

The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
Design Observer
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, they examine creative practices, challenge conventional thinking, and explore how design drives business, innovation, and social change.In Season 12 of DB|BD, host Ellen McGirt explores Designing for the Unknown—how visionary designers, architects, and thinkers navigate uncertainty, from climate adaptation to technological disruption. This season, we’re looking at the bold ideas reshaping our cities, industries, and ways of living in an unpredictable world.
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Oct 18, 2022 • 19min
S10E5.5: Minisode
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Perrin Drumm, and Annie Atkins. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Oct 4, 2022 • 36min
S10E5: Annie Atkins
Annie Atkins is a graphic props designer for film and television.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Sep 20, 2022 • 29min
S10E4: Perrin Drumm
Perrin Drumm is a writer, editor, and head of publishing at A24.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Aug 16, 2022 • 42min
FEED DROP: The Futures Archive
The Design of Business | The Business of Design is taking a mid season hiatus, but new episodes will be dropping in September. In the meantime, we wanted to share a different show from Design Observer, The Futures Archive. The season finale of its second season will drop this coming Thursday, August 18th.The Futures Archive is a podcast that looks at the history of human-centered design with a critical eye to its future. In each episode, we begin with an object, interrogating the motives and methods that put people—and their complex needs and desires, at the center of the design process.On this episode: What are the relationships between design and pleasure? And how can we design the most pleasurable experiences? Lee Moreau and Rachel Lehrer discuss the disco ball and the importance of embodied design.To hear more from our DBBD archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

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Aug 2, 2022 • 15min
S10E3.5: Minisode
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari unpack the idea of branding, being branded, and choosing your own brand.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Jul 26, 2022 • 31min
S10E3: Vernon Lockhart
Vernon Lockhart is the Executive Director of Project Osmosis, a Chicago based design education and mentoring initiative.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Jul 19, 2022 • 14min
S10E2.5: Minisode
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari discuss design emancipation, risk and reward, and a flightless parrot.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Jul 12, 2022 • 37min
S10E2: Jane Saks
Jane Saks is the President and Artisitic Director of Project&, and the co-Founder and co-Artisitic Director of M2M: Monuments to Movements.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Jun 28, 2022 • 16min
S10E1.5: Minisode
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari discuss the value of bridging a diversity of broad experience to a design team.To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!

Jun 21, 2022 • 34min
S10E1: Ernesto Quinteros
Redefining the boundaries between people, products, and patients: Ernesto Quinteros, the Chief Design Officer at Johnson & Johnson. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app!