The Next Aid Station

In this episode, we dive into Christian Allen’s viral Nike photoshoot and ACG trail sponsorship, his training blocks in Chamonix that included over 100 miles and 23,000 feet of vert, and a breakdown of Cam Hanes’ Broken film and the Cocadona 250. We recap the action from UTMB and OCC, including Jim Walmsley’s frustrations with aid stations, Adam Peterman’s inspiring comeback, and Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles, before shifting to the global stage with the rise of Kenyan and Chinese ultrarunners and what it means for the future of the sport. We also look ahead with a Western States 2025 preview featuring Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks, Caleb, and Jim, plus a Wasatch 100 preview and the drama around Zach Garner’s volunteer hours controversy. The episode closes on a lighter note with the funniest listener shoutouts, stories of ping pong battles with Chinese executives, and even a wild Lamborghini dinner invite.Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: mullets, wigs & Christian’s legendary hair00:24 – Welcome back + intros with Christian Allen02:00 – Nike sponsorship story & viral photoshoot 📸05:30 – Nike Trail merges with ACG: what it means for athletes06:45 – Training in Chamonix: 100 miles, 23,000 ft vert 🏔️08:15 – Wasatch 100 course signs & trail marking chaos12:00 – Cam Hanes’ Broken film & Coca-Dona 250 talk 🎥13:35 – Three-day fasting + hallucinations while racing?!14:30 – Christian’s USA gear giveaway + visor comeback 🧢16:20 – Social media & sponsorship pressures for runners18:00 – Nike’s ACG strategy explained: future of trail gear22:00 – Gear talk: radical airflow shirt & prototypes 👕25:00 – Sydney Marathon recap & Kipchoge running 2:08 at age 4028:00 – Christian’s marathon goals: CIM, Boston & chasing 2:0729:35 – Connor Mance’s American record & shoe tech debates34:00 – BYU, Weber State & coaching legends 🏃‍♂️43:10 – UTMB/CCC review: Christian’s racing + nausea struggles46:00 – Fueling failures, nausea & the Zofran experiment47:55 – Jim Walmsley’s critical UTMB interview 🎤50:00 – Aid station chaos at OCC & live race drama53:15 – Adam Peterman’s comeback + rising stars54:30 – Canadian Sam Hendry’s breakout performance 🇨🇦56:00 – Christian’s plans for sub-4 50K & Golden Trail Finals57:15 – UTMB lottery, stones system & booking the chalet 🏔️01:00:00 – UTMB dream crew planning (and French language struggles)01:01:30 – Western States preview: Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks & Drew Holmen01:05:00 – Caleb, Jim & Americans lining up for Western 202501:07:15 – Women’s UTMB: epic finish + tactical battles01:09:00 – Kenyan & Chinese runners storming the scene 🌍01:15:00 – French miss the podium + global shift in ultrarunning01:16:00 – Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles: injury or weather?01:20:00 – Debate: Triple Crown vs winning UTMB multiple times01:25:00 – VK races, Mount Marathon & hardest 5K in the world01:28:00 – Top storylines from UTMB week (panel’s podium picks)01:33:00 – Nike vs Nation: sponsorship vs country pride 🇺🇸👟01:46:00 – Doping, money & the future of the sport 💰01:47:00 – Wasatch 100 preview + Zach Garner volunteer hours drama01:52:00 – Top men’s & women’s contenders for Wasatch02:04:00 – Listener shoutouts & Strava comments ❤️02:08:00 – Chinese business meeting → ping pong & Lamborghini invite 🏓🚗02:09:50 – Wrap-up & thanks to Christian AllenThis episode mixes trail running analysis, athlete insights, and pure podcast chaos.👉 Don’t miss weekly episodes — hit SUBSCRIBE on YouTube🎧 Listen on Spotify 👥 Share this with your trail crew!

