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This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & MIck break down one of the most stacked episodes of the season — from Michael Greer’s 96-hour, 100,000 ft fundraiser, to the wildest NBA All-Star format yet, to a full Siskel & Ebert-style review of every major trail running documentary of 2024.Plus: the spiciest trail drama of the year, our picks for JFK 50, and why Western States / Hardrock lottery week is about to get VERY interesting.In this episode:• Michael Greer finishes 225 miles with 100K ft climbing• Community fundraiser for Aaron Jensen & Kelly West• NBA All-Star chaos: USA vs USA vs World• The “Black vs White All-Star Game” bit goes completely off-rails• Guinness World Record: 1,516 threes in one hour?!• Abby Hall + Kilian Jornet confirm return to Western States 2026• FULL Trail Running Film of the Year breakdown• The Finisher, The Chase, King of Moab, Nothing to Lose & more• Major trail drama of the year (McAleenan, USATF, Zach Miller, Arizona Monster)• JFK 50 predictions• Western States & Hardrock lottery hype• Plans for Austin, TRE, Tesla tour, and a quick show break⸻🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcastshttps://open.spotify.com/show/thenextaidstation📺 Subscribe on YouTubeDrop your favorite documentary of the year & your JFK 50 picks ↓#TrailRunning #UltraRunning #Podcast #WesternStates #Leadville #UTMB #MichaelGreer #BarkleyMarathons #TrailDrama #RunningDocumentaries #JFK50

This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & Mick dive into the strangest mix of trail running news, viral moments, and hot takes you didn’t know you needed. From Trump pardoning a trail runner to HOA rage and NBA rants, it’s equal parts ridiculous and insightful — exactly what you expect when the coffee hits before recording.In this episode:00:00 – Kicking off with chaos (and a quick Google search)01:00 – Jake’s “Glizzy Halloween” goes viral04:00 – NBA rant: Zion, Ja, and wasted potential09:30 – Trump pardons a trail runner?!13:50 – The 99% conviction rate rant21:20 – HOA guy named Bart gets roasted24:00 – Mask wars at 30,000 feet31:10 – Western States & Hardrock lottery talk37:40 – Barkley Marathon secrets40:10 – Cross-country shoutout in Spokane42:20 – Caleb Olson’s GT100 win47:00 – Stage races: fun or gimmick?49:30 – Who’s the real UROY?53:50 – Movie critics, Siskel & Ebert roast57:20 – Tunnel Hill records & Camille Herron debate1:04:20 – Jake vs. Scott: alternate course race idea1:07:20 – YouTube comments & Rachel vs. Tara1:20:20 – Camille’s “Men’s Meat x Women’s Race” collab1:23:20 – Sponsors, growth, and what’s next📺 Subscribe on YouTubeDrop your hot take in the comments & hit the bell — it helps us more than you think.

She’s redefining what it means to be an ultrarunner.Rachel Entrekin — physical therapist, 200-mile champion, and one of the fastest-rising names in trail running — joins The Next Aid Station for a raw, unfiltered deep dive into the evolution of the sport, the power of storytelling, and what it really takes to win at the edge of human endurance.From racing at Mammoth and Cocodona to debating UTMB’s dominance, Rachel opens up about everything: the politics of sponsorship, how livestreams are reshaping ultrarunning, and what it feels like to be called the “Queen of 200s.”Whether you’re a diehard fan or training for your first ultra, this is one of the most honest conversations you’ll hear about the sport’s future.Timestamps:⸻00:00 – Intro: The Men’s Meet x Women’s Race Collab01:00 – Meet Rachel Entrekin: The 200-Mile Queen Arrives03:00 – Running 19 Miles at 7:30 Pace (and Loving It?)05:00 – Beer, Basketball & Blue Moon Confessions07:00 – Rachel on Caitlin Clark & Why Competition Fuels Her08:30 – Can Rachel Beat Courtney Dauwalter? Let’s Talk About It10:30 – DNFs, Redemption & The Drive to Race Again12:00 – Who Gets to Decide What Races Matter?14:00 – Runners vs. Brands: Taking Back the Power16:00 – Why Live Streams Are Changing the Sport18:00 – Making Ultrarunning More Professional — Without Losing Its Soul20:00 – UTMB Is Coming to Utah: What It Means for Local Races23:00 – Are 200-Milers the Future of the Sport?25:00 – How Rachel & Jamil Are Changing Ultrarunning Forever27:00 – The Marketing Power of 200-Milers (and Why Brands Don’t Get It)30:00 – Why Visibility Matters More Than Winning33:00 – Do Prize Purses Even Matter? (Spoiler: No)35:00 – Being Labeled the “200-Mile Specialist” — and Fighting That Box37:00 – Rachel’s Big Goals: Hardrock, UTMB & Beyond40:00 – The Problem With How Athletes Are Paid43:00 – Storytelling Over Podiums: The Real Value of an Athlete46:00 – Branding, Sponsorships & What Runners Get Wrong Online48:00 – How Rachel Nearly Caught Jimmy Elam at Mammoth50:00 – Learning to “Make Moves” — Racing Smarter, Not Harder53:00 – Race Plans, Hardrock Dreams & UTMB Hopes57:00 – How Rachel Plans to Prove She Belongs Among the Best59:00 – Rachel on Inspiring Young Runners (and Her Favorite Fan Moment)01:01:00 – Why Accessibility Matters: Making Elites Relatable01:03:00 – Javelina Predictions: Who She’s Betting On01:06:00 – Rachel’s Next Chapter: From Racing to Commentating01:08:00 – Closing Thoughts: The Future of Ultra Running with Rachel Entrekin📹 Subscribe for more unfiltered ultrarunning stories:@thenextaidstation

