
CaSE: Conversations about Software Engineering
Conversations about Software Engineering (CaSE) is a podcast for software engineers about technology, software engineering, software architecture, reliability engineering, and data engineering. The three of us regularly come together to discuss recent events or articles, exchange on our learnings, and reflect on our professional and personal experiences. Additionally our guest episodes feature engaging conversations with interesting people from the world of software engineering.
Latest episodes

Oct 4, 2021 • 49min
Michele Hansen on Customer Interviews and Deploying Empathy
Joy Heron talks with Michele Hansen about customer interviews
Deploy Empathy
Practical Empathy by Indi Young
Service Design by Andy Polaine, Ben Reason, and Lavrans Løvlie
The User Experience Team of One by Leah Buley
Inspired by Marty Cagan
The Voice of the Customer, 1993 research paper by Abbie Griffin and John R. Hauser
Clayton Christensen books
Lean Customer Development by Cindy Alvarez
Brené Brown
Deploy Empathy Newsletter
Software Social Podcast

Jun 21, 2021 • 1h 37min
Eric Normand on Functional Thinking
Lucas Dohmen talks with Eric Normand
Eric's homepage
Grokking Simplicity
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Chapter Marks:
00:00:15 Introduction
00:06:10 Functional Thinking
00:19:27 Calculations, Actions, Events
00:26:56 Concurrency and Immutability
00:37:05 Immutable Facts and GDPR
00:40:46 Object Oriented and Functional Programming
00:59:30 Type System
01:25:11 Learning from other communities

Jun 1, 2021 • 55min
Nicolas Steenhout on Accessibility
Stefan interviews Nicolas Steenhout on Accessibility
Nic’s web page
“A11y Rules” podcast
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.1
W3C Web Accessibility Initiative
CaSE episode on Responsible Web Applications with Joy Heron
NVDA screen reader
Web Accessibility in Mind

May 10, 2021 • 1h 15min
Joy Heron on Responsible Web Applications
Lucas Dohmen talks with Joy Heron
Responsible Web App
Joy interviews Rachel Andrew
Andy Bell Tweet on Progressive Enhancement
Blog Post: A minimum viable experience makes for a resilient, inclusive website or app
Blog Post: The 100% correct way to do CSS breakpoints
Status of Container Queries in Chrome
Spacy

May 3, 2021 • 1h 17min
Alex Bramley on The Art of SLO, Part 3
Alex Bramley continuous his conversation with Sven Johann
SRE Workbook
Implementing Service Level Objectives by Alex Hidalgo
The Calculus of Service Availability
Art of SLO Workshop)
Google Customer Reliability Engineering blog
Consequences of SLO violations
Applying the escalation policy
An example escalation policy
Chapters:
[00:00:15.00] Welcome and intro
[00:01:12.00] Measurement granularity
[00:12:43.00] Error Budget Policy
[00:32:44.00] Burn rate
[00:49:24.00] Iterating on SLIs, SLOs, error budget policies
[00:55:41.00] Alerting
[01:16:35.00] Outro

Apr 26, 2021 • 56min
Alex Bramley on The Art of SLO, Part 2
Alex Bramley continuous his conversation with Sven Johann
SRE Workbook
Implementing Service Level Objectives by Alex Hidalgo
The Calculus of Service Availability
Art of SLO Workshop)
Google Customer Reliability Engineering blog
Consequences of SLO violations
Applying the escalation policy
An example escalation policy
Chapter Marks
00:00:15 Welcome and intro
00:01:48 Dealing with internal dependencies
00:05:59 Dealing with external dependencies
00:08:33 Dependency trees
00:20:16 SLO communication, teaching and buy-in
00:28:48 How to measure
00:47:34 Measurement windows
00:52:02 SLO Reporting
00:54:39 Outro

Apr 19, 2021 • 1h 11min
Alex Bramley on The Art of SLO, Part 1
Alex Bramley talks to Sven Johann about the basics of service level objectives
SRE Workbook
Implementing Service Level Objectives by Alex Hidalgo
The Calculus of Service Availability
Art of SLO Workshop)
Google Customer Reliability Engineering blog
Consequences of SLO violations
Applying the escalation policy
An example escalation policy
Chapters:
00:00:15 Welcome and intro
00:02:14 Terminology: SLI, SLO, SLA
00:09:05 Cost of a (cloud provider) outage
00:11:22 Reliability and customers happiness
00:20:19 Error Budgets
00:26:31 100% reliability is the wrong target
00:37:44 Collecting data
00:54:31 Latency SLIs
01:09:53 Outro

Mar 29, 2021 • 48min
Simon Brown on Software Architecture
Stefan talks with Simon Brown
GOTO Book club episodes:
Software Architecture for Software Developers
Why Architectural Work Comes before Coding
Simon Brown’s website
SEI in Practice (Len Bass, Paul Clements, Rick Kazman)
Agile Manifesto
Simon’s books
Structurizr
Fundamentals of Software Architecture (Neal Ford, Mark Richards)
Gregor Hohpe The Software Architect Elevator
Michael Keeling "Design It"
George Fairbanks' "Just Enough Software Architecture"
Eoin Woods and Nick Rozanski's book "Software Systems Architecture"

Mar 1, 2021 • 1h 30min
Eoin Woods on Bringing Systems into Production and Keeping them there
Sven Johann talks with Eoin Woods
Eoin’s book on software and systems architecture
Understanding quality attributes
Calculus of service availability
Release It
arc42 template for communicating software architecture
C4 model
Operational, the forgotten architecural view
Google Dapper, a large scale distributed tracing infrastructure
Learning from incidents
Organizing teams for flow
Chaos Engineering (Casey Rosenthal, Nora Jones)
Chaos Engineering (Russ Miles)
Site Reliability Engineering
Seeking SRE
Adrian Cockcroft on resiliency - learing from other disciplines
Cindy Sridharan, Distributed Systems Observability
Esther Derby, Diana Larson, Agile Retrospectives
Aino Corry, Retrospectives Anti Patterns

Jan 28, 2021 • 1h 1min
Christin Gorman on Why large projects fail and what to do about it
Stefan Tilkov talks with Christin Gorman
Christin’s employer
Christin on Twitter
History of Agile Software Development
“Seeing like a state” by James C. Scott
“Accelerate” by Nicole Forsgren et al
Government Digital Service
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