The Next Aid Station

Jake Kilgore
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Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 34min

From Grasshopper Protein Bars to UTMB Predictions 🦗🏔️ with Zach Frisch

🔥 Trail running gets wild in this episode of The Next Aid Station! 🔥From White Pine 50 race stories to the UTMB preview and even a Krispy Kreme–fueled 50 miler, Jake, Mick, and special guest Zach (@trailswithzach) deliver a mix of comedy, controversy, and real talk about ultrarunning.Timestamps:00:00 – Race drama recap & “offended race directors”00:45 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station + introducing Zach (@trailswithzach)01:15 – White Pine 50 finish line showdown (with a 72-year-old legend)02:40 – Mick “wins” the women’s 60–69 division 😂03:30 – Why “67” is cooler than “69” for Gen Z05:20 – Kings Peak in 6 hours & viral YouTube video06:30 – FaceTiming from the summit & trail “tandem dump” bonding 🤝07:55 – Zach’s first ultra (DC Peaks 50) & sub-9hr goals09:20 – Rice Krispies + applesauce fueling strategy at Bear 10011:00 – White Pine 50 recap: Sarah Humble wins overall!13:00 – “Guy on the Left” turns into a race celebrity14:20 – Course marking challenges & cows eating flags 🐄15:45 – Confessions: cutting the course & whistleblower jokes18:00 – Trekking pole fail: ditching them before the big climb20:30 – Vermont Long Trail FKT: 272 miles in 3.5 days22:00 – Timpanogos FKT debate (Zach vs. Carl Meltzer)24:00 – Christian Allen’s Nike pic & running gossip25:45 – Viral moment: college runner’s “wardrobe malfunction” 😳28:00 – More Long Trail suffering & mental breakdowns30:00 – Zach’s video style & recognition on the trails31:00 – New format: “Chef Zach” + grasshopper protein bars 🦗34:00 – Working with Chela & YouTube growth strategy36:00 – Censorship in China: losing 30M subscribers overnight38:30 – Heading to Canada with Mediocre Amateur40:30 – Running 50 miles on Krispy Kreme donuts 🍩43:30 – Chela insoles & Anthony Costales comeback45:00 – Leadville recap: David Roche’s course record49:00 – Why ultras need better livestreaming (and why Leadville missed out)52:30 – Destination Trails controversy & being “shunned”58:00 – Free speech, blocking, & race politics in ultrarunning01:03:30 – Reflecting on Tahoe 200 & race director conflicts01:05:30 – Camille Herron’s hilarious basketball videos01:07:15 – UTMB preview: American contenders vs Europeans01:10:30 – Francesco Puppi, Eli Hemming & podium picks01:16:00 – Jim Walmsley’s emotional UTMB breakthrough ❤️01:17:30 – Dreaming of racing UTMB someday01:20:00 – Future of ultra livestreaming: heart rate, glucose, wearables01:25:00 – Strava dark mode & hiding workouts01:27:00 – Funniest listener comments & fan moments01:32:00 – Wrapping up with laughs & gratitudeThis episode is packed with laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and big-picture insights into the sport we love.👉 If you’re into trail running, ultras, or just good banter, hit SUBSCRIBE for more!
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Aug 15, 2025 • 1h 4min

Kilian’s Triple Crown Quest: Moab 240 Training & Bigfoot Recap

🏆 Fresh off a Bigfoot 200 win, Killian Korth joins us in-studio for a deep dive into his race strategy, aid station efficiency, and how he plans to sweep the Triple Crown with a Moab 240 victory.We also debate Leadville predictions (Cam Hanes vs. Truett Haines), discuss the David Roche Western States DNF, and talk training for Moab’s long flat sections.📌 Subscribe for more ultrarunning stories, elite insights, and race strategy breakdowns.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 40min

Visors, WNBA 🍆, and Ultramarathons - Only On The Next Aid Station 🤣

🎙 From d*ldos on an NBA court, to ugly running visors, to ultramarathon fishing rules — this episode has EVERYTHING.We kick off with visor nostalgia, dive into the bizarre WNBA “dildo-throwing” incident, and then get serious about ultrarunning: White Pine 50 course breakdown, Mammoth 200 predictions, Bigfoot 200 records, and Kenyan domination at Sierre-Zinal.🏃‍♂️ Topics include:White Pine 50 fishing challenge & Bear Tag seriesMammoth 200 elite predictions: Jimmy Elam, Rachel, and moreNBA Top 100 rankings debateLost Bitcoin fortune storyThe Peyton Craig rivalry: bragging rights & free entry on the lineThe Box Muncher Hall of Fame📌 Subscribe now for more ultrarunning stories, race previews, and behind-the-scenes banter.
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Aug 4, 2025 • 1h 50min

Why I Dropped Out of Bigfoot 200 & Speedgoat Recap

Jake drops out of the Bigfoot 200. Cody Draper breaks down the Bear 100 lottery change. And one poor runner pukes right before the finish line trying to beat Jake. This episode is chaos—in the best way.🎧 What You’ll Hear in This Episode:We recap Jake's full Speedgoat 50K experience—including pacing strategies, aid station chaos, and a hilarious finish line showdown. Then we call up Cody Draper, race director of the Bear 100, to talk about the new lottery system, veteran perks, and what this means for the future of ultra races. We also talk training, the Happy Gilmore sequel, WNBA backlash, and the importance of munching the box.Whether you’re prepping for your next 100-miler or just love hearing real trail talk, this one hits.
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Jul 28, 2025 • 55min

