
The CGAI Podcast Network
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Latest episodes

Jan 8, 2025 • 54min
Energy Security Cubed: Should Canada Double Down on Oil Exports to the US? Ft. Rory Johnston
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Rory Johnston about the recent announcement from the Government of Alberta and Enbridge in the context of a deteriorating relationship between Canada and the United States under the incoming Trump administration.
You can find Joe and Rory's paper here: https://www.cgai.ca/the_co_evolution_of_the_canada_us_oil_industry_and_possible_implications_of_donald_trumps_reelection
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the current status of Trump's trade threats and movements in North American utilities.
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Guest Bio:
- Rory Johnston is the founder of Commodity Context and a Fellow with CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "The Trading Game: A Confession", by Gary Stevenson: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/727417/the-trading-game-by-gary-stevenson/9780593828328
- "On the Edge: The Art of Risking Everything", by Nate Silver: https://www.amazon.ca/Edge-Art-Risking-Everything/dp/1594204128
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Interview recording Date: January 8, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jan 3, 2025 • 40min
The Global Exchange: Tariffs, Trade, and the Canada-US Border
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Matt Morrison and Tiffany Melvin about the Canada-US relationship under a new Trump administration and what it could mean for trade and the border.
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Participants' bios
- Matt Morrison serves as CEO of the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region
- Tiffany Melvin is President of North American Strategy for Competitiveness, Inc.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Differ We Must", Steve Inskeep: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670070/differ-we-must-by-steve-inskeep/
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Recording Date: December 18, 2024.

Jan 3, 2025 • 37min
Defence Deconstructed: Defence Industrial Base and the ICE Pact
On this week’s episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry talks about the ICE Pact, its strategic impetus and implications with William Henagan, Celina Ladyga, and Robert Obayda.
Guests:
William Henagan is Director for International Economics at the White House National Security Council
Celina Ladyga is Director of Maritime and Arctic Security at the White House National Security Council
Robert Obayda is Director for Critical Infrastructure and Investment at the White House National Security Council
Recorded on December 16, 2024
Music by Drew Phillips. Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Dec 31, 2024 • 1h 11min
Energy Security Cubed: Energy Security Year in Review 2024
On this special episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss major events in global and Canadian energy security in 2024, and what to watch for into the future.
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Guests:
10:31 - Dr. Ilia Bouchouev, former President of Koch Global Partners and an adjunct Professor at New York University.
17:05 - Jakob Larsen, Head of Maritime Safety & Security at international shipping association BIMCO.
22:51 - Trevor Tombe, Professor of Economics at the University of Calgary. Find Trevor's article for The Hub here: https://thehub.ca/2024/04/30/trevor-tombe-the-trans-mountain-pipeline-was-worth-every-penny/
30:11 - Scott Kennedy, Trustee Chair in Chinese Business and Economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
40:26 - RJ Johnston, Senior Director of Research at Columbia University's Center on Global Energy Policy
47:45 - Dan Ujczo, senior counsel in the International Trade and Transportation practice groups at Thompson Hine LLP.
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- Kelly Ogle is CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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What did Joe read in 2024?
- "War and Peace", Leo Tolstoy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/656.War_and_Peace
- "The Face of Battle: A Study of Agincourt, Waterloo, and the Somme", by John Keegan: https://www.amazon.com/Face-Battle-Study-Agincourt-Waterloo/dp/0140048979
- "Slow Horses", Mick Herron: https://www.amazon.ca/Slow-Horses-Deluxe-Mick-Herron/dp/1641292970
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What did Kelly read in 2024?
- "The Porcelain Moon: A Novel of France, the Great War, and Forbidden Love" by Janie Chang: https://www.amazon.com/Porcelain-Moon-Novel-France-Forbidden/dp/0063072866
- "Ascent to Power: How Truman Emerged from Roosevelt's Shadow and Remade the World", by David L. Roll: https://www.amazon.com/Ascent-Power-Truman-Emerged-Roosevelts/dp/0593186443
- "Takeover: Hitler's Final Rise to Power", by Timothy W. Ryback: https://www.amazon.com/Takeover-Hitlers-Final-Rise-Power/dp/0593537424
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Interview recording Date: December 31, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 27, 2024 • 59min
Defence Deconstructed: A SITREP on Defence Procurement
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Ian Brodie takes stock on the current state of procurement initiatives in Canada with Nancy Tremblay, Simon Page, and Richard Shimooka.
This episode is a recording from our Procurement conference, which took place on November 25, 2024 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics and Hanwha Defence and Ocean, and our conference sponsors the Business Council of Canada, Raytheon, L3Harris Technologies, the Royal Norwegian Embassy to Canada, Amazon Web Services, Davie, and CAE.
If you like this episode, or any of the work CGAI does, please donate. Your support is critical for us to continue our work and expand our reach. Your donation is eligible for a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. https://buy.stripe.com/28o29deEmeCH1ck8ww
Speakers' bios:
Dr. Ian Brodie is CGAI's Program Director
Nancy Tremblay is the Assistant Deputy Minister of Materiel at DND
Simon Page is Assistant Deputy Minister of Defence and Marine Procurement Branch at PSPC
Richard Shimooka is a Senior Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding
Music Credits: Drew Phillips
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Dec 20, 2024 • 34min
Defence Deconstructed: Delivering on the National Shipbuilding Strategy
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Bruce MacGregor, about the launch of the last Arctic Offshore Patrol Ship and what it means for the larger National Shipbuilding Strategy.
For more on Irving's participation in the National Shipbuilding Strategy and the value added, read Bruce's piece on CGAI:
https://www.cgai.ca/the_national_shipbuilding_strategy_delivers_excellence_to_canada
Bruce MacGregor is Vice President of Engineering and Design at Irving Shipbuilding.
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips
Producer: Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Dec 19, 2024 • 56min
Energy Security Cubed: The Importance of Canada-US Electricity Trade
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Tyler Hodge and Mark Morey about the state of cross-border trade of electricity and why Canada and the United States are important partners.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the fall of the Assad regime, the new Clean Electricity Regulations, and the Fall Economic Statement.
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Guest Bio:
- Tyler Hodge is a Senior Economist for Electricity Analysis at EIA
- Mark Morey is EIA’s Senior Advisor for Electricity Analysis
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "The Worldly Philosophers", by Robert L. Heilbroner: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Worldly-Philosophers/Robert-L-Heilbroner/9780684862149
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Interview recording Date: December 18, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 16, 2024 • 47min
The Global Exchange: A Business Perspective on Engaging with Trump ft. Goldy Hyder
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Goldy Hyder about managing the North American relationship and our global interests as Donald Trump prepares to resume the US presidency.
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Participants' bios
- Goldy Hyder is President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present", by Fareed Zakaria: https://www.amazon.ca/Age-Revolutions-Progress-Backlash-Present/dp/0393239233
- "Speaking of Business: Conversations with Canadian innovators, leaders, and entrepreneurs" podcast from the BCC: https://www.thebusinesscouncil.ca/resources/
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Recording Date: December 10, 2024.

