

Catching Foxes
Luke and Gomer
Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!
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Oct 9, 2021 • 1h 26min
Emergencies in Cincinnati, with Mike Schafer and Sean Ater
Managing Decline?: 2% drop in Mass attendance per parish, per year. Average Sunday Mass is 1/3 full. This has been getting worse - and it's be tracked and known - for 20 years, but no one has done anything. They got used to the decline. They got used to the emergencies without the urgency that crises can motivate. Beacons of Light, criticized by Rod Dreher as trying to put a nice spin on dire circumstances, is also evangelization and discipleship centered.
*What are the Families? *
208 parishes under 109 pastors, common pastors but not coming together.
Some of the 109 pastors are over 70 and some even over 75 (post-retirement)
Final set of 60 families will be announced this year
Spring, priests will be announced as pastors - 49 of them will not be pastors, some will finally be able to retire.
We want Father to lead his new Family- are we ready to lead the New Evangelization? Archbishop Schnurr sees the needs as hyper local, so he’s supportive but leaving the pastors to decide for their own communities…
_Luke's Money Quote: _I don’t think people get how bad it actually is! The Emergencies are everywhere. The Catholic Church is an afterthought! Sponsored By:Faith Investors: Align your finances and your faith! Call now: 281-674-7394BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Beacons of Light - Archdiocese of Cincinnati — Introducing Beacons of Light
The Archdiocese of Cincinnati has launched Beacons of Light, a comprehensive process of pastoral planning, to study every aspect of the archdiocese and parishes to determine how to best array our resources – human, physical and financial – to spread the Gospel far and wide.Schnurr gets started - by JD Flynn - The Pillar — The Archdiocese of Cincinnati announced on Friday a restructuring initiative that could eventually close 70% of archdiocesan parishes. The process will begin by clustering the 208 parishes of the archdiocese into 60 “families” of parishes, which will share pastors, staff, and infrastructure, but initially remain canonically independent.
From Christendom to Apostolic Mission: Pastoral Strategies for an Apostolic Age: University of Mary, Prime Matters, Monsignor James P. Shea: 9780998872896: Amazon.com: Books — Every human society possesses a moral and spiritual imaginative vision, a set of assumptions and ways of looking at things according to which life proceeds. This essay is an attempt to contribute effective strategies to engage our own time and culture once more with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and – for a weary world – to awaken the Catholic imaginative vision.

Oct 2, 2021 • 1h 22min
The Joy of the Streams, with Jonathan Blevins
We chatted with Jonathan Blevins as he takes the plunge from full-time parish Director of Evangelization to full-time Twitch Streamer. We talk about online culture, the dangers of VR, the importance of Catholics being in this space, and what's it like being Ninja's brother, the most famous esports gamer in the world. Sponsored By:Faith Investors: Align your finances and your faith! Call now: 281-674-7394Redacted Coffee: Catching Foxes listeners get 25% off their purchases by choosing their loyalty: use either promo code TeamLuke or TeamGomer at checkout. No, there isn't a limit on the number of times you can use the promo code. Yes, this is a popularity contest. Promo Code: TeamLuke, Team GomerSupport Catching FoxesLinks:About | Twitch.tv — Twitch is where millions of people come together live every day to chat, interact, and make their own entertainment together. Games Music Talk Shows Sports Travel & Outdoors Just Chatting Food & Drink Special EventsJustin.tv - Wikipedia — The original Justin.tv was a single channel featuring Justin Kan. Wearing a webcam attached to a baseball cap and streamed online via a laptop-backpack system designed by co-founder Kyle Vogt,[10] Kan decided he would wear the camera 24/7, and he began streaming continuous live video and audio at midnight March 19, 2007.[11] Kan would be streaming his entire life (minus bathroom and bathing breaks) via a camera attached to his hat and a laptop rig created by Justin.tv co-founder, Kyle Vogt. While streaming, Kan interacted with viewers via an inbuilt chat system. His viewers liked to play pranks on him by reporting different supposed incidents to the police (now known as swatting) or sending large amounts of food to his apartment, both of which remain as still being somewhat popular Internet pranks even after the site's shutdown.[12]
BeardedBlevins - TwitchJonathan Blevins (@beardedblevins) • Instagram photos and videos — Beloved son. Husband. Father. Bearded. Catholic. Entrepreneur. Partnered Streamer on Twitch. Let’s change the world. Host of @supersquareshq
Jonathan Blevins (@BeardedBlevins) / Twitter

