

The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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May 17, 2024 • 51min
Defence Deconstructed: Reinvigorating Canadian Industry Relationship with Defence
On this episode Defence Deconstructed, Jana Lee Murray speaks to Scott Millar, Mike Mueller, Dr. Craig Stone, and Jeff Tasseron on how to improve the relationship between the Department of National Defence and the defence industry.
This conversation is part of our 2023 Procurement Conference, which took place on November 29, 2023 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Hanwha Defence; conference silver sponsors L3Harris, CAE, and Seaspan; as well as bronze sponsors Thales and Microsoft.
Guest Bios
Scott Millar is Assistant Deputy Minister (Horizontal Policy) at the Department of National Defence.
Mike Mueller is President and CEO of the Aerospace Industry Association of Canada.
Dr. Craig Stone is a CGAI Fellow.
Jeff Tasseron is CAE’s Director of Business Development and Strategy and a CGAI Fellow.
Host bio
Jana Lee Murray is ADGA’s Vice President of Operations.
Recording Date: 29 Nov 2023
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 16, 2024 • 40min
Energy Security Cubed: Challenges to Canadian Resource Competitiveness with Heather Exner-Pirot
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan interviews Heather Exner-Pirot about Canadian competitiveness in resources, and the factors underlying our challenges.
You can find Heather's article for the MacDonald Laurier Institute here: https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/canadian-competitiveness-resource-development-post-mortem-heather-exner-pirot-commentary/
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the wildfires in Alberta and planned European sanctions on Russian LNG transshipment.
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Guest Bio:
- Heather Exner-Pirot is Senior Fellow and Director of Natural Resources, Energy and Environment at the MacDonald Laurier Institute
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "No Trade is Free", by Robert Lighthizer: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/no-trade-is-free-robert-lighthizer?variant=41004612943906
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Interview recording Date: May 9, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 13, 2024 • 54min
The Global Exchange: International Development in the Federal Budget
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Kate Higgins, Robert Greenhill and Guy Thibault about what the recent Federal budget means for international development.
Participants' bios
- Kate Higgins is CEO of Cooperation Canada
- Robert Greenhill is Executive Chairman, Global Canada Initiative, and Professor of Practice at the Institute for the Study of International Development at McGill University
- Guy Thibault is Chairman of the Conference of Defence Associations Institute
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "Shogun", FX Miniseries: https://www.fxnowcanada.ca/shows/shogun/
- "Canada Alone: Navigating the Post-American World", by Kim Nossal: https://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459752450-canada-alone
Recording Date: May 3, 2024.

May 10, 2024 • 23min
Defence Deconstructed: Deterrence in Latvia feat. Gen Eyre
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Gen. Wayne Eyre outlines the threats environment and how the Canadian-led multinational brigade in Latvia will offer effective deterrence.
This episode is the recording from an event that took place on May 7th, 2024 that was supported by BAE Systems. The event is part of a series on NATO members' reaction to the full scale invasion of Ukraine.
Guest bio
General Wayne Eyre is Chief of the Defence Staff.
Host bio
Dr. David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 7 May 2024
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 9, 2024 • 39min
Energy Security Cubed: The Economics of the Trans Mountain Pipeline with Trevor Tombe
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Trevor Tombe about the financial and economic basis of the Trans Mountain Pipeline.
You can find Trevor's article for The Hub here: https://thehub.ca/2024-04-30/trevor-tombe-the-trans-mountain-pipeline-was-worth-every-penny/
You can find our previous podcast with Trevor here: https://www.cgai.ca/the_impact_of_energy_in_the_federal_budget_with_trevor_tombe
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the Ksi Lisims LNG project and alleged collusion with OPEC in the US tight oil industry.
CGAI's events in Toronto and Ottawa with Kent Fellows: https://www.cgai.ca/2024_energy_security_forum_roundtables_series_the_influence_of_energy_on_canadas_role_on_the_world_stage
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Guest Bio:
- Trevor Tombe is a Professor of Economics at the University of Calgary, a Research Fellow at The School of Public Policy, and co-director of Finances of the Nation.
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Last Barrel Standing? Confronting the Myth of “High-Cost” Canadian Oil Sands Production", by Kent Fellows: https://www.cdhowe.org/public-policy-research/last-barrel-standing-confronting-myth-high-cost-canadian-oil-sands
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Interview recording Date: May 8, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 6, 2024 • 48min
The Global Exchange: Canada Alone in a Post-American World, with Kim Nossal
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Kim Nossal about the Canada-US relationship during a hypothetical second Trump Presidency.
You can find Kim's book, titled "Canada Alone: Navigating the Post-American World" here: https://www.amazon.ca/Canada-Alone-Navigating-Post-American-World/dp/1459752457
Participants' bios
- Kim Richard Nossal is Professor Emeritus at Queen’s University where he headed the Department of Political Studies and later served as director of the Centre for International and Defence Policy and then executive director of the Queen’s School of Policy Studies.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "The Dean of Shandong: Confessions of a Minor Bureaucrat at a Chinese University", by Daniel A. Bell: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691247120/the-dean-of-shandong
Recording Date: April 17, 2024.

May 3, 2024 • 38min
Defence Deconstructed: A Modernized CAF for Modernized Continental Defence
On his episode of Defence Deconstructed, The Hon. Bill Blair speaks to Our North, Strong and Free's contribution to enhanced and modernized continental defence.
This recording is part of Triple Helix’s first annual conference, which took place on May 1st, 2024. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS program, CGAI’s strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Hanwha Ocean and Defence, and Cenovus, as well as the American Chamber of Commerce in Canada, reception sponsor L3Harris Technologies, and coffee break sponsor Bell.
For more about this conference, go to: https://www.cgai.ca/norad_modernization_enabling_connectivity_for_interoperability
Guest Bio:
The Hon. Bill Blair is the Minister of National Defence.
Host bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 1 May 2024
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 2, 2024 • 38min
Energy Security Cubed: The Impact of the Trans Mountain Expansion with Susan Bell
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Susan Bell about how the opening of the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion could change Canada's energy industry.
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe Calnan discuss the recent G7 Energy Minister summit and the possibility of Iraqi and Kazakh oil supply curtailments.
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Guest Bio:
- Susan Bell is Senior Vice President, Downstream at Rystad Energy
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "The Body in Question", by Jill Ciment: https://www.amazon.ca/Body-Question-Novel-Jill-Ciment/dp/152474798X
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Interview recording Date: April 25, 2023
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 29, 2024 • 51min
The Global Exchange: Navigating Engagement with China with Paul Evans
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Paul Evans about the troubled relationship between Canada and China, and ideas for how to navigate these challenging waters.
You can find Paul's book, titled "Engaging China", here: https://utorontopress.com/9781442614482/engaging-china/
Participants' bios
- Paul Evans is Professor Emeritus at the School of Public Policy and Global Affairs at the University of British Columbia. Paul is a Canadian representative on the ASEAN Regional Forum’s Experts and Eminent Persons Group and sits on various editorial boards for scholarly journals. His graduate and undergraduate teaching at UBC focused on Global China and World Order.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "The Bomber Mafia: A Dream, a Temptation, and the Longest Night of the Second World War", by Malcolm Gladwell: https://www.amazon.ca/Bomber-Mafia-Temptation-Longest-Second/dp/0316296619
- "Mr. Bates vs. The Post Office": https://www.pbs.org/show/mr-bates-vs-the-post-office/
Recording Date: April 17, 2024.

Apr 26, 2024 • 54min
Defence Deconstructed: The RCAF, 100 Years On
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to LGen Eric Kenny about the RCAF Centennial, the evolution of air power, and the future of the Air Force.
This episode is brought to you by Irving Shipduilding.
Guest Bio:
Lieutenant-General Eric Kenny is the Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force.
Host bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 22 Apr 2024
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips