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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Aug 29, 2024 • 36min
Energy Security Cubed: A Strategic Perspective on Labour and Just Transition with Mark Rowlinson
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Mark Rowlinson for a labour perspective on strategic industries like energy, vehicles, and steel.
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Guest Bio:
- Mark Rowlinson is a Partner at Goldblatt Partners, and previously worked for the United Steelworkers of Canada
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Cosmic Connections: Poetry in the Age of Disenchantment", by Charles Taylor: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674296084
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Interview recording Date: August 21, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 27, 2024 • 33min
The Event Edit: Ensuring Taiwan's Security
On this episode of The Event Edit, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine speaks to Prof. Stephen Nagy and Dr. David Perry about Canada's role and capacity in supporting Taiwan's security.
This episode is part of a series on Taiwan’s place in the world and how its security is crucial to global security. This series was supported by the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office. For more, visit: https://www.cgai.ca/2024_taiwan_series
Guest bios
Prof. Stephen Nagy is professor at the International Christian University in Tokyo and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/stephen_nagy
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/David_Perry
Host bio
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is CGAI's Ottawa Operations Manager
Recording Date: 26 Feb 2024
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Aug 26, 2024 • 57min
The Global Exchange: Dealing With Foreign Interference
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with CGAI Fellows Richard Fadden, Frank Graves and Christopher Waddell about the challenges facing Canada in mitigating foreign interference.
You can find Dick's interview with the Macdonald Laurier Institute here: https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/richard-fadden-on-dealing-with-foreign-interference-in-canada-inside-policy/
You can find Frank's speech with Carleton University here: https://www.cgai.ca/the_collapse_of_social_cohesion_and_crisis_of_trust_and_truth
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Participants' bios
- Richard (Dick) Fadden has had many appointments in Canada's public service including Director of CSIS, Deputy Minister of Immigration, Deputy Minister of National Defence and then National Security Advisor. He is an officer in the Order of Canada.
- Dr. Frank Graves is the founder of EKOS Research Associates
- Dr. Christopher Waddell is professor emeritus and former director of Carleton University’s School of Journalism and Communication
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:",
- "How Not to Be a Politician", by Rory Stewart: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/690281/how-not-to-be-a-politician-by-rory-stewart/
- "Can It Happen Here? Authoritarianism in America", edited by Cass R. Sunstein: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/can-it-happen-here-cass-r-sunstein?variant=32121895026722
- "La défaite de l'Occident" (The Defeat of the West), by Emmanuel Todd: https://www.leslibraires.ca/livres/la-defaite-de-l-occident-emmanuel-todd-9782073041135.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo6AvKppomu1gqTNNEjeQR0hHLbhhWDJ4Au-qLQZmX9oqJL7uNl
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Recording Date: August 16, 2024.

Aug 23, 2024 • 1h 28min
Defence Deconstructed: Procurement & Continental Defence Capabilities
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to The Hon. John McKay about the House of Commons’ National Defence Committee report on defence procurement.
Then (34:28), David Perry moderates a panel on Canada’s continental defence capabilities with Cmdre Jason Armstrong, David Hazen, then BGen Chris McKenna, and Peter Saunders
Guests’ bios:
The Hon. John McKay is Chair of the House of Commons’ Standing Committee on National Defence
Peter Saunders is the Director General, NORAD-Continental Defence Modernization Office
Cmdre Jason Armstrong is the Director General, Naval Force Development for the Royal Canadian Navy
At the time of recording, Chris McKenna held the rank of BGen and was Director General Air and Space Force Development at the Royal Canadian Air Force
David Hazen is the Director General R&D Programs for Defence Research & Development Canada
Host biography
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Read NDDN’s report: https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/NDDN/report-12/
Recording Date: 6 August and 1 May 2024
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Aug 22, 2024 • 46min
Energy Security Cubed: Aligning Emissions Reduction with Canadian National Goals with Justin Riemer
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan interviews Justin Riemer about the goals of Emissions Reduction Alberta, its place in Canada's innovation ecosystem, and larger Canadian national goals around economic and energy security.
You can find ERA's documentary here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuZYEKYt6s
You can find Energy Security Cubed episodes mentioned in the podcast here:
Chris Doornbos: https://www.cgai.ca/direct_lithium_extraction_and_canadian_mineral_security_with_chris_doornbos
Michael Holmes: https://www.cgai.ca/green_and_flexible_geothermal_energy
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss an article from The Logic on Canadian LNG.
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Guest Bio:
- Justin Riemer is the CEO of Emissions Reduction Alberta
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur 1880 - 1964", by William Manchester: https://www.amazon.ca/American-Caesar-Douglas-MacArthur-1880/dp/0316024740
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Interview recording Date: August 15, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 19, 2024 • 1h 6min
The Global Exchange: Assessing Global Risks
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Jonathan Fried and Kevin Nealer about the risks facing Canada and the wider world, and how we should think about mitigating them. //
Participants' bios
- Kevin Nealer is a principal at the Washington-based Scowcroft Group where he focuses on China and Southeast Asia. He previously served on President Obama’s Intelligence Advisory Board. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
- A foreign service officer, Jonathan Fried served as our ambassador to Japan and the World Trade Organization, as foreign policy advisor to the prime minister and as Canadian sherpa for the G20.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:",
- "James: A Novel by Percival Everett: https://www.elliottbaybook.com/item/Tjsi1wmychOLbSX2X8mBkQ
- "The Right Way to Deter China From Attacking Taiwan", by Ryan Haas: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/right-way-deter-china-attacking-taiwan
- The Logic: https://thelogic.co/
- "The Threshold of Dissent: A History of American Jewish Critics of Zionism", by Marjorie N. Feld: https://nyupress.org/9781479829316/the-threshold-of-dissent/
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Recording Date: August 13, 2024.

