

Taste Radio
BevNET Inc.
The top podcast for anyone building a business in food or beverage, BevNET's Taste Radio features interviews with the leaders and rising stars of our fast-evolving industry. The shows also include discussion on emerging trends, innovation and news of the week from our regular cadre of hosts from the BevNET and NOSH teams.
Tell us what you think at ask@tasteradio.com. You can also email us if you are interested in Taste Radio sponsorship opportunities. And if you like the podcast, share it with a colleague, will ya?
Tell us what you think at ask@tasteradio.com. You can also email us if you are interested in Taste Radio sponsorship opportunities. And if you like the podcast, share it with a colleague, will ya?
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Nov 2, 2023 • 1h 1min
From Apples To Ayrloom, How A Cannabis Boom Is Changing CPG
Why is a century-old apple orchard and cider company betting big on the future of cannabis? Eddie Brennan, the fifth-generation owner of New York-based Beak & Skiff, discussed its foray and continued investment into the cultivation of cannabis and production of THC-infused drinks. The company built and operates a 20,000 sq. ft manufacturing and co-packing facility dedicated to the cannabis beverages, one that Brennan described as the largest on the East Coast. Also in this episode: the hosts' take on Ocean Spray's new line of zero-sugar juice (and why an asterisk is involved) and what Travis Kelce, Michael Bublé and Matthew McConaughey now have in common. Show notes: 0:35: Wrong Pipe. White Out Is Not Nail Polish. Secret Spray. That Was Swift. We Don't Need No Pants. – Ray kicked off the show by explaining how he choked on his ride to the office, the hosts collectively agreed that "White Out" had its day and is not to be sniffed, and expressed skepticism about Ocean Spray's new products and how consumers may perceive them. They also riffed on Travis Kelce's new brand of refrigerated entrees, which of three new celebrity-backed beverage alcohol brands has the best shot of being successful, a "pointless" ginger ale and why Jacqui's instant review of a particular drink brand is not to be missed. 30:12: Interview: Eddie Brennan, CEO, Beak & Skiff – Brennan spoke about taking the reins of his family's business, the reason for entering the cannabis space and how Beak & Skiff's customers reacted to the move and what he views as the trajectory for cannabis beverages. He also discussed the company's education strategy, inducing trial via a new 1 mg THC variety and the challenges of marketing cannabis on social media. Brands in this episode: Beak & Skiff, 1911 Established, Ayrloom, Essentia, Fly By Jing, Ocean Spray, Travis Kelce's Kitchen, TB12, Unreal Candy, Tequila Pantalones, Casamigos, Fraser & Thompson, Vosa Spirits, Pointless Ginger Ale, Lifted Supreme, Bobo's, Uncrustables, Rudi's, Chubby Snacks, Better Than Booze, Superfrau, Spare Tonic

Oct 30, 2023 • 44min
Expand Your 'Luck Surface Area.' It Helped Austin Cocktails Land Big-Time Partners.
The adage "luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" is often quoted by successful entrepreneurs. And it would stand to reason that the more opportunities you have, the luckier you'll be. But how do you best position yourself to create more moments, chances and meetings that might change the trajectory of your business? Austin Cocktails co-founders Kelly Gasink and Jill Burns, who founded the brand in 2012 and helped usher in a new era for premium RTD cocktails, say that the answer is two-fold: be okay with being uncomfortable and strive to "expand your luck surface area." Doing so helped them land deals with Madison Square Garden and Virgin America airlines. It also led to an unexpected and pivotal meeting with the CEO of Constellation Brands. Introduced in 2016, Austin Cocktails markets full-strength canned cocktails made with premium spirits and natural ingredients. The products are distributed across the United States at a variety of retailers, including Whole Foods, BevMo, Target and Total Wine. In this episode, Gasink and Burns explained how they identified the opportunity for a premium tier of RTD cocktails, why they didn't emphasize a specific target demographic, how an unorthodox but highly effective sampling strategy unlocked new retail and distribution opportunities, and how they assessed the timing for a sale of Austin Cocktails to Constellation Brands. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Kelly Gasink & Jill Burns, Co-Founders, Austin Cocktails – Gasink and Burns riffed about eccentric weather patterns in Texas and Austin as a hub for entrepreneurship before discussing the impact of Skinnygirl on the development of the modern RTD cocktail category and how they initial spoke to retailers about the need for premium options in the space. They also spoke about the challenges in getting the products made, why "everything good happened" at sampling events and why maintaining the brand's core tenets amid growing competition paid off. Later, they explained how their personal and professional networks were instrumental in the brand's development and why basing innovation solely on data may not be the best strategy. Brands in this episode: Austin Cocktails, Skinnygirl Cocktails

Oct 30, 2023 • 51min
Bonus Content - Why It Pays To Treat Investment Like A Marriage
In this special presentation of our sister show, the NOSH Podcast, Sunrise Strategic Partners' Peter Burns and Coefficient Capital's Franklin Isacson explain why the investor-brand relationship should be treated like a marriage.

Oct 27, 2023 • 30min
What's Generating Deal Flow & Investment? Plus, New Collabs We Love.
Why are some investors writing checks while others are content to stay on the sidelines? The hosts discussed a new survey that examines the dynamics of contemporary deal flow. They also spoke about opportunities for entrepreneurs to spotlight their brands at BevNET's Winter 2023 events and highlighted two food brands that developed new snacks in collaboration with beverage companies. Show notes: 0:35: Oh, Hi, Whole Foods. Ask And Interview. Ube & Scotch. Tia Traction. Donuts And Coffee. – The episode kicked off with the news that representatives from Whole Foods will be participating in "Retailer One-on-One" sessions at NOSH Live, how attendees can take part in a live version of our Elevator Talk series and join us for a conversation in the Taste Radio Studio at BevNET Live. John whipped up some purple cocktails before the hosts congratulated Tia Lupita founder Hector Saldivar, whose company just raised $2.6 million, and chatted about what's eliciting interest (and causing concern) among food and beverage investors. Later, they munched on hibiscus-flavored popcorn, coffee-infused mini-donuts, chocolate truffles and better-for-you protein bars. Brands in this episode: Tia Lupita, The Glenlivet, Ruby, BjornQorn, Deux, Chamberlain Coffee, Evolved Chocolate, Yaza, Genius Juice, Resist

Oct 24, 2023 • 43min
The Simple Maxim That Made Michele's Granola A Profitable Category Leader
If you take the brand out of the farmer's market, do you have to take the farmer's market out of the brand? Not if you're Michele's Granola, a brand whose rustic package design and proprietary recipe have remained the same since inception. It's a big reason why Michele's has become one of the top-selling brands in its category. Launched in 2006 by founder Michele Tsucalas, Michele's Granola markets small batch granola made from natural, organic and non-GMO ingredients. The company's Maryland manufacturing facility produces over 35,000 pounds of granola and muesli weekly. Michele's also sells a two-SKU line of granola butter made from oats and nuts. The products are sold nationally at over 3,800 retailers, including Whole Foods and Wegmans, where Michele's is the top-selling granola brand at each chain, as well as Ralph's, Kroger and Sprouts. According to a profile in "Baltimore" magazine," the company is expected to generate $15 million in revenue this year. In this episode, Tsucalas and company CEO Oliver Buccicone spoke about how focusing on quality and "premium simplicity" has enabled the brand to scale while maintaining its original, rustic package design and positioning. They also discussed the brand's patient path to distribution in conventional grocery, how they've pushed back on retailer demands for promotional pricing and why examining every cost is key to being cash-flow positive and profitable. 0:35: Michele Tsucalas, Founder & Oliver Buccicone, CEO, Michele's Granola – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Tsucalas and Buccicone, with the founder sharing a bit of background about the brand's hometown of Lutherville-Timonium, Maryland before she explained why its packaging has remained consistent in the nearly 18 years since its launch. Buccicone spoke about why he joined the company and took on the role of CEO in 2020, why the company's focus on high-quality and easily understood ingredients resonates with consumers, and how it responded when conventional retail chains began knocking on its door. Later, they discussed why a constant examination of expenses gives a clearer picture of profit and loss, how they evaluate opportunities to innovate and the value of self manufacturing in being able to remain independent and attractive to Investors. Brands in this episode: Michele's Granola

Oct 19, 2023 • 35min
Let's Play 'Is It Innovative?' And, Why Are Celebrities Flocking To Coffee?
What defines compelling innovation? Novel ingredients? Esoteric flavors? Unusual packaging? The hosts discussed how strategic and entrepreneurial companies are attempting to innovate in food and beverage and what's moving the needle for consumers. They also riffed on two new celebrity coffee brands, one launched by a "Yellowstone'' star and the other known for her status as a "teen mom." 0:35: Late Night Radio. Coke's Latest Cocktail. Mushroom Coffee & Cognitive Shots. Ray's Famous Celebrity Rankings. – Ray kicked off the show by getting an NKOTB classic stuck in Mike's head before the hosts spoke about The Coca-Cola's Co's continued foray into beverage alcohol and a spicy line extension, whether a Jenelle Evans' new functional coffee brand will resonate with her fans and "B+ list celebrity" Cole Hauser's cowboy java. Jacqui praised a brand of plant-based sushi and a tree-bark infused drink line, Ray sipped on a brain-boosting smoothie shot and shared hummus, crackers and iced latte powders with John and Mike, the latter of whom didn't bring any coconut yogurt for the group. Brands in this episode: Sprite, Absolut Vodka, Coca-Cola, Jack Daniels, Simply, Topo Chico, Fresca, Free Rein Coffee, Time Of The Day, Juvenescence, Little Sesame, Konscious, You Need This, Twrl Milk Tea, Fly By Jing, Mabi, St. Agrestis, Maxwell House, The Coconut Cult

Oct 18, 2023 • 44min
Bonus Content - How Fly By Jing Catapulted A Condiment Subcategory
In this special presentation of our sister show, BevNET & NOSH's Community Call, Fly By Jing founder Jing Gao discussed how she leveraged DTC sales to secure retail opportunities, building and scaling a first to market product, and the education and marketing required to drive trial.

Oct 17, 2023 • 48min
How Athletic Brewing is Building A Brand While Leading A Revolution
When they produced their first batch of non-alcoholic beer in 2017, Athletic Brewing Co. co-founders Bill Shufelt and John Walker knew they were on to something special. They may not have realized, however, they were brewing a revolution. Founded in 2017, Athletic Brewing has emerged as one of the fastest growing beverage companies in the U.S. and is leading the charge for a burgeoning cohort of zero-proof alcohol alternatives. According to industry trade group The Brewers Association, Athletic is the 13th largest craft brewer in America and the leading producer of non-alcoholic craft beer. Its products are distributed in all 50 states and available at over 50,000 retail stores nationwide, including Walmart, Costco, Publix, Target and CVS. Amid surging demand – Nielsen data from March showed annual dollar sales of the brand up 94% – Athletic has invested heavily in production. The company operates brewing facilities in Connecticut and San Diego, built in part from the $173.5 million in outside capital the company has raised, including a $50 million investment from Keurig Dr Pepper in November 2022. In this episode, Shufelt and Walker spoke about Athletic's role in the evolution of alcohol-alternative beverages and its influence on how consumers perceive them, why it's in the company's interest to support competitors and how it does so, how they evaluate new retail and distribution opportunities and where resources are best utilized, and how they stay grounded amid continued growth and industry hype. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Bill Shufelt & John Walker, Co-Founders, Athletic Brewing – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Shufelt and Walker at Athletic Brewing's facility in Milford, Connecticut, where they discussed the brand's outsized growth over the past two years, why they feel a responsibility to support competing brands in the nonalcoholic beer category, and how has how they have maintained the quality of their products amid exponential growth. They also spoke about why they prefer in-house staffing to outsourced help, how they consider entering new retail channels, including convenience stores, and why they are guided by Athletic's long-term vision amid speculation about a potential exit. Brands in this episode: Athletic Brewing Company, Heineken

Oct 13, 2023 • 37min
What's Working (And What Isn't) In Better-For-You Snacks & Libations
From allulose-sweetened gummies and "junkless" granola bars to zero-sugar sodas and "WonderWater," the hosts discussed how better-for-you brands are attempting to meet consumer demand for great taste and nutrition in snacks and beverages. 0:35: Thanks For Meeting! John Doesn't Do Shots. Impactful News. Mike Conflates. Japanese Delights. – Ray praised the work of BevNET's all-around star Amanda before the hosts chatted about the fear of (of lack thereof) Friday, the 13th, highlighted brands and founders featured at the recently held Newton meetup and pounded pickle juice shots (except for John). They also discussed the news that serial entrepreneur Mike Repole has invested in Junkless Foods, whether Bai is on the right track with a new tagline and why Mike is getting Austin Powers and Dr. Evil confused. Later, they sipped and munched on products marketed by several early-stage brands and ruffled through a box of Japanese snacks from Tokyo Treat. Brands in this episode: Biena, Alc-A-Chino, Al's Beer, Stormalong Cider, Spade Soda, Dr Pepper, Pickle Juice Shot, Behave Candy, Junkless Foods, Vitaminwater, BodyArmor, Pirate's Booty, Bai, RIND Snacks, Combos, Rivalz Snacks, Doritos, Goldfish, Ellio's Pizza, Celeste Pizza, Mason Dixie Foods, Krispy Kreme, Fast Penny Spirits, KitKat

Oct 10, 2023 • 50min
Emphasize Quality. It's A Big Reason Why This Company Was Acquired.
It's been nearly 10 years since Bronya Shillo launched Fishers Island Lemonade, and even after selling her company to one of the largest beverage alcohol companies in the world, she's still on the grind and promoting her brand one customer at a time. She wouldn't want it any other way. Fishers Island Lemonade markets premium canned cocktails made with a base of barrel-aged whiskey, vodka, lemon and honey. Lauded for its unique taste profile and commitment to high quality ingredients, the brand comes in several flavor varieties and is sold nationally at a suggested retail price of $15.99 for a four-pack of 12 oz. cans. In May, Spirit of Gallo, the spirits arm of E. & J. Gallo Winery, announced that it would acquire Fishers Island Lemonade for an undisclosed fee. In a press release, the company noted that the purchase partly reflected consumers "trading up to spirits-based cocktails and demanding more full-flavored, higher ABV products." Shillo remains on the Fishers Island board and serves as the brand's official spokesperson. In this episode, Shillo discussed the brand's origins, why quality of ingredients matters when meeting with retail buyers, how, after a variety of challenges, she aligned with the right manufacturing partners, why the adage "inch wide, mile deep" guided the brand's distribution strategy for years and how she built and maintained a relationship with E. & J. Gallo leadership. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Bronya Shillo, Founder, Fishers Island Lemonade – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Shillo about her participation in BevNET's inaugural Cocktail Showdown competition, how her family's business factored into the development of Fishers Island Lemonade and the complex path to formulating, packaging, and eventually selling, a canned cocktail. She also explained why she eschewed using a malt base and lower quality ingredients, her thoughtful pricing strategy, how she developed strong relationships with distributors and why it was years before she hired her first employee. Later, she discussed how growing interest in RTD cocktails spurred an upcoming evolution in the brand's label design and why she was adamant about staying involved in the company post-acquisition despite constant travel demands. Brands in this episode: Fishers Island Lemonade


