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In recent years, Michael McLean has encountered profound lessons about a father’s love. Although seemingly a shining light of optimism and success known for his work in the Latter-day Saint film and music space, McLean grappled with chronic depression, fostering self-doubt for an extended period. Nearly two decades ago, when his son came out and conveyed discontent about his upbringing, McLean's deepest insecurities seemed validated. Moreover, the silence from a perceived absence of God amplified his distress. On this week’s episode, we discuss McLean’s Forgotten Carols but, more importantly, how a loving Father never forgets His son. “The Atonement is not some cool thing that happened back in Gethsemane. It’s ongoing. He’s not stopping His work until He’s got us all healed—until He’s brought us all home.” —Michael McLean Show Notes 2:10- What Could’ve Been the End 12:59- Depression and the Forgotten Carols 18:44- Mr. Krueger’s Christmas 31:57- When God Seems Quiet 36:34- Two Fathers 48:42- “Let Him In” 51:51- What Does It Mean To Be All In? Links: The Forgotten Carols Michael’s video for the Church “Let Him In” “Mr. Krueger’s Christmas” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It was considered one of the biggest snubs of the Women’s World Cup in 2023. Ashley Hatch has been around the United States Women’s National Team since 2016, and even played in multiple games for the national team in 2023. And yet, when the roster for the Women’s World Cup team was released, Ashley’s name wasn’t on it. The tough thing is that, like many disappointments in life, Ashley doesn’t really have an answer for why it didn’t work out the way she’d hoped. She does, however, recognize that she has the power to choose how she responds to that disappointment. “It’s an opportunity to either lean into your faith, lean into your testimony, or it’s an opportunity to lean away or push it away.” —Ashley Hatch Links & References: World Cup snubs The latest on Ashley’s Olympic hopes Temple open house story See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chad and Cherisse Lunt’s life took an unexpected turn when they welcomed their third child, Lucy, into the world. Unbeknownst to her parents, Lucy was born with a severe neuromuscular condition known as spinal muscular atrophy (SMA). At the time of her diagnosis, Lucy wasn’t expected to live beyond her second birthday but just last month, she ordered all the supplies, sent all the invites, and threw her own 15th birthday party. “Weirdly enough, I’ll be a little sad [in the resurrection] because I won’t have my girl to hold or take care of.” —Chad Lunt Show Notes  1:56- Diagnosis and Prognosis 8:00- Why Not Us? 12:13- A Mother’s Care 15:10- Lucy Today 21:31- Advocating For Another 23:08- Quality of Life 25:35- Ministering in the Savior’s Way 33:42- Siblings Who Know the Plan 38:30 Why Serve Outside the Home? 41:55- Hope of a Resurrection 46:07- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Links & References:  Cherisse’s Instagram documents the Lunts’ journey with Lucy See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Remembering those who have gone before us and recognizing that death is not the end—these are critical aspects of our faith as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are also at the core of the celebration known in Hispanic culture as Día de los Muertos. On this week’s episode, we learn more about how this celebration intersects with faith and tradition, and reminds us of the eternal nature of our family bonds. “If we were just to learn about all of the experiences that the Nephites had with our Savior Jesus Christ—if we were to pass that down and we were to believe it and put it into action in our lives, we would be better people and we would have a better connection with our Savior so that’s why I think our ancestors are so important to celebrate.” —Shiegrid Hernandez Show Notes 1:47- Growing Up in Mexico 6:13- Challenges of Coming to America 8:44- Embracing Latino Culture 10:37- A Recognizable Book 14:32- Honoring Ancestors 18:52- What Is Dia De Los Muertos? 22:24- Why the Skulls and Skeletons? 25:48- Symbolism in the Ofrenda 33:12- The Temple as a Latina Latter-day Saint 36:37- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

McKay Coppins began covering Mitt Romney during the 2012 presidential race and because the two shared a common faith as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, other reporters often looked to McKay, a very young journalist at the time, as a source on Romney’s religion. Over a decade later, Coppins’ new biography profiles the Latter-day Saints’ life and career in the public sphere. In anticipation of the book’s release, we talk with Coppins on today’s episode about the faith that is deeply embedded into both he and Romney’s lives.  Show Notes  2:08- Varied Latter-day Saint Characters 5:04- “I’m Actually a Member of This Church” 7:27- Folding Into Faith 11:27- The Latter-day Saint on the Campaign Trail 16:22- Sharing Faith in a Secular Biography 22:24- Refusal to Denounce Faith 28:50- A Young Missionary in France 35:24- More To Your Life Than Making Money 40:38- The Worth of Integrity 45:21- By Their Fruits 49:10- Legacy 53:03- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?  “I realized in that moment that I could do both. I didn’t have to pretend like I wasn’t a Latter-day Saint to be a good reporter and I didn’t have to be a bad reporter to be a good Latter-day Saint. I could do all of it and I wasn’t going to set aside my faith.” —McKay Coppins  Links & References:  Romney: A Reckoning biography  Romney on CBS News See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Osmonds reached what was arguably the peak of their fame in 1973. That year, the band made what many considered an interesting decision and released The Plan, a landmark album that explored the eternal nature of God’s plan and the role of Jesus Christ in salvation. Alan Osmond almost always sang backup vocals but, as the oldest of the Osmond brothers, was in many ways the leader of the brothers’ group and the writer of many of the Osmonds’ songs. In this episode, Alan shares the inspiration behind The Plan as we celebrate the 50-year anniversary of the album.  “We’re not ashamed of the gospel and that’s why I just can’t be quiet about it.”  Show Notes 1:46- Beginnings 8:10- Sharing the Gospel Through Music 14:31- A Rock Opera  28:06- Osmondmania 34:59- Support of the Church 41:48- Multiple Sclerosis 47:51- Elvis and the Queen 49:57- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?  Links & References: Listen to “The Plan” album in full The Plan Promo video LDS Living stories about The Osmonds See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Latter-day Saint scholar Rosalynde Welch has been involved in two recent projects that may, on the surface, seem very different. One, ushering the last words of a beloved friend through to publication after the friend’s passing, and the other, an exploration of words written in holy scripture two millennia ago. And yet, on this week’s episode, we explore how both books capture the power of a woman’s witness of Jesus Christ. Show Notes 2:19- Contrast Between Two Books 6:50- Who is Kate Holbrook? 17:51- Housework and Motherhood 22:56- Legacy 26:54- The Gospels of Abish and Mary 30:41- 1 Nephi 11 35:18- A Nativity Story 39:18- Witnesses of Christ “In the two beams of the cross—those are never going to be made parallel with each other. They are always going to be at cross purposes to one another and, as disciples, we’re called to take up our cross. And sometimes that means having the patience and the largeness of mind and heart to live with two things that are true but not easily reconciled.” Links & References: Both Things Are True book Seven Gospels book Kate Holbrook and Samuel Brown - All In Faith Matters - Kate Holbrook Morgan’s tribute to Kate Holbrook See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sy Snarr’s son, Zachary Snarr, was a senior in high school when he was shot and killed by a complete stranger. After 17 years in prison, Jorge Benvenuto, the man who killed Zachary, wrote a letter to tell the Snarr family that he was sorry for taking their 18-year-old son and brother’s life. What happened next captivated listeners of KSL’s “The Letter” podcast and, on this week’s episode of “All In,” we explore the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ that is woven throughout the Snarr family's remarkable example of forgiveness.  Show Notes 2:34- Before 3:57- Regret 7:15- The Bind of Bitterness 12:45- Who Hate Hurts 15:47- You Have To Want It 18:12- The Sacrament Talk That Changed Everything 20:38- Losing a Second Son 23:29- The Very Real Pain of Loss 25:51- Jorge 32:21- Since the Letter 36:34- Atonement For All 40:34- A Spiritual Experience 43:50- What Does It Mean To Be All in? “My soul was tortured, it was broken with this anguish I carried…and the way you [forgive] is you fight back, you turn to God, you turn to the Savior, you pray a lot and let Them guide you.” —Sy Snarr Links & References:  Listen to The Letter podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brandon Pak seemed to be on the path to achieving what he’d always wanted: He was a student at Berklee College of Music, he’d opened for Pentatonix and had recently performed as a backup singer for Charlie Puth. And yet, he’d never felt more empty. So, he wandered into the church he’d attended but left as a young man. On this week's episode, we talk with Brandon about finding greater purpose than he could've imagined through the gospel of Jesus Christ. Show Notes 1:45- A Place To Call Home 5:17- Church Starts and Stops 11:37- Berklee or BYU 16:50- Empty 22:01- Three Months 26:30- Getting to Serve 34-02- Music and Missionary Work 36:15- Processing Through Songwriting 39:36- Worth It To Save 42:45- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? “I knew what it felt like to be lost and to find the gospel and what type of worth that gave me as a person…and I wanted other people to have that.” —Brandon Pak Links & Reference: Listen to Brandon Pak’s new single, “Worth Saving” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emma Nissen, a vocal performance major, overcame a vocal cord injury and followed a prompting to serve a mission. She shares her journey of sharing her music in unexpected ways. The podcast also explores the importance of faith, trust, and love in relationships, and the power of inviting the Spirit into our lives.