Sep 26, 2021 • 1h 1min
An Audience of 4
Topics include:
What do you do if you're afraid of sex?
How do you cultivate the right kind of knowledge of your partner before marriage?
"Noone could be a man unless his father has died. "- FreudSponsored By:CMF CURO: You don’t have to compromise your faith to get great health care. Finally, there is an option that respects and engages your Catholic faith, with a Catholic community that supports you in living your Health Care Fully Alive. CMF Curo!SimpliSafe: "What a sweet Key Fob!" You can save 30%
& get 1 month of FREE MONITORING by signing up for 24/7 professional monitoring with SimpliSafe Whole Home Protection. Support Catching FoxesLinks:Father's Day and the Death of the Father | Psychology Today — Boys who were raised without fathers fill our prisons. They are slower to launch, being more inclined to stay closer to the home, which is symbolized and embodied by the mother. The father represents the world beyond the boy's home. Just as important, a father transforms a boy into a son. A male and a female can create a boy, but only a father can create a son. This is a symbolic act. Luigi Zoja, an Italian Jungian psychologist, has written a full account of this in his wonderful book, THE FATHER. Last, consider this: In his relationship with his mother, a boy first learns he is lovable. A mother's love should be unconditional and infant boys do not respond to this with love, but rather with gratitude. Love for his mother follows in reaction to being loved. In his relationship with his father, however, a boy first initiates loving another human being. He does this as forming a foundation for identifying with a male. A boy identifies only with someone he first loves.
You Become a Man When You Lose Your Father | THE SCG SHOW — When my father passed away, I knew the responsibility lay on my shoulders. Meaning all affairs, assets, responsibilities were transferred to me and my brother. We had to deal with it. When you lose your father, it lies with you. Now taking responsibility does not only make you a man but is an essential thing about becoming a better person.You Become a Man When You Lose Your Father | Self Improvement — This video is about how you become a man when you lose your father. There are four things that really make you a man when you lose your father.

Sep 19, 2021 • 1h 29min
Family, Disney, & Norm MacDonald
First: We got an update for Gomer's family and Luke's return to grad school work.
Also: "Fundraising is a Grind" and Parish Development. Baby Boomers got 70% of the wealth, but are the most generous. Gen Xers set the culture and Millennials drive Pop Culture.
Then: Erin, Luke's wife, ruins their car out of stubbornness, Gomer spent hundreds on his latest YouTube hobby (lighting), and we discuss the Disney Movie Renaissance.
Finally: We talk about the passing of Norm MacDonald. Sponsored By:CMF CURO: You don’t have to compromise your faith to get great health care. Finally, there is an option that respects and engages your Catholic faith, with a Catholic community that supports you in living your Health Care Fully Alive. CMF Curo!BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Goodbye, Norm Macdonald - Front Porch Republic — The humorous story is told gravely; the teller does his best to conceal the fact that he even dimly suspects that there is anything funny about it … Very often, of course, the rambling and disjointed humorous story finishes with a nub, point, snapper, or whatever you like to call it. Then the listener must be alert, for in many cases the teller will divert attention from that nub by dropping it in a carefully casual and indifferent way, with the pretense that he does not know it is a nub.
Why Mulan (2020) Didn't Work — Live action Disney movies cannot distance themselves from the songs in the original because the songs were actually important and reveal motivations and identities that the movie cannot capture in live action without them. They will always feel wrong. Why the Music in the Live Action Disney Remakes is Worse than you ThoughtNorm's Bob Saget Roast — "Yeah, cauliflower!"Norm Macdonald's Moth Joke — So he tells this long story about a moth visiting a podiatrist and laying out all his life problems, and of course, the premise and story are both riddled with contradictions right from the start. This is a story that doesn’t make sense, and it becomes even more absurd when the names of characters start showing up: Gregory Olinavich. Alexandria. Gregario Ivanilitovich. And his wife, “Some old woman I used to love.” The moth were it not for his cowardice, explains Norm, would like to make use of the loaded pistol on his nightstand. We’re only two minutes in, and evidently we’ve wandered into a Kafkaesque nightmare... Norm Macdonald & Melrose Place star, Courtney Thorne-Smith on Conan O’Brien — Norm Macdonald & Courtney Thorne-Smith utterly trashes the "Chairman of the Board" movie starring Carrot Top. "Box Office Poison"!
Norm's Final Day of Hosting Weekend Update — Before getting fired. Why was he was fired?

Sep 10, 2021 • 1h 11min
Being Miserable is Not a Personality
Four parts: Gomer's latest YouTube obsession, but it's more altruistic. Then 3 practical, yet sexy questions from Patreon supporter Moira. Luke discusses an awful picture of an employee and posits: "being miserable is not a personality." Finally, we conclude with Woodstock 99. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
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Sep 4, 2021 • 1h 14min
Diamonds
The Artist plays with symbols without necessarily knowing fully what they mean. And when Art is bent to tell a moral and not a story, it becomes Propaganda. Sponsored By:CMF CURO: You don’t have to compromise your faith to get great health care. Finally, there is an option that respects and engages your Catholic faith, with a Catholic community that supports you in living your Health Care Fully Alive. CMF Curo!SimpliSafe: "What a sweet Key Fob!" You can save 30%
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Support Catching FoxesLinks:Catching Foxes: Sin as Micro-dosing Divinity — Gomer likes talking shit about people. Why? You are called to be a tiny god, but you aren’t acting like it, so you stomp on others to fake elevate yourself. A micro-dose of divinity. Sin as false-theosis, self-divinization is always pulling God down to our level, whereas divine filiation is God lifting us up to His level, as it were. The goal is to feel more than human, but I cannot do that for myself, so I have to bring down other humans. Yet, to be “more than human” in reality is to be humble, realizing that you can’t make yourself more than human on your own, you need God to do that. But why work? Why asceticism and mortification? If I have free will, where does God’s grace come in? The hypostatic union is the only answer!
Aristotle: Poetics — Poetry is more "philosophical" than history, according to Aristotle, because in order to unfold a plot in a manner that is convincing to the audience, the poet must grasp and represent the internal logic, the necessity, of the outcome of those events.
(1) Sia - Diamonds (Acoustic) - YouTube(1) Sia's full interview with Howard Stern 2014 - YouTube — Sia's full interview with Howard Stern 2014

Aug 28, 2021 • 1h 1min
The TLM is good, but it isn't Magic
We start the show talking about the recent Provincial Assembly (thanks for the invite, Fr. Roberts and Fr. Cahill!) and then stuff about Church life and not giving a crap about a bunch of Church stuff.
Then Luke brings up some documentary on the Traditional Latin Mass (that's not anti-Vatican 2) and Luke goes off on a rage about those who seem to think that the TLM is magic and will fix everything when the FREAKIN' NAZIS HAD THE LATIN MASS AND THOSE FREAKS COMMITTED GENOCIDE!
Finally a chat about daughters dating and what it was like hanging out with parents. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:soteriology - Which theory of the atonement did C. S. Lewis hold? - Christianity Stack Exchange — When Scripture says that Christ died 'for' us,a I think the word is usually ὑπέρ (on behalf of), not ἀντί (instead of). I think the ideas of sacrifice, Ransom, Championship (over Death), Substitution, etc., are all images to suggest the reality (not otherwise comprehensible to us) of the Atonement. To fix on any one of them as if it contained and limited the truth like a scientific definition wd. in my opinion be a mistake.Ep. #160 - What do Catholics Believe about the Atonement? w/ Michael Gormley - Classical Theism — What do Catholics believe about the atonement? Why does it matter that some guy died 2000 years ago? How can we distinguish Catholic views from Reformed protestant views of the atonement? How might we understand Leviticus 16, Isaiah 53, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Romans 8:3, and 1 Peter 2:24 in light of the Catholic view? Michael Gormley joins us to tackle these issues head-on.

