

Knowledge for Teachers
Brendan Lee
In the Knowledge for Teachers podcast, host Brendan Lee will be chatting to researchers, teachers and experts about what evidence-informed education is and the nuances involved with actually implementing effective and sustainable school based education.
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Oct 25, 2025 • 1h 8min
S03E17 - From Intervention to Inclusion: Sarah Asome on Making Every Tier Count
In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Sarah Asome, principal of Bentleigh West Primary School and award-winning educator known for her leadership in evidence-based practice. Together, they unpack what Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) really looks like in action beyond buzzwords and flowcharts. Sarah shares how her school aligns Tier 1 teaching, intervention and extension to ensure every student thrives, not just those who struggle. Listeners will hear how Bentleigh West’s team uses data to drive decisions, keeps variance low across classrooms, and extends students at the top through what Sarah calls a “diamond model” of support. This episode offers a practical, whole-school view of MTSS, one grounded in strong leadership, clear systems, and a belief that consistency creates equity.
Resources mentioned:
DIBELS (Dynamic Indicators of Basic Early Literacy Skills)
Spelling Mastery
The Writing Revolution (Judith Hochman & Natalie Wexler)
Letters Course (Language Essentials for Teachers of Reading and Spelling – LETRS)
Story Champs
Reading Doctor Program (Flinders University)
Times Tables Rock Stars
New Wave Mental Maths
Core Knowledge Curriculum
Response to Intervention (RTI) Diamond model
Anita Archer – Explicit Instruction
Endowment Foundation research (Education Endowment Foundation, on education support and learned helplessness)
Victorian Lesson Plans
You can connect with Sarah:
Twitter/X: @SarahAsome
Linkedin: @sarah-asome
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Website: learnwithlee.net
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast
About Sarah Asome
Sarah Asome is a highly experienced educator and the current Principal at Bentleigh West Primary School. She has also worked in the UK and Singapore. Sarah has been instrumental leading the change at BWPS but also been able to support many colleagues State, Nationwide and in New Zealand to implement evidence-based literacy instruction in their schools. This has led to a significant increase in literacy and numeracy levels which now places BWPS as a high performing school. Recently, Sarah was part of the team working on ten Victorian Lesson Plans for Primary English including text units, spelling and grammar and punctuation.
In 2015, Sarah was awarded ‘Outstanding Primary Teacher’ in the Victorian Education Excellence Awards. She has appeared in “Outside the Square ‘a DVD resource for teachers and in 2017 was featured on SBS Insight – ‘A Teacher Who Changed My Life’. Sarah has completed numerous courses including Louisa Moat’s LETRS training, Dyslexia Action (UK) and is a Certified Dyslexia, Reading and Orton-Gillingham specialist and trainer for Australia (OGI international inc). Recently, Sarah completed her Masters in Instructional Leadership at Melbourne University.
In 2023, Bentleigh West Primary School won the Victorian Education Excellence Award (VEEA) for ‘Outstanding Inclusion Education’.
Evidence in Action: The Primary Maths Partnership
A long-term professional learning partnership built around what actually works.
This 24 month program provides schools with 20+ hours of structured professional learning grounded in the science of learning spaced out over time — including explicit instruction, daily reviews, fluency-building, and problem-solving.
We work together to create a practical, sustainable implementation plan — so what you learn becomes what you do.
Optional Add-ons:
✓ Lesson modelling
✓ Leadership implementation sessions
✓ Coaching and feedback cycles
✓ Ongoing Q&A or online check-ins
Learn more > brendan@learnwithlee.net

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Oct 4, 2025 • 1h 35min
S03E16 - Kate Jones on Making Retrieval Practice Work in the Classroom
Join Kate Jones, an educational author specializing in retrieval practice, as she reveals how forgetting is a natural part of learning. She shares practical strategies to make retrieval a classroom habit, including scaffolding questions and creative activities like walkabout bingo. Kate emphasizes the importance of feedback that sticks and how memory concepts can empower students. Explore the transformative effects of spaced practice and discover tools for fostering student ownership of study habits, all while supporting diverse success pathways for women in education.

