Spiritual Life and Leadership

Allen Hilton, Executive Director of A House United, and Andrew Hanauer, CEO of One America Movement, bring a wealth of experience and practical insight into how our churches can navigate political and cultural division, especially during this very divisive election season. We explore their strategies for "courageous conversations" and the importance of understanding and empathy in overcoming polarization—crucial topics for any ministry leader aiming to foster a congregation of love and unity.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:It’s important for churches to address moments of violence, such as the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump.  People need spiritual leadership in these times.Andrew Hanauer highlights the necessity of individuals taking personal responsibility for their role in division before blaming others.Allen Hilton points out that mingling across divides and having extended contact with others can reduce tendencies to blame.Markus Watson shares his trepidation about discussing divisive incidents within the church, recognizing the need despite potential conflicts.Allen Hilton insists that churches should engage in political conversations as politics profoundly impacts everyone’s lives.The church’s role, according to Andrew Hanauer, is to provide a framework for understanding the world, not avoiding political engagement.Andrew Hanauer asserts that facilitating tough conversations within congregations demonstrates a community's strength and unity.Andrew Hanauer promotes the value of diverse opinions in faith communities to build resilience in times of societal crises.Allen Hilton believes churches have a duty to form individuals “off the spot” who can navigate and mitigate polarization.Andrew Hanauer encourages the practice of praying for people we might consider enemies, which can transform our viewpoint towards them.Faith communities have the opportunity to model unity and provide spiritual meaning during times of loneliness and disconnection.The conversation concludes with Watson, Hilton, and Hanauer emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, responsible voting, and loving both neighbors and enemies to combat political polarization in our society.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Allen Hilton:House United MovementAndrew Hanauer:One America MovementRelated episodes:Leading Your Church Through Political Division, with Allen HiltonIs American Unity Possible?Prayer for a President in PainGrace-Filled Politics, with Aaron SchaferSend me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Get Becoming Leaders of Shalom for free HERE.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss the importance of transitions in both individual and organizational life, as highlighted by a quote from Terry Walling. They explore the concept of the "in between," likening it to the liminal space where significant transformation occurs. Bolsinger emphasizes that these periods of uncertainty are essential for faith and growth, encouraging leaders to embrace learning and personal journey as they guide their communities through times of change. The episode explores the challenges of these transitions and provides insights on how leaders can navigate them effectively.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Terry Walling in Ep 212, Unlearning Old Paradigms for Kingdom Leadership:“Transitions are the most important moments in an individual’s life and in an organization’s life because God does some of his greatest work in the in-between.”THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Leaders must embrace the journey of learning to move forward effectively.Churches need to let go of immediate stability to experience transformational growth.Leaders should engage in their own continuous spiritual journey to inspire others.Congregations often resist the discomfort of transitional periods but must persevere.Effective interim leadership requires guiding churches through the unknown with faith.Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Amy Peeler, author of Hebrews: Commentaries for Christian Formation, shares her insights on leadership through the lens of the book of Hebrews, drawing parallels between Jesus’ steadfast priesthood and the role of modern pastors and leaders. Her reflections on enduring hope, resilience, and the practicalities of leading a post-COVID church are valuable for all who are in ministry leadership.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Amy Peeler explains the concept of loss and how it impacts the community when leaders pass away.Churches feel the impact of the loss of beloved mentors and leaders of faith.Amy Peeler emphasizes the comfort that Jesus Christ offers as an unwavering and stable leader.Amy Peeler emphasizes the need to navigate through confusion, exhaustion, and resistance in the wilderness, offering advice for leaders leading through change.The famous faith chapter, Hebrews 11, emphasizes enduring hope in God and faith as the foundation of good leadership.Amy Peeler highlights the imagery of holding on to Jesus as a boat is tethered to its anchor from Hebrews 6, emphasizing resting in Jesus' strength when things are difficult in our leadership.Humility and service are so important in leadership, even when being a pastor feels costly.Amy Peeler explores the importance of helping congregations navigate loss and resistance.Amy Peeler examines the practical instructions for leaders and the principles for leadership found throughout the letter of Hebrews.Hebrews' message includes the call for leaders to keep trusting in God, especially during persecution.Pastors and priests, according to Amy Peeler, are mediators, similar to Jesus' role as High Priest.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Amy Peeler:www.amypeeler.comWheaton CollegeBooks mentioned:Hebrews: Commentaries for Christian Formation, by Amy PeelerWomen and the Gender of God, by Amy PeelerRelated episodes:Power, Vulnerability, Rest, with Tod BolsingerLeading Like Jesus, with Ken BlanchardSend me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Get Becoming Leaders of Shalom for free HERE.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger engage in a discerning conversation about the leadership and mission implications of the idea that God is already pesent in every culture. They consider the respect and humility required when entering new cultures and relationships, especially with the understanding that God's presence and work precede us. Through personal stories and theological insights, they explore the posture of listening and joining in what God is already doing, rather than imposing our preconceptions.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Justin Bailey in Episode 173, The Art of Interpreting Culture:“You never go to another culture where God is not already present and at work.”THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:God actively engages in all cultures even before we arrive, as highlighted by Justin Bailey's insight that one never enters a culture where God isn't already present and working.Leaders enhance their missions by respectfully listening first, acknowledging God's presence in every context, as emphasized by Tod Bolsinger's agreement with Justin Bailey.Christian engagement with others thrives when it begins with humility and recognition of God's preexisting activity, instead of approaching with a colonial mindset of bringing God to an empty space.Spiritual encounters flourish when the approach is invitational and inclusive, as demonstrated by Markus Watson's open communion table welcoming all individuals to participate.Adaptive leadership calls for joining in what God is already doing within a community, rather than imposing a preconceived agenda, thus resonating with an organic and responsive mode of spiritual leadership.Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the authors of Church For Everyone: Building a Multi-Inclusive Community, explore the importance of multi-inclusivity in church leadership, the need to empower young people in decision-making, and the steps required to break down socio-economic and cultural barriers within our faith communities.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Creating spaces and processes for the emerging generation to have voice and participate in decision-making within multi-inclusive churches is crucial.In the Evangelical Covenant Church, the 6-fold test for multi-ethnic ministry includes population, participation, and power as key aspects to consider.Efforts to create spaces for feedback and participation are a key step in promoting inclusion and diversity in churches.Efrem Smith emphasizes the need to intentionally hire diverse staff and involve the emerging generation in shaping the church's narrative.Dan Kreiss points out that long-standing churches with deep traditions face greater challenges and need intentional discomfort and leadership formation to create a multi-inclusive community.According to Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the diverse and multi-ethnic nature of the younger generation is not reflected in many church contexts on Sunday mornings.Dan Kreiss points out that building relationships with those outside his predominantly Caucasian church is essential to foster inclusion and understanding.Efrem Smith underscores the need to eliminate excuses for young people to dismiss the church and to create a multi-inclusive community that reflects the diversity found in other aspects of their lives.God can use individuals of different generations to advance his kingdom, as demonstrated by the biblical stories of David, Esther, Abraham, and Josiah.The letters of Paul emphasize the importance of a multi-inclusive, Christ-centered community, reflecting the multicultural and intergenerational nature of the church.According to Dan Kreiss, starting the journey towards a multi-inclusive church involves intentional efforts to build relationships with diverse communities.Dan Kreiss encourages pastors to surround themselves with others in the community for support and accountability.Efrem Smith says the move from stigmatizing the younger generation to becoming friends and missionaries to them is essential.Navigating the tensions between different generations is part of maintaining an intergenerational and diverse church environment.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Efrem Smith:Mid-town ChurchInfluential Global MinistriesInstagram - @efrem.smithDan Kreiss:Roswell Presbyterian ChurchInstagram - @dan_kreissBooks mentioned:Church for Everyone, by Efrem Smith and Dan KreissRelated episodes:Called to Each Other, with Claude AlexanderMinistry Leadership in a Racialized Society, with David SwansonSend me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Get Becoming Leaders of Shalom for free HERE.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Tod Bolsinger brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to this conversation, challenging us to resist nostalgia and the allure of a past era—like the 1960s, when the church thrived in a very different context. Reflecting on a quote from Miroslav Volf, Bolsinger, together with Markus Watson, contemplates the dangers of yearning for what no longer exists and the pressing need to adapt to a future we can't fully see yet.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from MIroslav Volf in Episode 169, TThe Materiality of God’s Mission:“We can’t orient ourselves around the old world; it would be dumb for us to do that.  And we don’t know how to orient ourselves with a world that hasn’t yet been born.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Many of our churches represent an "old world" paradigm, one led by experienced elders rather reminiscent of past church glories.Clinging to past success impedes churches from effectively engaging with and inhabiting the emerging world.Tod Bolsinger underscores the futility of solving new challenges with outdated solutions, advocating for a learning-oriented approach to leadership.Markus Watson acknowledges that navigating without a clear map of the future requires faith and adaptability.Bolsinger insists that the mission isn't to preserve the church but to pass the faith forward, adapting to the world's evolving needs.Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

In ministry leadership, how we respond to crises significantly impacts not just our journey, but also the communities we serve. Painful experiences like this can be crucibles that mold our character, highlight the importance of emotional presence, and underscore the need for institutional stamina—how do we get through this together?Gayle Beebe is the president of Westmont College and author of The Crucibles That Shape Us.  In this conversation, and he shares some of the ways he has had to lead through tragedy and crisis.  He unpacks concepts like competing commitments which are exposed in times of crisis.  He talks about the importance of having processing partners in our leadership. And he shares some of the profound lessons he learned from both the personal and institutional tragedies that he has had to lead through. This episode's highlights include:The seven crucibles from Gayle Beebe’s book are:The Crucible of Missed MeaningThe Crucible of Enduring ChallengeThe Crucible of Human TreacheryThe Crucible of Awakened Moral ConscienceThe Crucible of Social ConflictThe Crucible of Human SufferingThe Crucible of Personal ChoiceGayle Beebe discusses how individuals experience competing commitments in both personal and social contexts and the significant consequences individuals face when failing to balance competing commitments effectively.Personal losses and tragedies can shape leaders, developing their empathy and perspectives.Gayle Beebe reflects on how challenging experiences have deepened his understanding of God and reshaped his meaning in life.Leaders feel great pressure to maintain composure; thus the need for having a processing partner.Gayle Beebe reflects on Westmont College's response to the events of 2020, including the murder of George Floyd.Westmont College leaned into its existing commitments to justice, reconciliation, and diversity, focusing on building partnerships with those already engaged in work related to justice and diversity.Westmont College sought out and hired diverse faculty and staff to promote inclusivity, engaging in comprehensive training for the board, executive team, faculty, staff, and students.The discussion highlights key strategies like treating everyone with integrity, care, and respect.Westmont College identified bridge builders from minority populations to enhance community relationships.Gayle Beebe talks about handling emotionally devastating events, such as natural disasters, with spiritual strength and he discusses the learnings and resilience he developed from facing institutional crises, including the wildfires that impacted Westmont's campus.Relevant Resources and Links:Gayle BeebeEmail - president@westmont.eduWestmont CollegeBooks mentioned:The Crucibles that Shape Us, by Gayle BeebePensées, by Blaise PascalThinking Fast and Slow, by Daniel KahnemanRelated episodes:Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Get Becoming Leaders of Shalom for free HERE.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

This episode explores the critical role of joy in fostering deep connections within our communities. As Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson consider how an atmosphere of joy can be crafted and communicated through our actions, they discuss how this translates to effective ministry and church leadership.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Jim Wilder in Episode 179, The Neuroscience of Spiritual Formation:"In order to get people to attach to each other you have to create an environment of joy where people are glad to be together."THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Leaders must foster an environment of joy to help community members form strong bonds with each other.Authentic joy in relationships emerges when individuals feel truly valued and important to one another.Communicating warm, genuine excitement through physical presence bolsters connections within a community.Instilling a sense of joyful belonging serves as the foundation for transformative life experiences.Embracing challenges becomes enriching when undertaken alongside a community that cares deeply for one another.Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Strong sermons, pastoral care and counseling, leading Bible studies.  These are all really important for effective ministry leadership.  But leading a church or organization is more than just that, isn’t it?In this episode, Mike Bonem--consultant, coach, and author of The Art of Leading Change--offers invaluable insights into how trust, effective team-building, and adept communication can transform your leadership and help you navigate the complexities of ministry.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Mike Bonem highlights the importance of trust in leadership, emphasizing that people are unlikely to give 110% if they don't trust their leader.Markus Watson notes that trust has different dimensions and can erode gradually through unfulfilled commitments and unmet expectations.Trust is built through follow-through on commitments and investing in relational components.When there is trust within a congregation, people are more likely to give the benefit of the doubt, get involved in initiatives, and commit to change.Trust is about being trustworthy as a person, not just doing things to gain trust.Manipulation by leaders is easily detected, underscoring the necessity of integrity.Mike Bonem discusses the importance of building strong teams to handle heavy loads and accomplish needed tasks.Building a strong team involves intentionally enlisting different perspectives and gifts.It is important to include people who bring different perspectives in the planning stages.Mike Bonem elaborates on the value of getting different perspectives and gifts in the room for effective team building.Markus Watson reflects on his own experience of leading change in a church amid the pandemic, highlighting how difficult it was.Mike Bonem emphasizes the importance of incorporating business practices into pastoral work to improve leadership in congregations.Mike Bonem and Markus Watson discuss key principles for leading change, including leading with trust, recognizing the importance of strong teams, and understanding that resistors are not the enemy.Mike Bonem’s Fuller Equip online course "The Business of Ministry" provides fundamental training for pastors in areas such as finance, HR, and church business.The first module of Mike Bonem’s course addresses the debate on whether the church should adopt business practices to ensure good stewardship of resources.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Mike Bonem:Website – mikebonem.comBusiness of Ministry online courseBooks mentioned:The Art of Leading Change, by Mike BonemLeading from the Second Chair, by Mike BonemStrengthening the Soul of Your Leadership, by Ruth Haley BartonSacred Rhythms, by Ruth Haley BartonGood to Great, by Jim CollinsSend me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Get Becoming Leaders of Shalom for free HERE.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger reflect on their passion for exploration as an essential element of leadership, discussing the current crisis where the church often resists change and clings to the past rather than venturing into the unknown. Together, they explore the challenges in embracing exploration within the church, examine the role faith plays in embarking on new journeys, and contemplate how our structures often dissuade us from the very essence of adventure that following Jesus entails.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Dwight Gibson in Episode 25, Organizational Change and the Way of Exploration:“As people of faith I would like to believe we have a greater capacity for exploration because we do recognize there is something beyond ourselves.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Faith calls believers to embrace exploration and take on the risks that come with following Jesus.Current church culture often resists change and exploration, preferring to maintain the status quo.The Church Leadership Institute aims to equip individuals with the skills needed to navigate uncharted territories.Believers must learn to let go of the past, embodying humility and accepting potential losses, to move forward.God's presence provides reassurance and support for the faithful as they embark upon new, explorative journeys.Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.