The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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May 9, 2025 • 38min
Beneath the Surface at COVE
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed David Perry sits down with Melanie Nadeau, the CEO of COVE. The two discuss the organization’s mandate, and where it fits within the wider defence marine ecosystem, it’s areas of focus, and how it works with businesses with an emphasis on some of their focus on dual-use technologies and their involvement with NATO DIANA.
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Guest bios:
- Melanie Nadeau is the CEO of COVE and is a Member of the Board of Directors for the QE II Foundation and BDC.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "Hidden Potential: The Science of Achieving Greater Things" by Adam Grant
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
9 May 2025

May 7, 2025 • 27min
A First Thought on Energy for the 45th Parliament
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly and Joe discuss their estimates for oil prices in May, new oil transportation infrastructure, and Joe's trip to the Christina Lake oil sands facility.
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Interview recording Date: May 6, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 5, 2025 • 30min
Uncovering "Waste Land"
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Robert Kaplan to discuss his new book "Waste Land: A World in Permanent Crisis".
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Participants' bios
Robert Kaplan is the bestselling author of twenty-three books on foreign affairs and travel translated into many languages, including Waste Land, The Loom of Time, The Tragic Mind, Adriatic, The Revenge of Geography, Asia’s Cauldron, The Coming Anarchy, and Balkan Ghosts. He holds the Robert Strausz-Hupé Chair in Geopolitics at the Foreign Policy Research Institute.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Waste Land: A World in Permanent Crisis" by Robert Kaplan
- "Kaplan’s ‘Waste Land’: Between a Bang and a Whimper" by Colin Robertson
- "The Greatest Short Stories of Leo Tolstoy" by Leo Tolstoy
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 30, 2025
Release date:
May 5, 2025

May 2, 2025 • 53min
Cold Waters and Steel Hulls
In the second episode of the National Shipbuilding Strategy series on it's 15th anniversary, David Perry sits down with Arianne Reza and Dirk Lesko to discuss the transition from building Arctic Offshore Patrol Ships (AOPS) to River-class Destroyers.
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Guest bios:
- Arianne Reza is the Deputy Minister for Public Services and Procurement Canada and oversees key government internal services as part of the work Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC). Arianne was previously the Associate Deputy Minister and Assistant Deputy Minister for Procurement at PSPC, the senior official responsible for federal procurement.
- Dirk Lesko is the President of Irving Shipbuilding. He was previously the Vice President of the General Dynamics Corporation and the 15th President of Bath Iron Works (BIW). Dirk also served as Chairman of the General Dynamics Engineering and Technology Council.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- “How to Train a Happy Mind: A Skeptic's Path to Enlightenment" by Scott Snibbe
- "No Trade Is Free: Changing Course, Taking on China, and Helping America's Workers" by Robert Lighthizer
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
2 May 2025

Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 6min
The Kazakh Crack in OPEC+
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk with Rory Johnston about the current trouble in OPEC+, demand woes for global recession, and what it could mean for Canadian energy.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the prospect of India-Pakistan war, economic downturn in China, the blackout in Spain, and first takeaways from the Canadian federal election.
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Guest Bio:
- Rory Johnston is a CGAI Fellow and the Founder of Commodity Context
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare", by Edward Fishman: https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/chokepoints-american-power-in-the-age-of-economic-warfare/9780593712979.html
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Interview recording Date: April 28, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 28, 2025 • 36min
Voting Down Under and Up North
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Former Australian High Commissioner to Canada, Scott Ryan. The duo dive into the major topic currently dominating headlines in both countries: the upcoming federal elections (set for April 28th in Canada and May 3rd in Australia). Scott breaks down the state of the Australian election and highlights key differences in electoral procedures between the two nations. Don’t forget to cast your vote today at your local polling station!
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Participants' bios
-Scott Ryan is the Former Australian High Commissioner to Canada. He was previously the President of the Australian Senate, Senator for the State of Victoria and Minister for the Turnbull Government under Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The End of an Era" by Mark Field
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 22, 2025
Release date:
April 28, 2025

Apr 25, 2025 • 35min
The Ballot Box Breakdown
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed Dave Perry sits down with Charlotte Duval-Lantoine, VP of the Ottawa Office at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, to discuss the Liberal and Conservative party platforms as they relate to defence. They begin by discussing the similarities of the pledge meet 2% of GDP across parties, access to the Eastern Arctic, recruitment in the CAF and the Canadian supply chain. We hope you enjoy the episode and remember to vote on Monday, 28th April.
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Guest bios:
- Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is the Vice President, Ottawa Operations and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, as well as Triple Helix's Executive Director and Gender Advisor. She is also a PhD Student at Deakin University, where she studies the influence the culture of the Canadian Army had on the killings of Somali civilians during Operation Deliverance.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- “Here is Hell: Canada's Engagement in Somalia" by Grant Dawson.
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
25 April 2025

Apr 23, 2025 • 60min
How the New Canadian PM should engage Trump on Energy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Eric Miller about Canada-US energy relations in the context of the current Canadian election.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the LPC and CPC costed platforms on energy.
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Guest Bio:
- Eric Miller is President of Rideau Potomac Strategy Group and a Fellow with CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Inside Asia", by John Gunther: https://www.minotavrosbooks.com/pages/books/007655/john-gunther/inside-asia
- "Selected Non-Fictions" by Jorge Luis Borges: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/331517/selected-non-fictions-by-jorge-luis-borges-edited-by-eliot-weinberger-translated-by-esther-allen-suzanne-jill-levine-and-eliot-weinberger/
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Interview recording Date: April 22, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 21, 2025 • 51min
A STEP into Saskatchewan Trade
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Angela Krauss and John Treleaven to discuss trade promotion and the experience of Saskatchewan Trade and Export Partnership, otherwise known as STEP.
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Participants' bios
-Angela Krauss is the Interim CEO and Senior Vice President of STEP. She leads the Marketing and Membership Development division with a focus on building membership and profiling their capabilities along with leading the marketing initiatives of the organization.
-John Treleaven is a career foreign services officer and trade commissioner. He formerly served as the Canadian Ambassador to the Philippines and was the former CEO and President of STEP.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The Premonition: A Pandemic Story" by Michael Lewis.
- "The Thursday Murder Club" series by Richard Osman.
Saskatchewan Trade and Export Partnership (STEP): www.sasktrade.ca
Forum for International Trade Training: www.fitt.ca
Rainhouse Manufacturing Canada Ltd. : www.rainhouse.com
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 17, 2025
Release date:
April 21, 2025

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Future of Canadian Defence: A Triple Helix Perspective
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed the Triple Helix team, David Perry, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine, Dr. Alexander Salt, Geordie Jeakins, Dr. Alexander Wilner, explore how current political dynamics, particularly ongoing elections, the evolving Canada–U.S. partnership, and advances in technology, are influencing the priorities and operations of the CAF and DND. Triple Helix is a network composed of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI), the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs (NPSIA) at Carleton University, and industry that explores how a range of emerging technologies intersect with defence.
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Guest bios:
- Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is the Vice President, Ottawa Operations and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, as well as Triple Helix's Executive Director and Gender Advisor. She is also a PhD Student at Deakin University, where she studies the influence the culture of the Canadian Army had on the killings of Somali civilians during Operation Deliverance.
- Dr. Alexander Salt has a PhD from the University of Calgary’s Centre for Military, Security and Strategic Studies and an MA in Political Studies from the University of Manitoba. His dissertation explores to what extent has the battlefield experience of the U.S. military influenced post-war organizational innovation.
- Dr. Alex Wilner is an Associate Professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs (NPSIA) and the Director of the Infrastructure Protection and International Security (IPIS) graduate program, at Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada.
- Geordie Jenkins is an Associate at Oliver Wyman, the leading global aerospace and defence advisory firm. In this role, Geordie advises clients in government-driven sectors in Canada, the United States, and NATO allies on a variety of issues.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- “Neuromancer” by William Gibson.
- “The Propagation Handbook: A guide to propagating houseplants” by Hilton Carter.
- “Foundation” by Isaac Asimov.
- “The Ones We Let Down: Toxic Leadership Culture and Gender Integration in the Canadian Forces” by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine.
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
18 April 2025