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Sep 13, 2025 • 1h 14min
S03E15 - Anna Stokke on on Cutting Through the Noise in Maths Education
Anna Stokke, a Professor at the University of Winnipeg and host of the Chalk and Talk podcast, dives deep into the world of maths education. She shares her journey advocating for evidence-informed teaching practices. Topics include debunking misleading research, the importance of fluency beyond speed, and the dangers of prioritizing engagement over actual learning. Anna also offers practical teaching strategies, like cover-copy-compare and spaced retrieval, to help students build confidence and tackle complex maths effectively.

Aug 23, 2025 • 1h 28min
S03E14 - Close Reading Simplified with Christopher Such
In this episode, Brendan Lee is joined once again by Christopher Such—teacher, author, and one of the most practical voices in reading instruction. His new book, Primary Reading Simplified, takes the research on how children learn to read and shows us what it actually looks like in the classroom.
This conversation zooms in on one of the trickiest areas for teachers: close reading. Chris explains why it doesn’t need to feel intimidating, how to plan lessons that spark genuine discussion, and the misconceptions that often trip schools up. He also shares three simple reading lesson structures that can bring clarity and balance to your literacy block, along with practical tips for asking purposeful questions that help students think more deeply about texts.
If you’ve ever wondered how to make close reading purposeful, achievable, and enjoyable, this episode will give you the clarity and confidence to make it work.
Resources mentioned:
Primary Reading Simplified (Christopher Such’s latest book)
The Art and Science of Teaching Primary Reading (Christopher Such’s earlier book)
Bringing Words to Life by Beck, McKeown, and Kucan
Scarborough’s Reading Rope
The Reading Comprehension Blueprint by Nancy Hennessy
The Writing Revolution by Judith Hochman and Natalie Wexler
Reading Reconsidered by Doug Lemov, Colleen Driggs, and Erica Woolway
The EEF (Education Endowment Foundation) Guidance Report on Improving Literacy
Timothy Shanahan
Timothy Rasinski
Aidan Chambers
You can connect with Chris:
Twitter: @Suchmo83
Linkedin
Website: https://primarycolour.home.blog/
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft
Website: learnwithlee.net
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast
About Chris
Christopher Such is a primary teacher, school leader, and author based in the UK, best known for his ability to make the science of reading accessible and practical for classroom teachers. His first book, The Art and Science of Teaching Primary Reading, has become a go-to resource for educators wanting to bridge research and practice. His latest book, Primary Reading Simplified, builds on that work—offering clear, classroom-ready structures for teaching reading beyond phonics, including fluency, extended reading, and close reading.
Drawing on years of experience teaching across primary year levels and working with schools around the world, Chris is passionate about helping teachers cut through the noise and focus on what truly helps children become confident, capable readers.

Aug 2, 2025 • 1h 33min
S03E13 - A Learner’s Toolkit for Students and Teachers with Dr. Vicky Leighton and Dr. Terry Byers
In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Dr. Vicky Leighton and Dr. Terry Byers from Churchie (Anglican Church Grammar School) and they share how they’re bringing the science of learning to life in real classrooms for both students and teachers.
We dive into their work on A Learner’s Toolkit, explore why teacher clarity matters more than ever and unpack a groundbreaking PD model that’s personal, contextual, and actually sticks. Plus, Terry brings the analogies including a surprisingly fitting comparison between cows and the science of learning!
Whether you’re leading change across a school or just trying to sharpen your practice, this episode is full of insight, laughter and plenty to think about.
Resources mentioned:
A Learner’s Toolkit (ALT) – for students and teachers
TRIM Framework
Sarah Cottinghat
Dr. Tom Perry
John Dunlosky
John Hattie
The impact of a preparatory science of learning intervention in secondary schools contexts in Australia
Research into practice: from blueprint to jigsaw
ResearchEd - A Matter of Translation
Friday, 5 September 2025
Anglican Church Grammar School
Keynote Speakers
Dr Carl Hendricks (Live from the UK)
Professor Daniel Willingham (Live from the USA)
Professor Tanya Serry (in person)
Brendan Lee will also be presenting!
You can connect with Vicky:
Twitter: @victorialynne99
Linkedin
Website: alearnerstoolkit.com.au
Youtube
You can connect with Terry:
Twitter: @tezzabyers
Linkedin
Website: alearnerstoolkit.com.au
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft
Website: learnwithlee.net
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