It finally happened — Mick toed the line at Javelina Jundred and brought home his first 100-mile belt buckle. But it didn’t come easy. From a brutal first lap in a black T-shirt and handheld bottle, to puking in the desert and pounding ginger ale to survive, this is a full breakdown of what happens when your body and mind hit the wall.Jake and Mick dive into every lap of the legendary Javelina 100, unpacking the chaos, the lessons, and the moments that made this one unforgettable. From race-day mistakes and heat-management disasters to the ginger-ale miracle that turned it all around, this episode captures the full rollercoaster of running 100 miles in the Arizona desert.They also cover what’s next: the off-season training block, body-composition surprises, HYROX hot takes, and the long road to Cocodona 250.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or just love hearing what it really takes to earn a buckle, this one’s packed with grit, humor, and honesty.What You’ll Hear In This Episode:• The full Javelina 100-mile recap — heat, blisters, and redemption• The fueling breakdown (why ginger ale beats water)• Lessons learned from the crew tent and aid-station chaos• How to fix mid-race nausea when your stomach shuts down• Real talk on pacing, mindset, and post-race recovery• Community moments, haters, and the rise of The Next Aid Station• Winter training goals: F45, strength, and staying sharp for Cocodona• Reflections on Camille’s episode, kindness, and online culture• Behind-the-scenes: the one-bed hotel story and merch mayhemAbout The ShowThe Next Aid Station is the ultrarunning podcast that goes beyond splits and shoe talk — hosted by Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison, it’s where race stories meet real life. Each week, we dive deep into the highs, lows, and absurd moments that make the endurance world what it is.Follow & Support• Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts (Spotify, Apple, YouTube, etc.)• Follow on Instagram: @thenextaidstation• Grab official merch (MEN’S MEAT, Offended Guy, Camel Toe) at [shop link]• Leave a rating and share this episode with a training partner or crew chiefKeywords for SEO / Discovery:Javelina 100, Javelina Jundred, ultrarunning podcast, 100 mile race recap, first 100 miler story, ultramarathon training, desert running tips, hydration in ultras, ginger ale ultrarunning, fueling strategy, nausea during ultramarathon, Aravaipa Running, Western States Golden Ticket, HYROX training, endurance athlete podcast, Cocodona 250, F45 endurance, The Next Aid Station, Jake Kilgore, Mick Garrison

She’s a world record holder, a whistleblower, and the queen of Javelina Jundred.In this raw and hilarious conversation, Camille Herron opens up about her world records, the truth behind the USATF controversy, and how she’s using her voice to advocate for inclusion in ultrarunning.From tacos and super shoes to lawsuits and laughter, this is one of the most unfiltered episodes yet.Recorded in Scottsdale before Javelina Jundred, Jake, Mick, and Scott sit down with ultrarunning icon Camille Herron — the woman who’s redefined endurance running. Camille breaks down how she’s still setting records in her 40s, her neurodivergent journey with autism and ADHD, and the real story behind her recent media controversies. Plus, she talks Taco Bell, training, fairness in sport, and why she can absolutely laugh at the “Steely Toughness” memes.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid Station00:18 – Introducing the Queen of Javelina: Camille Herron01:04 – Driving Chaos: Camille’s Journey to Scottsdale01:26 – Setting World Records: The Spark that Drives Her02:10 – From 50 Miles to 6 Days: Camille’s Record-Breaking Range03:15 – Super Shoes & Longevity in Running04:00 – Trails vs Roads: Why Camille Loves to Go Fast04:50 – “What’s a Javelina?” — Camille’s Wild Desert Encounters06:00 – Running with 1,500 People: The Javelina Party Vibe07:00 – Taco Bell, Tacos, and World Records08:00 – Taco Bell Sends Camille a $10 Gift Card (and a Lifetime of Laughs)09:00 – Homemade Tacos & the Men’s Meat Shirt Connection09:45 – Would Camille Pace a Lap at Javelina?10:10 – Running 300 Miles and Carrying Your Own… What?!10:57 – When Nature Calls: Camille’s Funniest Marathon Stories11:19 – The Super Shoe Revolution Explained13:10 – Running Boston After the Bombing: A Powerful Moment14:00 – Rules, Fairness & Integrity: Camille’s View on Governing Bodies16:20 – Inside the Record Controversy: When a Course Isn’t “Certified Enough”18:00 – Calibration, Clocks, and Controversy — How Tiny Errors Cost Big20:00 – The Hidden Bureaucracy Behind Every World Record22:00 – “World Best” vs. “World Record” — What’s the Difference?23:20 – How Camille Changed the Rules for Drug Testing in Ultras24:10 – How Many World Records Does Camille Actually Hold?25:15 – Who Could Break Her Javelina Record?26:00 – How She Could Shave Minutes Off Her 14:03 Course Record27:15 – The Women Who Might Be Next: Predictions for Javelina 202429:00 – Cheering While Racing — Why Camille Loses Her Voice30:20 – Neurodivergence, Autism & ADHD in the Ultra World33:00 – Breaking Down the USA Track & Field Controversy35:00 – The Fight for Accommodations & Inclusion in Athletics38:00 – Communication Breakdown: How It All Went Wrong with USATF42:00 – Following Legal Advice & Protecting Herself from Misrepresentation45:00 – What She Would (and Wouldn’t) Do Differently47:10 – Why Inclusivity in Running Still Has a Long Way to Go52:00 – Trail vs Road Running: Finding Calm in Chaos55:00 – How Her Autism Diagnosis Changed Everything57:00 – The Greatest Female Ultrarunners of All Time59:00 – Is Camille in the Top 3? (Spoiler: Yes.)1:01:00 – Who Inspires Camille: Ruth Croft, Courtney, Katie & More1:03:00 – Wikipedia, Whistleblowing, and the Truth Behind the “Steely Toughness” Story1:06:00 – Why Camille Reported Rule Violations in Ultra Running1:07:00 – Justice Sensitivity & Integrity in Sport1:08:00 – The Wikipedia “Scandal”: Her Side of the Story1:10:00 – Where “Steely Toughness” Really Came From1:13:00 – The Real Story Behind the Edits & The Lawsuit1:16:00 – Clearing the Air: “It Was Never Me — It Was My Husband”1:17:00 – Halloween Costumes, Humor & Good Vibes1:20:00 – The Story Behind “Men’s Meat” and Internet Outrage1:23:00 – Camille’s Reaction to the Men’s Meat Shirt (She Loves It)1:24:00 – Laughing It Off: Camille’s Humor Shines1:25:00 – Closing Thoughts with The Queen of Javelina

Killian Korth, an elite ultrarunner and winner of prominent 200-mile races, shares insights from his thrilling rise in the running world. He discusses the unique pre-race atmosphere of Javelina Jundred, his fueling strategies for ultra distances, and the hilarity of aid station treats. Killian elaborates on managing his newfound fame and sponsorships, the emotional challenges of running 200+ miles, and balancing discipline with enjoyment in training. Also, stay tuned for wild off-trail stories that showcase the lighter side of ultrarunning!

🎙 It’s Belt Buckle Week! Jake and Mick are fired up for the javelina 100, breaking down race strategy, fantasy picks, and the wildest ultrarunning news of the week. From UTMB coming to Utah to Camille Herron’s legal showdown, this episode is packed with controversy, comedy, and insider insight into the trail running world.🔥 Highlights: • UTMB rumored to launch a 100-miler in Utah • The Moab 240 drama with Brody Chisholm & Candice Burt • Camille Herron’s autism & USATF controversy • Manuela's 200-mile record that no one’s talking about • Fantasy Free Trail picks for Havalina 100 (Golden Ticket predictions!) • Mick’s pre-race prep & Jake’s live YouTube stream plans🎯 Keywords: UTMB Utah 2025, Moab 240 controversy, Camille Herron USATF, Havalina 100 predictions, ultrarunning podcast, trail running news, The Next Aid Station, Killian Korth, David Roche, Sage Canaday, Destination Trails drama, Western States qualifiers👟 Subscribe for more weekly episodes diving into the culture, chaos, and camaraderie of ultrarunning.🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere else.📲 Follow @thenextaidstation for clips, race recaps & behind-the-scenes content.

