and old “sitcom variety show.” She also explained her role as an intermediary versus an industry predictor, how she defines an emerging concept and a great brand, why the market is the ultimate validator of trends, the power of great branding and great quality and her aversion to functional ingredients in sweet treats and desserts. Later, she shared her thoughts on better-for-you-sodas and candy, keto products, gut health, non-nutritive sweeteners and plant-based meat. 45:51: Steven Van Zandt, Founder, Little Steven’s Underground Apothecary – Our next guest for this episode is well-known to fans of Hall of Fame artists Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band as well as the iconic television show “The Sopranos.” Steven Van Zandt is an accomplished musician and actor who recently added entrepreneur to his resume with the launch of Little Steven’s Underground Apothecary, a brand focused on natural and holistic remedies to everyday stresses and ailments. The company markets  boutique teas, coffees, lollipops, and other products infused with organic ingredients, including ginger, turmeric, kava, maca and Manuka honey. The brand donates 10% of all profits to TeachRock.org, a non-profit that uses the history of popular music to create engaging, multicultural lesson plans for history, social studies, language arts, music and science classrooms. Brands in this episode: Liquid Death, Ghia, De Soi, Parch, Three Spirit, Oatly, Prime, Recess, Graza, Little Debbie, Oreo, Dunkaroos, Sundays, Rip Van, Bai, SmartSweets, Impossible Foods, Beyond Meat, Actual Veggies, Nutella, Lay’s, Goldfish, Pop-Tarts, Little Steven’s Underground Apothecary