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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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Dec 20, 2024 • 34min
Defence Deconstructed: Delivering on the National Shipbuilding Strategy
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Bruce MacGregor, about the launch of the last Arctic Offshore Patrol Ship and what it means for the larger National Shipbuilding Strategy.
For more on Irving's participation in the National Shipbuilding Strategy and the value added, read Bruce's piece on CGAI:
https://www.cgai.ca/the_national_shipbuilding_strategy_delivers_excellence_to_canada
Bruce MacGregor is Vice President of Engineering and Design at Irving Shipbuilding.
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips
Producer: Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Dec 19, 2024 • 56min
Energy Security Cubed: The Importance of Canada-US Electricity Trade
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Tyler Hodge and Mark Morey about the state of cross-border trade of electricity and why Canada and the United States are important partners.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the fall of the Assad regime, the new Clean Electricity Regulations, and the Fall Economic Statement.
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Guest Bio:
- Tyler Hodge is a Senior Economist for Electricity Analysis at EIA
- Mark Morey is EIA’s Senior Advisor for Electricity Analysis
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "The Worldly Philosophers", by Robert L. Heilbroner: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Worldly-Philosophers/Robert-L-Heilbroner/9780684862149
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Interview recording Date: December 18, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 16, 2024 • 47min
The Global Exchange: A Business Perspective on Engaging with Trump ft. Goldy Hyder
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks with Goldy Hyder about managing the North American relationship and our global interests as Donald Trump prepares to resume the US presidency.
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Participants' bios
- Goldy Hyder is President and CEO of the Business Council of Canada.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present", by Fareed Zakaria: https://www.amazon.ca/Age-Revolutions-Progress-Backlash-Present/dp/0393239233
- "Speaking of Business: Conversations with Canadian innovators, leaders, and entrepreneurs" podcast from the BCC: https://www.thebusinesscouncil.ca/resources/
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Recording Date: December 10, 2024.

Dec 13, 2024 • 36min
Defence Deconstructed: At Sea with the Navy & Reforming Procurement
On today’s Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, the Honourable Jean-Yves Duclos, about the work underway to reform Canada’s procurement system. This episode is a recording from our Procurement conference, which took place on November 25, 2024 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics and Hanwha Defence and Ocean, and our conference sponsors the Business Council of Canada, Raytheon, L3Harris Technologies, the Royal Norwegian Embassy to Canada, Amazon Web Services, Davie, and CAE.
Before that, he is joined by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine to talk about her experience at the Canadian Leaders at Sea program.
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Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Music by Drew Philips, produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine.

Dec 12, 2024 • 44min
Energy Security Cubed: The Trump Administration and Keystone XL Revival with Dennis McConaghy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Dennis McConaghy about the discussion around reviving the Keystone XL Pipeline and the inherent challenges in such a pursuit.
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Guest Bio:
- Dennis McConaghy is a CGAI Fellow and a former Executive with TC Energy, where he was responsible for the Keystone XL project
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Augustus: First Emperor of Rome", by Adrian Goldsworthy: https://www.amazon.ca/Augustus-Emperor-Adrian-Goldsworthy-author/dp/0300216661
- "Slow Horses", on Apple TV: https://tv.apple.com/ca/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o
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Interview recording Date: December 11, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Dec 9, 2024 • 45min
The Global Exchange: Takeaways from the 2024 Halifax Security Forum
For this episode of the Global Exchange podcast, Colin Robertson talks about the recent Halifax International Security Forum with Ian Brodie, Darrell Bricker, and Luiza Savage.
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Participants' bios
- Darrell Bricker is Chief Executive Officer at Ipsos Public Affairs
- Ian Brodie is CGAI Progam Director. professor at the University of Calgary and a member of a Halifax Security Forum planning committee
- Luiza Savage is a CGAI Fellow and Executive Editor for growth at POLITICO
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson //
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Reading/Streaming Recommendations:
- "#2221 - JD Vance", The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2221-jd-vance/id360084272?i=1000675238352
- "Paris 1944", by Patrick Bishop: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Paris-1944/Patrick-Bishop/9781639367030
- "The Russo-Ukrainian War", by Serhii Plokhy: https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324051190
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Recording Date: November 29, 2024.

Dec 6, 2024 • 53min
Defence Deconstructed: The Three Services After ONSAF
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine speaks to LGen Eric Kenny, VAdm Angus Topshee, and LGen Michael Wright about what the future of the Air Force, Navy, and Army looks like in a post-ONSAF world and with 2 per cent of GDP on defence spending.
LGen Eric Kenny is the Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force.
VAdm Angus Topshee is the Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy
LGen Michael Wright is the Commander of the Canadian Army.
This episode is a recording from our Procurement conference, which took place on November 25, 2024 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics and Hanwha Defence and Ocean, and our conference sponsors the Business Council of Canada, Raytheon, L3Harris Technologies, the Royal Norwegian Embassy to Canada, Amazon Web Services, Davie, and CAE.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding
Music Credits to Drew Phillips.
Producer: Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Dec 5, 2024 • 1h 6min
Energy Security Cubed: Reflecting on Europe’s Response to the Energy Crisis
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Max Bergmann and Cy McGready about their recent report, "Power Plays: Europe’s Response to the Energy Crisis", which can be found here: https://www.csis.org/analysis/power-plays
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the ongoing negotiations between Canada and the United States about the Trump tariff threat and the prospect of Indonesian nuclear energy.
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Guest Bio:
- Max Bergmann is the director of the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program and the Stuart Center in Euro-Atlantic and Northern European Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
- Cy McGready is a fellow in the Energy Security and Climate Change Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "To Run the World: The Kremlin’s Cold War Bid for Global Power", by Sergey Radchenko: https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/to-run-the-world/to-run-the-world/2E6C55152B5325189728E1B1A0DB517A
- "The Myth of Sisyphus", by Albert Camus: https://www.amazon.ca/Myth-Sisyphus-Albert-Camus/dp/0525564454
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Interview recording Date: October 10, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Nov 29, 2024 • 43min
Defence Deconstructed: A Vision for Defence At 2% of GDP
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to The Hon. Bill Blair about reaching 2 per cent of GDP on defence spending, and what procurement reforms are needed to do so.
This episode is a recording from our Procurement conference, which took place on November 25, 2024 in Ottawa. This conference was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program, our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics and Hanwha Defence and Ocean, and our conference sponsors the Business Council of Canada, Raytheon, L3Harris Technologies, the Royal Norwegian Embassy to Canada, Amazon Web Services, Davie, and CAE.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
The Hon. Bill Blair is the Minister of National Defence
David Perry is the President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Music Credits: Drew Phillips.
Producer: Charlotte Duval-Lantoine

Nov 28, 2024 • 53min
Energy Security Cubed: Understanding Trump's Tariff Logic with Dan Ujczo
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Dan Ujczo about President Elect Trump's plans to hit all goods imports from Canada (including energy) with 25% tariffs, how Trump would go about doing so, and the implications of Canadian policy and trade negotiations into the future.
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Guest Bio:
- Dan Ujczo is a senior counsel in the International Trade and Transportation practice groups at Thompson Hine LLP
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "No Trade Is Free: Changing Course, Taking on China, and Helping America's Workers", by Robert Lighthizer: https://www.amazon.ca/No-Trade-Free-Changing-Americas/dp/0063282135
- "Basketball's Amoeba Defense: A Complete Multiple System", by Fran Webster: https://www.amazon.ca/Basketballs-Amoeba-Defense-Complete-Multiple/dp/0130691399
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Interview recording Date: November 27, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.