The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast

Kim and Brian Walker
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Jan 28, 2026 • 28min

The Most Important KPI You're Not Tracking with Chris Cotton [E189]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledYou might be tracking average repair order, car count, even gross profit, but are you looking at your average estimate? In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with coach and shop owner Chris Cotton to dig into what may be the most underutilized KPI in the auto repair industry. Chris lays out real numbers, explains why average estimate is a crystal ball into your sales process, and even shares the exact changes his shop made to 4x estimates and drive gross profit through the roof, all in just one year.If you’ve ever asked yourself “Why aren’t my tickets higher?” or “Do I really need another service advisor?” this is the episode for you. Plus, you’ll hear actionable advice on how to move the needle on closing ratios, the power of DVI, and why the right software may be the best investment you’ll ever make.Hit play and discover why average estimate might be the missing metric in your shop's growth strategy.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Acknowledgements (00:00:09) Host introduces the podcast, guest Chris Cotton, and thanks sponsors.Setting the Topic: The Most Important KPI You're Not Tracking (00:01:14) Discussion begins on the underutilized KPI: average estimate written by service advisors.Why Average Estimate Matters (00:01:47) Chris explains why average estimate is overlooked and its importance in diagnosing low average repair orders.How to Track Average Estimate (00:03:36) Discussion on how shop management systems track average estimate and the need to analyze by advisor and shop.Chris Cotton’s Shop Background and Context (00:04:23) Chris shares his dual role as coach and shop owner, and sets context for the numbers discussed.Differences Between Shop Types and KPIs (00:06:07) Explains how KPIs differ between general, specialty, and quick lube shops, and the impact on labor hours.Shop Operations: Car Count, Bays, and Staffing (00:07:25) Chris details his shop’s car count, number of bays, technicians, and unique seven-day schedule.Process Improvements and Estimate Presentation (00:09:29) Describes improvements in hours presented on estimates and the impact of digital vehicle inspections (DVIs).Leveraging Technology for Deferred Work (00:10:26) How CRM tools and online scheduling help sell deferred work and improve customer engagement.Transparency and Full Disclosure in Estimates (00:11:20) Chris’s philosophy on presenting all findings to customers for informed decision-making.What is a Good Average Estimate? (00:13:19) Chris shares a rule of thumb for average estimate based on vehicle mileage and shop type.Impact of Raising Average Estimate on Revenue (00:14:51) Chris details how increasing average estimate improved average repair order and overall revenue.Closing Ratio Challenges and Training (00:15:46) Discusses the drop in closing ratio after raising estimate size and ongoing training to improve sales.Staffing and Writing Estimates: Capacity and Care (00:17:04) Advice for shops understaffed or hesitant to write full estimates; importance of customer care.Legal and Moral Obligation to Inform Customers (00:18:14) Discusses legal cases and the obligation to inform customers of all vehicle issues.Gross Profit and Other Overlooked KPIs (00:21:06) Chris highlights the importance of tracking gross profit dollars, labor hours per ticket, and closing ratio.Strategies to Improve Closing Ratio (00:23:01) Focus on training, hiring the right people, and offering financing to boost closing rates.The Value of Good Shop Management Software (00:23:57) Emphasizes the ROI of robust shop management systems and the pitfalls of handwritten tickets.Preparing for Business Sale and Transparency (00:25:34) Importance of accurate records and transparency for business valuation and sale.Choosing the Right Shop Management System (00:26:16) Advice on selecting systems with robust reporting and avoiding unnecessary add-ons.How to Connect with Chris Cotton (00:26:39) Chris shares his contact information and resources for further learning.Podcast Wrap-Up and Additional Resources (00:27:07) Host promotes Chris’s podcast series and the Automotive Repair Podcast Network app.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing Book Email Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)The Weekly Blitz PodcastAutoFix Auto Shop CoachingTechMetricAutoOpsThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Jan 21, 2026 • 19min