Aug 21, 2021 • 1h 27min
Blame It on the Rain
Milli Vanilli, The Darkest Timeline, Millennial Analogies;
Bishops and their Gomer;
Classical Theism Podcast (this monday with gomer);
Gomer's Intimidation by Luke;
Peak Gomer
Peak Luke
A Redemptive Story from that night
Luke wears Grandpa's pants (and Grandma's blouse)
Forgotten Ruin book series and Gomer's Daughter talking about "suppressive fire"
Patreon Question: How do you get over a very serious relationship breakup
Gomer's Theology: How the ancient catholic church viewed "Church" differently than we tend to do in today's Americanized, Protestantized Christianity, especially in evangelization. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Milli Vanilli - Wikipedia — By May, Pilatus and Morvan were touring Spain, France and Italy, lip-syncing to the pre-recorded tracks and thrilling crowds with their distinct style — spandex shorts, thigh-high boots and cornrow hair extensions.[14] According to Pilatus, "We would ask Frank, 'When are we going to be allowed to give some (artistic) input?', and he would say, 'Yeah, yeah, but right now we need you to go out and do promotion. Of course, you'll get to do it, just work with us.' That's how he strung us along."[9] After "Girl You Know It's True" took off in Germany in summer 1988, Farian produced and wrote most of the material on the album All or Nothing, which was released in Europe in November 1988.
Milli Vanilli - Girl You Know It's True - YouTube — Milli Vanilli's official music video for 'Girl You Know It's True'.Mysterion: The Revelatory Power of the Sacramental Worldview: Fr. Harrison Ayre: 9780819850164: Amazon.com: Books — Mysterion unveils the underlying vision at the heart of Christianity and invites us to enter into a deeper understanding of the mystery and saving work of Christ. We discover the fulfillment of our deepest desires in the sacramental worldview ― a powerful way of seeing all created things as pointing us toward God. In this book, Fr. Harrison Ayre reveals a forgotten way of seeing and living the Christian life that can help us understand what it means for us to be “in Christ,” to participate in Christ’s life in and through the Church, and to allow his life and grace to work in us. Through the integrated vision that comes from seeing the world sacramentally, we will begin to see how all of life, liturgy, and creation are structured to lead us to an encounter with the God who loves us.Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText — 166 Faith is a personal act - the free response of the human person to the initiative of God who reveals himself. But faith is not an isolated act. No one can believe alone, just as no one can live alone.

Aug 13, 2021 • 1h 29min
Money, Pain, and Late Night
Luke and Gomer talk money and the Church (not the Vatican, but fundraising).
Then Gomer updates everyone about Shannon and what's next there (minute 40ish).
Finally, as Luke tries to hang up, Gomer demands Luke tells him all about the new audiobook Luke's listening to about the Late Night wars between Leno and Conan. Sponsored By:BetterHelp.com: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
Support Catching FoxesLinks:Donate | Adore Ministries | Adore Ministries General Fund — Donate to Adore Ministries General Fund
Why the Music in Cats (2019) is Worse than you Thought - YouTube — gomer's new addictionWhy the Music in Les Misérables (2012) is Worse than you Thought - YouTube — Why the Music in Les Misérables (2012) is Worse than you Thought
Why A Goofy Movie is Better Than You Remember - YouTubeWhy the Soundtrack to Shrek is Actually Genius - YouTube

Aug 6, 2021 • 1h 19min
Is everything sad going to come untrue?
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Support Catching FoxesLinks:Quote by Theodore Roosevelt: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man wh...” — “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Invictus by William Ernest Henley | Poetry Foundation — It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.If— by Rudyard Kipling | Poetry Foundation — If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!Sufjan Stevens – No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross — There’s blood on that blade
Fuck me, I'm falling apart
My assassin
Like Casper the ghost
There’s no shade in the shadow of the crossJoe Esposito – You're the Best — Try to be best 'cause you're only a man
And a man's gotta learn to take it
Try to believe though the going gets rough
That you gonna hang tough to make itEverything Sad Will Come Untrue — “Is everything sad going to come untrue?”
—Sam Gamgee to Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings (chapter 4, Book Six)
“[Some mortals] say of some temporal suffering, “No future bliss can make up for it,” not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory.”
—C. S. Lewis, The Great Divorce, chapter 9.