This episode has everything — elite racing, wild controversy, and one of the rawest interviews we’ve ever done.Trail-runner Kilian Korth joins us fresh off his Moab 240 victory to unpack his Triple Crown sweep, insane weather, and how he handled 28 miles of mud on destroyed feet. Jake Kilgore relives his Kodiak 100 age category win that locked a direct UTMB entry, and the guys tackle the internet drama over their now-infamous “Here for the Men’s Meet” shirt.If you love trail running, dark humor, and real conversations about racing, community, and mindset — this is your episode.Timestamps:00:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” ControversyJake & Mick open with the viral shirt backlash — humor, misunderstanding, and how sarcasm dies on Instagram.03:20 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid StationThe hosts kick off another Tuesday episode and dive straight into recovery talk and sore-quads confessions.07:00 – The Moab 240 & Triple Crown BreakdownSetting the stage: Kilian Korth’s win, the brutal conditions, and what makes Moab different from every other 200-miler.08:10 – LIVE Call with Kilian KorthFresh off his Moab 240 victory, Kilian joins the show to unpack mud, misery, and mindset in his hardest race ever.14:00 – The Brody Leven ControversyWas he pulled too early? Kilian reacts to the drama at mile 54 and gives his take on race-director decisions.17:00 – Racing Through the Mud & Mental BattlesKilian’s raw account of the rain, exhaustion, and the mental fight that defined his Triple Crown sweep.20:00 – Aid-Station Strategy & Sleep ScienceHow Kilian managed foot pain, minimal rest, and elite-level efficiency — plus why a good crew can change everything.22:00 – What’s Next for Kilian KorthWhy he’s taking an off-season and processing the spotlight after the biggest win of his career.24:00 – Post-Interview ReactionsJake, Mick & Scott debrief the conversation, reveal behind-the-scenes footage, and tease Kilian’s documentary.30:00 – Trail Running News Round-UpCourtney Dauwalter’s road-marathon debut, Truett’s 2:25 at St. George, Connor Mantz’s new American record — full breakdown.38:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” BacklashWhy some people lost their minds over a joke tee, the meaning behind it, and how the guys plan to win skeptics over.47:00 – Kodiak 100 Recap 🏔️Jake’s full race story: training, strategy, near-perfect execution, and taking the 45-49 age-group crown (again).1:03:00 – Critical Gear Decisions That Won the RacePoles or no poles? Bladder or flasks? The tiny choices that made hours of difference.1:33:00 – Post-Race Reflection & UTMB Direct EntryEarning a UTMB spot, what it really means, and the plan heading into 2026.1:45:00 – Off-Season, Goals & Closing BanterJake on recovery mode, Mick’s Javelina prep, and the team’s next adventures.

