
The CGAI Podcast Network
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Latest episodes

May 31, 2024 • 1h 1min
Defence Deconstructed: Partnering for Ukraine's Victory
On this episode of defence Deconstructed, Orest Zakydalsky speaks to Dr. David Perry, Dr. Alexander Lanoska, and Jill Sinclair about what Canada and NATO can do to help Ukraine with the war.
This episode is a recording from a webinar organized by the Ukrainian-Canadian Congress organized on May 22nd, 2024.
Guest bios
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Jill Sinclair is Canada's representative to the Ukraine Defence Reform Advisory Board and Senior Fellow at the Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy
Dr. Alexander Lanoszka is Assistant Professor at the University of Waterloo
Host bio
Orest Zakydalsky is Senior Policy Advisor at the Ukrainian Canadian Congress.
Recording Date: 22 May 2024
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 30, 2024 • 58min
Energy Security Cubed: Growing Canada's Global Influence with the Candu Reactor, ft. Gary Rose
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Gary Rose about the global nuclear renaissance and how the CANDU reactor can grow Canada's stature around the world.
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the energy implications of the upcoming Mexican Presidential election and the issues for Western wind turbine manufacturers.
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Guest Bio:
- Gary Rose is Executive Vice President, Canada Nuclear at AtkinsRéalis and President and CEO of Candu Energy Inc.
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Talent Wins: The New Playbook for Putting People First", by Ram Charan, Dominic Barton, and Dennis Carey: https://www.amazon.ca/Talent-Wins-Playbook-Putting-People/dp/1633691187
- "21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act", by Bob Joseph: https://www.ictinc.ca/books/21-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-indian-act
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Interview recording Date: May 15, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 27, 2024 • 47min
The Global Exchange: Rights, R2P, and Canada's Place in the World with Michael Ignatieff
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Michael Ignatieff about the successes and failures about the Responsibility to Protect, and Canada's role in the world in light of this. //
Participants' bios
- Michael Ignatieff is Rector Emeritus and Professor of History at Central European University. A scholar and author of many books, Michael has taught at the University of British Columbia, Cambridge University, the University of Toronto, the London School of Economics and Harvard University, where he was Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy. He was also Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada and Leader of the Official Opposition from 2008 until 2011. Michael is a member of the Order of Canada. //
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:
- "How Democracies Die", by Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/562246/how-democracies-die-by-steven-levitsky-and-daniel-ziblatt/ //
Recording Date: April 30, 2024.

May 24, 2024 • 28min
Defence Deconstructed: Emerging Technologies & Their Integration
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Alex Salt about the Canada's integration of emerging technology since the publication of Strong, Secured, Engaged, and the parallel work done by our Five Eyes allies.
David Perry is also joined by Kate E. Todd to discuss the latest in defence news.
Guests bios
Alex Salt is Triple Helix's Post-Doctoral Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/triple_helix_our_team
Kate E. Todd is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/katherine_todd
Host Bio
David Perry is CGAI's President and CEO – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Recording Date: 24 May 2024
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 23, 2024 • 39min
Energy Security Cubed: Energy Data and Canada's Economy with Lisa Baiton
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Lisa Baiton about CAPP's new Data Centre as well as how the oil and gas industry contributes to the Canadian economy.
You can find the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers' Data Centre here: https://www.capp.ca/en/capp-data-centre/
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the effects of the copper price spike and the prospect of combining cheap solar with expensive grid infrastructure.
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Guest Bio:
- Lisa Baiton is the CEO of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "No Trade is Free", by Robert Lighthizer: www.harpercollins.com/products/no-tr…41004612943906
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Interview recording Date: May 14, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 20, 2024 • 47min
The Global Exchange: A UN Trusteeship for Palestine
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Lloyd Axworthy, Michael Manulak, and Allan Rock about the concept of a UN Trusteeship for Palestine, and what Canada's role could be in finding a political resolution to the conflict. //
You can find their recent article for Foreign Affairs here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/trusteeship-palestine //
Participants' bios
- Lloyd Axworthy is Chair of the World Refugee and Migration Council. He was Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs from 1996 to 2000.
- Michael Manulak is an Assistant Professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University.
- Allan Rock is President Emeritus of the University of Ottawa. He was Canadian Minister of Justice from 1993 to 1997 and Canadian Ambassador to the UN from 2003 to 2006. //
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:
- Diplomatic documents from the Canadian archives: https://www.international.gc.ca/gac-amc/history-histoire/external-relations_relations-exterieures.aspx?lang=eng
- The works of the late Nobel Prize Winner Alice Munro: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Alice-Munro/author/B000APECX6?
- "Free and Equal", by Daniel Chandler: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743628/free-and-equal-by-daniel-chandler/ //
Recording Date: May 17, 2024.