How to Work the Chamber of Commerce [E188]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledYou joined the Chamber of Commerce - great move. But now what? This episode pulls back the curtain on why just paying your dues and slapping a sticker on your window doesn’t cut it. The chamber isn’t a vending machine where you drop in money and business pops out, it’s a networking powerhouse if you actually use it.We dig into how to evaluate your local chamber, the right way to get involved, and how to turn those meet-and-greets into actual business growth. From business before hours and luncheons to sponsorships and ribbon cuttings, you’ll walk away with a game plan that puts you in the driver’s seat. And hey, it doesn’t have to be you showing up every time, there are smart ways to delegate this, too.So if you’ve ever said “the chamber doesn’t work,” you might want to give this one a listen. You might just find the real problem isn’t the chamber, it’s how you’re (not) using it.Tune in and learn how to work the chamber to work for you.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Acknowledgements(00:00:09) Hosts introduce the episode, topic, and thank sponsors Shop Boss and App Fueled.Chamber of Commerce Misconceptions(00:01:04) Discuss the misconception that joining the Chamber automatically brings business; importance of active participation.Evaluating Your Local Chamber(00:02:22) How to research and assess your local Chamber’s value via social media, website, and events.Chamber Events and Opportunities(00:04:21) Overview of typical Chamber events, luncheons, fundraisers, and sponsorship opportunities.Member Directory and Secret Shopping(00:06:25) Using the Chamber’s member directory for SEO and the value of attending events before joining.Delegating Chamber Involvement(00:07:31) Encouragement to delegate Chamber activities to staff, such as service advisors, with possible incentives.Sponsor Messages(00:08:43) Mid-episode sponsor messages for Shop Boss and App Fueled.Getting Involved in Committees(00:10:43) Benefits of joining Chamber committees and finding one that aligns with your interests.Chamber Involvement as Business Growth(00:12:05) Chamber and networking as cost-effective growth strategies, especially for new businesses.Delegation and Networking Evolution(00:13:51) How Chamber involvement evolves as your business grows and the importance of building connections.Community Initiatives and Chamber Support(00:14:10) Examples of leveraging the Chamber for community projects and the resulting benefits.Hosting Events and Ribbon Cuttings(00:15:30) Using your shop to host Chamber events and the value of ribbon cuttings for publicity.Sponsorship and Brand Awareness(00:16:43) Creative sponsorship opportunities at Chamber events to boost brand visibility.Conclusion and Podcast Network Promotion(00:17:55) Episode wrap-up, encouragement to download the network app, and final sponsor thanks.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)BNIAuto Repair Podcast Network AppThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Jan 14, 2026 • 27min

How to Choose the Right BNI Group [E187]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledLet’s be honest: BNI isn’t new to you. If you’ve been around this podcast, you’ve heard us talk about Business Networking International before. But this time, we’re taking a deeper dive into something super practical: how to actually choose the right BNI group for your shop. Because let’s be real, not all chapters are created equal. In this episode, Kim and I walk you through the exact steps we’ve taken to find the best-fit groups, what red flags to look for, and how to show up ready to make a killer first impression. Whether you’re a natural introvert like me or you’re already networking like crazy, there’s a group out there for you, and we’ll help you find it.Don’t miss this one—especially if you're ready to grow your business through real relationships and legitimate referrals.