

The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Jul 22, 2024 • 55min
The Global Exchange: Navigating a Turbulent Canada-US Relationship
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Roy Norton and Don Abelson about Canadian advocacy in the United States and navigating a potentially turbulent relationship for the coming years. //
Participants' bios
- Roy Norton is a CGAI Fellow and Adjunct Assistant Professor at the University of Waterloo's Balsillie School of International Affairs
- Don Abelson is Academic Director, Wilson College of Leadership and Civic Engagement and Professor of Political Science at McMaster University. //
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:
- "The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism", by Tim Alberta: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-kingdom-the-power-and-the-glory-tim-alberta?variant=41012408516642 //
Recording Date: June 28, 2024.

Jul 19, 2024 • 1h 11min
Defence Deconstructed: How to Enable Connectivity
On today’s episode of Defence Deconstructed, we have a Triple Helix two-parter for you.
First, you’ll hear Dave Perry speaks with our fellow and former Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy Vice Admiral Ron Lloyd about digital transformation and where the barriers lie. Today, we’ll focus on Canada’s classification system.
Read Ron's paper on Canada's classification framework here: https://www.cgai.ca/canadas_security_classification_framework_the_biggest_impediment_to_realizing_our_digital_ambition
Then, you’ll hear a panel discussion on enabling connectivity for NORAD modernization between our Triple Helix post-doctoral fellow Dr. Alexander Salt, Chief of Staff to the then named Digital Transformation Office Major-General Christopher Zimmer, Senior Counselor at Palantir Technologies Shon Manasco, and Co-Director of Triple Helix and Associate Professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs Dr. Alex Wilner.
That conversation was a panel from Triple Helix’s first annual conference, which took place on May 1, 2024. This event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS program, CGAI’s strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Hanwha Ocean and Defence, and Cenovus, as well as the American Chamber of Commerce in Canada, reception sponsor L3Harris Technologies, and coffee break sponsor Bell.

Jul 18, 2024 • 57min
Energy Security Cubed: Dealing with Energy Misinformation with Stewart Muir
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Stewart Muir about the challenge of combatting energy misinformation and take stock of BC energy policy, including on LNG.
You can find Crystal Smith's episode of Energy Security Cubed here: https://www.cgai.ca/the_cedar_lng_blueprint_for_resource_development_with_crystal_smith
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss Trump's ideas on energy policy, fires near Alberta's oil sands facilities, and Japanese plans for LNG.
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Guest Bio:
- Stewart Muir is the Founder and CEO of Resource Works and the host of the upcoming Power Struggle podcast
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives", By Ernest Scheyder: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-War-Below/Ernest-Scheyder/9781668011805
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Interview recording Date: July 15, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 16, 2024 • 58min
The Event Edit: Scoping the Illegal Fishing Challenge
On this episode of The event Edit, Dr. Stephen Nagy speaks to Dr. Renato Cruz De Castro and Jonathan Berkshire Miller about the challenge of illegal, unregulated, and unreported fishing in the Indo-Pacific, how it relates to other threats, and what measures can be taken to counter it.
Guest bios
Dr. Renato Cruz De Castro is a Professor at De la Salle University –
https://globaltaiwan.org/member/renato-cruz-de-castro/
Jonathan Berkshire Miller is a Senior Fellow and the Director of Foreign Affairs, National Defence and National Security at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute –https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/cm-expert/jonathan-berkshire-miller/
Host bio:
Dr. Stephen Nagy is a CGAI Fellow and a Professor at the International Christian University – https://www.cgai.ca/stephen_nagy
Recording Date: 27 Feb 2024

Jul 15, 2024 • 49min
The Global Exchange: The Future of Trade is Regional
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, we are featuring a session from the CGAI's Annual Trade Conference, titled "The Future of Trade is Regional"
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Participants' bios
- Dr. Meredith Lilly, Simon Reisman Chair
in International Economic Policy at Carleton University’s
Norman Paterson School of International Affairs (Moderator)
- Jonathan Fried, former Deputy Minister and Coordinator for International Economic Relations at Global Affairs Canada
- Vina Nadjibulla, Vice-President, Research & Strategy at the Asia-Pacific Foundation of Canada
- Dr. Teddy Samy, Professor of international affairs at the Norman
Paterson School of International Affairs
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Recording Date: April 11, 2024.

Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 14min
Defence Deconstructed: 2024 NATO Summit in Vignettes
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry discusses the 2024 NATO Summit with
Brian Lee Crowley, Managing Director of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute
Philippe Lagassé, one of our fellows and associate Professor at Carleton University – read Philippe’s Substack here: https://lagassep.substack.com/
Christopher Sands, Director of the Wilson Center’s Canada Institute
Amy Topshee, NATO Field School’s Alumni Coordinator – follow the NATO Field School on social media and listen to their podcast here: https://soundcloud.com/cdsnpodcasts
Jason Moyer, Global Europe Program Associate at the Wilson Center – read Jason’s piece here: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/natos-75th-anniversary-summit-standing-test-time
Nicolas Todd, Vice President, Government Relations at the Canadian Association of Defence and Security Industries
This episode is part of a series on NATO countries’ reactions to the war against Ukraine, supported by the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program.
Host biography
Dr. David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/David_Perry
Recording Date: 12 July 2024

Jul 11, 2024 • 48min
Energy Security Cubed: Breaking Down China's EV Industrial Policy with Scott Kennedy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Scott Kennedy about China's industrial policy around electric vehicles, what it means for China's economy, and how Western countries should react to this economic trend.
You can find Scott's blog post for CSIS here: https://www.csis.org/blogs/trustee-china-hand/chinese-ev-dilemma-subsidized-yet-striking
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss new Canadian policies around mining takeovers, the effectiveness of sanctions on Russian oil, and efforts to shore up Ukraine's grid in advance of winter.
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Guest Bio:
- Scott Kennedy is senior adviser and Trustee Chair in Chinese Business and Economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Wild Ride: a Short History of the Opening and Closing of the Chinese Economy", by Anne Stevenson-Yang: https://buijones.com/wild-ride
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Interview recording Date: July 8, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 9, 2024 • 41min
The Event Edit: Combatting IUU Fishing
Over the Summer, CGAI will be releasing its event recordings as part of a special series, called the Event Edit.
On this edition, you'll hear an excerpt from our Illegal, Unreported, and Unregulated Fishing: Cooperation for a Rules-Based Maritime Order, which took place on February 27, 2024.
Christian DesRoches, from Global Affairs Canada and Andrew McMaster opened the event by outlining the work the government of Canada does to address Illegal, Unreported, and Unregulated Fishing. Then, Dr. Maiko Raita explains the legal framework defining IUU fishing and how to combat it.
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine.

Jul 8, 2024 • 52min
The Global Exchange: Unpacking Canada's Role in NATO before the Washington Summit
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with David Collenette, Julie Dzerowicz and Andrew Rasiulis about Canada's role in NATO as we enter the Washington NATO summit. //
Participants' bios
- Hon. David Collenette is chair of the NATO Association of Canada. A former member of parliament he served as Minister of Defence and Transportation in the Chretien governments.
- Julie Dzerowicz is chair of the NATO Parliamentary Association and the memher of parliament for Davenport
- CGAI Fellow Andrew Rasiulis served in the Canadian Armed Forces and in then in the Defence Department where is was responsible for Eastern European affairs. //
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:
- "Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present", by Fareed Zakaria: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/763565/age-of-revolutions-by-fareed-zakaria/9780393239232
- "The Prince", by Stephen Maher: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/The-Prince/Stephen-Maher/9781668024492
- "You Never Know: A Memoir" by Tom Sellick: https://www.harpercollins.ca/9780062945761/you-never-know/
- "2034: A Novel of the Next World War", by Elliot Ackerman and Admiral James Stavridis: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=9781984881250
- "Roads to Oblivion: Triumphs and Tragedies of British Car Makers 1946-56", by Christopher Balfour: https://www.amazon.com/Roads-Oblivion-Triumphs-Tragedies-British/dp/1870979826 //
Recording Date: July 4, 2024.

Jul 5, 2024 • 56min
Defence Deconstructed: New Approach to Recruitment & NATO's Energy Security
On this week's Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Colonel Chris Brown about the Memorandum of Understanding he signed with Fanshawe College to provide a co-operative education program in the form of military training.
Then, to continue our conversations on NATO ahead of the Washington Summit, you’ll hear Kelly Ogle discuss the role of energy security for geostrategic stability with Paweł Markiewicz and Stewart Muir. This panel was part of an event organized on April 19th, 2024 in Vancouver in partnership with the Polish Institute of International Affairs and Resource Works, and with the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS program.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding
Guest bios:
Colonel Christopher Brown is the Commander of the Army Reserves’ 31 Canadian Brigade Group.
Kelly Ogle is CGAI's Managing Director.
Paweł Markiewicz is the Executive Director of the Polish Institute of International Affairs’ Washington D.C. office
Stewart Muir is the CEO of Resource Works
Host bio
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/David_Perry
Recording Date: 10 June 2024 and 19 April 2024