🏆 “He ran through a storm — and came out a champion.”When freezing rain, 40 mph wind, and mud hit DC Peaks 50, Eli White didn’t just survive — he thrived. The Salt Lake Running Company athlete takes us behind the scenes of his shocking 2025 victory, sharing how he trained, fueled, and battled for the win on one of the toughest ultramarathon days ever.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “Lucky Pierre” dive deep into Eli’s mindset, gear choices, and wildest race moments — including how a mid-race fall, caffeine boost, and strategic moves sealed his win.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or chasing a 100-mile PR, this episode is a masterclass in racing smart under pressure.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Winner IntroductionEli White joins the pod fresh off his DC Peaks 50 victory — and “People’s Choice” favorite.01:00 – Betting on the Podium: Who Called It Right?The hosts break down their pre-race picks and how the stormy day reshaped the results.02:30 – Eli’s Journey: From Biology Professor to Running ProHow Eli went from teaching science to managing Salt Lake Running Company — and why it changed his life.04:45 – Why He Signed Up Last Minute for DC Peaks 50What pushed Eli to finally register just two weeks before race day.06:15 – Race Day Chaos: The Storm, the Course, and Staying AliveHow he planned his splits in the middle of unpredictable weather.08:00 – The Turning Point: When Eli Took the LeadA deep dive into his mid-race battle with Matt — and how a caffeine gel and rain jacket swap changed everything.12:20 – The Chase: Passing Matt and Building the GapEli explains exactly where and how he made his move through North Canyon’s smooth trails.15:10 – The Muddy Showdown at SummerwoodThe out-and-back moment that sealed the win — and what it’s like seeing your competition mid-race.18:00 – The Wild Finish Line CelebrationInside Eli’s “home run” finish and what made this stormy race so unforgettable.19:10 – Race Weekend Decisions: Saturday or Sunday?Eli breaks down how runners voted and why he preferred running through the rain.21:30 – Battling the Weather: Wind, Rain, and Survival ModeRunning through freezing wind, soaked trails, and mental toughness at its peak.25:00 – Shoe Talk: What Carried Him to VictoryThe surprising shoe choice that helped him win — and a mini gear chat with Jake & Mick.29:00 – Inside the Salt Lake “JV Team”Meet the crew behind Utah’s rising trail runners — and the inside jokes that power them.30:00 – Bear 100: Redemption Story in the MakingEli’s unfinished business at Bear 100 and how he plans to come back stronger.33:00 – Taper Tips & Pre-Race MindsetEli’s philosophy on tapering, training, and keeping your legs fresh.39:00 – Future Goals & Marathon SpeedFrom a 2:31 marathon to mountain ultras — what’s next for Eli White.41:00 – Closing Thoughts: Lessons from the StormThe mindset, preparation, and grit behind one of the gnarliest DC Peaks finishes ever.

🏔️ “I didn’t even know I won until I sat down.”In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we sit down with Ashley Moline, the women’s DC Peaks 50 champion, to relive the storm, mud, lightning, and chaos that defined this year’s race.Ashley shares how she outlasted freezing rain, thunder, and slippery descents to not only finish — but beat her time from last year and take 1st place overall female. From mental grit to gear hacks, this episode dives deep into what it takes to stay composed (and warm) when everything around you is falling apart.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome to the Next Aid StationMeet Wisconsin native and DC Peaks 50 winner, Ashley Moline01:00 – Cold Hands, Warm Heart (and a Bear Tag?)Ashley’s family crew, hand warmers, and the hilarious “bear tag” misunderstanding02:10 – Beating Her Time Despite a StormHow Ashley ran faster than last year — even with a new, wetter course03:30 – Running Through Shin-Deep MudAt what point do you stop avoiding puddles? (Hint: 35 miles in)05:10 – Staying Warm While Everyone Else FrozeHand warmers, glove swaps, and the gear choices that saved her race08:00 – “Wait… I’m in First?”Ashley realizes mid-race she might actually be winning11:00 – Crossing the Finish Line Without Knowing She WonHer shock at finding out she took first place overall female14:15 – Why She Had to FinishThe powerful mental drive behind her “A race” of the year15:40 – Choosing to Race in the StormAshley picked Saturday — and embraced the chaos16:45 – From 55K to 50 Miles to… 100?Will she take on the Bear 100 next?20:00 – How Coaching Changed Her RunningTraining smarter (not harder) and becoming a coach herself24:00 – From Wisconsin to UtahWhy she stayed after PT school and found her mountain home25:40 – Behind the Scenes of the DC Peaks StormRace directors discuss reroutes, safety calls, and chaos management27:00 – Lightning, Thunder & Laughing Through ItWhat it’s like running under a storm that lights up the whole sky31:00 – How She’d Improve the RaceHer feedback on course markings and the volunteer experience32:00 – Why the Volunteers Deserve a MedalShoutout to the real heroes who stood in the cold for hours34:00 – Will the Race Date Move Next Year?The team debates running before or after Bear 10041:30 – What’s Next for Ashley MolineBear 100, recovery, and her next mountain adventureWhat you’ll hear: • How Ashley conquered the storm everyone feared • The mental shift from third place to first overall • Her training and coaching philosophy for ultrarunners • Hilarious race-day stories (bear tags, lightning, and mud baths) • Inside look at how the DC Peaks team managed chaos mid-stormIf you’re an ultrarunner, endurance athlete, or just love stories of grit, humor, and community — this one’s for you.💬 Drop a comment with your favorite moment or storm story.📲 Subscribe for more epic race recaps & ultrarunning interviews.🎧 Listen to The Next Aid Station on Spotify & Apple Podcasts.Keywords:DC Peaks 50, ultramarathon, trail running podcast, storm race, women’s ultrarunning, DC Peaks recap, Ashley Moline, ultra runner interview, endurance athlete mindset, Bear 100 training