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsors (00:00:00) Podcast introduction, hosts, and sponsor messages for Shop Boss and App Fueled.What is BNI? (00:01:20) Explanation of BNI, its structure, exclusivity, and benefits for business networking.Personal Experiences with BNI (00:02:31) Hosts share how BNI helped their businesses and personal growth, especially in public speaking.BNI’s Structure and Meeting Format (00:03:44) Description of BNI’s structured meetings, weekly agenda, and the value of regular participation.Tracking BNI’s Impact (00:06:39) How the hosts tracked BNI as a marketing source and the variety of chapters in different regions.Finding and Choosing a BNI Group (00:08:29) Step-by-step advice on finding local BNI chapters and evaluating group membership.Understanding Networking Spheres (00:09:56) Explanation of networking spheres and the importance of complementary businesses in BNI groups.Starting a New Chapter (00:10:50) Advice on starting a new BNI chapter if your area is underserved.Evaluating Group Culture and Fit (00:13:03) How to assess group meeting times, culture, and whether the group’s vibe matches your needs.Visiting and Assessing Groups (00:14:27) Tips for visiting groups, gauging friendliness, and looking for active, growing chapters.Referrals vs. Leads in BNI (00:15:40) Clarifying the difference between warm referrals and cold leads in BNI.Attendance and Participation Expectations (00:16:17) Importance of consistent attendance, sending substitutes, and treating BNI as a sales meeting.Preparing to Visit a BNI Group (00:17:40) Best practices for contacting the group, arriving early, and networking effectively.Making a Good First Impression (00:19:13) Bring business cards, research members, and tips for effective networking and presentations.Membership Application Process (00:20:23) Overview of the application, vetting, and selection process for joining a BNI group.Choosing the Right Group for You (00:21:14) Encouragement to visit multiple groups and focus on contact spheres and giving referrals.Managing Expectations and Building Relationships (00:22:22) Advice on patience, building trust, and the importance of giving before receiving in BNI.Getting Involved and Leadership (00:23:28) Encouragement to participate in leadership and help shape group culture.What to Do if Your Seat is Taken (00:24:28) Strategies for staying engaged, waiting for openings, or starting a new group.Closing Remarks and Podcast Network Info (00:25:45) Episode wrap-up, network app promotion, and final sponsor acknowledgments.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing Book Email Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)BNIEpisode 124: BNI and Auto Repair Go Hand in Hand with Steve HandBuy Back Your Time by Dan MartellThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Jan 7, 2026 • 33min

Our Favorite Episodes of 2025 [E186]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledWant a shortcut to the best episodes from 2025 that’ll breathe new life into your mindset, your marketing, and your mission as a shop owner? This one’s a must-listen. Kim and Brian sat down, actually face-to-face for once, to unpack the ten episodes from last year that left a lasting impact. Whether it’s building superfans, preparing your shop for anything life throws your way, or rekindling that fire that got you into this industry in the first place, we’ve got you covered. Grab a notebook and dive into this recap, it’s more than a look back; it’s your launchpad into 2026.👉 Go listen and pick the episodes that speak to where you are right now.Show Notes with TimestampsHow To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Profit FirstBuy Back Your TimeHow To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Dec 31, 2025 • 16min

The Fast Track: How Paying for Speed Changes Everything [E185]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledStanding in line for hours at Disney might not sound like it has anything to do with running an auto repair shop but Brian Walker draws a straight line between the two. In this episode, he shares how paying to fast track your experiences, whether it’s in business, life, or even theme parks, can be the smartest investment you make. With real talk from his own business journey and the hard lessons he learned over the years, Brian lays out how mentorship, coaching, and strategic outsourcing can shave years off your learning curve and put you on the express track to success.If you’re tired of figuring everything out the hard way, this one’s for you.Hit play and let’s talk about skipping the line in business and in life.