Aug 16, 2024 • 59min
Defence Deconstructed: RIMPAC from a Commander's Perspective and China-Russia Tech Cooperation
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Commodore Kristjan Monaghan about his experiences at RIMPAC, role in the exercise, and lessons learned.
Then at 34:10, Dave has a discussion with Dr. Casey Babb about the China-Russia partnership in light of his recent paper for us, titled "A Match Made in Heaven: China-Russia Technology Co-operation and Canada’s National Security". You can find his paper here: https://www.cgai.ca/a_match_made_in_heaven_china_russia_tech_co_operation_and_canadas_national_security
Guests’ bios:
- Canadian Navy Commodore Kristjan Monaghan was the Commander of the Combined Forces Maritime Component Command of Exercise RIMPAC
- Dr. Casey Babb is Senior Fellow with the Macdonald Laurier Institute, International Fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, and an Associate Fellow with the Royal United Services Institute
Host biography
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book Recommendations:
- "Like War: The Weaponization of Social Media", by Peter Singer and Emerson Brooking: https://www.amazon.com/LikeWar-Weaponization-P-W-Singer/dp/1328695743
Recording Date: 16 August and 7 August 2024
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Aug 15, 2024 • 48min
Energy Security Cubed: Environmental Justice and Energy Security ft Kristen van de Biezenbos
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Kristen van de Biezenbos about the challenge of balancing local environmental considerations and the larger issues of energy security and climate change.
You can find Kristen's article for the Osgoode Hall Law Journal here: https://digitalcommons.osgoode.yorku.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3813&context=ohlj
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss German changer in the Nord Stream sabotage case, and developments on the situation for the grid in South Africa.
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Guest Bio:
- Dr. Kristen van de Biezenbos is a Professor of Law at California Western School of Law San Diego
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "New Democracy: The Creation of the Modern American State", by William J. Novak: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674260443
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Interview recording Date: August 12, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 12, 2024 • 56min
The Global Exchange: Trade and the Future of the Canada-US Relationship
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Tim Sargent and CGAI Fellows Lawrence Herman and John Weekes about Canada-US trade and the upcoming review of the CUSMA. This podcast is associated with the work of the Expert Group on Canada-U.S. Relations, an initiative supported by The Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, Carleton University, and the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. //
Participants' bios
- Lawrence Herman is a trade law specialist having served in the Foreign Service and then in private practise. He is a Senior Fellow and member of the National Policy Council of the C. D. Howe Institute
- A foreign service officer, John Weekes served as Canada’s Chief Negotiator for the NAFTA and then as our Ambassador to the World Trade Organization before a distinguished career in the private sector.
- Tim Sargent is Senior Fellow and Director of Domestic Policy at the Macdonald Laurier Institue. A career public servant he held Deputy Minister and Associate Deputy Minister positions at Fisheries and Oceans, International Trade, Finance, and Agriculture and AgriFood, as well as senior positions at the Privy Council Office. //
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
Read & Watch:
- "The Parthenon Marbles Dispute: Heritage, Law, Politics", by Alexander Herman: https://www.bloomsbury.com/ca/parthenon-marbles-dispute-9781509967179/
- "Statesmen, Strategists, and Diplomats:
Canada’s Prime Ministers and the Making of Foreign Policy", edited by John R. English and Patrice Dutil: https://www.ubcpress.ca/statesmen-strategists-diplomats
- "No Trade Is Free: Changing Course, Taking on China, and Helping America's Workers", by Robert Lighthizer: https://www.amazon.ca/No-Trade-Free-Changing-Americas/dp/0063282135
- "Innovation in Real Places – Strategies for Prosperity in an Unforgiving World", by Dan Breznitz: https://politics.utoronto.ca/publication/innovation-in-real-places-strategies-for-prosperity-in-an-unforgiving-world/ //
Recording Date: August 6, 2024.

Aug 9, 2024 • 1h 24min
Defence Deconstructed: RIMPAC and Canada-US Defence Cooperation
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Dr. Ian Brodie and Dr. Alexander Salt about their participation at the 2024 edition of the Rim of the Pacific Exercise.
Then at 41:00, you’ll hear a panel discussion on the practical aspects of Canada-US cooperation for NORAD modernization, featuring MGen Constance Jenkins, MGen Jamie Speiser-Blanchet, Joanne Lostracco, MGen (ret’d) Punch Moulton, and moderated by Dr. Andrea Charron.
Guests’ bios:
Dr. Ian Brodie is CGAI’s Program Director and Professor at the University of Calgary.
Dr. Alexander Salt is Triple Helix’ Post-Doctoral Fellow
MGen Constance Jenkins is Director Logistics and Engineering for NORAD/ USNORTHCOM
MGen Jamie Speiser-Blanchet is the Deputy Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force
Joanne Lostracco is the DG (Minister), Defence Procurement, Public Services and Procurement Canada
MGen (ret’d) Punch Moulton is the Vice President of Stellar Advisors, Stellar Solutions
Dr. Andrea Charron is Professor at the University of Manitoba and a Fellow for Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Host biography
Dr. David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Book Recommendations:
- "Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology", by Chris Miller: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Chip-War/Chris-Miller/9781982172008
- "Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class", by Rob Henderson: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Troubled/Rob-Henderson/9781982168537
Recording Date: 6 August and 1 May 2024
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Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.