

Catching Foxes
Luke and Gomer
Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!
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Jul 3, 2021 • 1h 10min
Beauty will Save the World!
Main Topic: discussion around Dr. Tracey Rowland's "What did Dostoyevsky mean when he said ‘Beauty will save the world’?"
Opening Banter: Luke's test on non-profit boards led Gomer to ask about a FICTIONAL Catholic non-profit. Support Catching FoxesLinks:What did Dostoyevsky mean when he said ‘Beauty will save the world’? | dawsonsociety.org.au — What did Dostoyevsky mean when he said ‘Beauty will save the world’?
by Tom Gourlay
Professor Tracey Rowland, Dean of the Melbourne session of the John Paul II Institute for Marriage and Family Studies presented this lecture at the Dawson Society Speakers Forum of 1 October 2013.William Lane Craig explains why he is not a Catholic - YouTube — William Lane Craig explains why he is not a Catholic
A Conversation with Bishop Robert Barron & William Lane Craig | Claremont McKenna College - 2018 - YouTube — A Conversation with Bishop Robert Barron & William Lane Craig | Claremont McKenna College - 2018

Jun 25, 2021 • 1h 14min
Welcome to Your Cohort
Luke's "one that got away" who dumped him because he failed college. Gomer misses his podcast wife.
Take Gomer to the Woodshed
Gomer's sad moment in Father's Day was a homily that went nowhere for 40 minutes, but everything else was fantastic.
Luke has an "A" right now for grad school, worth 5 points, but it still counts!
Then Luke goes on and on about how much he loves his cohort and the school and the basilica and yadda, yadda, yadda.
Also, "Hi, Paul!"Sponsored By:Redacted Coffee: Catching Foxes listeners get 25% off their purchases by choosing their loyalty: use either promo code TeamLuke or TeamGomer at checkout. No, there isn't a limit on the number of times you can use the promo code. Yes, this is a popularity contest. Promo Code: TeamLuke, Team GomerEquipt: Catholicism in the Modern Age requires new approaches to bring the love of God to a hurting world. The team over at Equipt is hosting a FREE three-part video series on how to help the Church thrive in these challenging times. Click our affiliate link to check it out.Support Catching FoxesLinks:Mendoza College of Business — Ed Hums is in his fourteenth year as a full-time faculty member of the Mendoza College of Business and currently teaches financial and managerial accounting to undergraduates and team teaches a course in the Masters in Non-Profit Administration program. He also lectures in the Executive Education program at the University and at various corporate locations. For several years Ed played a major role in the Notre Dame – St. Mary’s Tax Assistance Program. Ed will also serve as the faculty adviser for the Notre Dame Accounting Association. In addition to his teaching and lecturing, Ed monitors the rail industry.Mendoza College of Business — Accountancy Professor Ken Milani’s most recent research and writing have focused on foreign partners and the operating activities of partnerships. Recent articles co-authored by Milani have explored the income tax implications of U.S. real property interests owned by non-resident alien partners, alternative ways of placing property into a partnership, and the advantages of altering a partner’s adjusted basis as an income tax planning tool.