Jul 12, 2025 • 1h 22min
S03E12 - Daniel Ansari on Number Sense, Fluency and Understanding Math Difficulties
Join Professor Daniel Ansari, a leading cognitive neuroscientist and Canada Research Chair at Western University, as he explores the intricacies of children's number sense development. He discusses the significance of symbolic understanding and shares strategies to cultivate arithmetic fluency without causing anxiety. Daniel also dives into concepts like dyscalculia, spatial reasoning's influence on math success, and the connections between dyslexia and dyscalculia. This conversation is packed with practical insights for educators working with young learners.

Jun 21, 2025 • 1h 21min
S03E11 - Know Thy Purpose: Jocelyn Seamer on Transforming 3–6 Literacy
In this episode, I’m joined by Jocelyn Seamer—educational consultant, author, and leading voice in structured literacy—to unpack what effective literacy instruction really looks like in the upper primary years. We dive into how to move beyond levelled texts and strategy-heavy comprehension lessons, and instead build a literacy block grounded in rich texts, explicit instruction, and purposeful writing.
Jocelyn shares practical advice on everything from planning with backward design, to teaching spelling through morphology, to managing cognitive load with the “stretchy band” analogy. Whether you’re trying to make sense of guided reading, support struggling readers, or link reading and writing more effectively, this episode is packed with clarity and actionable ideas.
Key topics include:
Replacing levelled texts with rich, age-appropriate reading
Designing integrated, text-based units that link reading and writing
Explicit vocabulary and background knowledge instruction
The role of syntax, spelling, and morphology in building strong writers
Responsive teaching and avoiding the “dress rehearsal” trap in assessments
A must-listen for any Year 3–6 teacher ready to teach literacy with more clarity, purpose, and impact.
Resources mentioned:
Reading Reconsidered – Doug Lemov
Five Plagues of the Developing Reader – from Reading Reconsidered
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe – C.S. Lewis
Velveteen Rabbit – Margery Williams
Rose Meets Mr. Wintergarten – Bob Graham
The Lost Thing – Shaun Tan
Bringing Words to Life – Beck, McKeown & Kucan
Questioning the Author – Beck, McKeown & Sandora
DIBELS and Acadience – normed reading screeners
Motif – free assessments
Kenn Apel’s morphology assessments
Jared Cooney Horvath
You can connect with Jocelyn:
Linkedin
Facebook: @JocelynSeamerEducation
Youtube: @JocelynSeamerEducation
Podcast: The Structured Literacy Podcast
Website: www.jocelynseamereducation.com/
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Website: learnwithlee.net
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast
About
Jocelyn Seamer is a former teacher, tutor and school leader who has experienced, first-hand, the transformative power of evidence-based practice in literacy instruction. She has led teams to grow and develop school policy and practice to reflect the vast body of evidence that makes up the Science of Reading.
Through her own classroom practice and leadership roles in schools, Jocelyn has developed a strong understanding of how you can take simple, yet effective action to get every child on the road to literacy proficiency in the first years of school. Jocelyn feels a very personal responsibility to provide opportunities for classroom teachers to have access to the information and training they need to change children's lives and looks forward to helping you achieve great things in your teaching practice.
Read more on Jocelyn Seamer Education.
🎯 Struggling to know whether to model again or move on?
You’re not alone — and this course is for you.
Effective Primary Maths Teaching is my live, two-day online course designed to help you stop second-guessing and start teaching with clarity and purpose.
Across two highly practical days, I’ll walk you through:
✅ When and why to use explicit instruction, word problems, fluency tasks, and more
✅ How to align your teaching with student readiness
✅ The nuts and bolts of effective daily reviews, worked examples, and fluency practice
✅ A practical framework to help you teach responsively — not reactively
Everything’s grounded in the science of learning, backed by real classroom examples, and designed so you can take action straight away. You’ll leave with a workbook, an action plan, and the confidence to use it all on Monday.
🗓️ Dates:
Day 1 – Monday 4 August 2025 (9am–3pm AET)
Day 2 – Monday 1 September 2025 (9am–3pm AET)
🖥️ Live online (with recordings) | 🧠 10 hours total | 💲 $299
Whether you’re a teacher wanting clarity or a leader building consistency, this is the course people tell me they wish they’d done years ago.
▶️ Register now: events.humanitix.com/effective-primary-maths-teaching
The last one sold out — don’t miss out.

Jun 7, 2025 • 1h 38min
S03E10 - Grattan Institute’s Maths Guarantee Report with Amy Haywood & Nick Parkinson
In this episode of the Knowledge for Teachers podcast, I speak with Amy Haywood and Nick Parkinson, co-authors of the Grattan Institute’s Maths Guarantee report. We unpack what they describe as Australia’s “national problem” with maths underperformance — from the equity gaps to the urgent need for high-quality curriculum materials and teacher support.
Amy and Nick share key findings from their research, including a national teacher survey and international case studies, as well as practical insights from some of Australia’s most effective schools. We dive deep into what explicit instruction really looks like, the power of fluency, and how the instructional hierarchy can help teachers better sequence their maths lessons.
Whether you're a school leader, instructional coach, or passionate teacher, this conversation will leave you with clarity, evidence, and next steps to improve maths teaching in your school.
Resources mentioned:
The Maths Guarantee (Grattan Institute report)
The Maths Guarantee: A guide for principals (Grattan Institute)
Teach Like a Champion – Doug Lemov
Teaching Primary Mathematics – George Booker
Eddie Wu
Craig Barton
Ochre Education
PR1ME International
EAST materials
Maths Olympiad
Times Tables Rock Stars
James Dobson - From Research to Reality: A Primary Maths Resource Toolkit
The schools they visited for case studies were:
Wattle Grove Primary, a government school in suburban Perth
Bentleigh West Primary, a government school in suburban Melbourne
Ballarat Clarendon College, an independent school in regional Victoria
St Bernard’s Primary, a Catholic school in Batemans Bay on the NSW south coast
Charlestown South Public, a government school in Newcastle, NSW
The Entrance Public, a government school on the NSW central coast
Budgewoi Public, a government school also on the NSW central coast
The final three schools are part of the Explicit and Systematic Teaching (EAST) network, a grassroots network which exists to champion explicit teaching in NSW government schools
You can connect with Amy:
Twitter/X: @Amy_L_Haywood
You can connect with Nick:
Twitter/X: @NickJParkinson
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Website: learnwithlee.net
About
Amy Haywood
Amy Haywood is the Deputy Program Director of Grattan’s Education Program. Amy has a background as an educator and brings this practical experience to her work as an education policy researcher. She is the co-author of several Grattan reports, including Ending the lesson lottery: How to improve curriculum planning in schools, The Reading Guarantee: How to give every child the best chance of success, Spreading success: Why Australia should trial multi-school organisations, and The Maths Guarantee: How to boost students’ learning in primary schools.
Amy taught English in secondary schools for five years. During this time, she presented at statewide teaching conferences and wrote several study guides for Macmillan Education. Before joining Grattan, Amy worked as a manager in Deloitte Access Economics’ Education Policy team, where she led schooling projects focused on system design, workforce reform, and teaching practice.
Amy has a Bachelor of Arts and Master of Teaching from the University of Melbourne. As part of her postgraduate degree, she studied international education policy while on exchange at the University of Oulo in Finland. She is a registered teacher.
Nick Parkinson
Nick is a Senior Associate in Grattan’s Education Program, where he has co-authored reports on whole-school curriculum, multi-school organisation, and primary maths. He also contributed to reports on catch-up tutoring and early reading. Through this research, Nick has conducted case studies of nearly 30 leading schools and analysed more than 5,000 teacher survey results.
Nick holds a Master of Teaching from the Melbourne Graduate School of Education. Before studying teaching, Nick completed a Bachelor of Arts and a Diploma of Languages at the University of Melbourne. He is a 2022 Westpac Future Leader.
Before joining Grattan, Nick worked as a consultant at Nous Group where he contributed to projects on school culture, student assessment, and occupational safety.
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast
🎯 Struggling to know whether to model again or move on?
You’re not alone — and this course is for you.
Effective Primary Maths Teaching is my live, two-day online course designed to help you stop second-guessing and start teaching with clarity and purpose.
Across two highly practical days, I’ll walk you through:
✅ When and why to use explicit instruction, word problems, fluency tasks, and more
✅ How to align your teaching with student readiness
✅ The nuts and bolts of effective daily reviews, worked examples, and fluency practice
✅ A practical framework to help you teach responsively — not reactively
Everything’s grounded in the science of learning, backed by real classroom examples, and designed so you can take action straight away. You’ll leave with a workbook, an action plan, and the confidence to use it all on Monday.
🗓️ Dates:
Day 1 – Monday 4 August 2025 (9am–3pm AET)
Day 2 – Monday 1 September 2025 (9am–3pm AET)
🖥️ Live online (with recordings) | 🧠 10 hours total | 💲 $299
Whether you’re a teacher wanting clarity or a leader building consistency, this is the course people tell me they wish they’d done years ago.
▶️ Register now: events.humanitix.com/effective-primary-maths-teaching
The last one sold out — don’t miss out.