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Thanks (00:00:09) Brian introduces the episode, thanks sponsors, and sets up the topic of "fast tracking" in life.Disney Line Story & The Illusion of Shortcuts (00:01:10) Brian shares his pastor's story about long Disney lines and the reality behind seemingly short waits.Brian’s Disney VIP Experience (00:03:19) Brian describes his own Disney VIP experience, using it as an analogy for fast tracking success.The Value of Paying for Mentorship and Coaching (00:04:37) Brian discusses how paying for expert guidance accelerates learning and business growth.Learning the Hard Way vs. Fast Tracking (00:05:46) Brian reflects on his agency’s slow progress before joining specialized coaching programs.Realizing the Benefits of Coaching Programs (00:06:46) Brian realizes he could have saved years by joining a coaching program earlier.Sponsor Messages (00:07:30) Sponsor ads for Shop Boss and App Fueled, highlighting their business solutions.Condensing Years of Learning into a Day (00:09:05) Brian explains how coaching programs now teach in a day what took him years to learn.Paying for Services to Buy Back Time (00:10:12) Brian encourages business owners to delegate tasks to professionals to save time and focus on strengths.Challenging the “Do It Yourself” Mentality (00:11:17) Brian questions the belief that you should never pay for something you can do yourself.The Value of Buying Back Your Time (00:12:34) Brian advocates for paying others to free up time for more valuable or enjoyable activities.Encouragement to Invest in Fast Tracking (00:13:52) Brian urges listeners to invest in mentorship or services to accelerate progress and stay in their zone of genius.Final Thoughts and Disney Analogy (00:14:58) Brian wraps up, encouraging listeners to pay for better experiences in life, using Disney VIP as an example.Outro and Podcast App Promotion (00:15:48) Outro with information about the podcast network and app, and a thank you to listeners and sponsors.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Profit FirstBuy Back Your TimeHow To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Dec 24, 2025 • 24min

How ASCCA Protected Shops’ Ability to Track Google Ads—An Insider Update with Dave Kusa [E184]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledCalifornia auto repair shop owners, there’s a new regulation that almost flew under the radar, and if you're doing any kind of digital advertising, you’ll want to hit play on this one.In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with Dave Kusa, president of ASCCA, to break down recent changes from the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) that affect how you advertise your shop, especially when it comes to your phone number and license info. Spoiler: that tracking number you’ve been using to measure ad performance? It’s not necessarily a problem... but there are some key things you need to know to stay compliant and avoid issues down the line.They also talk about how this regulation came about, what ASCCA did to advocate for shop owners, and what to expect moving forward. Plus, if you’ve ever wondered why joining an association like ASCCA really matters, this is a perfect example of how that involvement pays off.If you're marketing a shop in California, or just want to stay ahead of the curve, this is one you can’t afford to miss. Listen now and keep your shop out of trouble.Show Notes with TimestampsPodcast Network Introduction (00:00:00) Brief announcement of the Automotive Repair Podcast Network.Episode Introduction & Sponsors (00:00:10) Host Brian Walker introduces the episode, guest Dave Kusa, and thanks sponsors Shop Boss and App Fueled.Guest Introduction & ASCCA Overview (00:01:01) Dave Kusa introduces himself, his shop, and his role as ASCCA president and Government Affairs Committee chair.ASCCA’s Role in Regulatory Issues (00:02:18) Discussion of ASCCA’s involvement with the BAR advisory group and regulatory processes.Background on New BAR Advertising Rules (00:03:41) Explanation of how the new BAR advertising rules, especially phone number requirements, came to ASCCA’s attention.Origin of Mobile Auto Repair Regulations (00:04:36) Details on how mobile repair regulations led to broader advertising requirements for all shops.Tracking Numbers & Industry Response (00:06:23) Concerns about tracking numbers, ASCCA’s advocacy, and BAR’s clarification on acceptable phone number practices.Current Compliance Recommendations (00:08:06) Advice on displaying registered phone numbers and ARD license on websites and digital marketing.Unresolved Issues & Awaiting Written Guidance (00:09:00) Pending clarity on Google My Business, Facebook, and the need for written BAR guidance.Best Practices & Consumer Protection (00:09:49) Benefits of displaying ARD numbers for legitimacy and consumer verification.Sponsor Messages (00:10:11) Promotional messages for Shop Boss and App Fueled.BAR’s Enforcement Approach & Dynamic Number Insertion (00:12:03) Discussion of BAR’s grace period, enforcement, and allowance for dynamic number insertion on websites.Multi-location Shops & Digital Marketing Requirements (00:13:50) Clarification on advertising requirements for shops with multiple locations.Timeline for Finalized BAR Rules (00:14:31) Expected timing and process for BAR to issue finalized, codified advertising regulations.Other BAR Regulations Related to Advertising (00:16:08) Overview of other BAR regulations, including new storage rules, mostly affecting collision shops.Legislative Process & Advocacy (00:17:14) Explanation of California’s legislative process and the importance of advocacy through ASCCA.Benefits of Association Membership (00:18:01) Advantages of joining ASCCA, including legislative representation, networking, and support.How to Join ASCCA (00:21:58) Steps for joining ASCCA, local chapter involvement, and organizational structure.Episode Wrap-up & Contact Information (00:23:24) Closing remarks, app download info, sponsor thanks, and encouragement to listen to future episodes.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)ASCCA WebsiteAuto Repair Marketing PodcastBureau of Automotive Repair (BAR)Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Dec 17, 2025 • 52min

Preparing for the Unexpected with Darrin and Ginger Barney [E183]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledMost shop owners avoid tough conversations until it’s too late. But what happens when life throws you something completely unexpected, like the sudden loss of a loved one or a health scare that takes you out of your business?In this powerful, heartfelt conversation between Darrin and Ginger Barney (Elite), and Brian and Kim Walker (Shop Marketing Pros), these industry leaders open up about the real-life wake-up calls that forced them to prepare for the unthinkable. From losing parents to near-miss tragedies, they share the emotional and logistical side of what happens when you're not ready, personally or professionally.They talk about wills, SOPs, key person insurance, and yes, those “if I die” videos nobody wants to think about but everyone needs. More importantly, they cover what it means to love your team, your clients, and your family enough to take action before the worst happens.This isn’t about fear. It’s about leadership. It’s about responsibility. And it’s about love.🎧 Don’t miss this one. Listen in and take that first step toward securing your legacy, and your shop’s future.Show Notes with TimestampsPodcast Introduction (00:00:00) Brief intro to the podcast network and episode topic: business continuity planning for auto repair shops.Sponsor Acknowledgments (00:01:02) Thanking sponsors and encouraging listeners to take action on the episode’s advice.Guest Introductions (00:01:49) Darrin and Ginger Barney, Brian and Kim Walker introduce themselves and their backgrounds.Personal Loss Experiences (00:04:59) Ginger and Kim share recent experiences with the loss of their mothers and the importance of preparation.Password and Account Management (00:09:50) Discussing the challenges of managing digital accounts and passwords after a loved one passes.Business Continuity for Owners (00:13:06) Brian emphasizes the need for business continuity plans to protect employees and clients if owners are incapacitated.Real-Life Case Studies (00:14:05) Stories of business owners who passed away or became incapacitated without proper plans in place.The Importance of Continuation Plans (00:15:03) Discussing the impact of sudden absence and the need for operational continuity in businesses.Temporary vs. Permanent Absence (00:17:23) Examples of both temporary and permanent owner absences and the need for flexible planning.Bus Books and SOPs (00:18:45) Introduction to “bus books” and standard operating procedures as tools for continuity.Proactive Planning and Keeping Plans Updated (00:19:53) The value of proactive planning, checklists, and regularly updating continuity documents.Elite’s Continuation Plan Program (00:21:10) Elite’s new program to help shop owners build personalized continuation plans.Wills, Trusts, and Legal Preparation (00:22:46) Beyond wills: legal, financial, and operational steps for business and personal continuity.Tax Planning and Estate Management (00:29:27) The importance of tax planning and estate management as businesses grow in value.Key Man Insurance and Buy-Sell Agreements (00:30:47) Explaining key man insurance and buy-sell agreements for business partners.Insurance for Family and Employees (00:32:41) Personal insurance stories and planning for the loss or incapacity of family members or key employees.Building a Self-Sustaining Business (00:34:21) The goal of building a business that can thrive without daily owner involvement.EOS/Traction and Business Systems (00:35:29) How EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) helps create clarity and continuity in business