Building Better Businesses in ABA

I met Dr. Darren Sush at the Autism Law Summit in 2022 (Oklahoma City) and I couldn't wait for this conversation given the recently announced partnership between Cigna/Evernorth and the Behavioral Health Center of Excellence on outcomes and value-based care. I'm a HUGE fan of accreditation ... a HUGE fan of the BHCOE ... a HUGE fan of quantified outcomes (as a pre-cursor to value-based care) ... so this was as homerun before I even hit the recording studio. And Darren doesn't disappoint: do you want the keys-to-the-kingdom on how and why payers operate? Go no further, Darren is the real deal. Case-in-point: what happened on day 1 of Darren's autism services career: he got punched in the face ... and the rest is history :) Enjoy, kind listener!ResourcesGet in touch with Darren ...By email: darren.sush@evernorth.comOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdarrensush/Via his website: http://drdarrensush.com/Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Move knowledge, not patients." That, my friends, is the definition of root-causing the immense supply/demand imbalance we see in ABA ... and across healthcare. And that's exactly what Alicia Curran and Dr. Kristin Sohl are doing with Project ECHO autism. I first met them for an ECHO training in New Mexico in 2019 and I was ENRAPTURED by how they're turning medicine on its head by focusing on empowering front-line clinical teams. For instance, imagine a program that trains/supports pediatricians to make effective autism diagnoses ... or nurse practitioners to work with people experiencing kidney failure. Because it just doesn't seem possible - nor practical - to increase the number of psychologists and nephrologists. But with ECHO? Anything is possible. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources:Alicia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicia-brewer-curran-6a2a88260/>Kristin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sohl-md-faap-4964aa8/>Assert: https://notables.vkcsites.org/2022/01/malow-receives-pcori-engagement-award-to-build-capacity-for-research-in-idd-through-knowledge-sharing-model/https://vkc.vumc.org/assets/files/studyfinder/malow-PCORI-jan22.pdfECHO Autism Communities: https://echoautism.org/Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

When Amanda joined BlueSprig in 2018, she had a major conviction: her title would include "Learning" .... NOT "Training". Because training is done TO people, as a one-off event, with the focus on the trainer. Learning, on the other hand, is an evolution and accumulation of knowledge, focused on the learner. Just one of many insights from this extraordinary conversation. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources>Amanda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-fullbright-470071a/>ABA Unfiltered Podcast (Amanda is the host!): https://www.bluesprigautism.com/news-updates/2023/january/fifth-season-of-aba-unfiltered-is-coming-f...>Kirkpatrick Model of Training Evaluation: https://kirkpatrickpartners.com/the-kirkpatrick-model/>Performance Thinking Network: https://www.sixboxes.com/>Bluesprig CEUs (for any BCBA!): https://bcbaceu.bluesprigautism.com/users/sign_in?next=%2FdashboardBuilding Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Back by popular demand! My first convo with Jing was one of the highest downloaded episodes so we're chatting again, this time about the challenges ABA providers face. I love how she ties financial metrics back to people and clinical metrics ("people and quality drive profit"). She also brings a healthy perspective on how you - as an owner/operator - can leverage your time: move from "how can I get this done?" to "who on my team can do this." Enjoy, kind listener!ResourcesJing on ...>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jing-zhou-strategic-business-guide/>Email: jing@coreactionconsult.comBuilding Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Dr.'s Janet & Coby Lund have single-handedly built more companies - and companies of quality, I might add - than anyone else in the ABA field that I'm aware of. Data Finch (Catalyst data collection), Behavior Live, Integrated Behavioral Solutions and now Archer Behavioral Health. They have an uncanny ability to reflect on their successes and struggles and translate ALL of those learnings into their next endeavor. And their clickbait-worthy pearls of wisdom are unmatched: eg, "humility is a practice." Chills!! Enjoy, kind listener.Resources:Coby Lund on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coby-lund-43915955/Janet Lund on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janet-lund-a0a72614/Behavior Live: https://behaviorlive.com/Archer Behavioral Health: https://archerbehavioral.com/Agile & Scrum Methodology: https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/4987-what-is-agile-scrum-methodology.htmlBuilding Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Isaac exudes the humility that comes only from a profound degree of wisdom and learning accumulated over the course of a career. I loved learning about his entrepreneurial & intrapreneurial stories, the founding of the Latino Association of Behavior Analysts, his "Mentorlologist" origin story and so much more. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources:Mentorologists: https://youtube.com/@MentorologistMentorologist/CEU videos: https://brettdassociates.com/continuing-education/Latino Association of Behavior Analysts:https://www.instagram.com/mentorologist/https://www.laba-aba.comhttps://brettdassociates.com/california/Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Rebecca is like-mindedly passionate about all things compliance ... and is an expert in Tricare and what it take to build robust compliance regimes for your payers. She shares my conviction that "winter is coming" for our field if you don't invest in compliance. The good news? She shares some deeply insightful frameworks for how to prepare. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources:Rebecca on ...>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-womack-52189737/>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004605044887TONS of articles & resources in this Google Drive folder:https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/0AH0-xx1RzWaHUk9PVABuilding Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Dr. Merahn is a breath of fresh air! He knows value-based care because he's helped build some of the first Accountable Care Organization's ... and he gets ABA as both a pediatrician and as a visionary for what our future field will look like. He's the kind of guest I love: bold, strongly opinionated about clinical quality, and with the experience to back it up. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources:Dr. Steven Merahn online:https://merahn.com/Steven's artwork! https://www.merahn.net/Lucile Packard Foundation National Standards for Systems of Care for Children and Youth with Special Health Care Needs : https://www.lpfch.org/publication/standards-systems-care-children-and-youth-special-health-care-need...Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

Tiffany co-founded the FIRST Neurodiversity Chamber of Commerce in the US, right here in Colorado. I was fortunate to attend their launch event in September 2022 and Tiffany and I catch up about why these are so important to our community (spoiler alert: it's about making ours a more neurodiverse-friendly world). She's also the founder of Guiding Bright Minds and has built an extraordinary community of like-minded providers through it. Enjoy, kind listener!Resources>Tiffany on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-feingold-9b2b983/>Guiding Bright Minds: https://www.guidingbrightminds.com/>Colorado Neurodiversity Chamber of Commerce: https://www.cndcc.org/Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

As the founder of Intentionality, Finnian leads events and retreats inspiring attendees to connect deeply with their businesses and themselves.  He’s a lifelong learner with degrees in math, physics, finance, leadership, and teaching as well as a retired Australian Defense Force Officer. Finnian’s work with individuals, teams and underprivileged communities has been featured on National Geographic, Business Insider, Forbes, Sky Business, ABC, Smart Company, and more.Dr. David Hawkins publicationsIntentionality resources from Finnian Kelly to get you started: Finniankelly.com/podcastsBuilding Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...