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Aug 20, 2024 • 36min

230. The Power of an 8-word Mission Statement, with Tod Bolsinger

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Tod Bolsinger, Executive director of the Church Leadership Institute, discusses how to maintain a commitment to your mission even in the face of resistance.  He also unpacks the importance of trust in leadership, as well as how to craft and use a powerful mission statement guide you in your church’s or organization’s decision-making.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Tod Bolsinger introduces the "Disagree and commit" concept, highlighting its importance in leadership.Leaders need to earn trust for effective mission adherence.Trust alone isn't transformation, but foundational for it.Tod Bolsinger emphasizes the necessity of investing in transformation over merely relying on trust.Trust and transformation are connected; transformation involves investing trust.Tod Bolsinger discusses his series of four books on ministry leadership, addressing common leadership mistakes.The first book, "How Not to Waste a Crisis," tackles the mistake of outworking the changing world.Markus Watson shares his church's challenge in pleasing crucial stakeholders during change.Tod Bolsinger stresses that organizations should thrive in crises, not just survive.Tod Bolsinger explains the "disagree and commit" approach as essential for leadership teams.Mission statements should be rooted in the church's context and community.Clear, 8-word mission statements with verb, target, and impact are vital for decision-making.Tod Bolsinger explains the significance of verbs, targets, and impacts in mission statements.Good leaders rally stakeholders together for a bigger cause, but can fall into the trap of making decisions to keep everyone happy.Mission statements should be tools for making decisions, not just taglines.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Tod Bolsinger:Church Leadership InstituteFuller Theological SeminaryBooks mentioned:How Not to Waste a Crisis: Quit Trying Harder, by Tod BolsingerInvest in Transformation: Quit Relying on Trust, by Tod BolsingerLeading Through Resistance: Quit Pushing Back, by Tod BolsingerThe Mission Always Wins: Quit Appeasing Stakeholders, by Tod BolsingerRelated episodes:Canoeing the Mountains, with Tod BolsingerDisorientation and Spiritual Leadership, with Tod BolsingerThe Spiritual Life of a Leader, with Tod BolsingerForming Leadership Resilience, with Tod BolsingerClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Aug 13, 2024 • 8min

229. The Fear-Driven Church, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss a quote from episode 216 with guests Brad Strawn and Warren Brown. The quote highlights the perception that contemporary Christianity in the United States is more known for what it opposes than for what it supports. Tod Bolsinger explores this phenomenon, attributing it to the psychological tendency to focus on fears rather than potential gains. The discussion delves into how this fear-based mindset influences church leadership and community actions, emphasizing the need for churches to rally around positive and constructive goals rather than being driven by anxiety and opposition.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Brad Strawn in Ep 216, Overcoming ‘Puny’ Spirituality:"I think one of the sad things about the state of contemporary Christianity in the United States is that we're known for, not what we do, but what we're against."THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Brad Strawn's quote highlights how contemporary Christianity focuses more on what it opposes than what it supports.Tod Bolsinger explains that fear motivates people to reject potential gains, influencing church behavior.The conversation reveals that pastors often worry about negative outcomes, leading congregations to prioritize protection over potential.Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger discuss how anxiety drives leadership to control rather than inspire.Tod Bolsinger calls for Christians to unite around positive community impacts rather than opposition to unfavorable elements.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Aug 6, 2024 • 22min

228. Dismantling the Myth of the White God, with Grace Ji-Sun Kim, author of When God Became White

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Grace Ji-Sun Kim, theology professor at Earlham School of Religion and the author of When God Became White, discusses how cultural forces throughout history have shaped the portrayal of both God and Jesus as white males, and how that portrayal has hurt our ability to be the leaders we need to be.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Grace Ji-Sun Kim discusses the historical influence of the Roman Empire in shaping the perception of a white male God in Christianity.Cultural and societal forces led to the dominant image of a white male deity.Grace Ji-Sun Kim suggests reimagining God within different cultural contexts to challenge this prevailing narrative.Artists portraying Jesus in various ethnicities counteract the dominant white male imagery.Portraying God in diverse ways can be valuable and necessary.Markus Watson shares an example of a teacher's experiment to illustrate that race is a social construct, not a biological one.The conversation touches on the harmful implications of using race as a biological concept to assert superiority.According to Grace Ji-Sun Kim the feminine naming of Hagia Sophia as holy wisdom holds significant importance in church history.Diverse voices are crucial for leading change within churches.Grace Ji-Sun Kim suggests that white people should diversify their reading, podcast listening, and sermon choices for a deeper understanding.Markus Watson recounts his childhood exposure to a white Jesus, reflecting on its impact.Grace Ji-Sun Kim emphasizes the need to challenge and critique the prevailing image of a white male God.Practical steps for churches include critically analyzing liturgy, deeply engaging with scripture, and welcoming diverse perspectives for a fuller understanding of God.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Grace Ji-Sun Kim:Earlham School of ReligionMadang PodcastLoving Life SubstackBooks mentioned:When God Became White, by Grace Ji-Sun KimRelated episodes:Building a Multi-Inclusive Church, with Efrem Smith and Dan KreissCultivating Cultural Competence, with Daniel LeeCalled to Each Other, with Claude AlexanderMinistry Leadership in a Racialized Society, with David SwansonClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jul 30, 2024 • 7min

227. Effective Team Management, a Quick Conversation withTod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss a quote from Mike Bonem, which underscores the importance of empowering team members to fulfill their roles. They explore the necessity of recruiting the right people and then giving them the freedom to execute their tasks effectively. Tod emphasizes the value of clarity in mission and supportive leadership, allowing team members to excel in their areas of expertise without micromanagement. He also introduces the concept of "the commander's intent" to highlight the balance between freedom and direction in team management.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Mike Bonem in Ep 218, Trust, Teams, and Transformational Leadership:“If you’re gonna recruit the right people to be on the team, then you need to release them to do the work that God has called them to do.”THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Mike Bonem's quote emphasizes the importance of recruiting the right people and then empowering them to fulfill their roles. Tod Bolsinger advises that effective leaders clearly communicate their mission to their team members.A good leader recruits talented individuals and grants them autonomy.Leaders should provide clarity and support to their team members.Leaders should hire people who are experts in their roles and trust them to perform their tasks independently.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jul 23, 2024 • 50min

226. Tackling Toxic Polarization in Your Church, with Allen Hilton and Andrew Hanauer

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Allen Hilton, Executive Director of A House United, and Andrew Hanauer, CEO of One America Movement, bring a wealth of experience and practical insight into how our churches can navigate political and cultural division, especially during this very divisive election season. We explore their strategies for "courageous conversations" and the importance of understanding and empathy in overcoming polarization—crucial topics for any ministry leader aiming to foster a congregation of love and unity.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:It’s important for churches to address moments of violence, such as the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump.  People need spiritual leadership in these times.Andrew Hanauer highlights the necessity of individuals taking personal responsibility for their role in division before blaming others.Allen Hilton points out that mingling across divides and having extended contact with others can reduce tendencies to blame.Markus Watson shares his trepidation about discussing divisive incidents within the church, recognizing the need despite potential conflicts.Allen Hilton insists that churches should engage in political conversations as politics profoundly impacts everyone’s lives.The church’s role, according to Andrew Hanauer, is to provide a framework for understanding the world, not avoiding political engagement.Andrew Hanauer asserts that facilitating tough conversations within congregations demonstrates a community's strength and unity.Andrew Hanauer promotes the value of diverse opinions in faith communities to build resilience in times of societal crises.Allen Hilton believes churches have a duty to form individuals “off the spot” who can navigate and mitigate polarization.Andrew Hanauer encourages the practice of praying for people we might consider enemies, which can transform our viewpoint towards them.Faith communities have the opportunity to model unity and provide spiritual meaning during times of loneliness and disconnection.The conversation concludes with Watson, Hilton, and Hanauer emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, responsible voting, and loving both neighbors and enemies to combat political polarization in our society.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Allen Hilton:House United MovementAndrew Hanauer:One America MovementRelated episodes:Leading Your Church Through Political Division, with Allen HiltonIs American Unity Possible?Prayer for a President in PainGrace-Filled Politics, with Aaron SchaferClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jul 16, 2024 • 7min

225. God's Work in the In-Between, a Quick Conversation withTod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss the importance of transitions in both individual and organizational life, as highlighted by a quote from Terry Walling. They explore the concept of the "in between," likening it to the liminal space where significant transformation occurs. Bolsinger emphasizes that these periods of uncertainty are essential for faith and growth, encouraging leaders to embrace learning and personal journey as they guide their communities through times of change. The episode explores the challenges of these transitions and provides insights on how leaders can navigate them effectively.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Terry Walling in Ep 212, Unlearning Old Paradigms for Kingdom Leadership:“Transitions are the most important moments in an individual’s life and in an organization’s life because God does some of his greatest work in the in-between.”THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Leaders must embrace the journey of learning to move forward effectively.Churches need to let go of immediate stability to experience transformational growth.Leaders should engage in their own continuous spiritual journey to inspire others.Congregations often resist the discomfort of transitional periods but must persevere.Effective interim leadership requires guiding churches through the unknown with faith.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jul 9, 2024 • 39min

224. Leadership Through the Lens of Hebrews, with Amy Peeler, author of Hebrews: Commentaries for Christian Formation

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Amy Peeler, author of Hebrews: Commentaries for Christian Formation, shares her insights on leadership through the lens of the book of Hebrews, drawing parallels between Jesus’ steadfast priesthood and the role of modern pastors and leaders. Her reflections on enduring hope, resilience, and the practicalities of leading a post-COVID church are valuable for all who are in ministry leadership.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Amy Peeler explains the concept of loss and how it impacts the community when leaders pass away.Churches feel the impact of the loss of beloved mentors and leaders of faith.Amy Peeler emphasizes the comfort that Jesus Christ offers as an unwavering and stable leader.Amy Peeler emphasizes the need to navigate through confusion, exhaustion, and resistance in the wilderness, offering advice for leaders leading through change.The famous faith chapter, Hebrews 11, emphasizes enduring hope in God and faith as the foundation of good leadership.Amy Peeler highlights the imagery of holding on to Jesus as a boat is tethered to its anchor from Hebrews 6, emphasizing resting in Jesus' strength when things are difficult in our leadership.Humility and service are so important in leadership, even when being a pastor feels costly.Amy Peeler explores the importance of helping congregations navigate loss and resistance.Amy Peeler examines the practical instructions for leaders and the principles for leadership found throughout the letter of Hebrews.Hebrews' message includes the call for leaders to keep trusting in God, especially during persecution.Pastors and priests, according to Amy Peeler, are mediators, similar to Jesus' role as High Priest.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Amy Peeler:www.amypeeler.comWheaton CollegeBooks mentioned:Hebrews: Commentaries for Christian Formation, by Amy PeelerWomen and the Gender of God, by Amy PeelerRelated episodes:Power, Vulnerability, Rest, with Tod BolsingerLeading Like Jesus, with Ken BlanchardClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jul 2, 2024 • 8min

223. Discovering Where God is Already at Work, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Markus Watson and Tod Bolsinger engage in a discerning conversation about the leadership and mission implications of the idea that God is already pesent in every culture. They consider the respect and humility required when entering new cultures and relationships, especially with the understanding that God's presence and work precede us. Through personal stories and theological insights, they explore the posture of listening and joining in what God is already doing, rather than imposing our preconceptions.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from Justin Bailey in Episode 173, The Art of Interpreting Culture:“You never go to another culture where God is not already present and at work.”THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:God actively engages in all cultures even before we arrive, as highlighted by Justin Bailey's insight that one never enters a culture where God isn't already present and working.Leaders enhance their missions by respectfully listening first, acknowledging God's presence in every context, as emphasized by Tod Bolsinger's agreement with Justin Bailey.Christian engagement with others thrives when it begins with humility and recognition of God's preexisting activity, instead of approaching with a colonial mindset of bringing God to an empty space.Spiritual encounters flourish when the approach is invitational and inclusive, as demonstrated by Markus Watson's open communion table welcoming all individuals to participate.Adaptive leadership calls for joining in what God is already doing within a community, rather than imposing a preconceived agenda, thus resonating with an organic and responsive mode of spiritual leadership.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jun 25, 2024 • 40min

222. Building a Multi-Inclusive Church, with Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, authors of Church for Everyone

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the authors of Church For Everyone: Building a Multi-Inclusive Community, explore the importance of multi-inclusivity in church leadership, the need to empower young people in decision-making, and the steps required to break down socio-economic and cultural barriers within our faith communities.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Creating spaces and processes for the emerging generation to have voice and participate in decision-making within multi-inclusive churches is crucial.In the Evangelical Covenant Church, the 6-fold test for multi-ethnic ministry includes population, participation, and power as key aspects to consider.Efforts to create spaces for feedback and participation are a key step in promoting inclusion and diversity in churches.Efrem Smith emphasizes the need to intentionally hire diverse staff and involve the emerging generation in shaping the church's narrative.Dan Kreiss points out that long-standing churches with deep traditions face greater challenges and need intentional discomfort and leadership formation to create a multi-inclusive community.According to Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the diverse and multi-ethnic nature of the younger generation is not reflected in many church contexts on Sunday mornings.Dan Kreiss points out that building relationships with those outside his predominantly Caucasian church is essential to foster inclusion and understanding.Efrem Smith underscores the need to eliminate excuses for young people to dismiss the church and to create a multi-inclusive community that reflects the diversity found in other aspects of their lives.God can use individuals of different generations to advance his kingdom, as demonstrated by the biblical stories of David, Esther, Abraham, and Josiah.The letters of Paul emphasize the importance of a multi-inclusive, Christ-centered community, reflecting the multicultural and intergenerational nature of the church.According to Dan Kreiss, starting the journey towards a multi-inclusive church involves intentional efforts to build relationships with diverse communities.Dan Kreiss encourages pastors to surround themselves with others in the community for support and accountability.Efrem Smith says the move from stigmatizing the younger generation to becoming friends and missionaries to them is essential.Navigating the tensions between different generations is part of maintaining an intergenerational and diverse church environment.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Efrem Smith:Mid-town ChurchInfluential Global MinistriesInstagram - @efrem.smithDan Kreiss:Roswell Presbyterian ChurchInstagram - @dan_kreissBooks mentioned:Church for Everyone, by Efrem Smith and Dan KreissRelated episodes:Called to Each Other, with Claude AlexanderMinistry Leadership in a Racialized Society, with David SwansonIdentity, Belonging, and Purpose, with Kara PowellClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.
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Jun 18, 2024 • 8min

221. Miroslav Volf's Take on Moving Forward, a Quick Conversation with Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Tod Bolsinger brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to this conversation, challenging us to resist nostalgia and the allure of a past era—like the 1960s, when the church thrived in a very different context. Reflecting on a quote from Miroslav Volf, Bolsinger, together with Markus Watson, contemplates the dangers of yearning for what no longer exists and the pressing need to adapt to a future we can't fully see yet.Tod Bolsinger and Markus Watson discuss this quote from MIroslav Volf in Episode 169, TThe Materiality of God’s Mission:“We can’t orient ourselves around the old world; it would be dumb for us to do that.  And we don’t know how to orient ourselves with a world that hasn’t yet been born.” THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Many of our churches represent an "old world" paradigm, one led by experienced elders rather reminiscent of past church glories.Clinging to past success impedes churches from effectively engaging with and inhabiting the emerging world.Tod Bolsinger underscores the futility of solving new challenges with outdated solutions, advocating for a learning-oriented approach to leadership.Markus Watson acknowledges that navigating without a clear map of the future requires faith and adaptability.Bolsinger insists that the mission isn't to preserve the church but to pass the faith forward, adapting to the world's evolving needs.Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

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