The David Frum Show

Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, sheds light on the complex relationship between Canada and the U.S. amid Trump's aggressive trade policies. He discusses the challenges of reshoring manufacturing and the risks of oversimplified political promises. Ford reflects on how Trump's rhetoric has emotionally impacted Canadians, emphasizing the need for cooperation over protectionism. The conversation touches on Canada's advancements in manufacturing and clean energy, while underscoring the importance of citizen engagement to counter political extremism.

Rahm Emanuel, a seasoned political operative who served as White House chief of staff, shares invaluable lessons from the 2008 financial crisis and critiques contemporary Democratic strategies. He emphasizes the importance of honest information to rebuild trust in U.S. foreign relations, particularly post-tariff policies. Emanuel also discusses the fragile dynamics with allies like Japan and China, urging collaboration across political lines to navigate economic turbulence and address failures in education and infrastructure that undermine the American dream.

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