operations.Call to Action: Start Planning Now (00:36:53) Encouragement for listeners to take immediate steps toward continuity planning.Elite’s Workshop and Resources (00:38:10) Announcement of Elite’s upcoming workshop and free checklist for continuity planning.Family Communication and Avoiding Conflict (00:39:21) The importance of discussing inheritance and personal items to prevent family disputes.Health and Longevity for Owners and Employees (00:41:33) Emphasizing personal health and wellness as part of business continuity.Supporting Employee Health (00:48:23) Encouraging owners to support employees’ health and well-being for business stability.Overcoming Discomfort and Taking Action (00:49:20) Advice to push through discomfort and start with small steps in planning.Final Thoughts and Resources (00:50:10) Closing remarks, offers for resources, and encouragement to reach out for help.Podcast Outro and App Promotion (00:50:56) Thanking listeners, promoting the podcast app, and inviting questions for future episodes.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)TractionRocket FuelElite WorldwideThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you. AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Dec 10, 2025 • 43min

Takeaways From The Marketing AI Conference with Hallie Wasinger [E182]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledWhat if your best strategic thinking partner wasn’t on your payroll, but sitting right in your pocket?In this episode of The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast, Brian Walker sits down with Hallie Wasinger to unpack what she learned at the MAICON (Marketing AI Conference). But don’t let the name fool you, this conversation goes way beyond marketing. Hallie breaks down how AI is reshaping not just how we create content, but how we think, from operations to service efficiency to scaling personalized experiences for clients.This one’s packed with golden nuggets: the power of high-performance prompting, using ChatGPT as a strategic thinking partner, the CRIT method to get better AI outputs, and why voice AI is the underrated tool no one’s talking about yet (spoiler: your robot can now talk back). Oh, and yes, AI can help you be a better Bible scholar or diagnose complex repair issues. Wild, right?You’ll also hear how Shop Marketing Pros is already implementing layered AI tools to deliver smarter, more personalized content at scale, without sacrificing the human touch that makes their work special.This episode is a must-listen for any shop owner who wants to stay ahead of the curve, avoid getting left behind, and start using AI the right way, as a tool, not a replacement.Listen now to hear why it’s time to start talking to your robot and how it can help you fill those bays.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Acknowledgments (00:00:10) Brian introduces the episode, guest Hallie Wasinger, and thanks sponsors.Overview of the Marketing AI Conference (MACON) (00:01:15) Hallie describes the MACON event, its scale, and the industries represented.AI in Marketing and Business Operations (00:02:12) Discussion on AI’s broad impact, not just in marketing but across industries.AI Resources and Influencers (00:02:36) Brian recommends the Artificial Intelligence Show podcast and Paul Roetzer.First Impressions and High-Performance Prompting (00:03:20) Hallie shares her initial conference experience and the importance of effective AI prompting.Environmental Impact of AI and Prompting Efficiency (00:04:59) Brian discusses AI’s environmental costs and how better prompting reduces resource use.Operational Efficiency and Prompt Libraries (00:07:20) Hallie explains creating, saving, and sharing high-performance prompts for team efficiency.Voice AI as a Strategic Thinking Partner (00:10:52) Hallie introduces using voice AI and ChatGPT as a brainstorming and problem-solving partner.Beyond Search: AI for Strategic and Personal Use (00:13:49) Brian and Hallie discuss using AI for deep thinking, business, and personal growth.Layering AI Tools and Choosing the Right LLM (00:19:05) Hallie explains testing and layering multiple AI tools for different business needs.The CRIT Framework for Strategic Prompting (00:21:54) Hallie introduces the CRIT (Context, Role, Interview, Task) method for better AI outputs.Human-First Approach and AI Limitations (00:26:03) Discussion on keeping humans central, using AI for efficiency, and current AI limitations.AI’s Impact on Client Services and Personalization (00:30:07) Hallie details how AI improves efficiency and output quality while maintaining personalized client service.Layering AI for