May 17, 2024 • 51min
Defence Deconstructed: Reinvigorating Canadian Industry Relationship with Defence
On this episode Defence Deconstructed, Jana Lee Murray speaks to Scott Millar, Mike Mueller, Dr. Craig Stone, and Jeff Tasseron on how to improve the relationship between the Department of National Defence and the defence industry.
This conversation is part of our 2023 Procurement Conference, which took place on November 29, 2023 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Hanwha Defence; conference silver sponsors L3Harris, CAE, and Seaspan; as well as bronze sponsors Thales and Microsoft.
Guest Bios
Scott Millar is Assistant Deputy Minister (Horizontal Policy) at the Department of National Defence.
Mike Mueller is President and CEO of the Aerospace Industry Association of Canada.
Dr. Craig Stone is a CGAI Fellow.
Jeff Tasseron is CAE’s Director of Business Development and Strategy and a CGAI Fellow.
Host bio
Jana Lee Murray is ADGA’s Vice President of Operations.
Recording Date: 29 Nov 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 16, 2024 • 40min
Energy Security Cubed: Challenges to Canadian Resource Competitiveness with Heather Exner-Pirot
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan interviews Heather Exner-Pirot about Canadian competitiveness in resources, and the factors underlying our challenges.
You can find Heather's article for the MacDonald Laurier Institute here: https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/canadian-competitiveness-resource-development-post-mortem-heather-exner-pirot-commentary/
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the wildfires in Alberta and planned European sanctions on Russian LNG transshipment.
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Guest Bio:
- Heather Exner-Pirot is Senior Fellow and Director of Natural Resources, Energy and Environment at the MacDonald Laurier Institute
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "No Trade is Free", by Robert Lighthizer: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/no-trade-is-free-robert-lighthizer?variant=41004612943906
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Interview recording Date: May 9, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 13, 2024 • 54min
The Global Exchange: International Development in the Federal Budget
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Kate Higgins, Robert Greenhill and Guy Thibault about what the recent Federal budget means for international development.
Participants' bios
- Kate Higgins is CEO of Cooperation Canada
- Robert Greenhill is Executive Chairman, Global Canada Initiative, and Professor of Practice at the Institute for the Study of International Development at McGill University
- Guy Thibault is Chairman of the Conference of Defence Associations Institute
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "Shogun", FX Miniseries: https://www.fxnowcanada.ca/shows/shogun/
- "Canada Alone: Navigating the Post-American World", by Kim Nossal: https://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459752450-canada-alone
Recording Date: May 3, 2024.

May 10, 2024 • 23min
Defence Deconstructed: Deterrence in Latvia feat. Gen Eyre
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Gen. Wayne Eyre outlines the threats environment and how the Canadian-led multinational brigade in Latvia will offer effective deterrence.
This episode is the recording from an event that took place on May 7th, 2024 that was supported by BAE Systems. The event is part of a series on NATO members' reaction to the full scale invasion of Ukraine.
Guest bio
General Wayne Eyre is Chief of the Defence Staff.
Host bio
Dr. David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 7 May 2024
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips