Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Too often, we separate our work in sacred work and secular work.  Because of this, we forget that God is present even in our most mundane, ordinary, "unspiritual" kinds of work.  Shannon Vandewarker, author of Working in the Presence of God, helps us see that in the midst of our seemingly ordinary places of work, we can draw close to God. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Shannon Vandewarker is the author of Working in the Presence of God: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Work.Shannon shares the story of what led her to write the book.The message of Working in the Presence of God is that our place of work can be a place where we encounter God in deep and intentional ways.The “liturgy of commute” is a systematic way of focusing on God as one drives, rides, or walks to work and from work.Shannon Vandewarker shares the way she practices the liturgy of commute.  Markus also shares the way he practices liturgy of commute.“Lamenting work” can be a profound experience for those who struggle in the work that they do.  Sometimes we need to lament in the midst of our work.Lamenting consists of pouring our hearts out to God and then listening to what God says in response.“Lamenting” is a foreign concept for many people.  Shannon offers some ideas for how to lament.The practices explored in Working in the Presence of God can be just as helpful for pastors and ministry leaders as for people working in “secular” jobs.It can also be helpful for pastors to invite church members to join them in doing some of these practices.For Shannon Vandewarker, engaging in these practices has helped her become more aware of God’s presence in every area of her life.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Shannon Vandewarker:Website:  http://shannonvandewarker.com/Instagram:  @shannonvandeFacebook:  https://www.facebook.com/shannon.vandewarkerBook:  Working In the Presence of God, by Shannon Vandewarker and Denise DanielsTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632To get bonus content, sign up to be a Patreon patron:https://www.patreon.com/markuswatsonClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Ted Gillgrist is a business leader and a committed follower of Jesus.  He's also one of my oldest friends!  In this episode, Ted shares some of the wisdom he’s learned about leadership over the past twenty-five years.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Ted Gillgrist is Vice President of Southern Diversified Distributors and a proud graduate of Slippery Rock University! (Also, Markus’ alma mater…)Ted and Markus were discipleship partners in the college ministry in which they were involved.Ted’s first significant leadership role was as a health care administrator.Ted shares about the challenges of stepping into leadership in a health care facility that was on the verge of being shut down.  He also tells the story of how he and his team restored the facility to a high level of competence and quality.In telling his story, Ted Gillgrist shares these three leadership lessons: Always give a person the tools to do a job before you determine they can’t.Various teams in an organization need to have a common “enemy” and have goals that overlap.Different people need different kinds of leaders.Ted feels like he has in some ways become a pastor to his employees.You can find Ted Gillgrist's company at www.twentyandoak.comRELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Books Mentioned:By Ken Blanchard:Lead Like JesusLeading at a Higher LevelLeadership and the One Minute ManagerTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!This bonus Christmas episodes contains five great mini-episodes from five great podcasts (one of which is this one)!TRUCEChris Staron draws a connection between the musical piece, Bolero, and the hope that the people of Israel felt as they longed for the Messiah.Find out more about the Truce podcast here:https://trucepodcast.com/THE ROAD HOME TO YOUBrandy Goebell offers twelve really helpful strategies for self-care during the Christmas season.Find out more about The Road Home to You here:http://theroadhometoyou.libsyn.com/BIBLICAL CHILIA fun, dramatized version of the shepherds’ and the magi’s encounter with Jesus, with a neat connection to Jesus’ parable of the Lost Sheep.Find out more about Biblical Chili here:https://biblicalchili.podbean.com/RAISING KIDS ON YOUR KNEESTina Smith shares about how God takes all the broken pieces of our lives and puts them back together again.Find out more about Raising Kids on Your Knees here:https://raisingkidsonyourknees.org/SPIRITUAL LIFE AND LEADERSHIPMarkus Watson shares how the women in Jesus’ genealogy reveal the deep love of God and the wide mercy of God.Find out more about Spiritual Life and Leadership, well, here:https://www.markuswatson.com/Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!When I read Amy Sherman's book, Kingdom Calling, it felt like the lights turned on for me.  As I read, it became more and more clear that God wants to restore healing and wholeness in our world, not merely through spiritual vocations like pastors and missionaries, but through every vocation.  Every kind of work is a way by which we love our neighbors and bring shalom into the world.In this episode, Amy Sherman unpacks the first part of Proverbs 11:10, which says, "When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices."  Why would a city rejoice at the prosperity of the righteous?  Wouldn't they be envious?  And yet...  There's something about the prospering of the righteous, both in the ancient world and the present day, that causes people and cities to rejoice!THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Amy Sherman is Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Faith in Communities at the Sagamore Institute.   Amy is also the author of Kingdom Calling:  Vocational Stewardship for the Common Good.The key verse on which Kingdom Calling is Proverbs 11:10a, which reads, “When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices.”The “righteous” are, in Hebrew, the tsaddiqim.  These are people who are so in love with God and so committed to his purposes in the world that they understand everything they have been given as blessings to be poured out for the sake of others and in worship of this God.The tsaddiqim understand that they have been blessed to be a blessing.This is different from the prosperity gospel, which teaches that our prosperity is for our own enjoyment, rather than for the common good.We can think of “righteousness” as “set-rightness.”  God longs to set all things right.  And this reminds us of that wonderful Hebrew word shalom.God wants flourishing not only for our souls, but also for our bodies.Peace with God is part of a fourfold shalom.  You can find out more about the four-fold nature of shalom in episode 3 of Spiritual Life and Leadership, The Fourfold Nature of Shalom.Vocational stewardship refers to “the intentional and strategic deployment of all of the dimensions of our vocational power to advance foretastes of the kingdom of God.”Life in the new heaven and new earth will be marked by such things as intimacy with God, perfect justice, peace, security, safety, health, beauty, and joy.  We are called to steward our vocations in ways that lead to all these things for our neighbors today.Amy Sherman shares two present-day examples of people who are living as the tsaddiqim today.  The first is a contractor who builds homes and neighborhoods designed to foster shalom.  The second is an interior designer who focuses on designing spaces that are for everyone, especially in regard to accessibility and mobility.You can find out more about Amy Sherman and her work at www.vocationalstewardship.org. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Amy Sherman:Website:  http://www.vocationalstewardship.org/Books mentioned:Kingdom Calling: Vocational Stewardship for the Common Good, by AClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!While we cover some delicate ground in this episode, Steve Austin’s story of surviving suicide is one of hope.  He doesn’t avoid the reality of what led him to attempt to take his life by suicide, but he also doesn’t hide the healing he has experienced in the years that followed.  Steve Austin offers a story of hope for all who are looking for healing and wholeness in their lives.  And he offers a picture of the kind of healing that I believe God wants for all creation to experience.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Steve Austin is a suicide survivor, as well as the author of Catching Your Breath and host of the Catching Your Breath podcast.Steve grew up in a very fundamentalist Christian culture.Steve is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.  His family thought he wouldn’t remember—which he didn’t until he was in high school.From the age of 17-29, Steve’s anxiety and depression got worse and worse.Steve hid his medication because he didn’t want his church thinking the pastor is taking “crazy pills.”At the age of 29, Steve attempted to take his life by suicide.  He believed the lie that he was a burden to his wife, his child, his friends and family—and thought it would be a gift to remove himself from their lives.Mental illness and traumatic experiences exacerbate one another.After his suicide experience, Steve felt anger, grief, and fear of people knowing the truth.Steve eventually shared his full story with a trusted friend.Steve’s wife committed to staying with him.  She said, “I don’t think the worst day of your life gets to define the rest of your life unless you let it.”Steve has become much more open to his own wounds and more open to the wounds of others.Steve Austin says he is now certain that God loves him—and that’s about all he is certain of.Markus and Steve discuss the reality that the way to peace is through suffering.The reason Steve didn’t succumb to cynicism or deeper suffering is because he was loved.  He also allowed himself to feel all the feelings—fear, anger, doubt, and so forth.Steve had to let go of the fear of what everyone else is going to think.Steve discusses how leaders can help people struggling with mental illness.You can find out more about Steve Austin at www.catchingyourbreath.com and click on “Start Here.”RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Steve Austin:Website:  www.catchingyourbreath.comTwitter:  @iamsteveaustinBooks mentioned:Catching Your Breath by Steve AustinFrom Pastor to a Psych Ward by Steve Austin Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!In this episode, Esther Lightcap Meek and I talk about love as the starting point for truly knowing reality, what it means to experience communion with the real—and why this matters for the on-the-ground work that you and I are doing as leaders of God’s people. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDEEsther Lightcap Meek is Professor of Philosophy at Geneva College and author of A Little Manual for Knowing.In chapter one of A Little Manual for Knowing, Esther states that “reality is a gift, and love is at the core of all things.  It is not impersonal; rather, it is person-like.”The pilgrimage of knowing begins with love, not with information.Active listening invites the real.  Not mere passive collecting of information, but actively inviting reality to self-disclose.Because we’ve reduced knowledge in the modern West to little bits of information, we can’t see what is really there.We need to go into our communities in humility looking for what God is already at work doing there.Creation is in its essence the love of God.  It is the expression of God’s love.When we truly begin to know reality, we enter into communion with that which is known. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKSEsther Lightcap MeekWebsite:  http://www.longingtoknow.com/Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Esther-Lightcap-Meek-110487169038640/Books mentionedA Little Manual for Knowing by Esther Lightcap MeekTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632 ---Links to Amazon are affiliate links.  If you make a purchase through any of these links, I'll receive a small commission--which will help pay for the Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast!  :-)Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!In this episode, we speak with Dave Ebert, Director and Founder of Well-Versed Comedy, and also the host of the Gifts for Glory podcast.  There's something life-giving about comedy, isn't there?  Why is that?  Why, after we have a good belly laugh, do we feel like the world is better than it was before?  Dave Ebert discusses what makes comedy so life-giving when it comes to restoring shalom in the world. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDEDave Ebert is the Director and Founder of Well-Versed Comedy.Dave found his way into comedy from a season of deep depression.Laughter has a tangible healing quality.Laughter can unite people.  It can break down walls.Dave’s comedy team will often go onstage before a keynote speaker in order to get the audience laughing.  But the purpose is not mere entertainment; it’s to bring everyone together and break down walls.In Episode 55: Healing Our Polarized World, Markus spoke with Dan White, Jr. about breaking down walls in our polarized world.Markus tells a story about seeing Brian Regan and the shared experience it created for him and another person.Dave Ebert says that, of the qualities of God that get expressed in comedy, love and joy are two of the first.“Laughter is the tangible evidence of hope.” –Michael JuniorMarkus shares about how the comedy show, Impractical Jokers, kept hope alive in him during a dark season of his life.Dan has been able to use his comedy to bring hope and healing to women who have been rescued from sex trafficking.There is a restoration of shalom when people laugh.Dan shares his thoughts on humor in the Bible.Dan started an annual comedy event called PureFest.  Next year it will be on the last weekend in September.You can find out more about Dave Ebert and his comedy at Gifts4Glory.com.If you are struggling with depression or suicidal thoughts, you are welcome to e-mail Dave Ebert anytime at dave@gifts4glory.com. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKSDave EbertWell-Versed Comedy website:  www.gifts4glory.comPureFest website: https://purefest.wixsite.com/purefestBooks mentionedLove Over Fear by Dan White, Jr.Choose Joy by Kay WarrenTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632 ---Links to Amazon are affiliate links.  If you make a purchase through any of these links, I'll receive a small commission--which will help pay for the Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast!  :-)Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!Jim Mullins recently wrote The Symphony of Mission: Playing Your Part in God’s Work in the World, which focuses on the ways we have been called to participate in God's mission of restoring healing and wholeness in the world.  In today’s episode, Jim and I talk about the basic “notes” of God’s mission (going with the "symphony of mission" metaphor), which come from chapter 2 of Jim's book.  The question Jim answers is, what basic elements are fundamental to our participating in God’s mission of restoration in the world?  THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDEJim Mullins is Pastor of Theological and Vocational Formation at Redemption Tempe and the Director of the  Faith, Work, and Rest Initiative for the Surge Network.Jim Mullins is also the author of The Symphony of Mission: Playing Your Part in God’s Work in the World.The Symphony of Mission as a metaphor is meant to capture the idea that we all have a part to play in the mission of God.Christ is the composer and conductor of this great song of the gospel that is being played to the nations.  And we, as his people, are called to find our instrument, our place in that symphony.The basic “notes” (i.e., the fundamental elements) of God’s mission are:With – Mission must include incarnational presenceFrom – Mission must be empowered by the SpiritAnd – Mission must be comprehensive in scopeUs – Mission must be communalBe – Mission must include a distinct way of lifeWhy – Mission must be motivated by loveLiving into God’s mission in these fundamental ways really must begin with the last one—love.A Symphony of Mission is available wherever books are sold.  Jim recommends purchasing it at www.heartsandminds.com.Also, check out Jim’s podcast, Faith, Work, and Rest. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKSThe Symphony of Mission by Jim Mullins and Michael GoheenOn AmazonOn HeartsandMindsBooks.comFaith, Work, and Rest podcasthttps://soundcloud.com/faithworkrestTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632 ---Links to Amazon are affiliate links.  If you make a purchase through any of these links, I'll receive a small commission--which will help pay for the Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast!  :-)Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!We live in a highly polarized culture.  We are polarized in all kinds of ways—politically, racially, even theologically.  And it keeps getting worse.  Why?  Because we don’t talk to each other.  All we see on the other side are monsters.  Even though, as today’s guest Dan White Jr. says, those "monsters" are image-bearers of God. In this episode, I speak with Dan White, Jr., about what causes polarization and how we can begin to heal from it. THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDEDan White, Jr., is a Movement Developer for V3 Movement, church-planting and author of Love Over Fear: Facing Monsters, Befriending Enemies, and Healing Our Polarized World.Dan recently read Living Into Community by Christine Pohl.  This book riffs off of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s Life Together.Dan shares what led him to write Love Over Fear.The book is a deep dive into how fear can control us.Dan describes how polarization involves the process of taking people who have something in common and turning them toward hate for one another.In a polarized culture, moving toward one another with love can feel like complicity.Dan explains some of the neurology involved in polarization.Some of the disciples came from vastly different backgrounds.  Yet, Jesus was able to bring them together.Jesus brings people together by being indiscriminate in his table fellowship.When we have compassion toward someone, we are able to see where they are suffering in their life.We can start connecting with people who are different by simply being inquisitive, by asking them questions.Dan tells the story of connecting with someone who believed strongly in legalizing marijuana.  Dan began by simply asking him inquisitive questions.We have a tendency to make “monsters” out of people we disagree with.Jesus didn’t see monsters.  He saw image-bearers.Find out more about Dan White, Jr., at www.loveoverfearproect.com.  And follow Dan on Twitter and Facebook. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKSDan White, Jr.:Website: https://www.loveoverfearproject.com/Twitter:  https://twitter.com/danwhitejrBooks mentioned:Love Over Fear by Dan White, Jr.Living Into Communityby Christine PohlLife Together by Dietrich BonhoefferTo leave a review of Spiritual Life and Leadership:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spiritual-life-and-leadership/id1435252632 ---Links to Amazon are affiliate links.  If you make a purchase through any of these links, I'll receive a small commission--which will help pay for the Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast!  :-)Click HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.

Send me a text! I’d love to know what you're thinking!In this episode, Aaron Klinefelter shares the story of how God called him out of that evangelical tradition into the Episcopal tradition. Aaron loves getting to belong to the Episcopal part of God’s family. But he’s noticed that there are some things he’s beginning to miss from his evangelical background.THIS EPISODE’S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Aaron Klinefelter is the Associate Rector at Trinity Church in Menlo Park, CA.Out of Solitude by Henri Nouwen is one of the most formative books Aaron has read.It was in college that Aaron was first introduced to the Episcopal church.But Aaron did not yet find a way into the Episcopal church at that time.After some time at Fuller Seminary, Aaron and his family moved to Cincinnati where he got involved in an emerging style church that had strong evangelical roots.Aaron was eventually hired to do youth ministry in an Episcopal church in Cincinnati. A few years later, Aaron began the Episcopal ordination process.When Aaron Klinefelter joined the Episcopal church, he felt like he had come home. But he also saw all the downsides of the denomination.Since being in the Episcopal church, Aaron finds there are aspects of his evangelical background that he misses.Aaron, still loves his Episcopalian home and is just now beginning to be able to express his feelings.In 1985, Robert Webber wrote Evangelicals on the Canterbury Trail where he observed a trend in which evangelicals were moving toward Anglicanism.Aaron Klinefelter’s evangelical background and Episcopalian present makes for fertile soil for experimentation. RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKSAaron Klinefelter: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aaronklinefelterInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/aaronklinefelter/Trinity Church: Website: http://www.trinitymenlopark.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trinitymenlo/Books mentioned: Out of Solitude by Henri NouwenA Generous Orthodoxy by Brian McLarenEvangelicals on the CanterburyClick HERE to get my FREE online course, BECOMING LEADERS OF SHALOM.