The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming

Season 6 BONUS Episode of The Eden Podcast transcriptWelcome to The Eden Podcast where we think again about the Bible on women and men and we start with a correct understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden back in the beginning. I’m Bruce C. E. Fleming, founder of the Tru316 Project and a former Academic Dean and Professor of Practical Theology. The foundation of the Tru316 Project is based on the research of Dr. Joy Fleming who wrote the book Man and Woman in Biblical Unity – Theology  from Genesis 2-3.The focus of this BONUS episode is Our Christmas Challenge.Joy and I would like to invite you to help meet the challenge of starting the Tru316 Foundation. The Tru316 Foundation? Yes! We have been working on the groundwork for the Tru316 Foundation for some time. We now need to raise the first funds and have started a GoFundMe Christmas Challenge. This Christmas Challenge will last only a brief period. Donations from any and all listeners of The Eden Podcast who can will go toward incorporating the Tru316 Foundation as a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. But we need your gifts to do this. Up to now this has been a labor of love on our part with no ways for others to get involved. Now we need your help. The Tru316 Foundation is dedicated to undo the damage done by the mistranslation of Genesis 3:16. It will help ATD Women and it will play its part in combating what I’m calling Big Patriarchy. ATD? These letters stand for Abused, Trafficked and Deflected women.A – women who are abused: sexually abused, emotionally abused, financially abused and spiritually abused. T – women who are trafficked: as less than free individuals created in God’s image. D – women who are deflected: deflected from following their calling and deflected using their gifts.We are receiving reports, very heartwarming ones, from ATD women around the world who are being helped by the Tru316 message. They are being helped as we spread the message that God did not curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way in the Garden of Eden. What about my new term, Big Patriarchy? These are the voices and organizations that promote pagan patriarchy in our schools and institutions, in our homes and in our churches. So we have a three-part advance in mind. (1) Further spread the message of the Tru316. (2) Continue to help ATD Women. And (3) combat the influence of Big Patriarchy. We have a big job to do. There is a lot of incorrect teaching that needs to be overcome.We believe that receiving donations to this work through the Tru316 Foundation will move forward the work. Already, close to 50,000 downloads have been made of episodes of The Eden Podcast during its first year. Already, readers of The Book of Eden have been reporting the relief they felt and the encouragement they have received to learn what God said in the Garden of Eden. So, we are inviting you to invest in the future ministry of the Tru316 Foundation. Do you want to get involved? Please visit our website at Tru316 Foundation.com. Here’s how the Tru316 Foundation specifically will work for you. The Tru316 Foundation will support the operation of the rapidly growing Tru316 Project. Donations from individuals and private family foundations are needed here. The Tru316 Foundation also will allow donors to make donor advised gifts to organizations that are like-minded ministries to the Tru316 Project. Donor advised funds are a powerful way to make change. Donors make major gifts during a given calendar year and receive the tax benefit. Later, they will advise the Tru316 Foundation which organizations they wish to receive those funds. Such donations are happening elsewhere all the time. I recently spoke with the Board Chair of a Christian organization that received and handled donor advised funds last year to the tune of 2 billion dollars. How much of that money has gone to minister to ATD Women? Some, perhaps. How much has been used to correct Big Patriarchy and gone toward getting out the message of the Tru316, correcting the harmful messages?Will you consider this? Please visit our website: Tru316Foundation.com.Has The Eden Podcast helped you? Would you like to help others in the same way? Do you know the groundswell of response we have been getting? Do you know what has been happening in the lives of those who have been learning the message of the Tru316 which was revealed in the research of my wife Dr. Joy Fleming on Genesis chapters 2 through 3, and especially on God’s 11 Hebrew words addressed to the woman in Genesis 3:16? Do you know the response of joy generated by my studies on the related passages in the New Testament revealed in the light of the Tru316? The response has been tremendous!But translations around the world still make it look like God somehow cursed Eve and placed the rebellious man to rule over her, when only God rightfully rules over the human beings, the equal partners, he created.Women are still being abused and trafficked. They are being deflected from all that God has in mind for them.Big Patriarchy is still pumping out its propaganda. We need to start the Tru316 Foundation this Christmas Season 2021! The start of the Tru316 Foundation will result from listeners like you making your gift, taking our humble Christmas Challenge. We’ve set up a simple GoFundMe campaign to collect the very first gifts. Donations from around the world have already been received, from Slovenia, from the United Kingdom and even from Idaho. Would you take the Christmas Challenge as well? The link to make your donation is up on our new website right now. Please go to Tru316Foundation.com that’s T R U 3 1 6 FOUNDATION DOT COMGO DEEPER  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

When the man and the woman ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden they died. They knew evil. Their bodies were mortal.God addressed the man in the Garden of Eden in the same pattern as the serpent tempter! "Because you." "Cursed is." "All the days of your life." And more.But God didn't change the man's body with a curse. Just as God didn't change the woman's body. What loving grace on God's part!In Genesis 3:17-19 God rebuked the man with great precision and pointed to just whose voice he was supposed to be listening to. The man had heard three voices: God's voice, the serpent's voice and the woman's voice. He was judged for disobeying God's voice. The penalty for eating the forbidden fruit was death! Did the man return to God's ways? Genesis 3:10 reveals that he did not. Instead he took the name Adam - human being - for himself. He named the woman in the way he had named the animals in Genesis 2 when he rued over them.The result of all of this? God drives the man out of the Garden and away from the Tree of Life.GO DEEPER  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God's 11 Hebrew words to the woman in Genesis 3:16.According to the research of Dr. Joy Fleming, here are the 11 Hebrew words God spoke to the woman in Eden in Genesis 3:16.In spite what you read in the mistranslations into modern languages of the four Hebrew words in Line 1 of Genesis 3:16, God does not talk about childbirth at all in Line 1 of Genesis 3:16. God takes action  for the woman (Words 1 and 2, "Multiplying, I-will-multiply") related to the man and related to the serpent tempter. The Hebrew of Line 1 is formed as a linchpin. Word 3, 'itsabon, links down to the "sorrowful-toil" that will result when God curses the ground because of the man (verse 17). And Word 4, heron, links back up to the woman's "seed" or "offspring" who will crush the attacker's head! In Lines 2-4, God explains to the woman what life is and will be like as a result of the attack and their responses.In Line 2, Word 5, 'etsev, is not the same word as 'itsabon in Line 1. It means "effort." Word 6 is good news "you-will-have-children."In Line 3, teshuqah does not mean an evil desire or turning. Like in Song of Solomon 7:10 it simply means "affection" between two lovers. The occurrence of the word in Genesis 4:7 is not relevant, where it is out of the literary context of Genesis 2:4-3:not even about two humans. God looks into her heart and confirms that even after the attack by the serpent tempter her affection/desire is for her husband. This will stand in stark contrast with the man's desire in Line 4.In Line 4, the woman is warned that the man, the one who rejected God's word and rule and decided to follow Satan and rule over himself, this man desires to usurp God's rightful rule over, mashal, the woman. He wants to rule over her too! Many teach somehow that God told the man to rule over her, and by extension all men to rule over all women. This is not correct! This is fanciful myth-making and sounds like the pagan stories.In Genesis 2-3, and especially in 3:16, God did not curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way!Bruce C. E. FlemingGO DEEPER   The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God links his words to the woman of bad news and good news in Line 1 of the Hebrew text of Genesis 3:16 to the man (verse 17) and to the serpent tempter (verse 15). These linked words are not about the act childbirth BUT that is what almost all modern translations are presenting their readers. See what they miss and how they get things so very wrong in this episode.Bruce C.E. Fleming, author of The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3, and Joanne Hagemeyer walk us through the Study Guide for chapter 6 of The Book of Eden.GO DEEPER!  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God speaks to each of the two rebels, the serpent tempter and the man, using a six-point parallel pattern.The elements of this pattern are completely absent in God's words to the woman. She is treated differently. Why?GO DEEPER.  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

There were three at the Tree in The Garden of Eden: the serpent-tempter, the woman and the man. Satan attacked both of the humans using plural pronouns for "you-both."There were two very different responses by the humans. Sadly, a very incorrect idea is held in popular opinion. People look on the woman as the bigger sinner. Both ate. Both died. But only one rebelled against God and was disobedient to God's word. That was the man, not the woman.There are more eye-opening distinctions to consider in this episode on Genesis 3:1-13.GO DEEPER!  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

There are four steps in the Marriage Model.Each partner first knows God personally.There is a social event and everybody knows "Now we're starting a new family unit."There is deep commitment between the partners much like Ruth's commitment to Naomi.There is physical and emotional union.These steps are presented in The Book of Eden by Bruce C. E. Fleming and are discussed in this Episode by him and Joanne Hagemeyer using the Study Guide from the book.Go Deeper  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

'ezer kenegdo means equal partners. Neither partner is more equal than the other in Genesis 2 according to God's plan in Creation.  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Bruce C. E. Fleming reflects on the brevity of life then introduces Joanne Hagemeyer to the podcast studios! Together they take us into The Book of Eden Chapter One. Get your own copy and follow along as we look at other verses, other points of view and meet some angry women!What is the true truth of Genesis 3:16? How does that impact our understanding of the seven key passages on women and men in the Bible? Genesis 2. Genesis 3. Ephesians 5-6. 1 Timothy 2-3. 1 Corinthians 11:2-16. 1 Corinthians 14:34-40. 1 Peter 3:1-7.  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Well that was quite a session with Christy and Kaylin on the five New Testament passages of 1 Peter 3:1-7, Ephesians 5:15-6:9, 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16, 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-40. Notice the last words as Christy closes it all out, and she talks about love and respect!We can now offer you some great study tools we didn’t yet have when this interview was conducted. Books One and Two of the Eden Book Series are available now as paperbacks, e-books and on Audible. The first and most important one is titled, The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by me Bruce C. E. Fleming. It is subtitled, “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.”The second one is titled, Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6. It is subtitled “The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ. And you can listen to Seasons 1-4 on The Eden Podcast where we work our way through the seven key passages on women and men. You can find that at TheEdenPodcast.com.Do you want to belong and help the ministry of The Eden Podcast? Your part will be a very important help to us. Please check out the ways you can help at this link: https://www.patreon.com/Tru316Project  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner