Taste Radio

They talk the talk, but does Gen Z walk the walk? The hosts discuss the generation’s complicated relationship with food and whether their values actually impact purchasing decisions. This episode also features an interview with Jorge Antonio Salles, the third-generation master distiller for iconic tequila brand El Tequileño. Show notes: 0:36: We’re Bagged Out. Japan Via Montreal. Walk The Talk? Not Exactly. Mike Is Only Sleeping. – Surrounded by two dozen promotional canvas bags and coolers, the hosts assessed the value of such satchels and why brands might be better off sending samples instead of swag. Melissa returned from Montreal with a bushel of crunchy Japanese snacks while Mike tapped Google for some assistance with translation. The hosts also spoke about a recent study that revealed how societal pressures and social media affect Gen Z consumers and later praised brands of chocolate covered bananas, THC-infused drinks and breakfast biscuits. Also, Ray clarified that sleeping is not fasting. 37:35: Interview: Jorge Antonio “Tony” Salles, Master Distiller, El Tequileño – Tony Salles is the master distiller for iconic tequila brand El Tequileño. Described as “Mexico’s Best Kept Secret,” El Tequileño distills 10 expressions of tequila along with a soon-to-be released Extra Añejo variety. In this interview, Salles spoke about how the company incorporates its heritage and emphasis on quality and craft into its communication strategy, how modern consumers fit into its innovation strategy and the impact of a limited-edition product on brand awareness. Brands in this episode:  El Tequileño, Pitaya Foods, Sailor Jerry, Madre Mezcal, Gigantic Candy, Belgian Boys, Teremana Tequila, Courvoisier, Tilia Wines, Wild Planet, Fresh Fizz, Revol Greens, Velvet Llama, Riff, Flow Water, Diana’s Bananas, Jackson’s Chips, TBD, Olyra

Hakki Akendiz, an immigrant who became a successful entrepreneur and lauded philanthropist, is living the American Dream. He also for years experienced the plight of living without housing. His business, Champion Pizza, gives a voice to both. Akendiz arrived in the U.S. from Turkey over 20 years ago. He had no illusions about a gilded path, but didn’t anticipate the challenges that befell him. Akendiz slept on park benches and lived in shelters and restaurant basements, worked menial jobs and was even robbed of his life’s savings. And, yet he persevered, opening his first pizzeria in 2009 and gradually added nine more, each built with reinvested earnings.   Amid a worsening homelessness epidemic, Akendiz has prioritized giving back as a pillar of Champion Pizza’s business model. Every week over the past eight years, Akendiz and his team have set up on West 34th Street in Manhattan where they share pizza and other food, clothing and medication to homeless people. In total, Champion Pizza has donated millions of dollars worth of pizza, but Akendiz intends to give more. In this episode, Akendiz spoke about his remarkable journey, why he credits hard work to his success and downplays the impact of luck, why supporting a social mission starts with building a sustainable and profitable business and how business owners can most effectively support the homeless community. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Hakki Akdeniz, Owner, Champion Pizza – Akdeniz spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about a disastrous start to life in the U.S., learning the craft of pizza making while living in a boiler room and why he forgives a former partner who stole thousands of dollars intended to open a restaurant. He also explained why his first pizzeria almost left him bankrupt, how winning a pizza competition changed the trajectory of his career and why he never wavered when opening his second location, despite assault and the threat of violence from rival owners. Later, he discussed why having a goal means having a plan and the simple strategy for helping those in need.  Brands in this episode: Champion Pizza

What does Campbell Soup’s planned acquisition of Rao’s owner Sovos Brands suggest about the M&A environment for food and beverage CPG? The hosts discussed the deal and also chatted about several new, notable and innovative products. This episode also features an interview with Gregory Lowe II and Jason Miller, the founder and CEO and president of sales, respectively, of fast-growing coconut water brand 100 Coconuts. Show notes: 0:39: Mark Your Calendars. Grilled Cheese For Breakfast? Someone Has A New BevNET Nickname. – The hosts encouraged listeners to register for upcoming meetups at BevNET’s HQ and WCB (West Coast Branch) and let folks know via our community Slack channel before munching on grilled cheese bites. They also chatted about the utility of carton-based packaging, the impact of the Campbell Soup/Sovos deal for emerging brands, heaped praise on limited edition, co-branded mini cupcakes, devoured chocolate-covered berries and ruminated on who deserves an avion sobriquet. 30:51: Gregory Lowe II, Founder/CEO & Jason Miller, President of Sales, 100 Coconuts – Founded in 2019, 100 Coconuts markets Vietnamese-sourced, not-from-concentrate coconut water packaged in 11 oz. aluminum cans. The brand’s flagship Pure variety is sold at select Publix, HEB, Walmart, Vitamin Shoppe and Target locations. In this interview, Lowe and Miller spoke about the origins of 100 Coconuts, how taste has helped differentiate its products from those of competing brands, the key elements of its formidable retail strategy, how to identify communication that resonates with consumers and how 100 Coconuts collaborated with TikTok to develop a co-branded product. Brands in this episode: 100 Coconuts, A Friendly Bread, Pacific Foods, Rao’s, Noosa, Michael Angelo’s, Baked by Melissa, Entenmann's, Tip Top Cocktails, Skittles, French’s, Giadzy, TruFru, Nature’s Fynd, Kate Farms, Lucky F*uck, Richard’s Rainwater, Honey Mama’s

How do breakout brands, particularly those that operate in trendy categories, build sustainable businesses? They cultivate authentic relationships with consumers by delivering on attributes they’re seeking. It’s how Wilderton, a maker of small-batch, non-alcoholic spirits crafted from raw botanicals, is paving its path. Founded by Oregon craft spirits veterans Brad Whiting and Seth O’Malley, Wilderton launched in December 2020. The company markets three signature expressions that are distilled using globally sourced wild plants. The products boast the complexity and experience of a traditional spirit yet without alcohol.  As sober curious lifestyles take hold in parts of the U.S., Wilderton has emphasized its distinctive ingredients and innovative distillation methods, an approach that is consistently winning over both teetotallers and spirit consumers seeking a high quality alcohol alternative. In this episode, Whiting and O’Malley spoke about their interest in non-alcoholic spirits, how they view Wilderton as differentiated from similarly positioned brands, why taste is key when communicating product attributes and how to support, if not champion, other companies within the emerging category. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Brad Whiting & Seth O'Malley, Co-Founders, Wilderton – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Whiting and O’Malley at the 2023 Tales of the Cocktail convention where they spoke about Wilderton’s new distillery and tasting room in Hood River, Oregon, their respective backgrounds in the spirits industry and why distilling non-alcoholic beverages isn’t as complicated as it might sound. They also explained why they developed Wilderton to be an option for a variety of consumers, why they don’t  create analogs of traditional spirits and how they educate the trade about how to use and promote the products. Later, they spoke about growing competition within the emerging segment of non-alcoholic spirits and shared their perspective on partnerships with strategic firms and legacy beverage alcohol companies. Brands in this episode: Wilderton, Pendleton Whisky, Clear Creek, Big Gin, Hood River Distillers, Seedlip, Athletic Brewing Co.

The hosts discussed a celebrity foodie’s new glitzy brand of $10/box pasta, the debut of a black-owned and gastronomic-inspired brand of toaster pastries at Target, French’s sweet limited-time partner and a brief recap of the recently held 2023 Tales of The Cocktail convention. Also featured is the latest edition of Special Ops with Andrew Guard, in which the operations expert shares his take on both opportunities and challenges that are impacting new and emerging beverage and food companies. Show notes: 0:40: A Refreshing Take On “Tales.” Giada x Olive Garden. NYC Peeps, We’re Calling In A Favor. – John and Mike returned from their respective visits to Southern California while Ray got back from New Orleans and discussed trends and takeaways from bar hospitality and spirits event Tales of The Cocktail. The hosts reacted to Giada De Laurentiis’ foray into CPG and the debut of French’s mustard-flavored Skittles (it’s a TikTok thing) and chatted about founder visits to the office and a few new brands, including Ghetto Gastro. 28:17: Special Ops with Andrew Guard, Vol. 3 –  In the third installment of our regular series with Guard, the Right Coast Brands founder reflects on products featured in BevNET’s New Beverage Showdown 25 competition held in June, why mushrooms have become the “it” ingredient and how they’re incorporated into new foods and beverages and innovative concepts that he and his team are bringing to life, including a kava-based drink and a refreshing hard tea. Brands in this episode: Saint James Tea, Lyre’s, Ritual Zero, Bosscal Mezcal, El Tequileno,  Glenmorangie, Johnnie Walker, Giadzy, Barilla, Prince Pasta, French’s, Skittles, Nuttin Ordinary, Wehl Plant Drops, Ghetto Gastro, Gunna Drinks, Chubby Snacks, Bashi, Cape Tide Hard Tea

Juliet is the result of two entrepreneurs who thought outside the box… by getting rid of the box. Launched in July 2022, Juliet is a first-to-market brand of multiserve wine founded by longtime friends Allison Luvera and Lauren De Niro Pipher. Unlike boxed varieties, the wine is encased in a cylindrical container with a black strap that is designed to evoke the style and sophistication of a luxury handbag. Juliet markets three varietals – Pinot Noir, Sauvignon Blanc and Dry Rose – each sold in 1.5L packages that retail for $35. Positioned as an upscale brand, Juliet is also designed to appeal to consumers that value sustainability but who don’t want to compromise on taste and quality.   In this episode, Luvera and De Niro Pipher spoke about how they assessed the opportunity to disrupt a legacy category, why developing a unique package was central to the planning process and how they have won over retailers by positioning Juliet as an upscale lifestyle brand. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Allison Luvera and Lauren De Niro Pipher, Co-Founders, Juliet – Luvera and De Niro Pipher spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about why they use the term “boxed wine” to describe Juliet, their challenging, but ultimately correct decision to change package designers and how they utilized their respective skill sets to map out an initial business strategy. They also discussed Juliet’s target consumer and what they’ve learned about how customers perceive the brand since its launch, how influencers fit into the company’s marketing strategy and their perspective on support for women-led brands in the wine industry. Brands in this episode: Juliet Wine

In this episode, the hosts shared CPG roundups from the Pacific Northwest regions of both the U.S. and Canada, discussed the controversy surrounding children and caffeine and questioned whether honey truffle could be a gamechanger for the food and beverage industry. Show notes: 0:35: Portlandia & Prime. Marmots & Mountains. Bad Breath & Blue #1. — Did Jacqui dodge lava? It certainly looked that way. Melissa’s Canadian store checks yielded some interesting information and sparked a conversation about Prime Energy and Gen Alpha, before the hosts collectively chatted about natural sweeteners, artificial ingredients and whether gum is worth the trouble. Brands in this episode: Bob’s Red Mill, Mid-Day Squares, SmartSweets, Guru, Buddha Brands, Made Good, Love Good Fat, Big Mountain Brands. Silverhill Sprouted Bread, Doritos, Red Boat, Prime, 5-hour Energy, Gatorade, Powerade, BodyArmor, Ghia, Betty Booze, Aviation Gin, Sol-ti

Magnolia Bakery’s famous banana pudding, an indulgent mash-up of fresh bananas, vanilla wafers and vanilla pudding, is the reason that you continue to see long lines outside of the company’s flagship shop in Manhattan, which opened in 1996. Although Magnolia wants to make the dessert more accessible, the New York-based company is limited by the capacity of its 10 U.S. retail locations and direct-to-consumer platform. To reach more customers, its leaders had to get creative. So they made cookies. In March, Magnolia introduced its Banana Pudding Cookies, a line of soft-baked cookies made with real butter, bananas and chocolate. Available in three flavors – Classic Vanilla with White Chocolate Chips, Chocolate Chunk, and Confetti with White Chocolate Chips – the cookies are individually wrapped and sold in packs of four for $7.99 a box. They are available in retailers across the U.S., including Costco, The Fresh Market and Harris Teeter. In this episode, Magnolia Bakery CEO Bobbie Lloyd and CMO Eddie Revis spoke about the company’s decision to create a CPG brand and the patient and thoughtful approach behind its development. As part of the conversation, discussed why consistency and quality guides their stewardship of the company, why they eschew trendy concepts and Magnolia’s collaborations with lifestyle brands. Show notes: 0:43: Interview: Bobbie Lloyd, CEO & Eddie Revis, CMO Magnolia Bakery – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Lloyd and Revis at the 2023 Summer Fancy Food show, where they spoke about their variety of interactions with attendees, the evolution of Magnolia Bakery over its 27 years in business and how the development of a CPG brand elicited a rebrand. They also explained why Magnolia doesn’t self-manufacture its cookies, the reason it uses artificial flavors and how the products’ target consumer  informs its retail strategy. Later, Revis explained how the company aligns demand planning and marketing resources, why “the most important thing is to deliver on the experience that the consumer wants to have,” Magnolia’s partnerships with Monos, Boy Smells, Tula Skincare and Kate Spade and the navigating consumer perception of the company as small while continuing to grow. Brands in this episode: Magnolia Bakery, Chobani

Can Coolhaus make a comeback? Although the beloved non-dairy ice cream brand is reportedly on the chopping block, the hosts discussed a potential salvation akin to those of discontinued brands resurrected by new owners. This episode also features the latest installment of The Goat Pen with Carlton Fowler, the co-founder of Goat Rodeo Capital, who spoke about his “obsession” with outliers.  Show notes: 0:41: Wine In Baja. RIP… But, Maybe Not? Bliss Balls, Energy Gels, Pizza Nuts. – Jacqui shared details of a recent visit to Baja’s burgeoning wine scene, before the hosts collectively reflected on their favorite defunct brands and why some received a second chance. They also chatted about a mashup of notable products, including canned beans with a nostalgic twist and citrus-infused cold brew coffee. 30:00: Segment: The Goat Pen With Carlton Fowler – Fowler riffed on his love for Magnolia Bakery’s new packaged cookie line before explaining how he defines and invests in outlier companies and his perspective on celebrity and creator-led brands. He also explained why a brand’s track record isn’t necessarily an indication of its potential, how and why investors can get it wrong and his advice on what to leave out of a pitch deck. Brands in this episode: Vita Coco, Zico, Coolhaus, Brave Robot, Honest Tea, Just Ice Tea, Dirty Lemon, Ibex, NJoy, Rise Brewing Co., La Colombe, Door County Coffee, Bai, Lemon Perfect, Chargel, Raw Bliss Balls, Creation Nation, Healthy Truth, Combos, Daily Crunch, Goldfish, Heyday Canning Co., A Dozen Cousins, Fillo’s, Barnacle Foods, Frank’s Hot Sauce, Tabasco, Nectar Hard Seltzer, The Good Crisp, HopLark, BeatBox Beverages

Tom Colicchio is a gastronomic icon. He also likes his tomato sauce out of a jar. Colicchio, who is the head judge and an executive producer of acclaimed TV reality competition “Top Chef” and the owner of award-winning restaurant group Crafted Hospitality, is a partner in Colicchio Kitchen, a premium brand of sauces and condiments that are positioned as high-quality and convenient products for home chefs. Recently rebranded from The Jersey Tomato Company, Colicchio Kitchen debuted at the 2023 Summer Fancy Food Show held from June 25-27, and showcased a broad range of products, including its Colicchio Collection of ultra-premium cooking and pairing sauces. In this episode, Colicchio spoke about his involvement in the brand and his role in the development of its products, his perspective on adding an ethnic-themed line, how he defines “good food” and why he’s less intimidating than you might think. From tomato sauce in jars to cocktails in cans, this episode also highlights a remarkable partnership between upstart beverage company Social Hour and iconic spirit brand George Dickel.  Launched in 2020, Social Hour markets premium RTD craft cocktails made with high-quality ingredients, including a Gin & Tonic, Whiskey Mule and Yuzu Sunset Fizz. In 2021, Social Hour aligned with legacy whiskey brand George Dickel to launch its seasonally-inspired Harvest Whiskey Sour, an expression made with Dickel’s 13-year-old Tennessee whiskey and re-released the following year. The companies teamed up once again in 2023 to create the summer-themed Social Hour Bourbon Smash made with Dickel Bourbon, which was introduced in late June. Social Hour co-founder Tom Macy and Nicole Austin, the general manager and distiller of George Dickel whiskey spoke about the origins of the partnership, how the collaboration aligned the aims of both brands and how the relationship may develop down the line. Show notes: 0:48: Interview: Tom Colicchio, Partner, Colicchio Kitchen – Colicchio met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif in New York City and spoke about his experience at the 2023 Summer Fancy Food, why growing up in New Jersey had a significant impact on his initial decision to develop a consumer brand and the companies expansion into condiments. He also discussed his evaluation of flavor and functional ingredients when it comes to great tasting food and Italian cuisine is the primary focus for Colicchio Kitchen. 14:04 Interview: Tom Macy, Co-Founder, Social Hour & Nicole Austin, General Manager/Distiller, George Dickel — Macy recalled his experience in BevNET Cocktail Showdown 2 competition and discussed how he has navigated an increasingly crowded RTD cocktail category. Austin spoke about her interest in creating a canned cocktail and why she jumped at the opportunity to work with Social Hour, how she and Macy attempted to reduce the red tape when creating the partnership between the two companies, why they chose to develop a Bourbon Smash and why they’re not looking too far down the line for the next product. Brands in this episode: Colicchio Kitchen, Social Hour, George Dickel