Jun 19, 2021 • 1h 5min
Shannon Gormley Uncensored! (AMA)
"Ask Michael's Wife Anything"
And our Patreon superheroes did ask her anything. We got 25 questions in about 15 minutes at 9:00 PM on Thursday night. Join our Patreon page and get access to early releases, bonus content, and our new and very lively Discord Server of Doom.
*We talk: *
NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it's important to her;
Homeschooling and our Classical approach,
and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
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Jun 11, 2021 • 54min
3 Life Questions
Luke's at Notre Dame! (And he forgot his microphone!)
FOLLOW-UP
First: Six Types of Working Genius in Gomer's home and with a co-worker.
Second: Season 2 non-spoiler review of "For All Mankind".
Question: How do you handle screen time with your kids?
Question: How do you have a sucessful long-distance relationship?
Question: If I were the pastor, these are the Top Three Things I would do
Luke's at Notre Dame!
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Support Catching FoxesLinks:#443 – C.S. Lewis’s “Most Dangerous” Argument — Trent is joined by Pints with Jack host David Bates to dive into C.S. Lewis’s most philosophically challenging argument against atheism.
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Jun 4, 2021 • 1h 22min
Six Types of Working Genius and Ministry
The Working Genius Podcast by Patrick Lencioni.
IDEATION
Wonder
Invention
ACTIVATION
Discernment
Galvanizing
IMPLEMENTATION
Enablement
Tenacity
Notes
-Luke killed a mouse, Gomer’s wife killed a scorpion, while Gomer was naked
-Take Gomer to the Woodshed: Nonviolence and the violence in protests follow-up
Gomer D.I.S.C. profile for staff, majority of which were “Stability” but the YM were “Innovative.” The YM is where you find the creatives and the envelope-pushers, but the rest of staff had the Stable personality, and so they hate change as a part of their personality. So you have a real reason why no one paints the walls or puts up beautiful artwork or challenges the status quo. Luke's experience of the “Catholic Creatives” working group where the culture screamed: New things are respected (and expected)!
Remember, each of the six types of working genius are verbs, it’s who you are and what you do. This idea of the verb really opened Luke to the process of the Working Genius as a process. Looking at these different approaches, however, really helped Luke see where he was strongest and weakest, where my strengths were, and also how Catching Foxes came together. Also, we both suck at Tenacity! (thanks for keeping us alive, Kate.)
A few examples:
**Discernment: **Sometimes the hyper-spiritualizing of “all things” leads to false action. We think “God put this on my heart” but that doesn’t mean we don’t think through the problems, or MAYBE that's just our way of smuggling in our ideas in a religious context. I mean, who's going to question God's will for your ministry?!
Galvanizing: We forget that we aren’t just speaking to the people in the pews, but to the staff! We need to galvanize the staff, inspire them, and move them. We need to minister to their needs in a way that gets them involved in a mission.
Enablement: No more victims of unvoiced expectations, or worse, shifting unvoiced expectations! Enablement is not the same as letting someone do their job description, but training, working with, feedback, coaching, etc. Help them do the right thing- connect and cooperate.
-Luke and I both suck at Tenacity!
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The 6 Types of Working Genius w/ Patrick Lencioni - EntreLeadership Interview — The 6 Types of Working Genius w/ Patrick LencioniPatrick Lencioni - The 6 Types Of Working Genius | The Learning leader Show w/ Ryan Hawk - YouTube — What is a "Working Genius?” – There are 6 different types, and we all have two of them that are natural to us, that we're good at doing them, and we get energy, joy, and satisfaction from them. What about the other 4 areas? – 2 of them are Working Frustrations that drain us of our energy and passion, and in many cases, we’re not very good at them; and 2 other areas that are in between called Working Competencies, areas that we can do pretty well, maybe even really well, but that don’t necessarily give us energy or joy.Home | The 6 Types of Working Genius — Far too many people in the world suffer needlessly because they don't understand their personal areas of working genius. As a result, they don't do the kind of work that gives them joy and energy, and they end up in jobs and projects that are draining and demoralizing. This is a grave tragedy on two levels.
First, it leads those people to lose confidence in themselves and enthusiasm for life, which is devastating for them, their families and friends, and society as a whole. That alone is heartbreaking.
Second, organizations and teams–even families–that don't tap into the true genius of their members can't come close to realizing their potential. They are left puzzled by their inability to achieve their goals. This often leads them to make inaccurate and hurtful judgements about one another, and to feel unnecessarily guilty about their own shortcomings.
What makes all of this particularly tragic is that it is avoidable. The solution is for everyone–employees, managers, students and spouses–to identify their areas of working genius, as well as their areas of life-draining weakness, and to put themselves in a position to tap into their genius more and engage in their weakness less.
That is what this assessment is all about.The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni on Apple Podcasts — What is your Working Genius? The Working Genius podcast is designed to help people identify their natural gifts and find joy and fulfillment in their work and life.Working Genius Assessment for $25

May 28, 2021 • 1h 22min
Sacred Art, Progress, and How to Argue with your Spouse
We start talking about Sacred Architecture and crappy churches, which moves the conversation to Sacred Artwork and how we advance them without getting lost in the lameness of the fad or the trendy. Then halfway we hit on the topic of arguing with your spouse. We end with a "Keeping up with the Kardashians" moment of "Take Luke out to the Woodshed". Sponsored By:Tilma Parish: Tilma is a ministry tool made by ministry people, and it's easy to manage. Start with a free demo at tilmaparish.com/foxes. If you sign up here, you get the first month for free.
Porter Road: NOW DELIVERING MEAT THE WAY MEAT SHOULD BESupport Catching FoxesLinks:Wall Art – Providential Co.Prints | MarekMade — ProductsThe Dream of the Rood - The Abbey of Misrule — And it really was everything. No aspect of daily life was unaffected by the story: the organisation of the working week; the cycle of annual feast and rest days; the payment of taxes; the moral duties of individuals; the very notion of individuals, with ‘God-given’ rights and duties; the attitude to neighbours and strangers; the obligations of charity; the structure of families; and most of all, the wide picture of the universe - its structure and meaning, and our human place within it.
Sacrosanctum concilium — Holy Mother Church has therefore always been the friend of the fine arts and has ever sought their noble help, with the special aim that all things set apart for use in divine worship should be truly worthy, becoming, and beautiful, signs and symbols of the supernatural world, and for this purpose she has trained artists. In fact, the Church has, with good reason, always reserved to herself the right to pass judgment upon the arts, deciding which of the works of artists are in accordance with faith, piety, and cherished traditional laws, and thereby fitted for sacred use.
The Church has been particularly careful to see that sacred furnishings should worthily and beautifully serve the dignity of worship, and has admitted changes in materials, style, or ornamentation prompted by the progress of the technical arts with the passage of time.
Wherefore it has pleased the Fathers to issue the following decrees on these matters.

May 21, 2021 • 1h 46min
Massa Damnata?
Luke and Gomer talk about goodness and why people always want to be right in the Church, even when we damn our adversaries needlessly. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Pints with Jack: The Pints with Jack Podcast strives to discover the Truth & Beauty of Christianity through the lens of C.S. Lewis. Join a Roman Catholic and Byzantine Catholic each week as they discuss his works chapter-by-chapter and interview experts on their special "After Hours" episodes! Tilma Parish: Tilma is a ministry tool made by ministry people, and it's easy to manage. Start with a free demo at tilmaparish.com/foxes. If you sign up here, you get the first month for free.
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Universalism, Balthasar, the Massa Damnata, and the Question of Evangelization. – Gaudium et Spes 22 — My point in all of this is not to dump on Ralph Martin, although his scandalous treatment of Balthasar and von Speyr richly deserves it, but to highlight the extent to which the traditionalist movement has become obsessed with eternal hellfire. As I have mentioned before, their mantra should be “more hell cowbell please.” Martin’s book, “A Church in Crisis,” is an otherwise decent book with which I am in deep agreement on many points, which only underscores the oddity of his sudden flight into hysteria and calumny when it comes to the question of Balthasar and Hell. And that really was the main point of all of the foregoing. Namely, that the retrieval of some concept of the massa damnata is so important to traditionalists that they are willing to eviscerate, and then to draw and quarter, even orthodox theologians of great stature who they deem to be too soft on the question.
How to Get to Heaven — Bishop Barron’s Sunday Sermon - YouTube — Friends, in today’s first reading, we hear from St. Peter that it is only through the name of the Lord that we may be saved. Whatever elements of truth there are to be found in various religions, these partial elements participate in the fullness of truth found in Jesus. In Christ and through Christ, we are made to become participants in God’s own life.
Ralph Martin Responds to Bishop Barron on the Salvation of Non-Christians - YouTube — Brothers and Sisters, because of the importance of the subject matter we thought we should share a special video message today. Bishop Robert Barron recently gave a sermon that has occasioned a lot of interest and some controversy. Fr. Mark Goring responded to some of what Bishop Barron said, but since part of what he said is an area that I have a deep concern about and also some expertise in, I thought I should offer some friendly comments. I hope you find them useful.
What Ought Balthasar to Hope? — "Death is not the final word." Desire, Experience, Conversion: An Interview with Father John Nepil
#hope #judgement #deathPsalm 22 RSVCE - Plea for Deliverance from Suffering and - Bible Gateway — My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning?That Nature is a Heraclitean Fire and of the Comfort of the Resurrection — In a flash, at a trumpet crash,
I am all at once what Christ is, | since he was what I am, and
This Jack, joke, poor potsherd, | patch, matchwood, immortal diamond,
Is immortal diamond.