Dec 13, 2024 • 36min
Defence Deconstructed: At Sea with the Navy & Reforming Procurement
On today’s Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, the Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, about the work underway to reform Canada’s procurement system. This episode is a recording from our Procurement conference, which took place on November 25, 2024 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics and Hanwha Defence and Ocean, and our conference sponsors the Business Council of Canada, Raytheon, L3Harris Technologies, the Royal Norwegian Embassy to Canada, Amazon Web Services, Davie, and CAE.
Before that, he is joined by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine to talk about her experience at the Canadian Leaders at Sea program.
If you like this episode, or any of the work CGAI does, please donate. Your support is critical for us to continue our work and expand our reach. Your donation is eligible for a 100% CRA charitable donation tax receipt. https://buy.stripe.com/28o29deEmeCH1ck8ww
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Music by Drew Philips, produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine.

Dec 12, 2024 • 44min
Energy Security Cubed: The Trump Administration and Keystone XL Revival with Dennis McConaghy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Dennis McConaghy about the discussion around reviving the Keystone XL Pipeline and the inherent challenges in such a pursuit.
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Guest Bio:
- Dennis McConaghy is a CGAI Fellow and a former Executive with TC Energy, where he was responsible for the Keystone XL project
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Augustus: First Emperor of Rome", by Adrian Goldsworthy: https://www.amazon.ca/Augustus-Emperor-Adrian-Goldsworthy-author/dp/0300216661
- "Slow Horses", on Apple TV: https://tv.apple.com/ca/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o
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Interview recording Date: December 11, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.