🔥 The ultimate UTMB 2025 preview + trail running chaos! 🔥In this jam-packed episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick break down their bold UTMB 2025 predictions, asking whether Hayden Hawks or any American can finally topple the French. They share their Fantasy Free Trail top-10 picks for both the men’s and women’s races, unpack the wild story of the $3.7M Miami Heat jersey theft, and pitch a high-stakes runner vs. mountain biker 50-mile showdown. The conversation also dives into Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary, with reflections on why DNFs matter, and explores Tom Evans’ perspective on fatherhood vs. athletic greatness. Beyond the racing world, they debate whether shorter trail races could one day surpass 100-milers in popularity, before closing with listener shoutouts, hilarious fan messages, and a look ahead to exciting upcoming guests.Timestamps:00:00 – Will the French sweep the UTMB podium? 🇫🇷00:24 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station 🎙️01:12 – UTMB vs Western States: which is bigger?03:20 – The time zone problem for American fans ⏰04:05 – Fantasy Free Trail picks revealed05:46 – Inside jokes & the “six-seven” chant 😂07:07 – Miami Heat security guard scandal: $3.7M jersey theft 🏀09:26 – LeBron’s stolen Finals jersey sold for $100K12:30 – Prison time for a cop turned thief 🚔14:12 – Most valuable jerseys in sports history15:29 – Listener DM: “You guys are God’s silliest gooses” 🪿18:00 – Convincing your spouse to let you race (the eternal struggle)20:39 – Hobby wars: golf guy vs ultra guy vs cyclist guy23:12 – Jake challenged to finally run DC Peaks 50 🏔️24:03 – Runner vs mountain biker showdown idea 🚴‍♂️🏃‍♂️29:09 – Stakes: a Bear 100 entry on the line 🐻30:36 – Plans to livestream the man vs bike race33:57 – Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary review 🎥35:27 – Why sharing DNFs matters in ultrarunning38:00 – Tom Evans: “I’d rather be the best dad than the best athlete” 👨‍👧40:02 – Can you be both a world-class runner and a great parent?45:22 – Will anything ever challenge UTMB’s dominance?48:21 – Could shorter trail races surpass ultras in popularity?50:57 – UTMB’s tradition vs the Super Bowl model 🏟️56:01 – Plans for The Next Aid Station to go global 🌍58:09 – UTMB women’s top-10 picks (Courtney, Katie, Abby & more)01:07:08 – Men’s picks: Americans vs French showdown01:20:00 – Can Hayden Hawks deliver America a UTMB win? 🇺🇸01:28:05 – French dominance and the “all-French podium” nightmare01:39:00 – Ping pong showdown with a Chinese businessman 🏓01:44:23 – Hardrock’s lottery system explained01:47:04 – Odds of a French-free podium at UTMB01:52:09 – Trail running in Japan? Mount Fuji dreams 🇯🇵01:52:29 – Listener comments & community shoutouts ❤️01:56:16 – Mediocre Amateur guest announcement01:59:51 – Final fan messages + hilarious age banter02:00:48 – Next week: Christian Allen live in the studio 🎉👉 If you love trail running, ultras, or just good storytelling, this is the episode for you.

🔥 Trail running gets wild in this episode of The Next Aid Station! 🔥From White Pine 50 race stories to the UTMB preview and even a Krispy Kreme–fueled 50 miler, Jake, Mick, and special guest Zach (@trailswithzach) deliver a mix of comedy, controversy, and real talk about ultrarunning.Timestamps:00:00 – Race drama recap & “offended race directors”00:45 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station + introducing Zach (@trailswithzach)01:15 – White Pine 50 finish line showdown (with a 72-year-old legend)02:40 – Mick “wins” the women’s 60–69 division 😂03:30 – Why “67” is cooler than “69” for Gen Z05:20 – Kings Peak in 6 hours & viral YouTube video06:30 – FaceTiming from the summit & trail “tandem dump” bonding 🤝07:55 – Zach’s first ultra (DC Peaks 50) & sub-9hr goals09:20 – Rice Krispies + applesauce fueling strategy at Bear 10011:00 – White Pine 50 recap: Sarah Humble wins overall!13:00 – “Guy on the Left” turns into a race celebrity14:20 – Course marking challenges & cows eating flags 🐄15:45 – Confessions: cutting the course & whistleblower jokes18:00 – Trekking pole fail: ditching them before the big climb20:30 – Vermont Long Trail FKT: 272 miles in 3.5 days22:00 – Timpanogos FKT debate (Zach vs. Carl Meltzer)24:00 – Christian Allen’s Nike pic & running gossip25:45 – Viral moment: college runner’s “wardrobe malfunction” 😳28:00 – More Long Trail suffering & mental breakdowns30:00 – Zach’s video style & recognition on the trails31:00 – New format: “Chef Zach” + grasshopper protein bars 🦗34:00 – Working with Chela & YouTube growth strategy36:00 – Censorship in China: losing 30M subscribers overnight38:30 – Heading to Canada with Mediocre Amateur40:30 – Running 50 miles on Krispy Kreme donuts 🍩43:30 – Chela insoles & Anthony Costales comeback45:00 – Leadville recap: David Roche’s course record49:00 – Why ultras need better livestreaming (and why Leadville missed out)52:30 – Destination Trails controversy & being “shunned”58:00 – Free speech, blocking, & race politics in ultrarunning01:03:30 – Reflecting on Tahoe 200 & race director conflicts01:05:30 – Camille Herron’s hilarious basketball videos01:07:15 – UTMB preview: American contenders vs Europeans01:10:30 – Francesco Puppi, Eli Hemming & podium picks01:16:00 – Jim Walmsley’s emotional UTMB breakthrough ❤️01:17:30 – Dreaming of racing UTMB someday01:20:00 – Future of ultra livestreaming: heart rate, glucose, wearables01:25:00 – Strava dark mode & hiding workouts01:27:00 – Funniest listener comments & fan moments01:32:00 – Wrapping up with laughs & gratitudeThis episode is packed with laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and big-picture insights into the sport we love.👉 If you’re into trail running, ultras, or just good banter, hit SUBSCRIBE for more!