May 14, 2021 • 1h 7min
We Never Forgot You, Dr. Dre.
Banter: Dr. Dre seems to have suffered from insecurity due to the lack of success around the Aftermath album.
Main Topic: Luke's prayer life sucks. Gomer gives amazing advice.
Life Lesson: Do NOT, under any circumstances, forget about Dre. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Questlove says Dr. Dre "saved" The Roots after their label "imploded" — Questlove says Dr. Dre “saved” The Roots after their label “imploded”

May 7, 2021 • 1h 11min
Marvel vs. NASA
Gomer and Luke start out with some banter, then follow-up.
The topic for today is contrasting "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" with "For All Mankind" in the areas where they treat social issues. Gomer bashes the crap out of Marvel for their inability in this show to not be on the nose and praises the writers and actors of "For All Mankind" so creating such compelling characters that you actually think they are, you know, human. Just when you think the villains are pure villains, they aren't. Just when you think the one-dimensional man is a bigot, he's not. Just when you think the mission will finally succeed, it doesn't. Or does it? Cap demand we "do better" but AppleTV actually does!
Two Follow-Ups, Main Topic, followed by complaining about Restrictions.Sponsored By:Porter Road: NOW DELIVERING MEAT THE WAY MEAT SHOULD BEBetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
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Glenmary Ecumenical Podcast on Apple Podcasts — Interviews and discussions from Christian ministers and theologians on ecumenical efforts between Catholics and Evangelical and Pentecostal groups.
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Apr 30, 2021 • 1h 12min
Dumb and Dumber as Cultural Lighthouse
We each brought a topic, but I sidetracked the Hell out of us both.
Topic One: Gomer's critique of the bloody Marxist critique of corporations stealing our future, and Luke's reasoned response involving Catholic Creatives and art stuff.
Topic Two: GOMER CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT ATONEMENT THEOLOGY, but today's twist is how Gomer discovered via YouTube how much the Orthodox hate Catholics and how the Taylor Marshall of American Orthodoxy is an old woman. Sponsored By:Pints with Jack: The Pints with Jack Podcast strives to discover the Truth & Beauty of Christianity through the lens of C.S. Lewis. Join a Roman Catholic and Byzantine Catholic each week as they discuss his works chapter-by-chapter and interview experts on their special "After Hours" episodes! Catholic Match: Faith-focused Dating: the largest Catholic dating site in the world—where thousands of Catholics find their spouse. Promo Code: FOXESSupport Catching FoxesLinks:Why Jim Carrey Fought to Cast Jeff Daniels in 'Dumb and Dumber' - YouTube — Jim Carrey, smartly, fought for Jeff Daniels as Harry Dunne in' Dumb and Dumber' knowing that they needed an actor, not another comedian.
Jeff Daniels Knew Dumb and Dumber Jeopardized Serious Roles - YouTube — Jeff Daniels doesn't trust the entertainment business one bit, which is why he aimed to create range, rather than riding the success of 'Dumb and Dumber'.
Orthodox Christianity: Pagan doctrine of the "Atonement" - YouTube — Presbytera Irene Matta MTh interviews His Eminence, Archbishop Lazar (Puhalo) OCA (retired) at his Monastery of All Saints of N. America in Canada. Atheism results from this idea that God requires a "blood sacrifice" from His Son - a shocking departure from the Revelation of God's loving Son in Holy Scriptures and His restoration of our alienation from the Father with the Holy Spirit! Atonement Theories Round Table - YouTube — Michael hosts a discussion with a Roman Catholic (Erick Ybarra), Eastern Catholic (Elijah Yasi), Eastern Orthodox (Fr. Patrick Ramsey), Oriental Orthodox (Daniel Kakish) and a Reformed Protestant (Turretinfan) on theories of the atonement of Christ.Tim Staples - What do Catholics believe about the Atonement? - YouTube — What do Catholics believe about the Atonement? Tim Staples explains the Catholic understanding on this important teaching.