Automation and Research (00:32:56) Examples of using AI for call listening, Google Ads auditing, and advanced SEO research.Long-Term Vision: Efficiency, Scale, and Team Impact (00:35:33) Hallie shares the future outlook for AI in their agency, including efficiency and scaling services.AI, Employment, and the Future of Work (00:37:14) Brian discusses AI’s effect on hiring, universal basic income, and the necessity of AI adoption.Value of AI Conferences for All Industries (00:40:18) Hallie emphasizes the universal value of AI conferences, even for auto repair shop owners.Final Thoughts and Podcast Wrap-Up (00:41:36) Closing remarks, encouragement to use AI, and information about the podcast network app.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing BookEmail Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)The Artificial Intelligence ShowBuy Back Your Time by Dan MartellAutomotive Repair Podcast NetworkThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you. AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Dec 3, 2025 • 26min

From Invisible to Unmissable: How McCart’s Auto Center Stands Out with Kelly McCart [E181]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledA bland building that blended in… turned bold brand that brought in business. That’s the real story behind this episode featuring Kelly McCart from McCart’s Auto Center. If you’ve ever wondered whether the look and feel of your shop actually matters, you’ll want to hear how a full-on rebrand, from paint to logo to online presence,  transformed Kelly’s shop from invisible to impossible to miss.We talk about why aesthetics are marketing, how design can literally drive in new clients, and what it means when someone walks in just to say, “Wow, this looks amazing.” Kelly breaks down the “why” and “how” behind his shop’s renovation, how he pulled it off with DIY design (yes, scissors and Elmer’s glue were involved), and why rethinking your image might be the smartest move you make this year.He’ll also share how this shift doubled his staff, improved the quality of clients, and continues to make his business stand out, both to customers and future employees.This episode isn’t just about fresh paint. It’s about positioning. It’s about pride. And it’s about the kind of shop that people recognize, remember, and respect.Listen now and get inspired to rethink how your shop shows up.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Acknowledgment (00:00:00) Brian introduces the podcast, guest Kelly McCart, and thanks sponsors.Background: The Nondescript Shop (00:01:09) Discussion of McCarty’s Auto Center blending in and being overlooked by passersby.Realization and Decision to Renovate (00:02:23) Kelly describes the moment she decided a change was needed and the process leading up to it.Design Process and Early Attempts (00:03:02) Kelly explains her design journey, including failed ideas and the involvement of her graphic artist nephew.Logo Creation and Selection (00:06:11) The story behind the new logo, its design process, and how it was chosen.Impact of the Makeover on Visibility (00:07:51) How the new look made the shop stand out and attracted attention from the community.Business Impact and Clientele Changes (00:08:16) The effect of the renovation on customer buzz, quality of clients, and local recognition.Interior Renovation and Staff Growth (00:09:31) Details about the interior revamp and the subsequent doubling of staff.Name Change and Brand Consolidation (00:12:21) Merging two business names, legal steps, and unifying the brand and online presence.Timing: Remodel and the Onset of COVID-19 (00:14:31) The remodel’s completion just before the pandemic and initial concerns about the timing.Business Resilience During COVID-19 (00:15:27) How the shop thrived during the pandemic despite initial fears.Comprehensive Rebrand: Lessons and Surprises (00:17:35) Kelly reflects on the thoroughness of the rebrand and whether anything unexpected arose.Results and Return on Investment (00:18:35) Immediate positive results from the rebrand and personal satisfaction.Staff Response and Branded Merchandise (00:19:10) Staff enthusiasm for the new brand, uniforms, and promotional items.Recruitment and Professional Image (00:19:54) How the makeover improved recruitment and elevated the shop’s professionalism.Advice and Reflections on the Process (00:20:29) Kelly’s advice for others considering a similar project and what she might have done differently.Cost Recovery Timeline (00:21:22) Estimated time to recoup renovation costs: 6 to 8 months.Industry Image and Future Direction (00:22:33) How shop aesthetics are changing public perception of the auto repair industry.Closing Remarks and Podcast Promotion (00:23:38) Final thoughts, gratitude, and information about where to find episode resources and the podcast app.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing Book Email Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Article about McCart’s Auto Center on Ratchet & Wrench Website Photos of the Shop TransformationAuto Repair Podcast Network AppThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.  AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