🏆 Fresh off a Bigfoot 200 win, Killian Korth joins us in-studio for a deep dive into his race strategy, aid station efficiency, and how he plans to sweep the Triple Crown with a Moab 240 victory.We also debate Leadville predictions (Cam Hanes vs. Truett Haines), discuss the David Roche Western States DNF, and talk training for Moab’s long flat sections.📌 Subscribe for more ultrarunning stories, elite insights, and race strategy breakdowns.

🎙 From d*ldos on an NBA court, to ugly running visors, to ultramarathon fishing rules — this episode has EVERYTHING.We kick off with visor nostalgia, dive into the bizarre WNBA “dildo-throwing” incident, and then get serious about ultrarunning: White Pine 50 course breakdown, Mammoth 200 predictions, Bigfoot 200 records, and Kenyan domination at Sierre-Zinal.🏃‍♂️ Topics include:White Pine 50 fishing challenge & Bear Tag seriesMammoth 200 elite predictions: Jimmy Elam, Rachel, and moreNBA Top 100 rankings debateLost Bitcoin fortune storyThe Peyton Craig rivalry: bragging rights & free entry on the lineThe Box Muncher Hall of Fame📌 Subscribe now for more ultrarunning stories, race previews, and behind-the-scenes banter.

Jake drops out of the Bigfoot 200. Cody Draper breaks down the Bear 100 lottery change. And one poor runner pukes right before the finish line trying to beat Jake. This episode is chaos—in the best way.🎧 What You’ll Hear in This Episode:We recap Jake's full Speedgoat 50K experience—including pacing strategies, aid station chaos, and a hilarious finish line showdown. Then we call up Cody Draper, race director of the Bear 100, to talk about the new lottery system, veteran perks, and what this means for the future of ultra races. We also talk training, the Happy Gilmore sequel, WNBA backlash, and the importance of munching the box.Whether you’re prepping for your next 100-miler or just love hearing real trail talk, this one hits.

Cam Hanes, an ultrarunning legend and bowhunting aficionado, shares his thrilling adventures and insights in this engaging chat. He recounts the grueling experience of climbing Mount Olympus and his ambitious racing goals, including predictions for the Bigfoot 200. Cam dives into the emotional challenges of ultrarunning, his unconventional prison marathon experience, and the complexities of sponsorship in the running world. With plenty of humor, he also discusses his hunting philosophy and the deep connection he feels to nature.

🎙️ Speedgoat Secrets, Doping Drama & WNBA Pay Controversy 🏃‍♂️💉🔥In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “The Clap” Garrison dive into a wild mix of topics — from Speedgoat 50K training and race changes, to Rachel Entrekin’s epic dominance, to explosive takes on WNBA’s “Pay Us What You Owe Us” protest and the state of doping in endurance sports.They also talk about:Why the Speedgoat 50K remains one of the most iconic mountain racesThe ultra trail U.S. short course team and why this year’s squad is stackedCourtney vs Katie – Why isn’t this showdown happening?The Ruth Chepngetich masking agent scandalTestosterone, cheating, and the blurred lines of performance enhancementThe surprising truth behind course records falling weeklyRachel Entrekin’s insane win streak (and how she still has no sponsor?!)💥 If you’re into ultra running, sports culture, and a little healthy controversy, this one’s a must-listen.

What happens when the trail running world’s most inclusive ideals meet its most exclusive races? In this episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick dive into major topics shaking the ultra scene — from whether Jake should hire his first-ever running coach, to the controversial question of whether Ryan Montgomery should receive the M7 bib at Western States as a non-binary runner.🔥 Topics we cover:Why hiring a running coach might finally make sense for JakeThe massive gap between “real” ultra coaches and downloaded schedulesA heated debate on gender categories in races like Western StatesShould non-binary runners get male bibs in the top 10?A runner’s tragic death at Hardrock: how should races respond?How brand influence might affect who gets picked to race HardrockHardrock 100’s “inclusivity” claims vs. their limited entry numbersThis one is emotional, honest, and packed with controversial but critical discussions for the future of ultrarunning.✅ Subscribe for more real convos about trail running📲 DM us your thoughts or guest suggestions!

🎧 Ultra runners, trail freaks, and endurance junkies — this one’s packed.What happens when the biggest names in trail and ultrarunning come together for Hardrock 100? We’re diving into billionaire mindsets, Hardrock predictions, Walmsley’s no-pacer hot take, and why Katie Schide might podium overall.Jake and MC are back in studio with:🏔️ Hot takes on Western States, UTMB, Bigfoot 200, and Francois’ new FKT💸 Wild billionaire math with Jerry Buss, Zuckerberg, and Bezos🔥 Walmsley’s controversial claim: “Elites shouldn’t use pacers”👟 Bigfoot 200 prep and how drop bag strategy can change the game🚨 Hardrock preview: Can Katie win it all? Will Ludo repeat?Whether you’re a hardcore runner or just love elite performance content, this episode hits hard.