May 24, 2025 • 1h 23min
S03E9 - Making sense of the science of reading with Mandy Nayton
In this episode of Knowledge for Teachers, Brendan Lee sits down with Mandy Nayton — CEO of the Dyslexia-SPELD Foundation and president of AUSPELD — for a deep and timely conversation about how students really learn to read.
Mandy draws on decades of experience to unpack what the science of reading actually is (and what it isn’t), why explicit instruction matters, and how effective intervention can change the trajectory for struggling students.
They explore key frameworks like the Simple View of Reading, Scarborough’s Reading Rope, and the Cognitive Foundations Framework — and dig into DSF’s new Word Origins program, designed to transform how spelling is taught in Years 3–6 by building deep morphological and etymological knowledge.
Whether you're just starting to explore structured literacy or you're leading change in your school, this conversation is packed with insight, clarity, and practical takeaways.
🎧 Listen now and explore how teacher knowledge is the most powerful tool we have to improve literacy outcomes.
Resources mentioned:
Word Origins
Literacy Frameworks & Models
Simple View of Reading (Gough & Tunmer)
Scarborough’s Reading Rope
Cognitive Foundations Framework (Hoover & Tunmer)
Dehaene’s Four Pillars of Learning
Instructional & Program Resources
DSF’s Word Origins Program
Direct Instruction Phonics Manual
Others
Kathy Rastle
National Reading Panel (2000)
Reid Lyon
John Hattie
You can connect with Mandy:
Twitter/X: @mandynayton
Facebook: @dyslexiaspeld
Linkedin
Website: https://dsf.net.au/
You can connect with Brendan:
Twitter: @learnwithmrlee
Facebook: @learningwithmrlee
Website: learnwithlee.net
Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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May 10, 2025 • 1h 48min
S03E08 - Craig Barton on Becoming a Better Maths Teacher
Join Craig Barton, a renowned maths educator and best-selling author, as he shares his insights from years of teaching and observing classrooms. He discusses the power of diagnostic questions and tools like mini whiteboards for assessing student understanding. Craig reflects on his evolution in teaching methodologies, emphasizing tailored approaches that enhance student engagement. Discover the importance of 'intelligent practice' and the concept of atomization to simplify complex ideas. His experiences offer valuable lessons for educators seeking to improve their craft.