Inside the Mind of Cameron Hanes: Ultrarunning, Bowhunting & Business

Cam Hanes, an ultrarunning legend and bowhunting aficionado, shares his thrilling adventures and insights in this engaging chat. He recounts the grueling experience of climbing Mount Olympus and his ambitious racing goals, including predictions for the Bigfoot 200. Cam dives into the emotional challenges of ultrarunning, his unconventional prison marathon experience, and the complexities of sponsorship in the running world. With plenty of humor, he also discusses his hunting philosophy and the deep connection he feels to nature.
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Jul 23, 2025 • 1h 49min

Speedgoat Secrets & Doping Scandals - What's REALLY Going On!?

🎙️ Speedgoat Secrets, Doping Drama & WNBA Pay Controversy 🏃‍♂️💉🔥In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “The Clap” Garrison dive into a wild mix of topics — from Speedgoat 50K training and race changes, to Rachel Entrekin’s epic dominance, to explosive takes on WNBA’s “Pay Us What You Owe Us” protest and the state of doping in endurance sports.They also talk about:Why the Speedgoat 50K remains one of the most iconic mountain racesThe ultra trail U.S. short course team and why this year’s squad is stackedCourtney vs Katie – Why isn’t this showdown happening?The Ruth Chepngetich masking agent scandalTestosterone, cheating, and the blurred lines of performance enhancementThe surprising truth behind course records falling weeklyRachel Entrekin’s insane win streak (and how she still has no sponsor?!)💥 If you’re into ultra running, sports culture, and a little healthy controversy, this one’s a must-listen.
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Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 46min

Is Hardrock 100 lying about it’s "inclusivity"?

What happens when the trail running world’s most inclusive ideals meet its most exclusive races? In this episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick dive into major topics shaking the ultra scene — from whether Jake should hire his first-ever running coach, to the controversial question of whether Ryan Montgomery should receive the M7 bib at Western States as a non-binary runner.🔥 Topics we cover:Why hiring a running coach might finally make sense for JakeThe massive gap between “real” ultra coaches and downloaded schedulesA heated debate on gender categories in races like Western StatesShould non-binary runners get male bibs in the top 10?A runner’s tragic death at Hardrock: how should races respond?How brand influence might affect who gets picked to race HardrockHardrock 100’s “inclusivity” claims vs. their limited entry numbersThis one is emotional, honest, and packed with controversial but critical discussions for the future of ultrarunning.✅ Subscribe for more real convos about trail running📲 DM us your thoughts or guest suggestions!
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 38min

Hardrock 100 Preview: Can Katie Schide Beat the Men?

🎧 Ultra runners, trail freaks, and endurance junkies — this one’s packed.What happens when the biggest names in trail and ultrarunning come together for Hardrock 100? We’re diving into billionaire mindsets, Hardrock predictions, Walmsley’s no-pacer hot take, and why Katie Schide might podium overall.Jake and MC are back in studio with:🏔️ Hot takes on Western States, UTMB, Bigfoot 200, and Francois’ new FKT💸 Wild billionaire math with Jerry Buss, Zuckerberg, and Bezos🔥 Walmsley’s controversial claim: “Elites shouldn’t use pacers”👟 Bigfoot 200 prep and how drop bag strategy can change the game🚨 Hardrock preview: Can Katie win it all? Will Ludo repeat?Whether you’re a hardcore runner or just love elite performance content, this episode hits hard.
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Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 28min

Most Epic Weekend in Trail Running? Western States + Lavaredo Recap

🔥 Was this the most exciting weekend in ultra running? We think so.Jake recaps his epic 75-mile adventure at Lavaredo Ultra Trail in the Italian Dolomites, while Mick breaks down the drama, dominance, and DNFs of this year’s Western States 100. From Caleb Olson’s iconic victory to David Roche’s controversial DNF, this is a full-spectrum trail running debrief.We cover:What it’s like to race in Europe (aid stations, culture, and carbonation)Caleb Olson’s rise and finger-to-lips celebrationWhy Corrine Malcolm & DBo make Western’s livestream eliteOur brutally honest takes on DNFs, including David Roche and Rod FarvardHow Hans Troyer fans came for us (and how we clapped back)Men’s and women’s top 10 recaps and predictions for next year👟 Whether you’re a trail newbie or seasoned ultra vet, this is your aid station for all things ultra.
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Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 40min

Western States Preview 🤣 Our Wildest Podcast Yet!

We’re back with another episode of The Next Aid Station, and this one is 🔥🔥🔥. It’s a full deep dive into everything Western States 100 2025 — but as always, nothing is off limits. From legendary poop stories to NBA trash talk to bold ultra running predictions, this episode has it all.👉 If you love ultra running, trail culture, and unfiltered podcast banter — don’t miss this episode.✅ Help support the show:👍 Like & Subscribe for more epic episodes📢 Share with your trail crew💬 Drop your 2024 Western States predictions in the comments!

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