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Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 5min

Big, Beautiful, Impactful Email! [E180]

Thanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledKim Walker’s flying solo on this one, and she’s got a fire-in-her-belly message for every shop owner still sleeping on email marketing. This isn’t your typical “email tips” episode, it’s a storytelling breakdown of one jaw-dropping, beautifully built email from Mission Mercantile that had Kim hooked, clicking, and even podcasting about it.She breaks down what made this email a masterclass in branding: from a killer subject line (“Not Cheap… But Worth Every Penny”) to irresistible storytelling, handcrafted visuals, call-to-actions in all the right places, and brand language that oozes trust and legacy.If you’ve let your email marketing fall to the wayside, this episode is your wake-up call. Kim lays out why email isn’t dead, it’s just being underused. She challenges shop owners to rethink the way they write emails, stay top-of-mind with customers, and deliver real value (not just deals).Don’t miss this breakdown. You’ll walk away inspired to write emails your customers actually want to open.Show Notes with TimestampsIntroduction and Sponsor Shoutouts (00:00:10) Kim introduces herself, mentions Brian's absence, and gives sponsor shoutouts.Email Marketing Comeback & Shop Plans (00:01:19) Kim discusses the resurgence of email marketing in auto repair shops' plans for 2026.Discovery of Mission Mercantile (00:02:21) Kim shares how she found Mission Mercantile while searching for a high-quality leather backpack.Purchase Experience & Customer Service (00:05:34) Kim describes her purchase, a product issue, and Mission Mercantile’s excellent customer service.The Impactful Email Arrives (00:06:44) Kim details receiving the November 6th email, its subject line, and her immediate reaction.Email Storytelling & Visuals (00:07:56) Kim analyzes the email’s storytelling, visuals, and how it addresses customer needs.Call to Action & Product Details (00:10:05) Kim explains the email’s calls to action, product quality descriptions, and lifetime guarantee.Brand Voice & Mythical Customer Care (00:11:29) Kim highlights the brand’s unique voice, “mythical customer care,” and how it resonates with her.Sponsor Messages (00:12:35) Sponsor messages for Shop Boss and App Fueled are presented.Testimonials & Social Proof (00:14:36) Kim discusses the use of customer testimonials and how they reinforce the email’s message.Black Friday Teaser & List Segmentation (00:16:08) Kim describes the email’s Black Friday promotion and how it segments the audience.Differentiators & American Made Focus (00:17:19) Kim notes the email’s emphasis on differentiators, including being American made and customer care.Personal Impact & Email Retention (00:18:33) Kim shares how the email influenced her to stay subscribed and even consider future purchases.Advice for Shop Owners on Email Marketing (00:19:41) Kim gives actionable advice to shop owners about effective email marketing strategies.Closing Thoughts & Contact Info (00:21:58) Kim wraps up, offers to share the email, invites topic suggestions, and promotes the Facebook group.Outro and Network Promotion (00:23:09) Kim and the network promote other shows and the podcast app, closing the episode.How To Get In TouchJoin The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on FacebookMeet The ProsFollow SMP on FacebookFollow SMP on InstagramGet The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing Book Email Us Podcast Questions or Topics Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)Mission MerchantileThanks to our Partners, Shop Boss and AppFueledThis episode is sponsored by Shop Boss. You know, other shop management software makes you work, but Shop Boss works for you.  AppFueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”The Automotive Repair Podcast Network: https://automotiverepairpodcastnetwork.com/Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/

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